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[Q] Root access to install apps to sd

Hi after spending about a week reading through forums I managed to change my friends HTC HD2 to android using the LEO "Stock" NAND Android ROM.
All went great thanks to the excellent instuctions on here.
I then put z4root on and app2sd and all worked great.
I then deceicded to buy an HTC desire for myself not the HD one.
However maybe I should have done some more reading first as I cant find a way to root device to install apps to sd card.
I dont really want to flash another rom as phone is new and under warrant.Can you root without flashing a new rom or somehow move them to sd
Have I just made a huge mistake buying this phone or is there a way.
All help appreciated thanks

How does rooting void the warranty less than flashing a custom rom? Don't answer cause it doesn't.
It is possible to root and keep the current rom, but if you want to enable A2SD then it's a lot of work (not talking about the froyo crap).
So if you want A2SD is suggest you root with Unrevoked and flash Leedroid. Don't forget to make a ext partition on the sd card before flashing.
Disclaimer: You are the only one responsible for you phone, no one else!

You can root the stock ROM as TheGhost 233 said. You can also use AlphaRev's S-Off as well on it if you wanted.
As for me, I couldn't be bothered with A2SD so I just S-Off'd and then used the n1table to increase my internal memory. The ROM I use uses bugger all in the system. Also, you can move apps to SD card anyway if you have 2.2+.

gaz1888 said:
Hi after spending about a week reading through forums I managed to change my friends HTC HD2 to android using the LEO "Stock" NAND Android ROM.
All went great thanks to the excellent instuctions on here.
I then put z4root on and app2sd and all worked great.
I then deceicded to buy an HTC desire for myself not the HD one.
However maybe I should have done some more reading first as I cant find a way to root device to install apps to sd card.
I dont really want to flash another rom as phone is new and under warrant.Can you root without flashing a new rom or somehow move them to sd
Have I just made a huge mistake buying this phone or is there a way.
All help appreciated thanks
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No, I don't think you've made a mistake buying this particular phone....seriously....
As for rooting, use the Unrevoked method which is the easiest....Alpharev S-OFF works too ( I think you can't flash custom HBOOT images if your phone has the latest PVT-4 NAND..better check on that..)
Here's the complete guide from the Desire Android Development section of the forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189

Thanks for the replies I am waiting on phone getting delivered today from virgin.
I will post back when I get a chance to have a look at it.

I got root using unrevoked3 but my phone is s-on
My phone is on virgin branded and I presume locked though not tried another sin in it yet.
If I wanted to flash leedroid Rom onto phone what steps would I have to do
I put on setcpu so that seems to have helped battery life but would like custom Rom on
Thanks
Sent from my HTC desire

Hold on wait a minute you don't have to flash a new ROM at all your v-mobile phone should be on froyo (android 2.2) current software version 2.22.351.3 which already lets you put some apps onto your sd card at the moment i only have 3 downloaded apps that are on phone only mode.
[edit] you can also add downloaded apps from computer to sd card and install with Astro - Every one that i have done this with enabled move to sd and i still have 98mb of space to store more apps (even with the ones that are installed by v-mobile)

Thanks for reply yes it is on new update but I thought some of the modded roms were using less battery power so I wanted to know how to install one.
I have rooted using unrevoked 3 but i notice my phone is s-on
Just wanted to know if someone could advise me on the steps to do this or point me to a guide.
Will look at that astro as well thanks.
I have modinstall also

The issue you have is should things go wrong you can't return to stock as the Virgin RUU hasn't been leaked, so make a gold card now before you continue. This way, should the worst happen, you can flash the generic HTC RUU to get back to stock
Then look at custom ROMs using A2SD+ - most do it these days but best to check the ROM thread in question to make sure. Then partition your SD card and flash the ROM and you're good to go.
S-OFF isn't something you NEED - just means you can make changes to the OS without having to go into recovery first. If you're not going to be making a lot of changes bar a new ROM then leave that for now

