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So we all bought a Nexus phone expecting...

That we would get OS updates rolled out pretty much as soon as they are released. So why are we waiting for an "official" release for 4.0.3 to make it's way to the Verizon LTE device?

Verizon is probably testing it to make sure it's reliable and fixes the signal hand off.

There are reportedly problems with the 4.3 update that's been going out else where. They have temporarily suspended it. Also, there is an additional update for the LTE version (assuming that's the one you have), so it may be delayed.
Patience. Not all the galaxy S's are updated simultaneously, there still needs to be approval from the carrier, even though it's a google phone.

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Maybe for you since apparently you know everything but for those of us who have never had a Nexus device like myself, I've already learned a few things from some helpful replies.

Bought the phone expecting excellent dev support and that's exactly what I'm getting couldn't be any happier with this purchase

Wow, really have no patience eh?

PaulG1488 said:
Bought the phone expecting excellent dev support and that's exactly what I'm getting couldn't be any happier with this purchase
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Could not have put it any better....

I don't think 4.0.3 has even rolled out for the GSM Galaxy Nexus, let alone the LTE one. It's rolling out to the Nexus S right now, so I'm sure the Galaxy Nexus will get it by the end of the month, or early January (it is the holidays you know).

i must admit i found it a little odd that even the GSM GN is only on 4.0.2 and the same day basically the nexus S was updated to 4.0.3, seems maybe something was wrong with the 4.0.3 update making it take a little longer for the GN

i expected:
-no fragmentation
-insta-updates
-google products to work
i dislike that there are multiple builds out; that google only promotes the verizon copy; that it is manufacturer and phone provider-branded; that google's own WALLET app is not officially supported (atleast on GSM)
its beginning to seem less and less "google-like"

ccpotato said:
i expected:
-no fragmentation
-insta-updates
-google products to work
i dislike that there are multiple builds out; that google only promotes the verizon copy; that it is manufacturer and phone provider-branded; that google's own WALLET app is not officially supported (atleast on GSM)
its beginning to seem less and less "google-like"
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Updates are region specific as basebands vary by region based on what frequency bands are used. Only 1 nexus device supports Google Wallet. The NS4G. The original NS doesn't even support wallet officially. Your complains are kind of invalid.

4.0.3 has battery drain issues and supposedly Google pulled that ota. Also the ns4g hasn't even got the ics ota yet...
I guess you can call it fragmentation but devs always compile the latest roms anyways. Iono it'd not a big deal for me lol
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105437 said:
Maybe for you since apparently you know everything but for those of us who have never had a Nexus device like myself, I've already learned a few things from some helpful replies.
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I've never owned a nexus device before. Please, read my signature.
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I'm GSM and 4.0.1. No biggie.
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Apologies... I'm not being impatient about getting updates etc. It seems my expectations for a Nexus device were set unrealistically by other information I read prior to purchasing the Nexus. After reading what people have said in this thread I have a better understanding of what to expect.
Anyway, thanks.

105437 said:
Apologies... I'm not being impatient about getting updates etc. It seems my expectations for a Nexus device were set unrealistically by other information I read prior to purchasing the Nexus. After reading what people have said in this thread I have a better understanding of what to expect.
Anyway, thanks.
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please bear in mind, regardless, you will always be the first to get the latest update from google.
question is, people seems to be able to wait for days, not weeks, where as we all know, it does takes weeks for google to release a update.
but in comparison to other manufacturer, we are talking about months in oppose to weeks.
your choice.

As said already. You are taing about days or weeks. Where as all other phones you are talking a few months.

Google No Longer Supports the LTE - CDMA Verizon Galaxy Nexus? - Updated, New Info.

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/0...ons-lte-galaxy-nexus-to-be-a-developer-phone/
Update: It looks like all CDMA devices are no longer supported, this includes the Nexus S 4G on sprint.
Update 2: There's no evidence that this will negatively impact end users and OTA's. Things are still unfolding...
Update 3: Google WILL continue to support the Verizon Galaxy Nexus via OTA's. You can put the pitch forks away if you're not a dev and just want OTA's.

lrs421 said:
This cannot be true. I did not buy this phone to get updates and support from Verizon. I'm hoping it's a Friday glitch or early April Fools joke. I am soooo annoyed.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/0...ons-lte-galaxy-nexus-to-be-a-developer-phone/
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Lol @ the early April fools joke its February 3rd smh. But that is interesting, will it be the same for sprint version? Since it says no cdma will be aipported
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This would not surprise me. Remember this is still Verizon (Major Carrier). They still want control of the devices on their networks. Kudos to them for giving users the choice of the Galaxy Nexus even though its not considered their flagship. Google not providing the device support in the future will be very bad but this shows that updates will have to come from Verizon.

