A completely nervous owner wants to root his HTC Desire... - Desire General

Hi folks,
My 2.5 yr old Desire is either destined for the drawer or I hope to give it a lease of life by finally rooting it and getting a rom on it with jellybean. I assume that this will give me all the benefits PLUS get rid of the ongoing problems with a lack of internal memory that all Desires suffer from. Since I'm on a nice cheap sim-only deal plus I love the phone's size, etc, this seems the way to go.
So...I have very little idea as to what to do. I know I need to root first so another rom can be applied.
What I am after is the simplest, easiest, most direct way of rooting the phone.
I have:
Android version 2.2.2
Kernel version 2.6.32.15-g2633d94
Software no 2.33.161.6
I have had a good look on these forums as well as others and everytime someone asks a similar question there is too much assumed knowledge in the answer. Also, others always end up hijacking the thread with arguments over this way of doing it or that.
I need - please - a really simple explanation of what to do with the easiest method possible. Yes, I even need someone to tell me what gold card is and how I make one (if I need to that is).
Also - I am running a mac not a PC. I have access to Leopard and Snow Leopard OS's so please keep that in mind when referring to connecting the phone to a computer!!
Any more info you need then let me know.
Thanks in advance!

What about reading a guide? It's all here all you need to do is search.
It does include all the information you need, why people think they are special and need a "personal explanation" of everything?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
Ofc someone could help you, but it's just a waste of time since he will be telling u to do the same as in those guides, and they are here for a reason...
And before you ask, yes they include MAC OSX guide too.

dont worrie!
dont worrie to much if i can do it anyone can just read all you can what you dont understand am sure that somone on here will only be to happy to help if you go wrong it'll be all backed up so you can put it back anytime hope this helps you!

Yeah, I am lending my support too - Jellybean will solve all your problems with your device.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk 2

I wouldn't flash a ICS or a JB rom if you are a first time flasher. You'll be giving yourself more problems to deal with than necessary for a beginner. Flash Gingerbread roms until you know your way around...
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OK. Firstly, thanks for the help so far. I had already looked at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084 but it referred to Windows only. However, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189 is better for Macusers and I hadn't seen that link before. So it does seem easier than I first thought as he explains it very well. Still have questions though (and bear with me here)
From what I understand, the stages I need to go thru are:
1 - root the phone
2 - use alpharev to get the phone to S-off
3 - partition the SD card
4 - backup using alpharev's backup menu
5 - download and install a custom rom.
Firstly - how can I use alpharev with a Mac. It doesn't seem possible.
Secondly - at which stage can I get the phone to move apps2sd and how do I go about doing that? Or is that after I install a new rom? Will it move all the apps I want to the sd card?
Thirdly - in case things go wrong, what is the best way to backup the phone as it is before doing anything?
Thanks, and sorry if these have been addressed before but I am finding it hard to get clear answers that don't assume too much knowledge.

simon12 said:
Firstly - how can I use alpharev with a Mac. It doesn't seem possible.
Secondly - at which stage can I get the phone to move apps2sd and how do I go about doing that? Or is that after I install a new rom? Will it move all the apps I want to the sd card?
Thirdly - in case things go wrong, what is the best way to backup the phone as it is before doing anything?
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1. You need either Windows or Linux
2. After flashing ROM, most of em does it automatically (if you partitioned SD correctly, use 4ext recovery to do so)
3. I did never backup stock HTC ROM, i see no point in doing that since you can just restore to stock with RUU.

There's an app to backup sms messages in the play store that works with your gmail account. It let's you export.a backup file to your gmail account and you can also see the messages when logged into gmail. Then you can import from your gmail to restore them, it doesn't require root.
App is in the playstore. Contacts and stuff should be synced to your google account, you may want to export a file from the contacts app to the sd card and then copy or to the computer. You do that from the people or contacts app by pressing menu and settings or preferences usually. Exporting as a .vcf file I believe is what its called, then you can use any email program on computer even webmail to import them. If they aren't all on your gmail you need to have them there so when you wipe your phone and then sign into google it will restore them automatically.
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k3lcior said:
1. You need either Windows or Linux
2. After flashing ROM, most of em does it automatically (if you partitioned SD correctly, use 4ext recovery to do so)
3. I did never backup stock HTC ROM, i see no point in doing that since you can just restore to stock with RUU.
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1 - oh bugger! I'll drag my old XP partition out on the mac I guess!
2 - what is 4ext recovery? I also have heard of 3ext. EDIT: OK - just read the info in the link in your sig. Seems to do pretty well everything. Do I download this app before going thru the whole rooting thing?
3 - I downloaded a RUU file earlier (mac version) from a link on these boards which apparently matches my current phone. It's on my computer but I have no idea what to do with it.
Sorry but I really don't quite understand what others probably find very obvious, or I am at least unwilling to assume something that may leave me with a bricked phone. Better to ask.

