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MHL Adapter for Nitro HD

Now for all you Nitro HD users who didn't know that it is possible to stream video through the Micro USB port, well yes you can That port is actually a MHL port (Mobile High-def Link), which combines both Micro USB and HDMI features together, and all you need is a MHL adapter to connect your phone to your HDTV and stream movies while having your phone charged.
Now my question goes to those who know about these things. Any idea which MHL adapter is compatible with this phone, or can we use any adapter from any maker? And also, has anybody tried using the MHL capability on this phone?

Well, one would think it wouldn't be proprietary based on the fact that all MHL enabled phones use this as a standard now. I have used a MHL cable from an HTC Raider on a Galaxy S II and it worked just fine.

Does anyone else hear a slight grinding/grainy noise when you plug in the Micro USB? It always makes me feel like I'm breaking it.

any mhl adapter should work.
i use the mhl adapter from samsung infuse and it works! but remember to plug in power for it to works.

netnerd said:
any mhl adapter should work.
i use the mhl adapter from samsung infuse and it works! but remember to plug in power for it to works.
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plug in power? what do you mean? I thought the whole idea behind mhl is that your phone will get charged via hdmi while streaming through it.

aquariuz23 said:
plug in power? what do you mean? I thought the whole idea behind mhl is that your phone will get charged via hdmi while streaming through it.
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I think if the tv supports mhl mode then you don't need to plug in power.
If tv just has hdmi port then you need to plug in power.
The mhl adapter has microusb port for power input.

netnerd said:
I think if the tv supports mhl mode then you don't need to plug in power.
If tv just has hdmi port then you need to plug in power.
The mhl adapter has microusb port for power input.
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hmmm...interesting. thnx for the heads up

Picked one up myself... streamed a 720p video beautifully.
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i just tested the mhl adapter (from samsung infuse) and stream porno on 42" hdtv, i cant believe i can see so much details clearly! haha

netnerd said:
i just tested the mhl adapter (from samsung infuse) and stream porno on 42" hdtv, i cant believe i can see so much details clearly! haha
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Wow really. LOL. That great.
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akfritz said:
Picked one up myself... streamed a 720p video beautifully.
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Which one and where?

Mine should be arriving on Thursday - just grabbed one of the many off amazon...

So my bro got me an Accell MHL adapter for Christmas and I'm finding it doesn't work with my phone. It doesn't even provide a charge. I'm thinking its physical dimensions are such that the connector into the phone doesn't go in far enough (kinda LG's fault for making the port recessed, kinda their fault for making the connector so damn fat). So, if you guys find one that works for cheap, do you think you could hit us with a link?
TL/DR, Accell's doesn't work, please post ones that do
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Malnilion said:
So my bro got me an Accell MHL adapter for Christmas and I'm finding it doesn't work with my phone. It doesn't even provide a charge. I'm thinking its physical dimensions are such that the connector into the phone doesn't go in far enough (kinda LG's fault for making the port recessed, kinda their fault for making the connector so damn fat). So, if you guys find one that works for cheap, do you think you could hit us with a link?
TL/DR, Accell's doesn't work, please post ones that do
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it needs power for mhl to works. did you try to reboot the phone after you plug in mhl and power input for mhl? i tried on samsung infuse mhl adapter and it works!

Yeah, I provided power and performed every possible sequence of hooking it all up that I could think of and also rebooted several times. I really think it's the form factor of the Accell connector combined with our slightly recessed port that causes it to not go in far enough. I just need someone to give me a suggestion of a brand to buy that they know firsthand works well with our P930.
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See item B0068UML3A at Amazon.com. I received mine today and it works like a charm--and it costs only $8.99.

JGLChilly1 said:
See item B0068UML3A at Amazon.com. I received mine today and it works like a charm--and it costs only $8.99.
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It looks like that item is no longer available. I'm ordering B005NTHXYY, it's $9.19 and Prime eligible.