I am soooo pissed I can barely type. I hope this is a mistake.
edit: no longer that pissed
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Mods, there are 2 threads about this a minute apart, can we have them merged? Thanks.
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Someone might as well get the petition going now. The war has already broken out in the Droid Life comments. For User's Unlocked/Rooted/ROM'ed this isn't as big a blow but the reason most of us purchased the device was because it was a developer phone. Verizon's refusal to allow Google Wallet and support the openess of a developer phone could easily have caused this. My speculation is that Verizon doesn't want to roll out updates as fast as Google wants too and there is some kind of conflict there. Considering there is a leaked 4.0.4 and we haven't seen 4.0.3 released officially is good evidence of this. Just my opinion.

Itachisasuke said:
Someone might as well get the petition going now. The war has already broken out in the Droid Life comments. For User's Unlocked/Rooted/ROM'ed this isn't as big a blow but the reason most of us purchased the device was because it was a developer phone. Verizon's refusal to allow Google Wallet and support the openess of a developer phone could easily have caused this. My speculation is that Verizon doesn't want to roll out updates as fast as Google wants too and there is some kind of conflict there. Considering there is a leaked 4.0.4 and we haven't seen 4.0.3 released officially is good evidence of this. Just my opinion.
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LOL like Verizon or Google will listen to some pissed off people who signed a petition. Google has its principles and has obviously decided that the LTE version isn't suitable as a reference device given Verizon's mucking it up.

martonikaj said:
LOL like Verizon or Google will listen to some pissed off people who signed a petition. Google has its principles and has obviously decided that the LTE version isn't suitable as a reference device given Verizon's mucking it up.
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I'm pretty cynical when it comes to this sort of stuff as well but someone should feel some push back as a result of this. I purchased this phone for Google support, I wanted to get a way from Verizon.

Seriously, merge these threads into one. That page has nothing to do with updates.
The page stating CDMA devices aren't supported is for building AOSP builds for target devices. It has nothing to do with OTA updates.
You'll notice another Nexus CDMA device missing, the Nexus S 4G. Guess where it gets its updates from and always has (it's not Sprint)?

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/02/w...ce-cream-sandwich-updates-direct-from-google/
Not the only in America this is happening with Australian galaxy nexus phones. Looks like the nexus Google phone days are over. Even more reason to get my gs3 when it comes out.
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lrs421 said:
I'm pretty cynical when it comes to this sort of stuff as well but someone should feel some push back as a result of this. I purchased this phone for Google support, I wanted to get a way from Verizon.
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I know what you're saying, but at the end of the day you bought a locked CDMA phone on Verizon. You will never get away from Verizon unless you switch carriers and buy a different phone : / The nexus is a little farther away from Verizon compared to a "Droid" but you're crazy if you thought you were going to be as free as a bird when you bought a Nexus on big red.

NIK516 said:
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/02/w...ce-cream-sandwich-updates-direct-from-google/
Not the only in America this is happening with Australian galaxy nexus phones. Looks like the nexus Google phone days are over. Even more reason to get my gs3 when it comes out.
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Wow. So it's not just Verizon?
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NIK516 said:
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/02/w...ce-cream-sandwich-updates-direct-from-google/
Not the only in America this is happening with Australian galaxy nexus phones. Looks like the nexus Google phone days are over. Even more reason to get my gs3 when it comes out.
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This happened with the Nexus One on Vodafone as well. It wasn't the "end" then and it won't be the "end" now.

It's a little early to tell, but if this turns out to be true I'm going to the Verizon store and going to raise hell. I will cancel my contract over this.

martonikaj said:
I know what you're saying, but at the end of the day you bought a locked CDMA phone on Verizon. You will never get away from Verizon...
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I know, I know. I'm too annoyed for common sense right now
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Truculent said:
It's a little early to tell, but if this turns out to be true I'm going to the Verizon store and going to raise hell. I will cancel my contract over this.
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Lol good luck with that. Pay and ETF and they'll be happy to let you leave. And they'll watch another 5 people walk in the store right after you and buy a Rezound/RAZR/Droid 4/FoTM device.
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I know, I know. I'm too annoyed for common sense right now
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Happens to the best of us. Just bringing perspective here. I always thought it was funny that all of these Verizon people thought they were "sticking it to the carrier" by buying a Verizon Galaxy Nexus...

