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How to unroot to stock?

This phone had 2.2.1 when i bought it.
I used 1 click root to root my samsung epic 4g and now i want to unroot it and get it back to its stock settings..
Could anybody help me?"

FPJ said:
This phone had 2.2.1 when i bought it.
I used 1 click root to root my samsung epic 4g and now i want to unroot it and get it back to its stock settings..
Could anybody help me?"
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Many can, but for best purposes, why? You can have a lovely rooted, stock version that I believe they just updated. Otherwise look at qbking's vidoes on Odin/Heimdall to stock. No real reason to, unless you plan to sell or repair it.

When was this update?
And lately i havent been receiving any texts and was worried that it may have something to do with being rooted? idk..
and i know nothing about rooting/unrooting so when the day comes and i have to use my warrenty, id like to know how to unroot it.

FPJ said:
When was this update?
And lately i havent been receiving any texts and was worried that it may have something to do with being rooted? idk..
and i know nothing about rooting/unrooting so when the day comes and i have to use my warrenty, id like to know how to unroot it.
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Check the dev section, but not receiving texts may be an issue way easier than going back to stock. Also, be sure to state anything you've played with that makes you think it could be attached to s/u status. Lots of people will be happy to walk you through a variety of things that won't make you lose all your data.

honestly i love the whole rooted idea. I rooted my phone to use a screenshot app..but i feel like i can do more with it...the thing is..idk how. I wish i can get themes on my phone but everything seems so complicated. I probably wont unroot now...but since we're both here, any ideas on how to add themes to my phone? and maybe even reset to the default theme.

FPJ said:
honestly i love the whole rooted idea. I rooted my phone to use a screenshot app..but i feel like i can do more with it...the thing is..idk how. I wish i can get themes on my phone but everything seems so complicated. I probably wont unroot now...but since we're both here, any ideas on how to add themes to my phone? and maybe even reset to the default theme.
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Did you flash a Rom after you rooted? What instructions did you go by? Be aware, it's 12:33 here and your questions may get differred to everyone else until morning. If you're on certain main Roms, you might be able to easily flash to either a new Rom or theme with little effort. This is where it can get tricky though and retracing your steps out loud will help people walk you to what you need until you get more acclimated to searching and "shopping" for what you what in here. remember your thanks, donations and verbal support, people like to help here

i did nothing after rooting. All i did was use 1 click root and enjoy the apps. I also know nothing about ROM or any other terms :/

FPJ said:
i did nothing after rooting. All i did was use 1 click root and enjoy the apps. I also know nothing about ROM or any other terms :/
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Do you know what version Clockwork you have? (It usually says in the folder name for the one click root)
Sent from my SPH-D700

FPJ said:
i did nothing after rooting. All i did was use 1 click root and enjoy the apps. I also know nothing about ROM or any other terms :/
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Here is a link with instructions on how to unroot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773032
but I don't think you should. There are plenty of good roms that you can use to make your phone better than a stock phone.

FPJ said:
honestly i love the whole rooted idea. I rooted my phone to use a screenshot app..but i feel like i can do more with it...the thing is..idk how. I wish i can get themes on my phone but everything seems so complicated. I probably wont unroot now...but since we're both here, any ideas on how to add themes to my phone? and maybe even reset to the default theme.
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Nothing is complicated about putting ROMs or Themes on your phone Its developing them that is Complicated!
Follow the link in my sig to qbkings videos and you will be wondering why you thought it was complicated to begin with!
And here is a good link to read about all the terms and what not that you have no idea about
Read it and you will know more than you started
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798067

My biggest fear is getting bricked.

FPJ said:
My biggest fear is getting bricked.
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As long as you have a backup of your data on your card, your phone will live on as it did when you last clicked the wrong button. Bricking is everyone's biggest fear, but mostly because it's an inconvenience not a sentence.