I can confirm that the MHL adapter that came packaged with the Samsung Infuse works great with the Nitro.
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I wonder if my mhl for gs2 can work with nitro hd

What if tv doesnt support mhl but has hdmi...i can still use it right? But my phone will be discharging the whole time...
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MHL MicroUSB to HDMI Adapter **VIDEO INSIDE

I bought the Samsung MHL adapter through Amazon - Samsung MHL Adapter and I must say this has been of the best inexpensive purchases you buy for your Galaxy Nexus. I decided to make a quick video to show you how great it works, please enjoy!
CLICK HERE TO WATCH VIDEO

The MHL adapter is using full hdmi cable or mini hdmi ?

thanks for the heads up. I may have to get one of these.
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Thanks for the video, it is really cool.
When I had my G2x with micro HDMI out, I bought all kines of cables to plug it into the TV from the comfort of my bed, and I really only used once or twice.
Maybe in the future I'll buy it but I think it will end up in my cable's cabinet.
gogol said:
The MHL adapter is using full hdmi cable or mini hdmi ?
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Full HDMI
10chart

gogol said:
The MHL adapter is using full hdmi cable or mini hdmi ?
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It uses full HDMI

sstang2006 said:
Maybe in the future I'll buy it but I think it will end up in my cable's cabinet.
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I think people who travel or game more will use it. I hook my phone up to hotel rooms to watch Netflix and my dish network programming/dvr. Gamers may want a bigger screen.
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How does this play out with USB host mode in Android?
Do I need another adapter for host mode? Or can I use this one while I also have HDMI out?
http://www.amazon.com/Menotek-Adapt...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1325341220&sr=1-1
This one seems to be "certified" for the Galaxy Nexus and also has a charging port to use while doing HDMI output. Does the Samsung adapter come with this?
I'm most certainly interesred but I want more details before shelling out money, even if it's small money
Edit: Looked at the video and I see the USB port there. Still though, how does this play wtih USB host? Do I even need an adapter for that?

Using the HDMI adapter and playing games with a controller can only be done with a bluetooth controller? Is there any way I can use HDMI and a USB PS3/360 controller?
(using the PS3 wireless is not a option for me i cannot get the app and phone to work together)

josteink said:
How does this play out with USB host mode in Android?
Do I need another adapter for host mode? Or can I use this one while I also have HDMI out?
http://www.amazon.com/Menotek-Adapt...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1325341220&sr=1-1
This one seems to be "certified" for the Galaxy Nexus and also has a charging port to use while doing HDMI output. Does the Samsung adapter come with this?
I'm most certainly interesred but I want more details before shelling out money, even if it's small money
Edit: Looked at the video and I see the USB port there. Still though, how does this play wtih USB host? Do I even need an adapter for that?
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to ppl with questions, i got the official samsung gs2 mhl adapter. its 11$.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/230721222527?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
works wonders. i am 4.0.2 stock.
it uses full hdmi. 1$ on ebay.
it has a charging port, but it shows plugged in as usb charger even when plugged into the wall. it only draws enough power to power keep the charge constant, that is your battery does not go down, nor does it go up. and no, you cannot connect usb host when watching in mhl mode. would have been cool, but doesnt work.
One more thing, apparently THE PHONE HAS TO BE PLUGGED IN FOR THE MHL ADAPTER TO WORK. So, unless you plug in the charger, the mhl adater wont give output.
i hope i answered all questions.

OMG I need me on of these. It's not a Amazon prime item so that mean I have to pay for shipping lol.

nice!
Which program you using for the emulators and to sync to wi mote
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psycho2097 said:
to ppl with questions, i got the official samsung gs2 mhl adapter. its 11$.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/230721222527?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
works wonders. i am 4.0.2 stock.
it uses full hdmi. 1$ on ebay.
it has a charging port, but it shows plugged in as usb charger even when plugged into the wall. it only draws enough power to power keep the charge constant, that is your battery does not go down, nor does it go up. and no, you cannot connect usb host when watching in mhl mode. would have been cool, but doesnt work.
One more thing, apparently THE PHONE HAS TO BE PLUGGED IN FOR THE MHL ADAPTER TO WORK. So, unless you plug in the charger, the mhl adater wont give output.
i hope i answered all questions.
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Wow. So emulator+wifi+bluetooth+mhl= dead phone. 500ma is not enough to keep the GN floating.
Seems like a huge oversight on Google's part or perhaps it's just a MHL limitation. I know data does not work, which is why people have to use BT. But 500ma, what a joke.
Can anyone else confirm this?