CharliesTheMan said:
There's an app to backup sms messages in the play store that works with your gmail account. It let's you export.a backup file to your gmail account and you can also see the messages when logged into gmail. Then you can import from your gmail to restore them, it doesn't require root.
App is in the playstore. Contacts and stuff should be synced to your google account, you may want to export a file from the contacts app to the sd card and then copy or to the computer. You do that from the people or contacts app by pressing menu and settings or preferences usually. Exporting as a .vcf file I believe is what its called, then you can use any email program on computer even webmail to import them. If they aren't all on your gmail you need to have them there so when you wipe your phone and then sign into google it will restore them automatically.
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That all makes sense. My contacts are all saved as google contacts anyway and all my emails are also on the computer.

simon12 said:
2 - what is 4ext recovery? I also have heard of 3ext. What are these and what do I do with them?
3 - I downloaded a RUU file earlier (mac version) from a link on these boards which apparently matches my current phone. It's on my computer but I have no idea what to do with it.
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You wipe all the data using recovery (required to flash new ROM's), obviously you also flash ROM's using it.. You can also partition SD, backup current ROM etc.
http://www.4ext.net/get.php?apk (link to recovery, you need S-OFF first)
RUU restores your phone to factory default state.
Trust me it will be easier if instead asking you'll start doing it, and ask if you're stuck on something.

k3lcior said:
You wipe all the data using recovery (required to flash new ROM's), obviously you also flash ROM's using it.. You can also partition SD, backup current ROM etc.
http://www.4ext.net/get.php?apk (link to recovery, you need S-OFF first)
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So do I use alpharev to backup or 4ext? Or can either of them do this? According to this guide (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084) you use alpharev in step 6.
k3lcior said:
Trust me it will be easier if instead asking you'll start doing it, and ask if you're stuck on something.
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I agree totally - just want to clear the path as best as possible before I take the plunge.

Dude, this is 1 of your posts.. just do it.
1 - root the phone
2 - use alpharev to get the phone to S-off
4 - install 4ext recovery
3 - partition the SD card (using recovery)
4 - backup (using recovery)
5 - download and install a custom rom.
Simple as that, you know everything you need i'm gone for now.

Does an Ubunto live cd run on a mac. ?
If so then maybe u can use Revolutioary.io. I dont know just thinking out loud.

colin_404 said:
Does an Ubunto live cd run on a mac. ?
If so then maybe u can use Revolutioary.io. I dont know just thinking out loud.
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was thinking same thing. if we knew the hboot then this could be solved in 5 mins. s-off and rooted
Sent from my HTC Desire

jmcclue said:
was thinking same thing. if we knew the hboot then this could be solved in 5 mins. s-off and rooted
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bravo PVT1 SHIP S-ON
hboot: 0.93.0001
radio: 5.11.05.27
Hope that helps.
Cheers

simon12 said:
bravo PVT1 SHIP S-ON
hboot: 0.93.0001
radio: 5.11.05.27
Hope that helps.
Cheers
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http://revolutionary.io/
go here also check the all things root guide in my sig. basicaly download for windows/mac and fill in the drop down boxes to get ur beta key. plug in ur phone and run the tool u downloaded, paste in the beta key in command window and hit enter, it will also ask do u want to in lstall Clockworkmod recovery? yes. let it finish and u should be s-off then flash superuser zip file in recovery to gain root. Read that guide in my sig first
Sent from my HTC Desire

Yeah, you have good hboot for revolutionary so go for it.
After you're done with S-OFF, go into recovery and flash this package for root access: http://downloads.androidsu.com/superuser/Superuser-3.0.7-efgh-signed.zip
Then just reboot, install 4ext recovery, go into recovery wipe everything (full wipe/dalvik/system/boot), partition SD with 1GB EXT3 or 4, and flash ROM.

Right guys - thanks! (Sorry k3lcior - I'm limited to 8 thanks per day apparently).
I'm think that's my project this evening. Hopefully I won't be on here asking stupid questions if I get all confused but it does seem pretty straightforward when you put it like that.

simon12 said:
(Sorry k3lcior - I'm limited to 8 thanks per day apparently).
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did it for ya lol
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[Q] Rooting HTC Desire... -completely lost-