The Root said:
As long as you have a backup of your data on your card, your phone will live on as it did when you last clicked the wrong button. Bricking is everyone's biggest fear, but mostly because it's an inconvenience not a sentence.
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The Root is right. The word "brick" is used too much. I can only remember a couple of people actually bricking a phone thus making it useless. 95% of the problems can be fixed with Odin. I didn't know a damn thing 6 months ago. I had to Google "rooting your phone." Now I test ROMs,themes, and kernels for developers. I could never go back to stock now. Rooting really frees the phone to make it your own. Flashing ROM's, themes, and kernels is easy and if you have any questions, there are people like me that are glad to help. Also, qbking makes great videos if you are a visual learner or want to see the process before you do it.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA Premium App

FPJ said:
My biggest fear is getting bricked.
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I agree with JohnCorleone, there have been many times where I thought I had bricked my phone, but there is usually a way to fix any problem. This site is great for finding out answers to your questions. And if you need help with a rom or rooting you can PM me. I'll try to help if I can.

Yeah I actaully bricked.... from vision kernel it sucked but I got a new phone for free haha
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I followed the way to use odin to fryo eb03 release did update to ec05 and still saying I can go from ef10 to ef02. Base band says I am ec05. What up we ca downgrade modem via odin? I even used odin to flash ec05 modem. Still getting message to update.
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[REQUEST] testers for app

Well as the title say I need some testers. I'm developing an app which one for now works with, Galaxy Nexus Maguro, but I need some Toro and Toroplus testers. (Since my nexus is maguro and I can't try it) also if any of you have a SGS3 I will appreciate if you test it as well since it suppose to work with the SGS3.
What you need
Samsung Galaxy Nexus rooted and/or Samsung Galaxy S3 rooted.
What you need to do
Simple, just start the app (App Test) you will see a text that says: ----Notifications---- and under that text other text that says TEST Notification.
1. You need to see a toggle button at the right of the second text.
2. When you turn on the toggle you have to see a notification that says: Notification ONLINE
3. When you turn off the toggle the notification should be clear.
What if I don't see something about the 3 points above?
Post what you see, and tell me what the Toast message says. I will see and try to fix it.
PLEASE POST IF IT WORKS AND IF IT DOESN'T​
App is attached.
Thanks

Rotary Heart said:
Well as the title say I need some testers. I'm developing an app which one for now works with, Galaxy Nexus Maguro, but I need some Toro and Toroplus testers. (Since my nexus is maguro and I can't try it) also if any of you have a SGS3 I will appreciate if you test it as well since it suppose to work with the SGS3.
What you need
Samsung Galaxy Nexus rooted and/or Samsung Galaxy S3 rooted.
What you need to do
Simple, just start the app (App Test) you will see a text that says: ----Notifications---- and under that text other text that says TEST Notification.
1. You need to see a toggle button at the right of the second text.
2. When you turn on the toggle you have to see a notification that says: Notification ONLINE
3. When you turn off the toggle the notification should be clear.
What if I don't see something about the 3 points above?
Post what you see, and tell me what the Toast message says. I will see and try to fix it.
PLEASE POST IF IT WORKS AND IF IT DOESN'T​
App is attached.
Thanks
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You might want to mention what the app does to give people an incentive to download it.

ragnarokx said:
You might want to mention what the app does to give people an incentive to download it.
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Well this one does nothing, just to know if it works. If you download it you will see that it does nothing. I don't think I need it since it just to know if a code works.
But this is one part of a app that I'm developing, which one have so far a few of root tools, but it will include a lot of root tools.

Dont think this thread should be in this development section....needs to be moved to some other section.

It works TOROPLUS.

dakota.breeden said:
It works TOROPLUS.
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Perfect, just what i wanted to read :good:

So basically, you are searching for people to test an app which needs root, access the internet but supposedly does nothing?
Don't count on me to fall in that kind of trap.

nikademus said:
So basically, you are searching for people to test an app which needs root, access the internet but supposedly does nothing?
Don't count on me to fall in that kind of trap.
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lol sorry forgot to eliminate that permission from the test manifest (its from the main app), but whatever you want to think. I'm searching for testers not to write my app since its not out yet.
EDIT: actually where do you get that from? I'm seeing my manifest now and it doesn't have that permission??