EddyOS said:
The issue you have is should things go wrong you can't return to stock as the Virgin RUU hasn't been leaked, so make a gold card now before you continue. This way, should the worst happen, you can flash the generic HTC RUU to get back to stock
Then look at custom ROMs using A2SD+ - most do it these days but best to check the ROM thread in question to make sure. Then partition your SD card and flash the ROM and you're good to go.
S-OFF isn't something you NEED - just means you can make changes to the OS without having to go into recovery first. If you're not going to be making a lot of changes bar a new ROM then leave that for now
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This is what i was thinking and knowing v-mobile if you can't find a stock ROM to flash back to may have no warranty. That's the only reason i havent messed with mine

Early version (2.1) are about so you could downgrade using the guide on here but I don't know if it'd work (depends on the HBOOT)
Either way, a gold card is needed

[Q] Help for noob - riskfree root / S-OFF / flashing

Although I rooted my own Desire back in May of last year, I have since moved on to a different phone and hence stopped following development etc for the Desire.
I have a work colleague who would like the benefits of a rooted, custom ROM but he has no experience in phone-modifying. He basically wants better battery life (so SetCPU would do the job for that) and more space for apps (Apps2SD the original, not Google's implementation). On top of that I'm sure he would probably enjoy the enhancements of the new Sense ROMs as well.
When I rooted my own Desire it was back in the days of fake-flash and I don't think my Desire was ever S-OFFed - I only had a moderate understanding of what I was doing, and there were a few brown trouser moments as I recall!
What I'm looking for is a complete guide start to finish of the easiest, least risky way to currently root a Desire and install custom recovery (presumably ClockworkMod & Rom Manager are standard for the Desire still?).
I've looked around the forums and found guides which explain some of it, however these threads run into 30, 40, 50+ pages which I think is a bit much reading if you don't really understand what you're reading about. Luckily I have an interest in it, but to my colleague it's just a means to an end, to get his phone working in a decent manner! Unsurprisingly, he is not interested in learning how a combustion engine works in order to drive his car either.
So, can someone write me a FOOLPROOF guide from start to finish:
1. Rooting and S-OFF (with a basic explanation of what this is),
2. Installing a custom recovery (again with an explanation of what this is, and how to use it, Nandroid backups etc)
3. Installing ROMs
I know I'm asking a bit much - I'm just trying to make it as easy as possible for my colleague without actually doing it myself, as I'm not really a good enough friend that if I did take his phone away for a couple of days, that he wouldn't mind if it came back bricked! It needs to be his decision to do it, and him doing it.
I am willing to donate if someone can put all this together for him.

This should have most of the things needed.
Don't worry about S-off since it is not needed and one of the only procedures that can really brick a phone.
Edit: Before starting with rooting, boot in to hboot and check the pvt version. If it's pvt4, the best thing to do is to use Amon_RA as a alternative recovery image. To do this just follow the guide but befoer clicking on root in Unrevoked go to "file" and select the alternative recovery.

You can use the unrevoked way which is too easy to do and if you want to S-Off, although not needed, you can visit AlphaRev

I would say for definite, forget about s-off. Not exactly sure what it is myself, but as it's completely unnecessary for the whole rooting/flashing procedure, why bother?
I rooted from a linux boot cd which sounds complicated but I think is actually easier as there's no faffing about with installing sync and then uninstalling it again.

S-Off disables NAND security on GSM phones. When you use unrevoked, it only disables it for CDMA. Also disabling the phones NAND security enables you to do further things like change the splash screen, install another Hboot, delete system apps and so on. If you think rooting gives you more freedom, S-Off gives you even more. It's there for those that need it though. It's not difficult if you do your research. But to be honest, it's an automated process with it working 99.9% of the time.

I did s off without hitch 100% safe.
Also new hboot new recovery with android flasher.
GoogleJelly said:
S-Off disables NAND security on GSM phones. When you use unrevoked, it only disables it for CDMA. Also disabling the phones NAND security enables you to do further things like change the splash screen, install another Hboot, delete system apps and so on. If you think rooting gives you more freedom, S-Off gives you even more. It's there for those that need it though. It's not difficult if you do your research. But to be honest, it's an automated process with it working 99.9% of the time.
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S-OFF does nothing though bar mean you can delete apps without having to be in recovery. for someone who has no idea about modding it's just not worth doing. Rooting and using a custom Senes-based ROM will do the job just fine

It does way more than mean you can just delete apps. The methods for installing stuff these days are more or less 100% bug free and won't bugger up your device. Why not give it a go? Just make sure you read info and research it a little first before you start. Just don't do what I did and almost brick it

But if the OP doesn't know how to root then they're not going to need to S-OFF are they? Seems pointless

I did S-OFF for two reasons:
1) To install custom HBOOT so that I get more space in /data
2) For the hell of it.....
EDIT: I think some of the ROMs need S-OFF enabled (I'm not sure....) but, at the same time, I don't think S-OFF is absolutely necessary.

