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HDMI OUT ADAPTER or NOT?

Has anyone tested if this phone has an HDMI OUT to TV function? If so, what adapter did you have to buy? Thank you.

It has hdmi out via an mhl adapter

Sure does.

http://www.amazon.com/Fosmon-HDMI-M...0Z9Q/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1323035404&sr=8-2
This is by far much cheaper than a MHL adapter. What sucks is that I can't charge at the same time. What to do what to do..

FastMhz said:
http://www.amazon.com/Fosmon-HDMI-M...0Z9Q/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1323035404&sr=8-2
This is by far much cheaper than a MHL adapter. What sucks is that I can't charge at the same time. What to do what to do..
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Is't that a Micro HDMI, rather than Micro USB??? Don't think it will work, I use one of these on my Xoom (which does have a Micro HDMI out), not the same with the Nexus.
I'm using the Samsung MHL cable (same one used for the SGS2), works great.

FastMhz said:
http://www.amazon.com/Fosmon-HDMI-M...0Z9Q/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1323035404&sr=8-2
This is by far much cheaper than a MHL adapter. What sucks is that I can't charge at the same time. What to do what to do..
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What do you plan doing with that cable? It doesn't fit anywhere on your GN...
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FastMhz said:
http://www.amazon.com/Fosmon-HDMI-M...0Z9Q/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1323035404&sr=8-2
This is by far much cheaper than a MHL adapter. What sucks is that I can't charge at the same time. What to do what to do..
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The MHL adapters have side ports that allow USB charging while it is plugged in.

Related to this topic;
I am having mixed experiences with MHL to HDMI...
Sometimes when I plug it in, it works fine, immediately.
Other times, I have to turn off the TV, then turn it on, and fiddle around, experimenting with the connection order, until it eventually works.
Very temperamental and annoying (especially as I am using this at work, in front of groups of people).
Anybody else been having experiences like this?
Also, I found out through trial and error, that the phone will not connect to the MHL/HDMI unless the battery is over 70% charged.
Would like to read your experiences with this.
Cheers.

MHL MicroUSB to HDMI Adapter **VIDEO INSIDE

I bought the Samsung MHL adapter through Amazon - Samsung MHL Adapter and I must say this has been of the best inexpensive purchases you buy for your Galaxy Nexus. I decided to make a quick video to show you how great it works, please enjoy!
CLICK HERE TO WATCH VIDEO

The MHL adapter is using full hdmi cable or mini hdmi ?

thanks for the heads up. I may have to get one of these.
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Thanks for the video, it is really cool.
When I had my G2x with micro HDMI out, I bought all kines of cables to plug it into the TV from the comfort of my bed, and I really only used once or twice.
Maybe in the future I'll buy it but I think it will end up in my cable's cabinet.
gogol said:
The MHL adapter is using full hdmi cable or mini hdmi ?
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Full HDMI
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gogol said:
The MHL adapter is using full hdmi cable or mini hdmi ?
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It uses full HDMI

sstang2006 said:
Maybe in the future I'll buy it but I think it will end up in my cable's cabinet.
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I think people who travel or game more will use it. I hook my phone up to hotel rooms to watch Netflix and my dish network programming/dvr. Gamers may want a bigger screen.
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How does this play out with USB host mode in Android?
Do I need another adapter for host mode? Or can I use this one while I also have HDMI out?
http://www.amazon.com/Menotek-Adapt...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1325341220&sr=1-1
This one seems to be "certified" for the Galaxy Nexus and also has a charging port to use while doing HDMI output. Does the Samsung adapter come with this?
I'm most certainly interesred but I want more details before shelling out money, even if it's small money
Edit: Looked at the video and I see the USB port there. Still though, how does this play wtih USB host? Do I even need an adapter for that?

Using the HDMI adapter and playing games with a controller can only be done with a bluetooth controller? Is there any way I can use HDMI and a USB PS3/360 controller?
(using the PS3 wireless is not a option for me i cannot get the app and phone to work together)

josteink said:
How does this play out with USB host mode in Android?
Do I need another adapter for host mode? Or can I use this one while I also have HDMI out?
http://www.amazon.com/Menotek-Adapt...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1325341220&sr=1-1
This one seems to be "certified" for the Galaxy Nexus and also has a charging port to use while doing HDMI output. Does the Samsung adapter come with this?
I'm most certainly interesred but I want more details before shelling out money, even if it's small money
Edit: Looked at the video and I see the USB port there. Still though, how does this play wtih USB host? Do I even need an adapter for that?
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to ppl with questions, i got the official samsung gs2 mhl adapter. its 11$.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/230721222527?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
works wonders. i am 4.0.2 stock.
it uses full hdmi. 1$ on ebay.
it has a charging port, but it shows plugged in as usb charger even when plugged into the wall. it only draws enough power to power keep the charge constant, that is your battery does not go down, nor does it go up. and no, you cannot connect usb host when watching in mhl mode. would have been cool, but doesnt work.
One more thing, apparently THE PHONE HAS TO BE PLUGGED IN FOR THE MHL ADAPTER TO WORK. So, unless you plug in the charger, the mhl adater wont give output.
i hope i answered all questions.