Hey guys,
I'll start with a heads up; complete newb here so I hope i have the right forum/section. Furthermore I appologise for my English, it is not my native language so I hope I can make myself clear. So far for the disclaimers.
Here's the situation; I have a Dutch HTC desire and I am absolutely lost in the rooting proces. I'll give you guys my specs first;
Phone
- HTC Desire running Android 2.2 Froyo from the OTA update
- Hboot version 0.92.0001
- NO Goldcard, regular microSD 4 gig that came with the device, haven't altered it
- Radio 5.09.00.20
PC:
- Windows 7 x64
- HTC Sync installed
Now I want root, preferebly with OpenDesire and A2SD so have been googling about the entire weekend now, but haven't found any guides that match my specs fully, havent got a clue where to start really with the rooting process. For instance; most downgrading guides talk about needing to use Hboot 0.92, where mine is 0.92.0001. Also some guides tell me I need a goldcard, others say I don't.
This is where I'm at right now, having read several guides these are the steps I think I have to take;
1. Backup everything using Mybackuppro
2. Downgrade using PB99IMG.ZIP. Is this correct, and will it work with my Hboot? Will I need a Goldcard for this?
3. Root the phone using Unrevoked. Will this work, concedering I have HTC Sync installed, and if no will a normal uninstall through the Windows programs uninstall be sufficient for "Uninstall HTC Sync completely" or are further meassures required? Will it work on my radio version, or is this not of any matter at this point?
I believe that at this point, my phone is worthless, right? There is no rom installed, so at this point I would need to install a rom. So on to step 4;
4. Install OpenDesire rom. I have read things about it having to be a zip file, the files I found though were .exe's Will the .exe do, or have I found the wrong files? Also I read that in order for the camera to work on OD, i need radio version 5.x, which I do. Will the rooting/downgrading proces make any changes to the radio version also?
5. Is this it? Have I missed anything, or are these roughly the steps I have to take to downgrade from 2.2, root, and install OD (which I believe also is a 2.2 version, with the JIT correct?)
Any tips, advises and remarks would be highly appriciated, coming from an ancient Nokia E65 I'm sort of unsure how to handle Android, how import small nuances like the exact version of Hboot are.
Also, if I have left out any important information please do not hesitate to ask, i'll reply ASAP.
Not one reply? Anyone?
Greppel said:
Hey guys,
I'll start with a heads up; complete newb here so I hope i have the right forum/section. Furthermore I appologise for my English, it is not my native language so I hope I can make myself clear. So far for the disclaimers.
Here's the situation; I have a Dutch HTC desire and I am absolutely lost in the rooting proces. I'll give you guys my specs first;
Phone
- HTC Desire running Android 2.2 Froyo from the OTA update
- Hboot version 0.92.0001
- NO Goldcard, regular microSD 4 gig that came with the device, haven't altered it
- Radio 5.09.00.20
PC:
- Windows 7 x64
- HTC Sync installed
Now I want root, preferebly with OpenDesire and A2SD so have been googling about the entire weekend now, but haven't found any guides that match my specs fully, havent got a clue where to start really with the rooting process. For instance; most downgrading guides talk about needing to use Hboot 0.92, where mine is 0.92.0001. Also some guides tell me I need a goldcard, others say I don't.
This is where I'm at right now, having read several guides these are the steps I think I have to take;
1. Backup everything using Mybackuppro
2. Downgrade using PB99IMG.ZIP. Is this correct, and will it work with my Hboot? Will I need a Goldcard for this?
3. Root the phone using Unrevoked. Will this work, concedering I have HTC Sync installed, and if no will a normal uninstall through the Windows programs uninstall be sufficient for "Uninstall HTC Sync completely" or are further meassures required? Will it work on my radio version, or is this not of any matter at this point?
I believe that at this point, my phone is worthless, right? There is no rom installed, so at this point I would need to install a rom. So on to step 4;
4. Install OpenDesire rom. I have read things about it having to be a zip file, the files I found though were .exe's Will the .exe do, or have I found the wrong files? Also I read that in order for the camera to work on OD, i need radio version 5.x, which I do. Will the rooting/downgrading proces make any changes to the radio version also?
5. Is this it? Have I missed anything, or are these roughly the steps I have to take to downgrade from 2.2, root, and install OD (which I believe also is a 2.2 version, with the JIT correct?)
Any tips, advises and remarks would be highly appriciated, coming from an ancient Nokia E65 I'm sort of unsure how to handle Android, how import small nuances like the exact version of Hboot are.
Also, if I have left out any important information please do not hesitate to ask, i'll reply ASAP.
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Dude did u manage to root your desire let me know ? i can pm you the links
You probably have the new phones which is with the SLCD screens. There is currently only 1 method to root those. But you need to operate with a black screen. Which means you won't be sure if you really pressed the right option or not. Try search for the SLCD root for HTC Desire.
Treschen said:
Dude did u manage to root your desire let me know ? i can pm you the links
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Not yet mate, when I do I'll let you know
Downgrading will require a goldcard if your phone is network branded. It is necessary to root your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768256
WingYn said:
You probably have the new phones which is with the SLCD screens. There is currently only 1 method to root those. But you need to operate with a black screen. Which means you won't be sure if you really pressed the right option or not. Try search for the SLCD root for HTC Desire.
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Still have the AMOLED version, not the SLCD one... Was one the first with a Desire in Holland, just sort of late with rooting it... and now there's hundreds of outdated tuturials, making it hard to figure out which ones still work
teppic74 said:
Downgrading will require a goldcard if your phone is network branded. It is necessary to root your phone.
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Ok, thx. I bought the phone without any form of network branding, your post implies that I will not be needing a goldcard then, correct? Or do I need it anyway for A2SD?
Right, what ROM is on it at the moment? IF it's 2.09.405.8 then do the following...
Download this file:
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bra...8U_4.06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed_txt.zip
and rename it PB99IMG.zip (not PB99IMG.zip.zip!!) and copy to the root of your SD card. Turn phone off and boot into HBOOT by holding Vol-down whilst turning it on. Follow the instructions and allow it to update (assuming it works). Once done, reboot and you'll be back on 1.21.405.x and you can now root your phone using unrEVOked
OR
Read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768256
If you run this utility it will tell you if you need a goldcard. If you do need one, you can quit it, make one, and run it again.
EddyOS said:
Right, what ROM is on it at the moment? IF it's 2.09.405.8 then do the following...
Download this file:
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bra...8U_4.06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed_txt.zip
and rename it PB99IMG.zip (not PB99IMG.zip.zip!!) and copy to the root of your SD card. Turn phone off and boot into HBOOT by holding Vol-down whilst turning it on. Follow the instructions and allow it to update (assuming it works). Once done, reboot and you'll be back on 1.21.405.x and you can now root your phone using unrEVOked
OR
Read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768256
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Thats great! It is 2.09.405.8 acctually, so I am going to give this a try first thing in the morning, i'll start reading the link you gave now... Thx so much, I will keep you updated!
The problem with the first method is that it corrupts your misc partition, which will need fixing. The second one takes care of everything.
Worked like a charm guys, thanks so much! Running OpenDesire right now, absolutely love it! Thanks again!
teppic74 said:
The problem with the first method is that it corrupts your misc partition, which will need fixing. The second one takes care of everything.
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Didn't on mine...

