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unlocked TP2 that works with AT&T's 3G bands???

hey guys
I was wondering if there is anyone that has bought an unlocked TP2, and who has AT&T, could tell me if the unlocked version of the phone works with AT&T's 3G bands. I've been asking this question all around the rhodium forums, and I've been getting some very convincing answers, but I really need to hear it from someone who has actually purchased the phone and who has AT&T in the U.S.
and also, does anyone know if there is any form of warranty or insurance offered when you buy an unlocked phone?? that's one of my major needs, just in case something unexpected happens. If there isn't then I'm gonna have to wait until AT&T releases their "customized" version of the TP2. with all of AT&T's design flaws.
thanks!!

i dont believe so if i remember correctly it does not have 850 and 1900 band for highspeed...you would only get edge connection and make calls.

TP2 For USA?
I have also been looking high and low, I have located a decent website that really sets me at ease as a buyer the TP2 is not here yet, but it is still early- either way, the FAQ really set me at ease, I am planning my Tp2 to be purchased from them- not only is there an option to assure connectivity in the US on all levels of at&t'S network, but the freq's upon which the phone one purchases are listed on the site- AT&T to my understanding is on 850 & 1900 mhz- which is clearly displayed here- not only that, but here is a "compatibility" chart where one can actually select the network of any proposed purchase-
http://www.cellhut.com
Like I said, the FAQ really made me feel at ease- plus they offer an additional warranty along with the manufacturer's (for purchase)-
that is the plan, I will definitely post any positive results- It is tempting to just buy a new TyTNII sans the AT&T crap, plus the front camera, instead of waiting for the TP2...

snormansell said:
I have also been looking high and low, I have located a decent website that really sets me at ease as a buyer the TP2 is not here yet, but it is still early- either way, the FAQ really set me at ease, I am planning my Tp2 to be purchased from them- not only is there an option to assure connectivity in the US on all levels of at&t'S network, but the freq's upon which the phone one purchases are listed on the site- AT&T to my understanding is on 850 & 1900 mhz- which is clearly displayed here- not only that, but here is a "compatibility" chart where one can actually select the network of any proposed purchase-
http://www.cellhut.com
Like I said, the FAQ really made me feel at ease- plus they offer an additional warranty along with the manufacturer's (for purchase)-
that is the plan, I will definitely post any positive results- It is tempting to just buy a new TyTNII sans the AT&T crap, plus the front camera, instead of waiting for the TP2...
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yes please let me know how your purchase goes. how sure are you that this site is legit? i'm worried about buying an unlocked TP2 and finding out that the website is a scam nd that i just lost out on 500+ of hard-earned money. i'll check it out tho

snormansell said:
I have also been looking high and low, I have located a decent website that really sets me at ease as a buyer the TP2 is not here yet, but it is still early- either way, the FAQ really set me at ease, I am planning my Tp2 to be purchased from them- not only is there an option to assure connectivity in the US on all levels of at&t'S network, but the freq's upon which the phone one purchases are listed on the site- AT&T to my understanding is on 850 & 1900 mhz- which is clearly displayed here- not only that, but here is a "compatibility" chart where one can actually select the network of any proposed purchase-
http://www.cellhut.com
Like I said, the FAQ really made me feel at ease- plus they offer an additional warranty along with the manufacturer's (for purchase)-
that is the plan, I will definitely post any positive results- It is tempting to just buy a new TyTNII sans the AT&T crap, plus the front camera, instead of waiting for the TP2...
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Sorry to disappoint you but the best option is to wait for the AT&T release. Here's why:
Starting with the Touch Diamond and the Touch Pro, HTC released a European model which does not contain AT&T 3G bands and is only useable on the EDGE network which is much slower. Correct me if I am wrong, but I think the only brand new factory unlocked versions have been the European or Asian models. The price is also much higher for an unbranded unlocked phone. All indications are that they will be doing the same thing with the Touch Pro2. The following is the specs on the TP2 straight from HTC's European website: Here's the link.
NetworkHSPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
Up to 2 Mbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
Europe/Asia: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
(Band frequency, HSPA availability, and data speed are operator dependent.)
You can see that HSPA (3G) is only supported at 900/2100. AT&T uses 850/1900 for 3G. I made the mistake of purchasing the HTC Touch Pro from Europe then had to sell it for a $400 loss on eBay and purchase the AT&T Fuze from an AT&T store.
Typically, HTC releases their new devices in Europe and Asia 1-2 months prior to a US release. It may be torture to have to sit and wait on it while your friends across the pond are already flashing new ROMs to their new shiny phone, but you'll be much better off.