Rotary Heart said:
lol sorry forgot to eliminate that permission from the test manifest (its from the main app), but whatever you want to think. I'm searching for testers not to write my app since its not out yet.
EDIT: actually where do you get that from? I'm seeing my manifest now and it doesn't have that permission??
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What is this app intended to do? I don't feel safe giving an app root access without knowing exactly what your intentions behind the app are.

IAmAN00bie said:
What is this app intended to do? I don't feel safe giving an app root access without knowing exactly what your intentions behind the app are.
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wow is amazing how people trust so little in other person... the root access is to read if a file exist... then returns access to the toggle button to see the toast. So if the user don't know the phone info it can give it to me easy so I know in what device it works...

Rotary Heart said:
[...] I'm searching for testers not to write my app since its not out yet.
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wow is amazing how people trust so little in other person... [...]
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well, you don't trust anybody, too!

_hz said:
well, you don't trust anybody, too!
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??? If I doesn't why am I posting it here?

As a developer you should already know that giving root access to an app, of which its purposes are unknown, can be dangerous. The paranoia normal users (like me) have is not unfounded. That being said, I'm not trying to accuse you of anything at all. It's just that slightly more clarification would be appreciated before you ask for someone to install apps that request for root rights.
// edit: Oh, and I'll be available if you need more maguro devices for testing.

OP you do realize that you've posted this in the wrong section.. do you?
There is a whole seperate section for apps/games in xda.
Best Regards.

RagnaParadise said:
As a developer you should already know that giving root access to an app, of which its purposes are unknown, can be dangerous. The paranoia normal users (like me) have is not unfounded. That being said, I'm not trying to accuse you of anything at all. It's just that slightly more clarification would be appreciated before you ask for someone to install apps that request for root rights.
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This... and this post should be in the themes and apps section, why post in the dev section?

Rotary Heart said:
wow is amazing how people trust so little in other person... the root access is to read if a file exist... then returns access to the toggle button to see the toast. So if the user don't know the phone info it can give it to me easy so I know in what device it works...
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I think you have to study some more if you want develop something..btw I have this exe to test, could you please run it on your PC and tell me what you see?
Sent from Vega gnex

Sounds to me like op is trying to start working on something and is requesting testers so can see what works and what doesnt one step at a time instead of finishing the whole thing and having to go back thru a bunch of crap to track down the offending code. Come on guys...help a guy out. Jeez!

Well I'm almost sure that this piece of the code works, just need a toro report.

Thank you all for your feedback, the app can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32856969#post32856969

See guys! Jeez! Give the guy enough flack?
*Step Away From The Toolkit And NoROM Gets Hurt*

GPS Signal Broken -- Fix Found

Hello all,
Long time lurker, just wanted to share an issue I had.
I've flashed nearly every ROM that is out there since I got my SGS3 and have never had any GPS issues, however this weekend I used it without a problem but Tuesday all of a sudden turning it on and off still produced nothing...not even the increased battery drain from having GPS on.
Here's what I did in hopes that it can help someone or at least give some knowledge as there wasn't a lot out there when I searched:
1.) Restored a previous Nandroid that I knew had a working GPS --- Result = FAIL
2.) Searched XDA and Google...found a video with some USSD codes for the dialer, etc.. ---- Result = FAIL
3.) Pulled battery and sim card, etc... --- Result = FAIL
4.) Flashed Wicked as I know that is a stable and highly used ROM. Everything great but still no GPS. ---- Result = FAIL
5.) Found a suggestion about clearing cache in google framework, Maps and uninstalling Maps updates. Result = FAIL
**however Play Store wouldn't let me update Maps when I rebooted as it said it wasn't compatible with my phone. No clue why.
6.) Finally I decided to do Triangle Away and Chainfires unrooting procedure to get back to unrooted stock. ---Result = SUCCESS!
Not sure what about it made GPS come back, however the next step will of course be to root again and see if there are any issues.
Hope this helps someone who ends up in my situation. Feel free to PM if you need more details.
Thanks to all
Edit: Just as an FYI -- when I rooted again, GPS was still back and I've had no issues since.