S-Off isn't necessary to have. No rom requires you to have it. It is just something that you may as well have if you root because it gives you way more freedom.

Totally disagree, it's not needed at all if you just want the phone to work. Custom ROM with A2SD+ is MORE than enough for a complete n00b

EddyOS said:
Totally disagree, it's not needed at all if you just want the phone to work. Custom ROM with A2SD+ is MORE than enough for a complete n00b
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Agree completely. If you want to explore custom ROM's, get A2SD etc then root. Once you're happy with the whole root/recovery/flashing thing THEN look at s-off if it is necessary to do what you want. For a lot of people it really isn't required at all, and it definitely shouldn't be the first thing you think of doing.

[Q] Planning to pop my rooting/new ROM cherry

So I was kinda scared about putting Android on my old HD2 but I think things look a bit easier on my DHD so I'm planning on taking this big step
Just a couple of quick questions:
Will this SuperOneClick method work on my DHD?
Does this guide look comprehensive enough to you guys? Any missing steps, or things I might trip up on? I'm fairly PC-savvy but know next to nothing about this kind of thing
Thinking about CM7 (which I know is popular) or Revolution HD (as I like/am used to Sense). Any big pros or cons I should know about first?
Any tips or words of encouragement/reassurance would go a long way
Oh and in case it's important:
Desire HD
Vodafone UK
Android 2.2.1
Baseband 12.28e.60.140fU_26.04.02.17_M2
Kernel 2.6.32.21-g3d0aaff
Build 1.72.405.3 CL296490 release-keys
Software 1.72.405.3

I Recommend this one-click tool by jkoljo tool since it's what i used
One Click Radio S-Off
Also one thing the guide doesn't mention is you probably need to downgrade the rom since HTC made it so you can't root with that version, so follow this guide to downgrade. The guide also mentions using ENG S-OFF with you don't really need unless you're gonna play with fastboot commands. so just use Radio S-OFF it safer and easier to remove in case you need to go back to stock.
Downgrade Guide
Or else the guide looks pretty fool proof but unless you try to flash a radio there should be no risk to brick it the worst that could happen is a boot loop and those are pretty easy to get out of.
Also i can recommend Android Revolution since it's what i currently use, though i i've been wanting to try out MIUI but don't want the hassle of a full wipe again.
But good luck with rooting you're not gonna regret it
EDIT: Okay the guide does mention downgrade so just ignore what i said about that -.-

You can find the downgrade guide --> HERE

Thanks both for your advice, good to know these extra bits of info.
The last thing I forgot to ask was about backing up things like photos, apps and SMS messages. At what stage in the process (rooting -> flashing ROM) does that happen? Or is it even possible?
I've heard people talk about Titanium Back-up but I don't know when you use that, nor which things it works for and which things I would lose if I do this.

Photos that are on your SD card will not be touched by rooting and flashing ROMs.
Apps can be backed up with Titanium Backup, or you can install them again from the Market.
You can back up your SMS' with SMS Backup+ from the Market, its free and stores everything in your GMail account so you can easily restore them.
Titanium Backup will simply backup your apps to your SD card. You might experience problems when restoring apps from HTC Sense 2.2 to CM7 2.3, but then again you might not.

Right, well I think I've fallen at the first hurdle... :/
I used SuperOneClick and it did its thing (ran the check at the end, said everything was OK) and put SuperUser onto my phone.
So then I got Titanium Back-up to back-up all my apps etc and when I open it, it tells me I don't have root...
I think my problem is that I can't root as I'm on software 1.72...?
The downgrade guide says to root I have to be 1.3, but says that before downgrading I should back-up with Titanium. But how can I use Titanium if I don't have root, when I need to downgrade to root in the first place...?!
Argh any help out there, please?