Awesome video and post, thanks!!
Does the MHL to HDMI work with Android Movies? I know on my stock Transformer TF101 HDMI out is blocked in Movies. ...worked fine for Netflix and others though.

As far as battery is concerned. Would it be possible to program the screen to turn off when viewing in HDMI and still view it on the TV? seems like this would cut battery consumption dramatically. If not you could set the screen brightness to as low as possible.

Thanks man! Gonna buy this ASAP

MK17 said:
As far as battery is concerned. Would it be possible to program the screen to turn off when viewing in HDMI and still view it on the TV? seems like this would cut battery consumption dramatically. If not you could set the screen brightness to as low as possible.
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Battery drain seems to be corroborated here too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20128751&postcount=36
What a downer.
Great minds think alike though:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20156851&postcount=46
So it looks like the only option is to use some sort of dual charging situation where one charges the MHL adapter and the other charges the phone via pogo.
Perhaps the native HDMI doc allows AC charging? I guess we will have to wait and see.

MHL HDMI Adapter and USB OTG Simultatneously

Has anyone tried using a Micro USB OTG adapter and MHL HDMI adapter at the same time? Is it even possible?
Thinking of watching movies off of an external drive on my HDTV with the GN. I may just have to stream them from my computer over WiFi.
Cheers

cmac86 said:
Has anyone tried using a Micro USB OTG adapter and MHL HDMI adapter at the same time? Is it even possible?
Thinking of watching movies off of an external drive on my HDTV with the GN. I may just have to stream them from my computer over WiFi.
Cheers
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Unfortunately I don't believe its possible. I wish though...
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cmac86 said:
Has anyone tried using a Micro USB OTG adapter and MHL HDMI adapter at the same time? Is it even possible?
Thinking of watching movies off of an external drive on my HDTV with the GN. I may just have to stream them from my computer over WiFi.
Cheers
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Yeah! Is it possible?

I ordered all components yesterday to test this exact thing. I will report back with my findings. I ordered the mhl adapter, HDMI cable, and the otg cable. I already have a micro SD reader that's extremely small. Total cost was $30 on amazon.... I also ordered a wii sensor bar that was around 6 bis. I'm also going to attempt to integrate the otg cable in a case. Pics will follow
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I think that isn't possible. Both MHL and USB OTG uses the same microusb port, but behind that there are different circuits. Depending on wich connector you plug in the hardware will know if you are connecting an usb or a HDMI.
More, the microusb on MHL connector is only for ac supply.

cmac86 said:
Has anyone tried using a Micro USB OTG adapter and MHL HDMI adapter at the same time? Is it even possible?
Thinking of watching movies off of an external drive on my HDTV with the GN. I may just have to stream them from my computer over WiFi.
Cheers
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From what ive read, it is not possible. Youre disabling usb to get hdmi function through 4 wires. And that function needs power.
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Since I'll be using them either way. It doesn't hurt to try.
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MHL and OTG
@justin94, please report back if you get it working. Actually, if you can get OTG to work at all with or without MHL let us know. I've gotten the MHL to work. But I need to connect some USB devices up, and from what I've read, the current Nexus stock firmware doesn't support OTG/Host.
Also, what OTG cable did you order? I've heard there are ones that don't work?

waiting for an answer.