Thanks man, I like threads like these because you never know when you may need them. Same issue for me. On CM10 ROMs,I have trouble locking onto GPS, and the fix for me has been downloading GPS test and running that before using something like navigation.it's a minor inconvenience but it works great

Overall, if you have something borked, no matter what rom you use... no matter how many times you wipe... odin back to stock, should fix it always.

mt3g said:
Overall, if you have something borked, no matter what rom you use... no matter how many times you wipe... odin back to stock, should fix it always.
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True, but honestly, that doesn't always work. I have a second SGS3 Pebble Blue 32GB, and it won't play nice with Lean Kernel/Ktoonz, unless it's the touchwiz based kernels, whereas my white 16GB runs all of them flawlessly. They were rooted and booted the same way, and they both have the same GPS issue.
Out of curiosity, what's the chainfire way of going back to stock?
Also, do we have any guides here/on youtube that detail how to odin back to stock. I'm gonna give it a go on the blue one again/cross my fingers hoping I made a mistake, hence why I want a guide lol! *Searches*

thanks for the info jpk17!
saved us a lot of time here for whoever has that issue in the future.
can you provide the link to Chainfire's unroot procedure?
thanks!

Good to know but youcould have got straight to the point rather than writting five pages of useless stuff then saying something that to be honest is not any special invention anyways.

lazarat said:
Good to know but youcould have got straight to the point rather than writting five pages of useless stuff then saying something that to be honest is not any special invention anyways.
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Kind of a **** huh? He was just explaining what he did. Geeze.
Sent from my SGS3 Stock Rooted & Odexed
I love this thing!

The only time my gps was ever messed up was when i used a sprint leak JB rom and had the gps turned off. Flashed a couple roms after no gps whatsoever. Odin'ed with 2 or 3 different versions and still couldnt get the gps back.
Finally I flashed another JB rom based on the sprint leak and turned GPS back on and everything started working again. Lesson learned on using sprint leaks lol.

Had op's problem myself before, and full wiping and Odin'ing back to stock actually didn't work.. what did work though was after full unroot, doing tmo ota update.
Who knows, this info could help someone out as well..
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda app-developers app

Unroot Procedure Used
HG! said:
thanks for the info jpk17!
saved us a lot of time here for whoever has that issue in the future.
can you provide the link to Chainfire's unroot procedure?
thanks!
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Here is the procedure I followed to unroot...followed step by step and couldn't have been easier to follow:
I can't post links as I don't have over 10 posts yet, but should be able to figure it out from this:
www . androidrootz . com
Copy the next line after the .com and you'll get to the page.
/2012/10/how-to-unroot-samsung-galaxy-s3-at.html

Mr. Pot ...meet Mr. Kettle
lazarat said:
Good to know but youcould have got straight to the point rather than writting five pages of useless stuff then saying something that to be honest is not any special invention anyways.
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My sincere apologies that my 15 line post was too much to handle.
I'd also like to thank you for such a nice response to a first time poster that was clearly just trying to help the community for an issue that is rare and relatively undocumented based on my searches.
I shall go back to normal... lurking and wading through useless posts like yours to find those with relevance...

jpk17 said:
My sincere apologies that my 15 line post was too much to handle.
I'd also like to thank you for such a nice response to a first time poster that was clearly just trying to help the community for an issue that is rare and relatively undocumented based on my searches.
I shall go back to normal... lurking and wading through useless posts like yours to find those with relevance...
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Just dont get some people....thanks for the steps. But im traveling away from home and only have my MAC and it cant get Bootcamp to work on this one, so my question is, how do i unroot on a mac.
Thanks i advance guys....