[Q] risks vs advantages of S-OFF'ing

I've been pondering whether or not to S-OFF my desire for a little while now but I'm not really sure if I should do it or not. Specifically because I can't find the risks of doing it (maybe I'm not looking hard enough though) and the potential benefits of doing it(i've seen some cool stuff such as widget locker themes but not much else).
If somebody could give me a good idea of whether or not it is worth it it'd be much appreciated
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the pros are that you will have r/w access to phone instead of r/o. also you can change your boot partitions to have more free internal memory.
but if you do not know what you're doing you can potentially brick your phone.
if you do so always check md5sums of downloaded files to avoid corrupted files.
jacketyjoe said:
I've been pondering whether or not to S-OFF my desire for a little while now but I'm not really sure if I should do it or not. Specifically because I can't find the risks of doing it (maybe I'm not looking hard enough though) and the potential benefits of doing it(i've seen some cool stuff such as widget locker themes but not much else).
If somebody could give me a good idea of whether or not it is worth it it'd be much appreciated
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mariosraptor said:
the pros are that you will have r/w access to phone instead of r/o. also you can change your boot partitions to have more free internal memory.
but if you do not know what you're doing you can potentially brick your phone.
if you do so always check md5sums of downloaded files to avoid corrupted files.
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More internal storage is nice but what can I do with read and write access?
Is files being corrupted the only risk? is there any other way I can brick my phone (as in if I follow guides to the letter and the md5 checksums are the same).
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jacketyjoe said:
More internal storage is nice but what can I do with read and write access?
Is files being corrupted the only risk? is there any other way I can brick my phone (as in if I follow guides to the letter and the md5 checksums are the same).
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You get more internal storage through the r/w access, you can change partition tables, you can edit your boot animations/splashes and geeky stuff like that. If you're just a casual user there's not really any point in doing it, however if you like messing around with the ins and outs of your phone (which im guessing you are since your researching it), its a pretty cool thing to have. The only risk I know of is if you download a corrupt img that you're going to push to you phone or if somehow the connection between your pc and your phone is lost while your pushing the files, can brick the phone. So in order to avoid this make sure the md5 checksum is ok for the image you downloaded (use a program like hashcalc to check this) and make sure your phone has plenty of battery + dont trip over your usb cable while your pushing files
Personally I think there is no reason to S-off as long as you can't find a reason yourself why you would want to S-off. If you need to ask why you want to S-off don't do it. If you have a reason you can go for it. If you follow the procedures and check md5 (which should be in the procedures) there is no realistic risk, but I know form one person that he had a BSOD while using AlphaRev and that bricked his phone. That is just bad luck and can't be prevented.
So yes there is always a risk that something goes wrong, but that is the same risk that you get hit by a truck when you go outside even too you watch out.
I take no responsibility for what happens even too you should be good.
Another thing... as far as security goes, keep in mind that when you s-off, any app you give su rights too, also has full unrestricted access to your device
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xp4nd3r said:
You get more internal storage through the r/w access, you can change partition tables, you can edit your boot animations/splashes and geeky stuff like that. If you're just a casual user there's not really any point in doing it, however if you like messing around with the ins and outs of your phone (which im guessing you are since your researching it), its a pretty cool thing to have. The only risk I know of is if you download a corrupt img that you're going to push to you phone or if somehow the connection between your pc and your phone is lost while your pushing the files, can brick the phone. So in order to avoid this make sure the md5 checksum is ok for the image you downloaded (use a program like hashcalc to check this) and make sure your phone has plenty of battery + dont trip over your usb cable while your pushing files
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Awesome, I'm still considering it. I know all about checking MD5 sums so you don't mess up everything, been flashing BIOS's on my computer for years
TheGhost1233 said:
Personally I think there is no reason to S-off as long as you can't find a reason yourself why you would want to S-off. If you need to ask why you want to S-off don't do it. If you have a reason you can go for it. If you follow the procedures and check md5 (which should be in the procedures) there is no realistic risk, but I know form one person that he had a BSOD while using AlphaRev and that bricked his phone. That is just bad luck and can't be prevented.
So yes there is always a risk that something goes wrong, but that is the same risk that you get hit by a truck when you go outside even too you watch out.
I take no responsibility for what happens even too you should be good.
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I can find a few reasons but I'm not really sure its worth the risk. From what you guys are telling me the only risks are that you download a corrupt file, you accidentally pull out your phone or a freak of nature. From what I've been reading I'd be fine to RMA it if something went wrong though wouldn't I? If it was completely dead (i.e. brick) they wouldn't be able to tell what caused it would they?
AndroHero said:
Another thing... as far as security goes, keep in mind that when you s-off, any app you give su rights too, also has full unrestricted access to your device
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Which is a good thing to have
jacketyjoe said:
Which is a good thing to have
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not if the application is malicious with full access they can do things like make calls without showing the dialer and send sms's without permission .....
AndroHero said:
not if the application is malicious with full access they can do things like make calls without showing the dialer and send sms's without permission .....
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Of course, if you avoid said malicious applications everything should be good
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Does flashing a new radio, kernel, recovery need s-off? How about partitioning my sd card with Amonra, do i need s-off? I confused with the s-off description and just want to be sure.
Ghettonine said:
Does flashing a new radio, kernel, recovery need s-off? How about partitioning my sd card with Amonra, do i need s-off? I confused with the s-off description and just want to be sure.
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Nothing of the above actions require s-off.
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Ghettonine said:
Does flashing a new radio, kernel, recovery need s-off? How about partitioning my sd card with Amonra, do i need s-off? I confused with the s-off description and just want to be sure.
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All s-off does is give you write access to security locked areas of the nand chip while the device is booted ......
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So you are able to use a Custom ROM without having S-Off? because i just rooted my Desire, and i didnt flash any custom ROM, but i do have S-ON, i thought that you would have S-off when you've rooted it?
Btw i rooted it with Unrevoked 3.22
mathiasb2 said:
So you are able to use a Custom ROM without having S-Off? because i just rooted my Desire, and i didnt flash any custom ROM, but i do have S-ON, i thought that you would have S-off when you've rooted it?
Btw i rooted it with Unrevoked 3.22
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you can still flash a custom rom just with an unrevoked root. To s-off your device you need to follow another process for instance the one here.
xp4nd3r said:
you can still flash a custom rom just with an unrevoked root. To s-off your device you need to follow another process for instance the one here.
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Thanks! Then I don't have to read up on that s-off, as I just want to be able to save to sdcard
Offtopic: do I need to download a special radio if I want to install the newest Leedroid? I'm on a 2.2 FroYo, with a 32.43.00.32.U_5.09.00.20 RADIO (atleast I guess that my radio it says in my baseband in software info)
- Mathias
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It would be good to update to the latest radio, leedroids mini-site has download links and md5 checksums for the radios (make sure you check the md5 checksums, if it is different it can potentially brick your phone).
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Well, finally S-OFF'ed my phone, it was rather painless. The problem is that I can't flash the oxygen hboot because I can't get the Android sdk working
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Ace Hack and the Gold card.