Just got confirmation of shipment the mhl adapter and HDMI cable. No estimated deliver date as of yet. Have patience people.
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justin94 said:
Just got confirmation of shipment the mhl adapter and HDMI cable. No estimated deliver date as of yet. Have patience people.
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NO NAO~! lol. j/k

MHL will only charge the phone via USB. You can't use USB data. Bluetooth is your only option for external hardware input (controllers, etc... but not thumb drives)
I don't want to rain on your parade, but I said it would charge your phone at the same time, but it's limited to 500ma. Nexus reports as USB charging, not AC charging. So if you intend to watch a long movie and game real hard via emulation and bluetooth, your phone will run out of battery.
Another poor design decision. They should have just put a HDMI port separately. MHL fail.
The only saving grace will be using the pogo pins to charge the phone via AC so you can get 1A charging while using MHL.
MHL fail.

Update!!!
Just received the mhl adapter and HDMI cable. Its plug and play, however, it does require power..... so my hopes of getting this to work are almost over..... except that I fairly good with electronics. So I'm going to do some splicing and dicing and see what works.
Don't worry, if it works I will post a full tutorial
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Update bump.
Just got the otg cable. Tested and works with stick mount. Later on tonight I will try to get them working simultaneously
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anxious to know how it works out. I've got the MHL and HDMI. It works but when I pulled the usb power the MHL went lights out so it may only be for power source. but you never know.

kwoolf1 said:
anxious to know how it works out. I've got the MHL and HDMI. It works but when I pulled the usb power the MHL went lights out so it may only be for power source. but you never know.
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Unfortunately from what I understand that's all its for.
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Any news yet?

Sorry everyone. Due to some family issues I have really had time to sit down with array of electronics to try and make this work. Hopefully I can get to it before this weekend
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Justin94,
How do you plan to plug the MHL/HDMI adapter and USB OTG into the the GNex since it has one usb port. This has baffled my mind.

Some type of splitter configuration.
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Juiced Systems 5 in 1 MHL/USB Host/SDHC/MicroSDHC/Micro USB Power Adapter

Greetings!
Juiced Systems 5 in 1 MHL/USB Host/SDHC/MicroSDHC/Micro USB Power Adapter
Is this any good?
http://www.amazon.com/Juiced-Systems-MHL-Adapter-MicroSDHC/dp/B008CQKM2U
Can't find a review anywhere! Has anyone bought one of this wonder tool? :laugh:

That looks amazing! I want one!
Galaxy Nexus CM9

The big question is, will it allow you to use the sdcard and MHL at the same time?

Yeah, that's what i want to know. Can usb host and mhl be used simultaneously?
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jazzaddict said:
Yeah, that's what i want to know. Can usb host and mhl be used simultaneously?
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Most likely not. I have personally tested all combinations of MHL adapter, OTG cable, USB hubs (powered and non), splitters and adapters.
As of right now all signs point to the Micro USB port being a one job at a time thing.
I would love to be suprised, but I'm not buying this to test it. -Sorry

jazzaddict said:
Yeah, that's what i want to know. Can usb host and mhl be used simultaneously?
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I don't think so. See under technical details:
Smart Switch Between MHL and Host Mode
But it would be great if it could work. Anyone willing to test?
greetings
Matthias

I will be getting this product so just keep an eye out for my review on this forum.

Anyone got a chance to test this with the nexus 7 yet ?

Doesn't look like this San be used with regular non mhl TVs cause there is nowhere to plug in power to this thing
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I recently just ordered this MHL works flawlessly. As for USB host I am still waiting for my flash drives to come in.
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kaotikking said:
I recently just ordered this MHL works flawlessly. As for USB host I am still waiting for my flash drives to come in.
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Awesome! Please let us know if usb host and mhl be used simultaneously. a video review would be great!