OMG I need me on of these. It's not a Amazon prime item so that mean I have to pay for shipping lol.

nice!
Which program you using for the emulators and to sync to wi mote
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psycho2097 said:
to ppl with questions, i got the official samsung gs2 mhl adapter. its 11$.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/230721222527?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
works wonders. i am 4.0.2 stock.
it uses full hdmi. 1$ on ebay.
it has a charging port, but it shows plugged in as usb charger even when plugged into the wall. it only draws enough power to power keep the charge constant, that is your battery does not go down, nor does it go up. and no, you cannot connect usb host when watching in mhl mode. would have been cool, but doesnt work.
One more thing, apparently THE PHONE HAS TO BE PLUGGED IN FOR THE MHL ADAPTER TO WORK. So, unless you plug in the charger, the mhl adater wont give output.
i hope i answered all questions.
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Wow. So emulator+wifi+bluetooth+mhl= dead phone. 500ma is not enough to keep the GN floating.
Seems like a huge oversight on Google's part or perhaps it's just a MHL limitation. I know data does not work, which is why people have to use BT. But 500ma, what a joke.
Can anyone else confirm this?

Awesome video and post, thanks!!
Does the MHL to HDMI work with Android Movies? I know on my stock Transformer TF101 HDMI out is blocked in Movies. ...worked fine for Netflix and others though.

As far as battery is concerned. Would it be possible to program the screen to turn off when viewing in HDMI and still view it on the TV? seems like this would cut battery consumption dramatically. If not you could set the screen brightness to as low as possible.

Thanks man! Gonna buy this ASAP

MK17 said:
As far as battery is concerned. Would it be possible to program the screen to turn off when viewing in HDMI and still view it on the TV? seems like this would cut battery consumption dramatically. If not you could set the screen brightness to as low as possible.
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Battery drain seems to be corroborated here too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20128751&postcount=36
What a downer.
Great minds think alike though:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20156851&postcount=46
So it looks like the only option is to use some sort of dual charging situation where one charges the MHL adapter and the other charges the phone via pogo.
Perhaps the native HDMI doc allows AC charging? I guess we will have to wait and see.

modding Atrix lapdock to charge other phones?

Ive since moved on from the atrix but kept the lapdock to see if i can use it for a hdmi monitor and charger. I now have the galaxy nexus and wanted try and use the lapdock with it. Im going to order the MHL adapter for the galaxy nexus to connect to the lapdock's hdmi with a female micro hdmi adapter. Ive read that the lapdock can receive HDMI input from other sources besides the atrix but will the lapdock accept HDMI source from a MHL adapter. Another problem is that in order for the Samsung MHL adapter to work it needs to be plugged in to a micro usb power source. I need to be able to use the micro usb from the lapdock if i want this set up to be portable.
i bought a micro usb extension and tried that but it doesnt charge galaxy nexus or Optimus P500. Unfortunately i sold my atrix before i got the cable so i cant test it with that but the micro usb extension charges all my phones fine when plugged into an AC adapter. So is it possible to mod the lapdock or micro hdmi cable to charge my other phones?

I can't speak for different phones made by different manufacturers (samsung, etc), but the atrix lapdock can be modified to work with other motorola weptop enabled phones. I am typing this on an atrix lapdock plugged into my Droid 4. I had to modify it when i bought it in order for it to work, but it was a simple 10 min job and it has been working well!
All I had to do was unscrew the cover of the hdmi/microusb ports, and flip over the connectors that were upside down for my use, and put it back together. A bit of shaving the plastic in the corners was necessary, but was not difficult. I am a happy user since this keyboard is a bit larger than the lapdock 100, and it was cheaper on craigslist than a lapdock 100.
Now I just need to see if anybody has managed to find any happy ways to hack/modify the atrix lapdock for greater functionality, like multitouch or scroll areas. If you have happened to see someone getting this to work, please do tell!

neotekz said:
Ive read that the lapdock can receive HDMI input from other sources besides the atrix but will the lapdock accept HDMI source from a MHL adapter.
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should work just fine!
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Another problem is that in order for the Samsung MHL adapter to work it needs to be plugged in to a micro usb power source. I need to be able to use the micro usb from the lapdock if i want this set up to be portable.
i bought a micro usb extension and tried that but it doesnt charge galaxy nexus or Optimus P500. Unfortunately i sold my atrix before i got the cable so i cant test it with that but the micro usb extension charges all my phones fine when plugged into an AC adapter. So is it possible to mod the lapdock or micro hdmi cable to charge my other phones?
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no need to mod!!! there are two powered usb ports on the back of the unit. when it senses hdmi, it turns on the usb ports and you can charge or power your usb device assuming 500ma is enough. not sure what it outputs, but it does charge a phone.