jpk17 said:
My sincere apologies that my 15 line post was too much to handle.
I'd also like to thank you for such a nice response to a first time poster that was clearly just trying to help the community for an issue that is rare and relatively undocumented based on my searches.
I shall go back to normal... lurking and wading through useless posts like yours to find those with relevance...
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Dont let this guy discourage you. He's generally an arse to everyone. When i see a pointless **** post from him like you received, just keep reading through Thanks for the thread!

jpk17 said:
My sincere apologies that my 15 line post was too much to handle.
I'd also like to thank you for such a nice response to a first time poster that was clearly just trying to help the community for an issue that is rare and relatively undocumented based on my searches.
I shall go back to normal... lurking and wading through useless posts like yours to find those with relevance...
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Hey man props for the post it'll probably help someone out, assuming they are respectful enough to search and try things before posting. Which I also want to commend you on. Most like to post frantically wanting help before bothering to search or try anything. So gj man
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Confirmed working
This fixed my GPS too. Triangle away and then flash stock NON ROOTED firmware and GPS will come back...NOW hopefully this fixes my weird battery life too. About to root again and shoot right back to PA android and see if it works there. Wish me luck
Edit. Yup it works. Went straight to pa android

osmosizzz said:
This fixed my GPS too. Triangle away and then flash stock NON ROOTED firmware and GPS will come back...NOW hopefully this fixes my weird battery life too. About to root again and shoot right back to PA android and see if it works there. Wish me luck
Edit. Yup it works. Went straight to pa android
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Ok so i finally unrooted using above steps. Still no gps. Tried GPS Toolbox, GPS Test and the google navigation. Nothing.
What Im seeing is that the little Icon in the upper status bar never shows. Like ether it doesnt even see a SAT, or the receiver in my phone isnt even turning on.
If i cant figure out, i guess ill go back to Tmo....
Thanks for the help.

What I did was go to a stock ics based Rom then triangle away and then I followed the site that op posted. The download was ridiculously slow. Took like an hour for 690mb. That should do the trick. Do it in that order
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osmosizzz said:
What I did was go to a stock ics based Rom then triangle away and then I followed the site that op posted. The download was ridiculously slow. Took like an hour for 690mb. That should do the trick. Do it in that order
Sent from my Rooted Gameboy
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HAHA funny, i actually did it EXACTLY like that. I tried a stock ICS ROM from wildchild and nothing. Then Triangle away, ODIN flash to stock with un root and factory reset and nothing.
If i wasnt getting lock, that would be different. But im not getting the little Icon in top left corner.
I have a friend with a Stock Sprint phone and his works in same room.
Thanks

Sucks cordell... Sorry you're not getting it working.
Only thought I had if I followed you correctly is you said you went to a wildchild stock. Maybe you need to go back to the older stock from the link that worked for osmosis and I?
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jpk17 said:
Sucks cordell... Sorry you're not getting it working.
Only thought I had if I followed you correctly is you said you went to a wildchild stock. Maybe you need to go back to the older stock from the link that worked for osmosis and I?
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda premium
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I went to wild child stock just before i unrooted and went to Stock Tmo form the guide above. I didnt think that would have made a difference.
Im not gonna root and go to store, so ill go to store and see what they say.
The reason i went to the wildchild stock based ICS rom was hope that I wouldnt have to unroot....
Thanks.
EDIT>>> Just did the OTA from Tmo and back .. Yes GPS back,
Thanks minigame

[Q] What do I do? Messed Up Stock Rooted Rom.