SuperOneClick does not work for Desire HD. How about reading some guides in the android dev forum? There are a few links in my sig that give you full root + s-off, check them out. I recommend the radio s-off tool.

Hi jkoljo - thanks for the tip re. SuperOneClick not working with (my) DHD. Was driving me crazy.
I'm looking at your sig links - I think I need to follow the ENG S-OFF and Radio "Swiss Knife" ones? - but both say that I need to root with Visionary first...
I think this guide is what I need...?
If someone could also help me order the process below that would be a big help.
1. Root with Visionary
2. Backup apps using Titanium
3. Downgrade to software v1.32
4. Flash new ROM (Android Revolution HD or CM7)
5. Restore apps using Titanium
Oh and one extra qu: the CM site doesn't list the DHD as a compatible device. Should I use normal Desire, Evo 4G, something else...?

0. Backup with my backup pro, Titanium does not work without root
1. Downgrade
2. Follow my radio s-off guide, there is a link to visionary, just get the apk and use the app.
3. Follow my eng s-off guide
4. Done.
You can also refer to the ROM flashing guide, it has all the steps one after the other CM7 is compatible, just check the Android dev subforum. That list you linked is outdated.

Thanks jkoljo.
Worked through all the steps and I think it went OK. Now cracking on with flashing new ROM as per this guide...
1. Do I need to worry about the 'Flashing a radio' step(s)?
2. Reading through the instructions before I try it, it talks about doing a 'nandroid backup'. Not quite sure what this means - I searched Android Market for nandroid and nandroid backup but only three things came up, none of which seemed right.
Cheers!

ugotamesij said:
2. Reading through the instructions before I try it, it talks about doing a 'nandroid backup'. Not quite sure what this means - I searched Android Market for nandroid and nandroid backup but only three things came up, none of which seemed right.
Cheers!
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Nandroid backup is the backup solution incorporated into Clockwork recovery, it allows you to take a system snapshot, a la ghost, which will allow you to restore your system as is.

ghostofcain said:
Nandroid backup is the backup solution incorporated into Clockwork recovery, it allows you to take a system snapshot, a la ghost, which will allow you to restore your system as is.
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Right, gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up. Now I just need to know if I have to flash my radio too or not and I'll be good to go!

Clearest thread on rooting that I have seen. Thanks for starting and thanks to contributors.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

A completely nervous owner wants to root his HTC Desire...

Hi folks,
My 2.5 yr old Desire is either destined for the drawer or I hope to give it a lease of life by finally rooting it and getting a rom on it with jellybean. I assume that this will give me all the benefits PLUS get rid of the ongoing problems with a lack of internal memory that all Desires suffer from. Since I'm on a nice cheap sim-only deal plus I love the phone's size, etc, this seems the way to go.
So...I have very little idea as to what to do. I know I need to root first so another rom can be applied.
What I am after is the simplest, easiest, most direct way of rooting the phone.
I have:
Android version 2.2.2
Kernel version 2.6.32.15-g2633d94
Software no 2.33.161.6
I have had a good look on these forums as well as others and everytime someone asks a similar question there is too much assumed knowledge in the answer. Also, others always end up hijacking the thread with arguments over this way of doing it or that.
I need - please - a really simple explanation of what to do with the easiest method possible. Yes, I even need someone to tell me what gold card is and how I make one (if I need to that is).
Also - I am running a mac not a PC. I have access to Leopard and Snow Leopard OS's so please keep that in mind when referring to connecting the phone to a computer!!
Any more info you need then let me know.
Thanks in advance!

What about reading a guide? It's all here all you need to do is search.
It does include all the information you need, why people think they are special and need a "personal explanation" of everything?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
Ofc someone could help you, but it's just a waste of time since he will be telling u to do the same as in those guides, and they are here for a reason...
And before you ask, yes they include MAC OSX guide too.

dont worrie!
dont worrie to much if i can do it anyone can just read all you can what you dont understand am sure that somone on here will only be to happy to help if you go wrong it'll be all backed up so you can put it back anytime hope this helps you!