really? there is another thread on the rhodium forum titled "unbranded touch pro 2" and the thread starter posted a link from infosync.com saying that HTC is planning to release a version of the TP2 in the summer that will be compatible with AT&T's 3G bands. how true is that? i hope its true! im getting really anxious and impatient!

poppinpengawen said:
really? there is another thread on the rhodium forum titled "unbranded touch pro 2" and the thread starter posted a link from infosync.com saying that HTC is planning to release a version of the TP2 in the summer that will be compatible with AT&T's 3G bands. how true is that? i hope its true! im getting really anxious and impatient!
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Yes, I read that after I made my post above. That is great news since I don't think I am going to like AT&T's modifications. I am not eligible for an upgrade yet anyway since I bought the Fuze not that long ago. I wonder if it will be released at the same time as the Europe/Asia models.
I can't find the TP2 on cellhut.com. They must have taken it off their site. I certainly wouldn't trust a dealer that I am not familiar with and hasn't been vouched for on this forum.

don't you think the reason it's not on the site is because it's not out yet? I was actually thinking about just buying it straight from HTC, but the one thing I need to be sure of is if it will support AT&T's 3G bands.
so none of the TP2s being sold on expansys or any of the other sites that are offering them will support U.S. 3G?

poppinpengawen said:
don't you think the reason it's not on the site is because it's not out yet? I was actually thinking about just buying it straight from HTC, but the one thing I need to be sure of is if it will support AT&T's 3G bands.
so none of the TP2s being sold on expansys or any of the other sites that are offering them will support U.S. 3G?
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Expansys has the UK model listed. They will probably sell the US unlocked version as well, but I would never buy from them again. They lie about items being in stock and I have never received anything from them quickly. When I've purchased from overseas in the past I have used Clove who have always been honest about stock and are very fast shippers. Hopefully newegg.com will have it. They sell some other unlocked HTC phones.

so once those sites start selling the US unlocked TP2, we can buy it from there and they'll work with the US 3G bands right? we just have to wait until the unlocked ones are available online?

Hey everybody,
I actually emailed HTC-America ([email protected]) and I asked them if the Unlocked-US version of the TP2 would support 3G networks. I said that they confirmed on their twitter feed that it would be coming to the US, so I was rightly wondering whether an Unlocked-US version would support our weird 3G frequencies.
I think there was a misunderstanding because they said that the HTC twitter feed was in no way run or affiliated with HTC, which doesn't make sense because ON the TP2's product overview page, they actually link to their Facebook, YouTube, and TWITTER accounts.
So I emailed them back saying that of course they have to run that twitter feed, and asked them the question again, but they probably won't get back to me until Monday at least. I'll keep everybody updated on the responses I get, as I, and many others, would REALLY hate to buy another AT&T subsidized model of anything.
Dave

thank man that's good. that doesn't make any sense tho! how can they say that they're not affiliated with the HTC twitter feed? that's stupid lol. keep us updated bro!!!

poppinpengawen said:
so once those sites start selling the US unlocked TP2, we can buy it from there and they'll work with the US 3G bands right? we just have to wait until the unlocked ones are available online?
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I mention Clove in case you ever plan to buy from the UK. Quite positive they won't be selling the US version anyway. If there is a US unlocked version look for it to say UMTS or HSPA with the bands 850/1900. For GSM it will be quad-band and work most places in the world. Of course, online retailers sometimes make mistakes in their listings so you may want to confirm it by contacting the company you purchase from, or even better wait for someone who bought one to post their results in this forum.