So I got my phone about a week ago.. I rooted the phone right away because I wanted root options, but honestly, I didn't feel the need to put a rom on it.
With my GS2, I'll be honest, while I noticed many great things with great roms, there was always 1 things that never worked.. Wifi calling,weak gps signal, gps and bluetooth at the same time..
Whatever it was, there was always something..
While the wicked rom looks great, I'm worried about it, so I think I wanna stay stock (unless someone convinces me otherwise )
So, my "What do I do comment" is this.
After I rooted I downloaded someones .apk file that apparently removes bloatware to the stock phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2383951&page=2
14th post.
I'm not sure what was removed, but the bottom line, some things are not working with my phone now.. For example, whenever I try any of the air gestures like air jump/browse/move and so on, they simply don't work anymore, when I go to click try, I get a settings has stopped error.
While I wasn't too worried before, today I went to make a .gif with the camera, and maybe some of you think its cheesy I like that option and feature.. Well, that also gives me an error after I take the 5 second or whatever time, .gif.
I get an error.
So here I am.. wondering what to do, how would I even be able to go back to stock? is it possible ?? Should I man up and go with the wicked rom?? I just feel once you rom that's it, no matter what you're asking for other issues popping up.. While I appreciate all the hard work done by our modders, are they really more talented then the engineers at Samsung?? maybe they are?

You could flash a custom ROM or you could Odin flash a stock tar file to get you back to stock.
Any of the TW base ROM will give you Wi-Fi calling.

Follow this post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42655844&postcount=4

stevessvt said:
Follow this post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42655844&postcount=4
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thanks!!
I was hoping someone would push me towards a rom
If I went with a rom, lets say I don't like it, could I follow that post ??
and go back to stock as if I never did a thing?

You could. Or you could flash a different rom.
Sent from my SGH-M919 using xda app-developers app

stevessvt said:
Follow this post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42655844&postcount=4
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Thanks. I've been posting more times than I can remember, long posts from memory, in response to many in the same situation. Now I'll just post this link
As I always say, but sometime don't practice, K.I.S.S.

thanks all.. Thanks for the link, I just put wicked rom on and so far this rom seems to be trouble free (knocking on wood)
I'll keep this link in mind just "in case"

[Q] To Root or Not to Root: that is the question ;)

First off I am a very experienced modder but what I really want to know is ?
Being in Canada with a Tmobile model will I even get OTA from a different carrier?
When I use Kies to return to factory can I claim for all intents and purposes that it's a 1:1? Or can files, spyware and odd files find there way into areas like preload, efs or other ?
I don't like the look of stock 4.2.2 and miss my cyanogen mod tools...
But Does bluetooth and speaker phone get messed on the s4 with cyanogen mod and all the dev's roms? like it does with SO many other phones ?
And since I pointed that out is there some other weird anomaly that us rooters need be aware of ?
Please respond quick im getting board with stock and your answers could be my freedom :fingers-crossed:
I wont forget to thank those who can help my tough questions..

Yes you can go back to stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2336392
This and many other threads around here with great informations. Just do a search.
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baseballfanz said:
Yes you can go back to stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2336392
This and many other threads around here with great informations. Just do a search.
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Searching can be pointless as many of those questions are unanswered... I wish I could take away points for that answer : Geez

re: questions
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Searching can be pointless as many of those questions are unanswered... I wish I could take away points for that answer : Geez
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Those questions you are referring to which are unanswered are simply yet to be found.
So perhaps it might be a good idea to post a lot of answers instead of so many questions! LOL

Why the heck do they have a Q and A section if people just sit around and tell other people that unanswered questions are a problem :
Wish people would just add info where requested instead of clogging the thread.... GEEZ people simple questions here :
1) IS THERE A BLUETOOTH/SPEAKER PHONE ECHO in MODDED ROMS WITH THE S4 ?
2) will other carriers transmit the OTA upgrades ? Have they in the past ?
3) After root is there a way to insure 1:1 return of all data to EFS, PREBOOT or other areas that would suggest for some unrooted is better...
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Gotta love the answers so far first response don't ask questions search endlessly, and the second is simply don't submit unanswered questions to Q and A !!!!
HAHA
is there a way to delete sloppy posts ?