NIK516 said:
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/02/w...ce-cream-sandwich-updates-direct-from-google/
Not the only in America this is happening with Australian galaxy nexus phones. Looks like the nexus Google phone days are over. Even more reason to get my gs3 when it comes out.
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Filled with quite a bit of miss information tbh.
They state the latest version of pics is 4.0.3. Its not that's only source code. And complain that peoples new phones are still on 4.0.1. That's correct but so are most retail versions.
I'd be pissed if I had a version version. But I'm not surprised as most carriers seen to want control. But the winging from .au is a bit petty. Its only mi cute builds, not like they are major builds behind.
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Verizon's refusal to allow Google Wallet and support the openess of a developer phone could easily have caused this. My speculation is that Verizon doesn't want to roll out updates as fast as Google wants too and there is some kind of conflict there.
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These are my thoughts exactly. Google has repeatedly shown that they are very innovative and forward thinking. Updates are moving too fast and Big Red does not want to move that fast if at all.

martonikaj said:
Lol good luck with that. Pay and ETF and they'll be happy to let you leave.
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I've been considering paying the ETF and leaving for awhile now. The only thing holding me to stay has been my unlimited data I was grandfathered into, but I'm sure that won't last much longer with the way things have been going (throttling etc.). I'll probably buy a GSM nexus and go month to month on another carrier. It's kind of the final straw.

Why is this such a big issue ? The ability to apply the stock yoku OS is available. Once that's done the phone will receive Google updates,especially for unlocked GNex

Jelly Bean update! But not for us! :(

So the International unlocked version got their Jelly Bean update today. Man! Why doesn't Sammy hire some of these devs on here to speed up the freaking process!!
Edit: Sorry Sammy its not your fault its the freaking carriers!! Bastards!!! thanks Andy!
Edit again: OK Sammy im putting you back in the crap house!!! bastards!!! thanks intub8!
White Hot! GS3.

blame the carriers.

andy2na said:
blame the carriers.
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Its not Sammy...definitely the money grubbing carriers in the US...its pathetic

Oh I see thanks for sharing! Will change OP freaking carriers!!!! Lol.....
White Hot! GS3.

andy2na said:
blame the carriers.
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Samsung is not innocent. Blame them also. Samsung can easily say no to the major carriers and push the update to us through kies. We will not get the update until 30-60 days after the next flagship device from att. All of the iphone update come directly from apple. The carriers have no say.
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Samsung is not innocent. Blame them also. Samsung can easily say no to the major carriers and push the update to us through kies. We will not get the update until 30-60 days after the next flagship device from att. All of the iphone update come directly from apple. The carriers have no say.
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Ditto. Another post that was moved to the Q&A section mentioned that there are already three AT&T leaks in existence. AT&T is probably too busy ensuring that their bloatware is compatible with the ROMs, I mean, testing them.
I honestly don't understand how Samsung, the biggest mobile phone producer in the world, allows carriers to call the shots. As you've mentioned, Apple doesn't allow the carriers to have any input in OS updates. Samsung has just as much clout - what's stopping them from doing the same?

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Ditto. Another post that was moved to the Q&A section mentioned that there are already three AT&T leaks in existence. AT&T is probably too busy ensuring that their bloatware is compatible with the ROMs, I mean, testing them.
I honestly don't understand how Samsung, the biggest mobile phone producer in the world, allows carriers to call the shots. As you've mentioned, Apple doesn't allow the carriers to have any input in OS updates. Samsung has just as much clout - what's stopping them from doing the same?
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All Samsung cares about is profit margins. Where as Apple is also really strict with what goes into their phones. Flame away, but that's the truth.

kgbkny said:
Ditto. Another post that was moved to the Q&A section mentioned that there are already three AT&T leaks in existence. AT&T is probably too busy ensuring that their bloatware is compatible with the ROMs, I mean, testing them.
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Three leaks? I haven't seen them for download anywhere.
This is getting ridiculous.

just use a custom rom!