Where i can buy the lapdock charger?
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phire420 said:
should work just fine!
no need to mod!!! there are two powered usb ports on the back of the unit. when it senses hdmi, it turns on the usb ports and you can charge or power your usb device assuming 500ma is enough. not sure what it outputs, but it does charge a phone.
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USB 2.0 = 500mA max.
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Does the SGS3 MHL Adapter require external power source?

Hello, I've read that you don't need an external power source for the MHL adapter for the SGS3 (http://www.galaxymhl.com/):
Samsung’s Galaxy S III can power the MHL-HDMI adapter. Although this can theoretically also be done with the standard 5-pin micro-USB connector, the Galaxy S III is believed to be the first smartphone that supports this functionality.
Can anyone confirm that this is true?

Why would you want the S3 to power it? Your phone will die in no time. If you have a TV that will support MHL, it will charge your phone. If not, you need to have the adapter plugged into a power source.
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g2tegg said:
Why would you want the S3 to power it? Your phone will die in no time. If you have a TV that will support MHL, it will charge your phone. If not, you need to have the adapter plugged into a power source.
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I dont see what the big deal over a phone powered MHL cable would be, I personally would like to have one do it.
I use HDMI on my Atrix 2 and I can easily watch 2 pornos without plugging and power into phone.

g2tegg said:
Why would you want the S3 to power it? Your phone will die in no time. If you have a TV that will support MHL, it will charge your phone. If not, you need to have the adapter plugged into a power source.
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thanks for the concern.
Now, can anyone help me with my question?

andy2na said:
thanks for the concern.
Now, can anyone help me with my question?
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I have the Samsung MHL adapter. I need to have it plugged in to work. Yes it needs power. I plug the S3 to my Yamaha AV unit since I have an HDMI port in the front and plug the other end into the USB port right beside it. Good thing since my wall plug is a good distance away

Dx9 said:
I have the Samsung MHL adapter. I need to have it plugged in to work. Yes it needs power. I plug the S3 to my Yamaha AV unit since I have an HDMI port in the front and plug the other end into the USB port right beside it. Good thing since my wall plug is a good distance away
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Thanks for your answer. Yeah, the issue is that the power outlet is a ways off :/

btw, the nexus 4 has Slimport instead of MHL
http://www.slimportconnect.com/
There are definite power perks for people choosing SlimPort. By using a standard micro-USB cable to display your content, you’ll be charging your mobile device’s battery. And even if you don’t have a power cable handy, SlimPort draws very little power from your device for overall low power consumption.
so it seems the main difference is that slimport doesnt require power and supports VGA, DVI, displayport, or HDMI

HDMI adapter compatible with SM-600 model?

Hi all, new user for galaxy note 10.1 2014 version.. thanks for the threads, very useful info..
As I have trouble finding the Samsung compatible adapter through amazon or ebay in the UK, should I assume that any 11 pin HDMI adapter is compatible? should I look for adapter for Galaxy note 3 or the Galaxy S3?
Thanks a lot!!

Look for the mhl 2.0 adapter from samsung. It's branded "for galaxy s4/s5". Just make sure it's mhl 2.0. I have it and it works very good, outputs 1080p/60fps and it works without connecting power.
looks like this: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ET-H10FAUWESTA

Thanks for the prompt response Clouds5..
I have trouble finding that specific adapter you posted.. even Samsung has run out ..
However, I find many cables with s/n ET-H10FAUWEGWW... The one you have posted is the ET-H10FAUWEGUJ.. Should I assume that these adapter are the same? I am in the uk, maybe this is s/n for the international market? Essentially anything in the ET-H10FAU family is the same, provided of course that it is branded as MHL 2.0 adapter and suitable for galaxy S4/5 as you point out?
Thanks..