Yeah, I am lending my support too - Jellybean will solve all your problems with your device.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk 2

I wouldn't flash a ICS or a JB rom if you are a first time flasher. You'll be giving yourself more problems to deal with than necessary for a beginner. Flash Gingerbread roms until you know your way around...
via xda app

OK. Firstly, thanks for the help so far. I had already looked at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084 but it referred to Windows only. However, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189 is better for Macusers and I hadn't seen that link before. So it does seem easier than I first thought as he explains it very well. Still have questions though (and bear with me here)
From what I understand, the stages I need to go thru are:
1 - root the phone
2 - use alpharev to get the phone to S-off
3 - partition the SD card
4 - backup using alpharev's backup menu
5 - download and install a custom rom.
Firstly - how can I use alpharev with a Mac. It doesn't seem possible.
Secondly - at which stage can I get the phone to move apps2sd and how do I go about doing that? Or is that after I install a new rom? Will it move all the apps I want to the sd card?
Thirdly - in case things go wrong, what is the best way to backup the phone as it is before doing anything?
Thanks, and sorry if these have been addressed before but I am finding it hard to get clear answers that don't assume too much knowledge.

simon12 said:
Firstly - how can I use alpharev with a Mac. It doesn't seem possible.
Secondly - at which stage can I get the phone to move apps2sd and how do I go about doing that? Or is that after I install a new rom? Will it move all the apps I want to the sd card?
Thirdly - in case things go wrong, what is the best way to backup the phone as it is before doing anything?
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1. You need either Windows or Linux
2. After flashing ROM, most of em does it automatically (if you partitioned SD correctly, use 4ext recovery to do so)
3. I did never backup stock HTC ROM, i see no point in doing that since you can just restore to stock with RUU.

There's an app to backup sms messages in the play store that works with your gmail account. It let's you export.a backup file to your gmail account and you can also see the messages when logged into gmail. Then you can import from your gmail to restore them, it doesn't require root.
App is in the playstore. Contacts and stuff should be synced to your google account, you may want to export a file from the contacts app to the sd card and then copy or to the computer. You do that from the people or contacts app by pressing menu and settings or preferences usually. Exporting as a .vcf file I believe is what its called, then you can use any email program on computer even webmail to import them. If they aren't all on your gmail you need to have them there so when you wipe your phone and then sign into google it will restore them automatically.
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using xda premium

k3lcior said:
1. You need either Windows or Linux
2. After flashing ROM, most of em does it automatically (if you partitioned SD correctly, use 4ext recovery to do so)
3. I did never backup stock HTC ROM, i see no point in doing that since you can just restore to stock with RUU.
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1 - oh bugger! I'll drag my old XP partition out on the mac I guess!
2 - what is 4ext recovery? I also have heard of 3ext. EDIT: OK - just read the info in the link in your sig. Seems to do pretty well everything. Do I download this app before going thru the whole rooting thing?
3 - I downloaded a RUU file earlier (mac version) from a link on these boards which apparently matches my current phone. It's on my computer but I have no idea what to do with it.
Sorry but I really don't quite understand what others probably find very obvious, or I am at least unwilling to assume something that may leave me with a bricked phone. Better to ask.

CharliesTheMan said:
There's an app to backup sms messages in the play store that works with your gmail account. It let's you export.a backup file to your gmail account and you can also see the messages when logged into gmail. Then you can import from your gmail to restore them, it doesn't require root.
App is in the playstore. Contacts and stuff should be synced to your google account, you may want to export a file from the contacts app to the sd card and then copy or to the computer. You do that from the people or contacts app by pressing menu and settings or preferences usually. Exporting as a .vcf file I believe is what its called, then you can use any email program on computer even webmail to import them. If they aren't all on your gmail you need to have them there so when you wipe your phone and then sign into google it will restore them automatically.
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That all makes sense. My contacts are all saved as google contacts anyway and all my emails are also on the computer.