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All Samsung cares about is profit margins. Where as Apple is also really strict with what goes into their phones. Flame away, but that's the truth.
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And I suppose Apple doesn't care about profit margins?
In all honesty, I can't say I disagree. Apple pretty much gave the carriers the finger by strictly controlling what's included in the updates and their release timeline. My biggest frustration with Android is the complete lack of uniformity when it comes to keeping it up to date. With that being said, I would sooner switch to Windows than iOS.
With regards to custom ROMs....not really my thing anymore. There is always something that doesn't function properly, which is why I'd rather have the official release. I used to be a flashaholic when I had the Vibrant and the MT4G, even the Sensation (to some extent). Nowadays, I tend to favor the official releases, even if it's a leak.

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All Samsung cares about is profit margins. Where as Apple is also really strict with what goes into their phones. Flame away, but that's the truth.
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Wut? Samsung has slimmer margins than Apple does. By a LONG shot.
Also, Apple doesn't let carriers control updates, but the carriers do significantly control what is going in to each update (primarily in terms of what features are enabled for use when). They still don't have a gold paved road.
That being said, I do wish Samsung would force the carriers to a better update schedule. I wouldn't care if it was consistently a month after the international version. That would be better than what we have now.

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I spoke to an ATT rep on chat and they said that they were the ones holding up the release. Doesn't seem like they care what with the disabling of google wallet as well.

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With regards to custom ROMs....not really my thing anymore. There is always something that doesn't function properly, which is why I'd rather have the official release. I used to be a flashaholic when I had the Vibrant and the MT4G, even the Sensation (to some extent). Nowadays, I tend to favor the official releases, even if it's a leak.
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I kinda agree as I did the same with my S1 i9000 : flashed ROMs and kernels onto it on a weekly basis for nearly 1½ year.
Now that I have my S3, I just don't feel like that anymore as I :
- Appreciate the quality and stability of Samsung's releases
- Enjoy using the best camera app there is
- Know that the phone will eventually be updated to an even better release
However, the day I'll be told by Samsung that my S3 will no longer be elligible to upgrades, just watch me go back to my custom ROMs flashing habits! héhéhé
As for the bloatware ... root and any decent file explorer can help you get rid of it!

I thought most people knew by now that only Official Google devices get (somewhat) prompt updates. I didn't buy my SIII based on what it was going to get, I bought it based on what it already had. IMO as long as they update the phone in a relatively timely manner (within 6 months I'd say) then I am content - even then I wouldn't be too upset. I would just flash something myself.

I do the same. Take official firmware and basically make my own custom rom.
That way I have control about what is and isnt done.
I root it..
remove bloatware myself with root explorer (after copying everything I am about to remove to my external sd for safe keeping)
keep copies of the build.prop, framework-res systemui etc.
I modify the systemui for my own icons etc.
Install other modes etc.
As for leaks the only leak I know off on AT&T based is LH1 which I am running.
I am not running the latest lh9 as lh1 has everything that lh9 has but doesnt have nfc screwed up so wallet still works with it.
I am running the lh9 modem.

By the time the S3 will become ineligible for updates, I will have moved on to my next phone. Back in 2011, Google set up an Android update alliance, where many manufacturers and U.S.-based carriers promised that new Android phones would receive timely OS updates for 18 months after launch. The only timely thing about this promise was the death of this alliance. After Jellybean, I give the S3 one more update before Samsung declares it non-upgradeable. It's unfortunate, but that's just the nature of the beast.
I'm well aware that only official Google devices (Nexus) get timely updates. This is the only reason why I held on to my Galaxy Nexus after buying the S3. I was well aware that it'll be a loooooooooong time before the S3 sees an update, so I kept the Nexus to satisfy my cravings for latest Android versions.

http://phandroid.com/2012/10/24/sprints-samsung-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-rollout-starts-october-25th/
Funny how I left Sprint and my S3 to come to AT&T and get an S3. Surely we won't be too much further behind if Sprint is releasing it? Maybe? Bueller?

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http://phandroid.com/2012/10/24/sprints-samsung-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-rollout-starts-october-25th/
Funny how I left Sprint and my S3 to come to AT&T and get an S3. Surely we won't be too much further behind if Sprint is releasing it? Maybe? Bueller?
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Good find! When the initial Samsung statement regarding the U.S. S3 variants being updated to Jellybean "in the coming months" was issued, it specifically mentioned "all carriers except for Sprint". Although the arrival of the Sprint update may signal that ours are just around the corner, I'm not holding my breath.