achileus1 said:
Thanks for the prompt response Clouds5..
I have trouble finding that specific adapter you posted.. even Samsung has run out ..
However, I find many cables with s/n ET-H10FAUWEGWW... The one you have posted is the ET-H10FAUWEGUJ.. Should I assume that these adapter are the same? I am in the uk, maybe this is s/n for the international market? Essentially anything in the ET-H10FAU family is the same, provided of course that it is branded as MHL 2.0 adapter and suitable for galaxy S4/5 as you point out?
Thanks..
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Look at Amazon.uk for Samsung MHL 2.0 and pick a geniune one. Alot of fakes around and read the comments. Reak MHL 2.0 dont need power source and fakes ones needs.
ex might be real: (read comments)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-ET-...d=1397297202&sr=8-63&keywords=Samsung+MHL+2.0
Might be fake: (read comments, delivered from China = mostlty fakes)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Genuine-Sam...id=1397297537&sr=8-2&keywords=Samsung+MHL+2.0
I did bought a cheap MHL 2.0 from ebay, seller was from China and it did works for a while. It also needed powersource to work, after a while and aspect ratio become weird. So it was a fake one for 6 US only.
Decide to buy new one from mine country and it didnt needed any powersource connected to MHL 2.0 adapter. It was cheap, just 20 bucks deal back then and also described for Galaxy S5, even back then S5 wasnt even announced and lucky it was genuine from Samsung.
Real and fake have different weights too. There is a thread about real vs fakes MHL 2.0.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2412756
The fake from ebay I bought was indeed around 26 gram and real one with 20 bucks deal weights 42 gram.

Thank you dt33.. I have just ordered the adapter you pointed out - I had it already in my Amazon basket assuming that it is a genuine one..
I also read the thread about genuine/fakes.. looks like that unless it comes directly from Samsung, then it is a gamble..
I will test it, weight it and report back with the s/n.. hopefully it will help someone facing the same problem.
Thanks,
Achilleas

I bought this one per recommendation of another XDA user. Works as it should for now.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331104244157?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

All good
To complete the thread and potentially help future buyers from the UK....
I bought the Samsung ET-H10FAUWESTA which turned out to be the ET-H10FAUWEGWW... bottomline: all the genuine variations of the ET-H10FAU cable seems to work for our model.. and no need to be plugged in so all good..
Thanks all for the help.
Achilleas

Does it charge the tablet while HDMI out is using?

burningstep said:
Does it charge the tablet while HDMI out is using?
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the HDMI cable works without the wall plug.. just with the tablet's power..
if you use the wall plug then it will charge the tablet while the HDMI is used...Is this what you are asking?

Could you verify?
achileus1 said:
the HDMI cable works without the wall plug.. just with the tablet's power..
if you use the wall plug then it will charge the tablet while the HDMI is used...Is this what you are asking?
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I have trying to find one that will charge the tablet at the same time you have the tablet connected to a monitor though an HDMI cable. Does the tablet (specifically, the Note 10.1 2014) show that it is in the charging mode when you are using this adapter with the wall plug? Thanks!

tamuin said:
I have trying to find one that will charge the tablet at the same time you have the tablet connected to a monitor though an HDMI cable. Does the tablet (specifically, the Note 10.1 2014) show that it is in the charging mode when you are using this adapter with the wall plug? Thanks!
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I have a HDMI adapter for my N7000 which I also use for my SM P-605 and it works just fine but does not charge my tablet while connected to my TV. After the kitkat update, (surprise! surprise!) it just decided to charge my tablet while connected to my TV.So probably it's a kernel thing.

tamuin said:
I have trying to find one that will charge the tablet at the same time you have the tablet connected to a monitor though an HDMI cable. Does the tablet (specifically, the Note 10.1 2014) show that it is in the charging mode when you are using this adapter with the wall plug? Thanks!
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yes, i can confirm that tablet charges when i am using this adapter with the wall plug. ...and i run the version 4.3

charging through hdmi cable?
wannajump said:
I have a HDMI adapter for my N7000 which I also use for my SM P-605 and it works just fine but does not charge my tablet while connected to my TV. After the kitkat update, (surprise! surprise!) it just decided to charge my tablet while connected to my TV.So probably it's a kernel thing.
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Wait a second here. Are you saying that your tablet charges only through the mhl connector without being connected to the wall plug? If this is the case, it receives power through the hdmi cable?! This is really strange. I didn't know hdmi could offer the needed current for our tablet to charge!!! To be sincere I don't think this actually works. You probably need the wall plug to be connected to the mhl for it to actually charge the tablet.

BogdanDorianC said:
Wait a second here. Are you saying that your tablet charges only through the mhl connector without being connected to the wall plug? If this is the case, it receives power through the hdmi cable?! This is really strange. I didn't know hdmi could offer the needed current for our tablet to charge!!! To be sincere I don't think this actually works. You probably need the wall plug to be connected to the mhl for it to actually charge the tablet.
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It's connected to a wall plug of course, but before kitkat even with the " wall plug" connected it doesn't charges and now it does.

achileus1 said:
the HDMI cable works without the wall plug.. just with the tablet's power..
if you use the wall plug then it will charge the tablet while the HDMI is used...Is this what you are asking?
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Exactly, thank you very much