simon12 said:
2 - what is 4ext recovery? I also have heard of 3ext. What are these and what do I do with them?
3 - I downloaded a RUU file earlier (mac version) from a link on these boards which apparently matches my current phone. It's on my computer but I have no idea what to do with it.
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You wipe all the data using recovery (required to flash new ROM's), obviously you also flash ROM's using it.. You can also partition SD, backup current ROM etc.
http://www.4ext.net/get.php?apk (link to recovery, you need S-OFF first)
RUU restores your phone to factory default state.
Trust me it will be easier if instead asking you'll start doing it, and ask if you're stuck on something.

k3lcior said:
You wipe all the data using recovery (required to flash new ROM's), obviously you also flash ROM's using it.. You can also partition SD, backup current ROM etc.
http://www.4ext.net/get.php?apk (link to recovery, you need S-OFF first)
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So do I use alpharev to backup or 4ext? Or can either of them do this? According to this guide (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084) you use alpharev in step 6.
k3lcior said:
Trust me it will be easier if instead asking you'll start doing it, and ask if you're stuck on something.
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I agree totally - just want to clear the path as best as possible before I take the plunge.

Dude, this is 1 of your posts.. just do it.
1 - root the phone
2 - use alpharev to get the phone to S-off
4 - install 4ext recovery
3 - partition the SD card (using recovery)
4 - backup (using recovery)
5 - download and install a custom rom.
Simple as that, you know everything you need i'm gone for now.

Does an Ubunto live cd run on a mac. ?
If so then maybe u can use Revolutioary.io. I dont know just thinking out loud.

colin_404 said:
Does an Ubunto live cd run on a mac. ?
If so then maybe u can use Revolutioary.io. I dont know just thinking out loud.
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was thinking same thing. if we knew the hboot then this could be solved in 5 mins. s-off and rooted
Sent from my HTC Desire

jmcclue said:
was thinking same thing. if we knew the hboot then this could be solved in 5 mins. s-off and rooted
Sent from my HTC Desire
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bravo PVT1 SHIP S-ON
hboot: 0.93.0001
radio: 5.11.05.27
Hope that helps.
Cheers

simon12 said:
bravo PVT1 SHIP S-ON
hboot: 0.93.0001
radio: 5.11.05.27
Hope that helps.
Cheers
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http://revolutionary.io/
go here also check the all things root guide in my sig. basicaly download for windows/mac and fill in the drop down boxes to get ur beta key. plug in ur phone and run the tool u downloaded, paste in the beta key in command window and hit enter, it will also ask do u want to in lstall Clockworkmod recovery? yes. let it finish and u should be s-off then flash superuser zip file in recovery to gain root. Read that guide in my sig first
Sent from my HTC Desire

Yeah, you have good hboot for revolutionary so go for it.
After you're done with S-OFF, go into recovery and flash this package for root access: http://downloads.androidsu.com/superuser/Superuser-3.0.7-efgh-signed.zip
Then just reboot, install 4ext recovery, go into recovery wipe everything (full wipe/dalvik/system/boot), partition SD with 1GB EXT3 or 4, and flash ROM.

Right guys - thanks! (Sorry k3lcior - I'm limited to 8 thanks per day apparently).
I'm think that's my project this evening. Hopefully I won't be on here asking stupid questions if I get all confused but it does seem pretty straightforward when you put it like that.

simon12 said:
(Sorry k3lcior - I'm limited to 8 thanks per day apparently).
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did it for ya lol
Sent from my HTC Desire

[Q] Complete noob humbly asking for help

Hey guys,
I've been around the Defy forum for quite a while now; however, my Desire is back from the dead and now my beloved
Motorola Defy is retired, which means that I'll be getting to know this forum instead!
Right now I have absolutely nothing. Just a TELUS Desire GSM on 2.2 stock froyo. Can someone point me in the right
direction for rooting and S-OFF? Do I need to unlock my bootloader as well for most ROMs?
I have this ROM in mind:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1980122
Everything is pretty straightforward except for a few things:
Someone PLEASE help me, but I'm not going to be demanding or anything. So help me if you can.
1. How the hell did you guys end up with, like, 10 different recoveries and HBOOTs? I've heard CM7R2, stock, Amon RA, among others.
Someone can clarify this?
2. I don't get the partition things at all. For the above ROM what do I need?
3. And just how to root and S-OFF and unlock BL if I need to...
4. A simple procedure for all this maybe?:silly:
5. A simple explanation on how HBOOT and recovery and custom recovery work? On the Defy, we had a 2nd-init and 2nd-boot that basically
launched a custom ROM and kernel on top of stock because the bootloader was locked down. The CWM recovery was accessible from the bootmenu, which was in turn launched by pressing volume-down at the blue LED halfway through boot.
6. Last and not most important does the ROM above (Cooldroid Revolution 9.0) have working Wifi? It says it's "fast, smooth and stable" but...
Thanks so much.