Hello
I've had my Desire HD for about 9 months now and i'm wanting to have a go at rooting it.
I came across "Ace Hack" in this thread:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1259821
I'm pretty sure that i understand the instructions on how to root using this method...
The one thing that i don't understand is the "Gold Card"......i know that it's create automatically in this rooting process.....but...
Can i use my existing 8gb SDcard that's already mounted within my phone to create the Gold card......and if i did would it erase the data/photo's/music/files etc etc that i have stored on that SDcard ???...
Or......do i use a different SDcard and use that one instead for the Gold card and then remount my original SDcard after my device has been rooted ???....
Thanks in advance for any guidance.....
Yes you can use the SD card you already have and no, you shouldn't lose any of your personal information.
This is the video that I used to root my inspire4g and it worked perfectly. First follow the manual that comes with acehack, then just follow this video. I had absolutely no issues. Took me maybe an hour the first time, just because of paranoia, but if I had to do it again it would only probably take about 10 minutes of actual "work".
Also, you'll need the HTC drivers, so make sure you download those before you start the rooting process.
Good Luck!
Just read. It's all there. And welcome to the world of S OFF.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD with Beats Audio using XDA App
Just used it on my Mac using Lion 10.7 , worked great.
Read the documentation very well and make sure to follow the instructions.
The Ace Hack is a one step process and the gold card creation is one of the steps.
Depending on what firmware you have on your phone it is possible that you will lose everything on the SD card (again, read the documentation).
When I used AAHK to unlock my phone, one of the questions I had was exactly this one, with the gold card. AAHK will use make the SD card a gold card but once the process is finished you can use any card you want in your phone, the gold/a card is no longer needed.
Thanks for your replies...
I have looked at my phone and it will be downgraded during the process.
HTC WWE Europe 3.12.405.1 downgrades to HTC WWE EU GB 2.50.405.2
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So it seems that i will lose all the data off my SDcard.......i'll just backup everything onto my computer first !!!..
I'm away from home at the moment so i don't have access to my computer but i think i will try and use Ubuntu.
It seems that once i insert the link from the manual into terminal it will automatically download and start "Ace Hack" once i select 1 from the Ace Hack menu.
Even through i'll be using the Ubuntu operating system and not Win7 i take it i will still require the HTC drivers in the Tools/wndrivers folder to be installed ???...
I would just go ahead and find out for myself, but i'm away from home for the next week.....so i'm just asking questions and doing some "prep" work.
If that's the case then i think that i'm now happy to proceed with this .
Thanks again for your replies....
I think drivers come with AAHK when you download it.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD with Beats Audio using XDA App
Yeah, the drivers are included with the "Ace Hack" download.
To answer my own question in my previous post as to wheather or not i need those drivers installed if i choose to use Ubuntu as opposed to Windows 7.
I've read the manual again, the way i'm reading it now is that it's a prerequisite that these drivers have to be installed no matter which computer operating system you choose to install "Ace Hack" with...
I've never used Ubuntu before, so i'm intrigued to use it !!!...
Cheers....
Drivers are universal and required no matter the system. However, just cuz you haven't done it on ubuntu before, I suggest wait till you can get ahold of windows. In my experience, knowing what you are doing never hurt lol.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD with Beats Audio using XDA App
djolebih said:
I suggest wait till you can get ahold of windows. In my experience, knowing what you are doing never hurt lol.
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..... i have to admit that i'm pretty familiar with running windows and cmd prompt's.
I have two Windows 7 computers at home, one of them has been heavily modified/overclocked and has USB hubs and all manner of other gaming "peripherals" attached to it...
My second computer is a small netbook, a much slower machine by all accounts but "untouched" and pretty much still stock after 3 years of use.
The manual underlines the importance of a clean enviroment in which to install the hack with, so machine 2 would be the machine of choice.
Unfortunately i'm away from home so i'm going to have to wait another week before i can hack my Desire ........Those custom ROM's sure look good !!!!.
Just one more noob question :-
Once i Clockworkmod installed is it possible to take an "image" of my phone so that i would be able to return it to stock if i ever wanted to ?...
Cheers....
Gunnergolly said:
Just one more noob question :-
Once i Clockworkmod installed is it possible to take an "image" of my phone so that i would be able to return it to stock if i ever wanted to ?...
Cheers....
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I guess a Nandroid backup with the Clockworkmod would do the job, but im not sure.
What I'm sure of is that you'll never go back to stock ROM. Once you go black, you NEVER go back
I would suggest using 4EXT recovery.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD with Beats Audio using XDA App
Thanks for your replies djolebih & ordevski, can't wait until i go "black" !!! .
I rooted using the Ace hack kit about 6 months ago and haven't looked back.I did have to manually download htc drivers myself. Once they were installed it was a breeze.
Back up everything with Titanium Backup, then once rooted ROM Manager is great for you rom backups.
Once you are up and running, you will never want to go back to stock.
One warning though, and be extremely careful.....ITS ADDICTIVE ;-)