I got the reply from HTC today, and it was a kind of mixed answer. The reply to my last email I sent was this:
... I understand how important it is to have the full information for upcoming products. Until there is information for this product available on HTC's United States web page, then we would not be able to confirm the specs for an American release of this device ...
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Soooo, even though they "officially" announced it coming to the US, it's not officially announced that it's coming to the US? I don't know what they mean, but by the way the email used "until" instead of "unless" and other ways it was phrased, I think the answer is yes, we will get an American release. But, maybe I'm just over analyzing it. Tell me what you guys think about it.
Dave

it just seems like they don't wanna give away any info about the TP2, even tho they already did. they're not making any sense by saying there is no word on a U.S. release, when we all know that there was an announcement of a U.S. release a while back. seems like they're basically saying there will be a U.S. release; they just wanna be secretive about it at the moment, which seems pointless to me

poppinpengawen said:
it just seems like they don't wanna give away any info about the TP2, even tho they already did. they're not making any sense by saying there is no word on a U.S. release, when we all know that there was an announcement of a U.S. release a while back. seems like they're basically saying there will be a U.S. release; they just wanna be secretive about it at the moment, which seems pointless to me
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i think that its more so the fact that when it come to the US they have contracts with all these companies that rebrand the device. so they choose to with hold the info to give those companies the best chance at selling the rebranded products.

htc will not be releasing a unlocked U.S. Touch Pro 2. at&t version will be called the fortress and is suppose 2 come out in july. Then you can unlock that version like my fuze is.

esincho said:
htc will not be releasing a unlocked U.S. Touch Pro 2. at&t version will be called the fortress and is suppose 2 come out in july. Then you can unlock that version like my fuze is.
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humm.. wonder if its worth getting the euro non-3g or waiting for the ATT version. Not sure how much longer i want to wait, but with ATT if i get it though them, i can have the phone insured. *ponders*

esincho said:
htc will not be releasing a unlocked U.S. Touch Pro 2. at&t version will be called the fortress and is suppose 2 come out in july. Then you can unlock that version like my fuze is.
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I agree with you that there will not likely be a US unlocked version since I don't recall HTC ever doing that before, but how do you know for sure? Also, I haven't heard any time frame for at&t's release until I just read your quote saying July. Where did you hear that? Was it from a reliable source? Thanks.

^ U might want to wait (like many of us), and not live on the EDGE w/o 3G!

Unbranded Touch Pro 2

I am thinking about getting the touch pro 2, and instead of waiting until AT&T finally releases it, I am thinking about biting the bullet and buying the unbranded unlocked version. My question is will the 3G still work. I have heard that 3G does not work on non-AT&T phones, or is that only if you buy an unlocked TMobile phone? Thanks for any help you can provide.

Search the forum, this has been answered 7,000 times.

Sorry, I did search and came up with thousands of answers and none of them seemed to answer my question specifically.

Ok, here the answer again by 7001 time
Europe original unbranded version will work only in Europe and Asia 3G and not in America networks

Just ordered the Tmo version today but I really like the unlocked version. Do you guys think there is a possibilty that the Euro version has support for AWS and is just not activated! I'm pretty sure this has been asked, but a search brought me no specific results. Why can't Tmobile just leave well enough alone!

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no, it won't work with AWS. only the Tmobile version does. EU doesn't work with any North American 3G, etc, etc, etc....

You could purchase the unlocked Australian version; 3G should work here, but that will cost $$$$.
http://personaldigital.com.au/p171/HTC-Touch-PRO-2-T7373-850-Mhz-NEXTG-!!-PRO2/buy.html

Lol!
That is very expensive!
better to try in clove uk in about 750usd

I don't see any support for 1700 mhz band in that AU version though.

reocej said:
I don't see any support for 1700 mhz band in that AU version though.
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No one else in the world supports 1700mhz, only T-Mobile.

Thanks
Thanks for the information. Saved me from buying an unlocked version that won't work on AT&T's 3G. Will just have to wait for AT&T, just hope it isn't that long of a wait.

Would I be able to buy it from AT&T (when available) on a separate, new account, unlock it, pay the termination fee, and use it on my regular AT&T account with little problem? It's cheaper to terminate than buy off contract, most of the time, as long as they don't give me any trouble. Should it work?

hi there, i want to know if there's gonna be an unbranded / unlocked version of the TP2, WITH 850/1800/1900 3G band support?

TicoHTC said:
hi there, i want to know if there's gonna be an unbranded / unlocked version of the TP2, WITH 850/1800/1900 3G band support?
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http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=24913

Thanks for that link!