I just want to point out that Apple doesn't play by the same ruleset as Android OEM's do when it comes to releasing updates. Part of the original contract with AT&T was to prevent AT&T from having any say in Apple's updates and it kind of just kept going with the other carriers since they wanted the phone to sell so dearly.
Android OEM's have no such stipulation, Nexus devices not counting of course.

Saw on another site that AT&T wont see an update till January.
Of course that is just word of mouth, so take it for what you will.

Samsung announces Jelly Bean being released on Monday for Canadian carriers.

https://www.facebook.com/samsungmobilecanada?ref=stream

Here is the announcement so you don't have to click facebook if you don't want to.
Get your sweet tooth ready! Android 4.1 (Jelly Bean) will start rolling out to GALAXY S III owners over-the-air next Monday. Stay tuned for more Jelly Bean device announcements soon!
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Perfect ! Been waiting for this ! Seen it in my newsfeed as well!

I'm excited. The ported releases showed a lot of promise but were just too buggy for me. They did however fix a major bluetooth bug that has plagued both Samsung devices I've used with ICS (SII LTE, SIII) my car.
Looks like we may get it before AT&T users too.

Bastards!!
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So does Samsung control the updates like they did with some of the galaxy nexus models? Or is this only for certain carriers?
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bdithug said:
So does Samsung control the updates like they did with some of the galaxy nexus models? Or is this only for certain carriers?
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Samsung released the OS to the carriers months ago presumably. The carriers tested it and bloated them up. Samsung stated that it will begin rolling out on Monday so I would assume this means at least the Big 3 will begin rolling it out first.

Tony_YYZ said:
Samsung released the OS to the carriers months ago presumably. The carriers tested it and bloated them up. Samsung stated that it will begin rolling out on Monday so I would assume this means at least the Big 3 will begin rolling it out first.
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I asked bell a week ago on twitter and they told me 6-8 weeks..... and when i asked samsung about bell telling me that they didnt answer.... so iono i really dont think we are gonna see it monday...

I agree. Maybe one carrier will push the ota but all three on same day sounds too good to be true. I bought an unlocked telus model yesterday, knowing my luck telus won't release update until 2013 lol. Heres hoping it's all 3 major carriers!
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S7icky said:
I asked bell a week ago on twitter and they told me 6-8 weeks..... and when i asked samsung about bell telling me that they didnt answer.... so iono i really dont think we are gonna see it monday...
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You can't take anything the carrier says as truth. Their reps do not know the answer and anything they give is purely speculation or a rumour they are pushing forward. Carrier reps always find out a day before or on the day of release for the most part about new services/features.
This news came directly from Samsung. Does this mean everyone will get the update on Monday? Probably not but we should start seeing some staggering rollouts to customers and to the rest with each passing day.
I'll start unfreezing my Rogers and Samsung bloat in TBP on Sunday in hopes I get the update on Monday.

I'll wait for a CWM/TWRP flashable version... It's bound to happen shortly once it is released... Otherwise I'll have to unroot or something...

This is fantastic news, and great timing for all of us who snagged one over the weekend through the Black Friday deal for $0 from Telus. I already love this phone as it is!

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Perfect ! Been waiting for this ! Seen it in my newsfeed as well!
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Do you mean your work newsfeed at bell?

Hopefully we still be getting very soon. I was so used to 4.1.1 on my galaxy nexus

When I had Galaxy Note, Big 3 released the Ice Cream Sandwich update on the same day.
It is not something unbelievable.
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Doubt it will be Monday. Doesn't the carriers have to add bloat and test it on the network? I would say close to the 15th.
Once it is released people will start complaining about when 4.2.1 will be released. Want the fastest android updates? Get a nexus. Want the best hardware? Don't get a nexus and go cm custom rom. I wouldn't be surprised if cm10.1 was released before 4.1.
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If Samsung is announcing the availability, it means the carriers have already tested it and are ready to release it. It may be all of them, it may only be one or two to start, but some Canadian Galaxy S III owners should get the upgrade notice on Monday.