[SOLVED] New HTC Desire (Android) user, need help

Before all jump on me being noob, yes I watched video and read rules. I hope I post this thread in place where it belongs.
I am not native English speaker so please don't throw me in fire if you see some writing errors.
I have always been Nokia user, from 1995 to this day, and now I got HTC Desire, it is old but I got it for free, it was in the box almost 1-2 years (never used) and that person discovered it before a month and gave it to me because he don't need it.
This thing is along first editions by the look of it, Android 2.1 Eclair, Amoled
I have updated it to latest official update (as I can remember 2.2.2)
I got spare MicroSD card (8GB class 10) and it working good with it (looks better then 4GB one I got with phone)
I also added some aps etc..memory was soon filled..I saw on Google that its common problem.
Now after some intro..lets go to my questions..
1. My goal is to root device and put best/stable rom with HTC Sense thing, mostly for additional memory on SD and as I did understand better control and speed of my phone - is that correct?
2. Is it possible to back-up EVERYTHING on my phone, store it to PC, and return it if I am not happy with new ROM, so I can continue to use it exactly where I left it with all my apps and file there?
3. I really don't know anything about android (some things I have read about rooting on google..) so I would need help, someone to point me at correct tutorials and rom to download. Maybe I am Android noob but I am good with PC so dont worry I will make some noob mistakes while rooting and adding new rom.
All my phone info I could find:
So its 2.2.2.
Baseband: 32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27
Kernel: 2.6.32.15-gf5a401c [email protected] #1
Build no: 2.29.405.14 CL345208
Software: 2.29.405.14
Browser: Webkit 3.1
Hboot
Bravo PVT1 Ship S-ON
Hboot-0.93.0001
Microp-031d
Touchpanel-synw0101
Radio-5.11.05.27
Aug 10 2010
If someone have will to help I would be grateful.
try this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
pretty straight foward, next time please search before starting a new thread
and if that doesnt work, search how to root desire with revolutionary
i first started with this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
very helpful if you don't know anything about what you're doing (like you and me) ^^
the most difficult question would be, which ROM to use. you said you'd like to keep Sense.
well here is an overview of every ROM you can get for your desire:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
find out the differences between them, and then decide which one suits you best. but don't be afraid to try non-sense (haha, no pun intended ) ROMs.
now some explicit answers:
(1) yes, almost every ROM allows you to move internal storage to your SD and some even speed up your device. with some you could experience reboots now and then, but thats rather rare.
(2) yes, you can backup everything. there are two ways to do that:
a - NANDroid backup: it creates some kind of an image (like the .ISO is the image of a DVD), which can be restored, so that your phone looks the same as before.
i recommend it every time you change or update your ROM. NANDroid backups are available after you rooted and S-OFF'd your device.
b - there are many apps on the market to backup nearly every part of your user data. the most popular is Titanium Backup. it can make a copy highscores, user input like passwords, bookmarks of your browser, and so on.
contacts can usually be secured via your googlemail account.
all of those backups can and will be placed on you SD card, from where you can easily copy them to your desktop pc.
question 3 is already answered...keep an eye out for sticky threads (the ones pinned on top of every sub-forum) and you will find all the information needed.
good luck.
The easiest way to learn about android is to test it out..play with it as much as you want and about rooting use revolutionary, it's the fastest and easiest method.Also, about restoring your Rom, you can do that by backing it up in recovery, nandroid backup as they call it.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app
the two guides linked in the posts 2 and 3 are quite outdated. neither even mention revolutionary.
revolutionary does not give you root. it performs s-off. root comes after flashing the superuser.zip.
@OP, i always recommend this set of guides, which explain a bit more in detail about what everything is first, so you can get an understanding of what you're doing before you do it (just as important!). the video guide is also useful to take you through the actual process.
take your time, i'm sure you'll eventually find what you want :good:
Thanks to all, I will "study" all links before proceed, Like I said I was just looking for few answers with directions of correct tutorials.
hmm..after reading all that stuff I am just confused.
Can anyone point at step-by-step tutorial of how to just make my phone have additional memory on SD card, I want to keep my official 2.2.2. ROM with all apps installed.
As I understand I need to root phone and make some linux partition on SD.
Now, I don't know how to keep apps already installed etc so thats where you guys step in with tutorials for my problem.
Few things to keep in mind:
I dont want S-OFF if not needed
I dont want to change my RADIO, ROM or whatever.
Just additional memory on SD card.
Thanks advance.
in that case you should take a look at this:
Link2SD
it's an application that allows you to move apps to your 2nd SD partition. no need to flash ROMs or anything else.