Raspster said:
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=24913
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Great! thanks a lot for the info!

If anyone had experience buying with that store would be great to hear the input!!
Thanks in advance,

I have an unbranded TP2. I didn't want to wait any longer for AT&T to release theirs and I don't like the way they are going with their keyboard layout. I know 3G is important for most folks, but my essential needs is data connection for email and EDGE is doing a pretty damn good job. Maybe if I am waiting in line or something related to that, I may wish I had a faster connection to watch youtube, but for the most part, I have no regrets.

blognc said:
Would I be able to buy it from AT&T (when available) on a separate, new account, unlock it, pay the termination fee, and use it on my regular AT&T account with little problem? It's cheaper to terminate than buy off contract, most of the time, as long as they don't give me any trouble. Should it work?
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Yes that should work. But, how much is the termination fee? If you are paying $200 less to sign a 2-year contract then I'm sure the termination fee will be at least $200. Otherwise, I can't imagine at&t would make it that easy. Plus I'm sure you will have to pay for the first month of service, you won't get that back.

[Q] Samsung Galaxy Nexus to Canada...?

Hi guys,
Sorry if this has already been posted but I've been researching but couldn't find anything. I couldn't find any release dates for Canada except for the UK on November, 17, 2011, but now I'm hearing it's being delayed until the 2nd of December. Anyone got any idea of when this phone will come out in Canada? Or even if it's coming to Canada? Thanks for the help.

It's coming to Canada, but no one knows the release date. Here's a Mobilesyrup (Phone blog run by Canadians) hands on of the phone: http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/11/09/samsung-galaxy-nexus-hands-on-video/

Papaniz said:
Hi guys,
Sorry if this has already been posted but I've been researching but couldn't find anything. I couldn't find any release dates for Canada except for the UK on November, 17, 2011, but now I'm hearing it's being delayed until the 2nd of December. Anyone got any idea of when this phone will come out in Canada? Or even if it's coming to Canada? Thanks for the help.
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They showed it on CTV two days ago, which is owned by Bell.
Also, a Phandroid member said their store was visited by a Bell corporate Rep recently, and the Rep said it was coming to Bell around Christmas.

Keep in mind this is some random person on reddit...
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/maz4c/galaxy_nexus_coming_to_canada_on_rogers_for_launch/
Sometime in November sounds better than Bell at Christmas, if there's any truth to it...
A friend of mine was recently in a Rogers store looking for a new phone. She ended up getting an EVO 3D that they had on for $0.01, but she said the guy in the store was telling her all about the Nexus. I might stop by a Rogers store tomorrow and see what they say.

Would it even matter what provider got it first, I thought these things are unlocked anyways?

sal14m said:
Would it even matter what provider got it first, I thought these things are unlocked anyways?
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It should be unlocked, and that's exactly why one carrier getting it "sometime in November" is better for everyone than another carrier not having it until Christmas.
Of course, the carrier that gets it first might still matter to some people if they want to buy on contract...

http://www.google.ca/nexus/
Canadian sign up page.

Bell and Virgin Mobile now both have official Galaxy Nexus pages, with their own sign-up forms. No date other than "early December" so far, but this is the first official carrier confirmation I've seen in Canada, so it's still good news.
http://galaxynexus.bell.ca/
http://www.virginmobile.ca/en/hot-offers/offer-nexus.html

Would a Bell.ca phone be compatible on T-Mobile US? They don't use LTE, so I assume it is the GSM version. Would probably be a lot cheaper then importing from europe...

Most Canadian carriers, including Bell, are compatible with AT&T for 3G or 4G HSPA+ and not T-Mobile.
However... the Galaxy Nexus is a peta-band phone so it would work on any of them, including T-Mobile so importing would work.
EDIT: Bell and Rogers do both have LTE in a number of locations in Canada, but it's not very likely they'll be using the LTE version.

phazerorg said:
Most Canadian carriers, including Bell, are compatible with AT&T for 3G or 4G HSPA+ and not T-Mobile.
However... the Galaxy Nexus is a peta-band phone so it would work on any of them, including T-Mobile so importing would work.
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Thanks! Know any good reseller sites that would import it to the US? I assume bell wouldn't export it.