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Doubt it will be Monday. Doesn't the carriers have to add bloat and test it on the network? I would say close to the 15th.
Once it is released people will start complaining about when 4.2.1 will be released. Want the fastest android updates? Get a nexus. Want the best hardware? Don't get a nexus and go cm custom rom. I wouldn't be surprised if cm10.1 was released before 4.1.
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they said 'it will be available as an ota update on monday' meaning that it's already been tested my carriers. and it doesn't take a week for carriers to test it, more like months and months with the snail pace they usually go by. the update's been out for months internationally, and weeks for tmo and sprint.can't wait for google now! missed it coming from my nexus s

HD Voice
I hope that Bell will add support for HD Voice in this release! They support the Note II after all.

lap777 said:
I hope that Bell will add support for HD Voice in this release! They support the Note II after all.
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There is a hardware dependency for this. IIRC, the GS3 does not have a wideband receiver.

RUMOR MILL: Samsung to support Android 4.2.2 and Android 5.0 To GS3

Sweet!
Just a rumor though. Hopefully it's true! And usually Sammobile is very accurate.
**Credit to rwilco12 for finding this**

Your Source (SamMobile) really doesn't pay much attention to US Spec phones. If you notice they are talking about international models. I wouldn't extrapolate that info to mean anything about our phones.

poit said:
Your Source (SamMobile) really doesn't pay much attention to US Spec phones. If you notice they are talking about international models. I wouldn't extrapolate that info to mean anything about our phones.
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If the GS2 got Jellybean why the heck wouldn't we get 4.2.2/5.0............

Joe0113 said:
If the GS2 got Jellybean why the heck wouldn't we get 4.2.2/5.0............
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With our phones, it's not just up to Samsung. Qualcomm (because of CDMA tweaks) and Sprint are also involved in producing the ROMs.

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If the GS2 got Jellybean why the heck wouldn't we get 4.2.2/5.0............
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Sprints s2 aka the epic touch 4g hasn't got jellybean 4.2 yet... i have both phones
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Sprint is not going to waste their time updating a phone from two generations ago (GS2) to Jellybean when the GS4 is coming with Jellybean! That would be a big marketing mistake on Sprint's part. Not to mention the whole CDMA thing which complicates matters even more. We all Sprint is the least profitable of the big 4 US carriers so they aren't going to shoot themselves in the foot like that. Not to mention, those subscribers who still have the GS2 will not be as excited to upgrade to the GS4 if the android version is the same. Sprint wants them to upgrade! GS2 and GS3 will not get these updates from Sprint I am willing to put money on it lol.

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Sprint is not going to waste their time updating a phone from two generations ago (GS2) to Jellybean when the GS4 is coming with Jellybean! That would be a big marketing mistake on Sprint's part. Not to mention the whole CDMA thing which complicates matters even more. We all Sprint is the least profitable of the big 4 US carriers so they aren't going to shoot themselves in the foot like that. Not to mention, those subscribers who still have the GS2 will not be as excited to upgrade to the GS4 if the android version is the same. Sprint wants them to upgrade! GS2 and GS3 will not get these updates from Sprint I am willing to put money on it lol.
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Um ok, GS3 already has jellybean and GS2 has had multiple jellybean leaked roms so we know they are working on it. Keep in mind the cdma GS2 was just released for Boost and Virgin Mobile within the past couple months and has not been put on end of life by sprint yet, so it is still receiving support funding for software updates.
Also if you were familiar with the update life cycle of top tier samsung phones on sprint e.g. The GS1 & GS2 you would see 2 full years of android version upgrades is the norm not the exception. Look for the GS2 to get 4.1.2 and be EOL end of this year, and the GS3 to get its final update next year and EOL end of next year.
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Premium Suite still hasn't made it to USA S3s. It's not anywhere near a sure thing GS3 will get Android K. My guess is 4.2 with premium suite and some GS4 features after GS4 has been available in the market for a good while, then Sammy will be pretty much done with GS3.

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Premium Suite still hasn't made it to USA S3s. It's not anywhere near a sure thing GS3 will get Android K. My guess is 4.2 with premium suite and some GS4 features after GS4 has been available in the market for a good while, then Sammy will be pretty much done with GS3.
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Samsung like to update their U.S phones with the latest features after the launch It's newest flagship. So, after the GS4 is available in the US that's when we'll see an update.
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Honestly, as far as Carriers go, I believe Sprint is the best when it comes to OS updates. AT&T probably comes in second. And I'm basing this off carrier-specific phones, not international devices on GSM carriers.