the only premise is that you need root.
i don't know if this app has any disadvantages...
but i recommend you to take a closer look at flashing ROMs anyways, because most people (including me) claim that their phone was kinda revived with a new custom ROM.
it's really worth a try. sure, there's a huge amount of reading involved, but in the end it's simpler than you think.
NewAndroidNoob said:
hmm..after reading all that stuff I am just confused.
Can anyone point at step-by-step tutorial of how to just make my phone have additional memory on SD card, I want to keep my official 2.2.2. ROM with all apps installed.
As I understand I need to root phone and make some linux partition on SD.
Now, I don't know how to keep apps already installed etc so thats where you guys step in with tutorials for my problem.
Few things to keep in mind:
I dont want S-OFF if not needed
I dont want to change my RADIO, ROM or whatever.
Just additional memory on SD card.
Thanks advance.
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first you need root to install titanium backup then, you can take complete backups of your apps, cuz installing a custom ROM will surely destroy the apps.......just take your time, you'll get it........ I took 3 Weeks like you , reading, searching and reading some more..... Then i started doing, and all things fell in place., 1 year has passed and not looking back....
Regards
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app
NewAndroidNoob said:
hmm..after reading all that stuff I am just confused.
Can anyone point at step-by-step tutorial of how to just make my phone have additional memory on SD card, I want to keep my official 2.2.2. ROM with all apps installed.
As I understand I need to root phone and make some linux partition on SD.
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it does take a lot of time to understand it all, that's a good thing. many people with no experience with rooting have used the guides successfully
as above, links2sd should work. however, i was exactly the same, thinking i didn't want a custom rom, just thought i wanted more memory. but a custom rom is well worth the time when you find the right one for you. :good:
the guides will show you how to partition sd card properly (gparted or 4ext recovery)
Now, I don't know how to keep apps already installed etc so thats where you guys step in with tutorials for my problem.
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BU7CH4 said in 3rd post...use apps like titanium backup. please read what we tell you
Few things to keep in mind:
I dont want S-OFF if not needed
I dont want to change my RADIO, ROM or whatever.
Just additional memory on SD card.
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s-off is not absolutely necessary, but is much more versatile, and more useful if things go wrong in the future. revolutionary will perform s-off anyway, and is ideal for your hboot version. don't be scared of it.
upgrading radio is not absolutely necessary
So after all readings and courage building, today I have decided to run operation X (lol)
Here is what I have done for now:
1. Done many things with PC drivers and comms PC-Mobile
2. S-OFF via Revolutionary
3. Denied CUSTOM RECOVERY from Revolutionary, read somewhere that 4EXT Recovery Touch is better. (I hope I didn't do something wrong with this decision)
4. Installed 4EXT Recovery Touch - custom recovery
5. From Recovery installed Superuser-3.0.7-efgh-signed
Now, it looks like I have now HTC Desire with S-OFF and root.
If I understand correctly now I can install titanium backup and also do nandroid backups.
After all backups I do, then I can proceed to new custom roms, extend memory to SD etc..still I am not sure do I want do more then extend mem.. Well, with time I will probably explore new roms just for fun or whatever.
But for today I have done enough (too much stuff in short time for newbee ))
BTW for now all has gone without problem or errors.
Thank everyone on help.
This thread can now be closed.
thread wont be closed, just edit the title to [SOLVED] New HTC Desire etc
happy flashing
Sent from my HTC Desire
jmcclue said:
thread wont be closed, just edit the title to [SOLVED] New HTC Desire etc
happy flashing
Sent from my HTC Desire
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Oh, lol, habits from other forums..sorry, there, title changed :victory:
NewAndroidNoob said:
So after all readings and courage building, today I have decided to run operation X (lol)
Here is what I have done for now:
1. Done many things with PC drivers and comms PC-Mobile
2. S-OFF via Revolutionary
3. Denied CUSTOM RECOVERY from Revolutionary, read somewhere that 4EXT Recovery Touch is better. (I hope I didn't do something wrong with this decision)
4. Installed 4EXT Recovery Touch - custom recovery
5. From Recovery installed Superuser-3.0.7-efgh-signed
Now, it looks like I have now HTC Desire with S-OFF and root.
If I understand correctly now I can install titanium backup and also do nandroid backups.
After all backups I do, then I can proceed to new custom roms, extend memory to SD etc..still I am not sure do I want do more then extend mem.. Well, with time I will probably explore new roms just for fun or whatever.
But for today I have done enough (too much stuff in short time for newbee ))
BTW for now all has gone without problem or errors.
Thank everyone on help.
This thread can now be closed.
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Why too much? On my first day i corrupted my nand guess it couldnt hold out on so much flashing in one day.. ) anyway have fun with your new toy