I can see your going to get lots of help. LMFAO
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baseballfanz said:
I can see your going to get lots of help. LMFAO
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Or in your case a lack there of. Don't you have something better to do than fill threads ?

The s4 phones have good compatibility so far. Except once you start getting into 4.3 roms, for now, wifi glitches occur.
As far as who gets which updates, i dont think anyone knows yet since it's only been 6 months there is no reliable history to tell. I'm sure you'll get some update but it's not going to be timely and it's not going be frequent.. at best ~4 times for the life of the phone. I say fly solo.
About returning the phone, the only thing u have to worry about is the "knox counter" which isn't included in most roms.

faiyo said:
The s4 phones have good compatibility so far. Except once you start getting into 4.3 roms, for now, wifi glitches occur.
As far as who gets which updates, i dont think anyone knows yet since it's only been 6 months there is no reliable history to tell. I'm sure you'll get some update but it's not going to be timely and it's not going be frequent.. at best ~4 times for the life of the phone. I say fly solo.
About returning the phone, the only thing u have to worry about is the "knox counter" which isn't included in most roms.
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Thanks this is really important and informative info here
though maybe I wasn't properly clear on the 2nd question I have this Tmobile phone (live in Canada and use a tiny provider called mobilicity) when the OTA occurs do they push to me or am I SOL anywayz ?
Thanks for taking me seriously and actually answered questions in the QandA section

Ohh and btw what is this Wifi bug like exactly : serious stuff or minor glitch ?

futiless said:
Ohh and btw what is this Wifi bug like exactly : serious stuff or minor glitch ?
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Wifi just doesnt work. Some people did somethings to have some functionality... but it's not something you want to mess with
You should stick with 4.2 for a couple more weeks until tmobile releases 4.3, then it will be really solid.
As far as OTA, i dont really know because i dont use them. And your case is so rare that i think you shouldnt count on it. Why do you want ota anyways you can flash a new stock ota freely. Those are prominently available on here.

faiyo said:
Wifi just doesnt work. Some people did somethings to have some functionality... but it's not something you want to mess with
You should stick with 4.2 for a couple more weeks until tmobile releases 4.3, then it will be really solid.
As far as OTA, i dont really know because i dont use them. And your case is so rare that i think you shouldnt count on it. Why do you want ota anyways you can flash a new stock ota freely. Those are prominently available on here.
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Is this wifi bug on all 4.3 4.4 roms or are there some working ?
That is a MAJOR glitch BTW I don't think I will Root : which brings me to the second answer I want to stay stock because with no 4.3 (with wifi) what incentive is there to even root ?
Can I use Kies to update without the need of a OTA update once available ?

futiless said:
Thanks this is really important and informative info here
though maybe I wasn't properly clear on the 2nd question I have this Tmobile phone (live in Canada and use a tiny provider called mobilicity) when the OTA occurs do they push to me or am I SOL anywayz ?
Thanks for taking me seriously and actually answered questions in the QandA section
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You have to check for the OTA manually through your settings. If you are on a custom rom or kernel, it won't allow you to update. In that case, you simply Odin back to stock and then go into settings and update. This time the OTA will work.
EDIT: Rooting won't cause problems with your WiFi... It's an inherit ROM bug. Stick with 4.2.2 and just root.
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Just root. You can go back to stock and many cm Roms and aokp work perfect. You can always find what's best for you and sounds like you want to root anyways.
4.3 twiz is the only one with WiFi glitch. Aosp is fine....
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The latest cm nightlies seem like a good fit.
Additionally, I know people are having luck with wicked roms in Canada
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Well right now wifi breaks for everyone but 4.3 is coming to us (the usa tmobile customers) in a week, so you will be able to flash it and have working wifi.
Why wouldnt you root? There is no downside even if u dont want to flash roms. You can have root on ur stock rom and do hundreds of new things. Greenify, xposed, wallet, backups, call recording...