I bought one. I ended up with a defective unit (detailed below), but the defect only seems to be mechanical with the button and not with the electronics. The seller is sending me another so I will let you know how that goes.
Anyway, my initial impression is "meh". Here is the "executive summary":
1. USB host cannot be used at the same time as MHL.
2. In fact, USB host cannot be used at all when the power is plugged in.
My experience with the unit:
1. There is a button on the front that lights up based on what "mode" the unit is in. Blue for USB host and green for MHL. There is a red mode, too, but I only saw it once and haven't been able to get back to it yet.
2. Like I said, the plastic part of the button broke the first time I pushed it. Since the seller said he would send me another, I tore the unit apart and discovered that there wasn't enough glue keeping the button in place.
3. I can't really tell exactly what the button is supposed to do. When I first plug it in to my phone without the power plugged in, I have to press the button to get my phone to recognize it. Once the unit is recognized then it goes into USB host mode and the button starts glowing blue. Nothing seems to happen if I press the button again.
4. As soon as I plug in the power (or I plugged in the unit with the power already plugged in) then the unit automatically goes to MHL mode and the button glows green. If I had an sd card plugged in and mounted when I plugged in the power, then the card is forcibly unmounted when the unit goes into MHL mode.
5. I assume #4 goes for any other USB-connected peripherials as I didn't try a micro sd or a memory stick.
I will be posting this to Amazon once I get time....
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40$???????? lol i bought this beauty from ebay hongkong seller for 9$...!! pretty sweetly made too!

psycho2097 said:
40$???????? lol i bought this beauty from ebay hongkong seller for 9$...!! pretty sweetly made too!
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linky linky?
Edit: nevermind found it, and you usb host and charge at the same time?

Can you post a link. I found one that was a multi card reader but no that one you have in hand. For the Nexu 7.

Legacystar said:
Doesn't look like this San be used with regular non mhl TVs cause there is nowhere to plug in power to this thing
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yes there is
this is the micro usb port
this micro usb port is for bringing power to the guest devices
I have a similar one without MHL and this is what it does
one regret on the one I have is that it doesn't act has a HUB, so you can't plug a sd and a micro sd at the same time and transfer data between them
is it the same with this device ?

I was thinking buying this unit. (Right now it's 37 USD)
But, does this product works with other phones? Like Nexus 4, Galaxy SII and SIII or Galaxy Note I or II?
I want to keep it when I sell my Galaxy Nexus...!
Or is it better to buy two cables, one MHL and other USB OTG? (Both will make around 16 USD)

MHL - AC vs USB Charging

Hey guys,
Bought a used HTC One due to BT connectivity problems with my SG4.
I have a requirement to use MHL daily and need an adapter that will allow "AC" chargiing mode. I am using the same charger as I did with my SG4 that did provide enough to actually charge the phone while using MHL.
The same usb charger running through my current MHL 1,0 adapter into my HTC one, will only put the phone into "USB" charging mode. This is not adequate and will probably force me to sell the phone off.
Here's the MHL adapter I am using:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005F9W6DU/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Do you guys know of a MHL adapter for our phones that will allow AC charging mode?

I don't use mhl but a kernel that supports fast charging comes to mind.
Sent from my HTC6500LVW

tsitalon1 said:
Hey guys,
Bought a used HTC One due to BT connectivity problems with my SG4.
I have a requirement to use MHL daily and need an adapter that will allow "AC" chargiing mode. I am using the same charger as I did with my SG4 that did provide enough to actually charge the phone while using MHL.
The same usb charger running through my current MHL 1,0 adapter into my HTC one, will only put the phone into "USB" charging mode. This is not adequate and will probably force me to sell the phone off.
Here's the MHL adapter I am using:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005F9W6DU/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Do you guys know of a MHL adapter for our phones that will allow AC charging mode?
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It can't do both.

Chilidog said:
It can't do both.
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Interesting - the SG4 can!

tsitalon1 said:
Interesting - the SG4 can!
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What do u need mhl for anyways?

I have the rocket fish mhl cable. I have hooked it up to my tv to watch NFL Mobile plenty of times. I plug my phone AC wall charger into the MHL cable as well to keep the phone charged, however, the phones battery life does not increase. So say, my battery is at 75% and I plug my mhl cable into my phone into the tv and my 1 amp power charger from my wall into my mhl cable to charge my phone, even though I get the charge status, two hours later, three hours later, my phone is still hovering around 75%. I hear it takes a lot of power to run mhl cables from the htc one to a tv. I hope I helped you with any information that I provided.

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Actually, some MHL adapters can charge the phone and do HDMI. Mine does.
I have a cheapo Samsung one.
Unless OP is referring to something different?