Insufficient Memory - Solutions?

Like many other Desire owners, I'm getting the dreaded 'Low on space' / 'Insufficient Memory' notifications on my phone. I've already tried transferring as many apps to the SD card as possible but I'm still left with just 13MB of memory. I've also cleared the internet browser cache.
What options have I got? Is there a way of getting more memory without rooting the phone? Are there different rooting methods? Which ROM should I install?
I'm running Android version 2.29.405.5 if it makes any difference.
Thanks
going s-off and rooted is probably the best way to go to get the most out of ur phone. click the "Desire - All Things Root" on my sig for more info. if ur up for it then post ur bootloader info. turn off ur phone then hold volume down + power. then tell us what does it say? pvt?? hboot ?? etc etc
and im sure every1 + me here will help u as best as they can
Sent from my HTC Desire
jmcclue said:
going s-off and rooted is probably the best way to go to get the most out of ur phone. click the "Desire - All Things Root" on my sig for more info. if ur up for it then post ur bootloader info. turn off ur phone then hold volume down + power. then tell us what does it say? pvt?? hboot ?? etc etc
and im sure every1 + me here will help u as best as they can
Sent from my HTC Desire
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So are these the stages I have to go through?
1. Backup
2. Change phone to s-off
3. Root phone
4. Install ROM
5. Restore
This is my bootloader info:
Bravo PVT1 Ship S-ON
HBOOT-0.93.0001
Microp-031D
Touch Panel-Synt0101
Radio-5.11.05.27
Aug 10 2010, 17:52:18
http://revolutionary.io/
go here follow instructions, download the revolutionay file, fill in the dropdown boxes, htc desire, 0.93xxx and s/n to generate beta key. then plug in ur phone (usb) and run the revolutionary program u downloaded, it will ask u to type in the beta key u got, type it or copy/paste then hit enter. it will ask u to install CWM recovery, type y. and then let it do its thing. before all this make sure u have all the drivers installed on ur computer for ur phone.
Sent from my HTC Desire
How do I know what drivers I need and where do I get them from? Will my phone have Android installed and be ready to use after I install the revolutionary file or is that just to s-off it?
http://androidforums.com/desire-all...ff-root-htc-desire-revolutionary-updated.html
like i said in my first post read the guide, everything u need is there. also download HTC sync then uninstall HTC sync ONLY, leaving the drivers on ur computer, also what u could do is when u run the HTC sync setup just cancel it once the drivers are installed.
Sent from my HTC Desire
you're lucky with 0.93 hboot.
Do I have to do anything to my SD card before I start the S-Off / Rooting processes? Format it? Partition it? I currently have some apps, documents and photos on it.
lambada24 said:
Do I have to do anything to my SD card before I start the S-Off / Rooting processes? Format it? Partition it? I currently have some apps, documents and photos on it.
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u will only have to partition ur sdcard when u install a custom rom, then u will have to backup ur apps and things coz it will erase everything. revolutionary is only to s-off ur phone. make sure u read up about everything first before doing anything, u dont have to understand absolutley everything but atleast have an idea and understand the risks.
Sent from my HTC Desire
i've read evertyhing and i'm still lost...wish someone could write step by step.
1. do this (in case of)
2. do that (be careful about)
3. do this
4. do that
like this for total n00bs
kmetek said:
i've read evertyhing and i'm still lost...wish someone could write step by step.
1. do this (in case of)
2. do that (be careful about)
3. do this
4. do that
like this for total n00bs
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if u click the Desire - All Things Root in my sig everything is there. read the FAQ sections aswell, it explains alot. and if u still cant understand anything or work out what u need to do then maybe s-off & rooted aint for u
Sent from my HTC Desire
kmetek said:
i've read evertyhing and i'm still lost...wish someone could write step by step.
1. do this (in case of)
2. do that (be careful about)
3. do this
4. do that
like this for total n00bs
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My fellow noob! ( )
I was in same position as you before few days, this pro guys don't like to write steps, they point to guides and then you need to read ALOT to get picture of what is all needed, but luckily for you I am here to help lol
First to say some things about it...
1. We will S-OFF your phone (doesnt matter what S-OFF means)
2. Root phone
3. Modify your official ROM you got on phone (I presume its 2.2.2 as latest official android for Desire)
4. You will have free space
I will EDIT this post after I write all things you need to do
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you can PM so we don't spam too much
2. already rooted with
[ROM] [28/12] Pre-rooted Stock Froyo (2.29.405.5) [Optional mods] by teppic74
HBOOT: 0.80 S-ON
može i po hrvatski
NewAndroidNoob said:
My fellow noob! ( )
I was in same position as you before few days, this pro guys don't like to write steps, they point to guides and then you need to read ALOT to get picture of what is all needed, but luckily for you I am here to help lol
First to say some things about it...
1. We will S-OFF your phone (doesnt matter what S-OFF means)
2. Root phone
3. Modify your official ROM you got on phone (I presume its 2.2.2 as latest official android for Desire)
4. You will have free space
I will EDIT this post after I write all things you need to do
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s-off =security off
root = superuser permissions
anyway any1 can tell some1 run revolutionary and flash a zip file or rom, but the point of READING is so that u have an idea of what ur doing therefore u wont be back here in a week complaining that ur phone "suddenly stopped working" or "is my desire bricked"
lol rant over
Sent from my HTC Desire
kmetek said:
you can PM so we don't spam too much
2. already rooted with
[ROM] [28/12] Pre-rooted Stock Froyo (2.29.405.5) [Optional mods] by teppic74
HBOOT: 0.80 S-ON
može i po hrvatski
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lol I thought you are OP .. lambada24... and that you got non-rooted phone etc...damn, this change everything haha.
Since you are already rooted then just add another partition via PC and gparted live bootable CD, EXT3 on SD card and install app Link2SD, and you are good to go. Well tomorow I write something on PM
I've S-Offed the phone and rooted it. What ROM options should I be considering? Does Ice-cream sandwich work well on the Desire? I don't need anything highly modified, just something that will let me transfer as much data as possible to the SD card.
lambada24 said:
I've S-Offed the phone and rooted it. What ROM options should I be considering? Does Ice-cream sandwich work well on the Desire? I don't need anything highly modified, just something that will let me transfer as much data as possible to the SD card.
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well done in getting s-off, easy aint it? personaly i wouldnt use ICS but its up to u. go look at all the roms in Desire Android Development and pick whats best for u, all devs post in the OP what features they have a2sd etc and install requirements.
also i would recommend 4ext recovery instead of clockworkmod. click 4ext recovery in my sig and download "4ext recovery updater app" install it then flash 4ext recovery from within the app
Sent from my HTC Desire
ICS roms are working well but all have one issue or another. You could try CM7.2 (gingerbread) if you don't mind loosing HTC sense.
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hans moleman said:
ICS roms are working well but all have one issue or another. You could try CM7.2 (gingerbread) if you don't mind loosing HTC sense.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app
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For me Sense is priceless...
hans moleman said:
ICS roms are working well but all have one issue or another. You could try CM7.2 (gingerbread) if you don't mind loosing HTC sense.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app
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i was gona try cm7.2 tomorrow coz theres an IN2SD-S version now
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