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Sprint is not going to waste their time updating a phone from two generations ago (GS2) to Jellybean when the GS4 is coming with Jellybean! That would be a big marketing mistake on Sprint's part. Not to mention the whole CDMA thing which complicates matters even more. We all Sprint is the least profitable of the big 4 US carriers so they aren't going to shoot themselves in the foot like that. Not to mention, those subscribers who still have the GS2 will not be as excited to upgrade to the GS4 if the android version is the same. Sprint wants them to upgrade! GS2 and GS3 will not get these updates from Sprint I am willing to put money on it lol.
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Sprint was bought by Softbank by the way. They have mass amounts of money to spend. And they are not 4th in profits. Basically your whole statement is false. http://allthingsd.com/20130318/hesse-masayoshi-son-met-with-fcc-to-pitch-softbank-sprint-deal/
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I don't understand why anyone is surprised by this. Every Galaxy S phone has been updated to two major versions of android.
Galaxy S (eclair) - froyo and gingerbread
GSII (gingerbread) - ICS and jelly bean
It only makes sense that that the gs3 would get the same treatment and be updated to Key Lime Pie when it's only had one major update (jelly bean)
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I really like the phone as is, but 4.2 is pretty sweet!!!!
I believe we will get it, but they are focused on getting the GS4 selling right now so they will likely wait another 6 months or so.
Right now, you gotta pay to play with the official 4.2 phones.....or go the CM10 route which has bugs.

kayakaddict said:
I really like the phone as is, but 4.2 is pretty sweet!!!!
I believe we will get it, but they are focused on getting the GS4 selling right now so they will likely wait another 6 months or so.
Right now, you gotta pay to play with the official 4.2 phones.....or go the CM10 route which has bugs.
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Liquid Smooth all the way. No bugs what so ever. Running 4.2.2

Visionikz03 said:
Sprint is not going to waste their time updating a phone from two generations ago (GS2) to Jellybean when the GS4 is coming with Jellybean! That would be a big marketing mistake on Sprint's part. Not to mention the whole CDMA thing which complicates matters even more. We all Sprint is the least profitable of the big 4 US carriers so they aren't going to shoot themselves in the foot like that. Not to mention, those subscribers who still have the GS2 will not be as excited to upgrade to the GS4 if the android version is the same. Sprint wants them to upgrade! GS2 and GS3 will not get these updates from Sprint I am willing to put money on it lol.
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Ill bet you $50 that our s2 will get the official update.... But im also thinking that will be the last update that s2 will get
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otterboxfan4l said:
Ill bet you $50 that our s2 will get the official update.... But im also thinking that will be the last update that s2 will get
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I don't see the S2 getting Jelly Bean 4.2 update. That phone is to old for that. I see the S3 getting the 4.2 update though, but probably not the 5.0 though. By then most will have upgraded to the S4 or whatever Samsung has out.
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wickedskills said:
I don't see the S2 getting Jelly Bean 4.2 update. That phone is to old for that. I see the S3 getting the 4.2 update though, but probably not the 5.0 though. By then most will have upgraded to the S4 or whatever Samsung has out.
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I respectfully disagree. After looking at the specs for the s4, I think most people will probably hold out for the S 5. It looks like some minimal hardware upgrades and mostly software upgrades, which I believe the s3 will handle very easily. just my humble opinion though
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We'll have to wait an see. Would rather get one that is tested and none to work then see them push to release one that is buggy.

Hopefully 4.2 comes to the us galaxy s3 none of them got premium suite update feature just the 4.1.2 that's all

It could also be that Samsung, not the carriers, puts the brakes on the S3 in favor of selling (forcing) the S4. Like when Moto stopped supporting the Photon (then a flagship device) within 6 months in order to sell more new "flagship devices" rather than update existing usable consumer products. Consumers who bought into the "latest,greatest" Moto had to offer at the time thinking they would be good for at least a couple years of contract.
It's a double edge sword where someone is going to get cut, no matter if it's from the carrier who doesn't want to spend the money to add their junk, or the manufacture who doesn't want to update "old" products.
With the devices of today, and the power they have, I see the trend moving more and more to the rooting/dev. arena to make existing devices more usable for longer periods of time.
Tech is so far advanced that now, within the terms of a typical 2 year contract, not much can be added to make a consumer justify the cost unless they just HAVE to be "better" than anyone else.
Having said that, the easiest way to continue new sales is to stop developing/supporting "older" devices.