Soooo...
Welcome to the Desire forums.
You should start by ignoring anything that has to do with the Defy. You don't need to unlock the bootloader.
Now, let's start with s-off.
Follow this tutorial Long link, and ignore step 2.
After you're s-off, you should install 4ext recovery. It's the best recovery for the Desire.
In this guide, you will install 4ext, and create an ext partition on your sd-card. The partition is allocated for more internal memory (more apps).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2125513
Read every guide carefully. You will learn a lot.
After you did those things, you can install a custom ROM. I don't recommend you use the one you mentioned as a daily one. It's still a work in progress, and has a lot of bugs.
There are many hboots. When you change hboot, you change the way the internal memory is partitioned.
For example, the cm7r2 hboot has a smaller system allocated space than the stock hboot.
You usually change hboots to get more app space.

Thanks!
But what about root? What tool should I use?
Edit: never mind, I saw the guide link in your signature
I'll get back to you when I'm done rooting. Fingers crossed.

You will root it when you either install a custom rom, or install the supersu zip.

So I read up on some guides that told me to use unrevoked, so I have this reflash_package.exe ready to go. I've uninstalled HTC sync because unrevoked tells me to.
Just one question: I can only use CWM recovery if using unrevoked? That's the default, and only recovery available with it. Can I just download the 4EXTRecoveryUpdater.apk later and change it to 4ext recovery?
If I end up somehow with a ROM that does not boot, how do I fix it? Flash an original RUU?

Why didn't you just listen to me? You don't need unrevoked.
Did you backup before flashing a rom? If you did, then restore it..
Flash another rom, or flash the 2.3 ruu.

abaaaabbbb63 said:
Why didn't you just listen to me? You don't need unrevoked.
Did you backup before flashing a rom? If you did, then restore it..
Flash another rom, or flash the 2.3 ruu.
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I did it! Thank you so much for helping me, despite all my noobiness in this forum.
I'm running Cooldroid Revolution 9.0 now. Again, thanks so much. About 7 hours later after I started reading up
and working with my Desire, I've learned a lot of things about S-OFF and HBOOT and EXT4.
I did a nandroid backup of my original 2.2 ROM before I formatted my SD card and it's backed up on my new
fat32 and my desktop as well. I guess I'm safe for now.
Oh and one more thing, are RUUs like a last-ditch attempt to save your phone? I remember there was a 2.3 RUU upgrade
that came in the form of an .exe and you just needed to plug your phone in, the .exe would do all the upgrading stuff for you.

Yeah. Ruu's are usually the last things that can save your roms.

Even noobier
I am even more of a noob than anyone else I've seen on here.
I am a college student, and I'm considered the best programmer in my class, so I was hired by my school to develop a mobile app for the admissions department. One of my classmates already developed one for apple, but he graduated, so my job is to create one for Android. They are fully aware that mobile app development is not taught here, and none of the people I will be working with knows anything about it either, so it is going to be interesting, to say the least.
My best language is C#, so Java should be no problem, but I am completely at a loss as to where to start. All the app development information I've been able to find is geared toward Ice Cream Sandwich, but I want to make sure my app works on Gingerbread because of its huge market share, plus anything newer.
I've looked at the "beginners" threads on here but I don't understand even half of what people are saying (I speak geek but it's a completely different dialect lol). Is there a resource somewhere where a good C#, Visual Basic, and SQL programmer can teach herself something completely new, and do it right?

Try this guide:
http://developer.android.com/training/index.html

Thanks, I will look into that
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