Anyone else preorder from Negri, handtec or clove? I did, not sure if i should cancel!

Thanks! Know any good reseller sites that would import it to the US? I assume bell wouldn't export it.
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Expansys Canada is taking pre-orders, but it's not cheap: http://www.expansys.ca/google-nexus-prime-android-smartphone-unlocked-16gb-224148/
Not sure about any other sellers yet, but maybe someone could buy you one from Bell and send it
Anyone else preorder from Negri, handtec or clove? I did, not sure if i should cancel!
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Not me... even paying full price without contract from Bell or another Canadian carrier is likely going to be cheaper than importing, and "early December" is soon enough for me that I'll just wait it out.

phazerorg said:
Expansys Canada is taking pre-orders, but it's not cheap: http://www.expansys.ca/google-nexus-prime-android-smartphone-unlocked-16gb-224148/
Not sure about any other sellers yet, but maybe someone could buy you one from Bell and send it
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Yeah, that is way too expensive to me. I figured without it coming from europe with all that VAT taxes, ect, it would be around the 600's

Looks like Rogers is getting the Galaxy Nexus too!
http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/11/14/rogers-to-release-the-samsung-galaxy-nexus-in-january-2012/
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Telus will be getting the Nexus as well, looks like people can finally stop complaining over the internet over which carrier gets the Nexus...
http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/11/14/telus-will-also-launch-the-samsung-galaxy-nexus-in-january-2012/

LeanNSupreme said:
Looks like Rogers is getting the Galaxy Nexus too!
http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/11/14/rogers-to-release-the-samsung-galaxy-nexus-in-january-2012/
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Not until January though. I'm considering switching to Bell when they have it in early December, after 11 years with Rogers. Rogers also has hardly any HSPA+ coverage in Nova Scotia, while Bell has it over the whole province, so Bell getting the Galaxy Nexus first might just make me switch...

Bell and Virgin are first to get Galaxy Nexus in Canada.
http://galaxynexus.bell.ca/en/?INT=MOB_hmpg_BAN_GalaxyNexus_prereg_mass_111411_TM_ALL

as u know Future Shop will start getting pre order from monday in canada...
any one have any information about which version is supposed to release by Future Shop? ( GSM,CDMA,LTE........... )
unlocked or .....
tnx

According to the Verge, the LTE 32GB model is for Verizon only. The rest of the world gets the 16GB unlocked pentaband HSPA+ model.

Daniel_GB said:
as u know Future Shop will start getting pre order from monday in canada...
any one have any information about which version is supposed to release by Future Shop? ( GSM,CDMA,LTE........... )
unlocked or .....
tnx
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It could only be the HSPA+ version, as the CDMA/LTE version works ONLY on Verizon's network. I would guess Future Shop would be selling them for Bell or Virgin (can anyone confirm?). It should be unlocked (Nexus S was), but we won't know for sure until someone gets one and reports.

[Q] Nexus 7 LTE Google play

Can I buy the nexus 7 LTE version from google play and use it abroad? Has anyone done this? Would appreciate any information on countries one could use the nexus.

It'll work fine a road, but you probably won't have LTE. You'll have to make do with HSPA+.
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It'll work fine a road, but you probably won't have LTE. You'll have to make do with HSPA+.
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He may get it depending on which country he's in. The NA version of the N7 LTE supports LTE bands 1/2/3/4/5/13/17.
1 - Macedonia
3 - Azerbaijan, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France (Bouyges), Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Isle of Man, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Macedonia, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Span, Switzerland, UK
2, 4, 5, 13 and 17 aren't used in Europe.
Unfortunately, the main bands are 7 and 20. So it's possible you'll get LTE but even in those countries, some are 7 with some 3 (France for example) so you might find 3 support spotty.
Annoyingly, Canada is 4 and 7. So we have a similar problem with the NA N7 LTE. It's ok right now - but there's a growing move to 7 which will make this device a problem in a few years.

Thanks for the information guys, those are very helpful details. Am guessing the nexus 7 available from google play unlocked? The price of the unlocked version and the carrier version is the same and that got me thinking if there was a catch.
Could you use the nexus 7 with a SIM to make calls?

coffeelude said:
Thanks for the information guys, those are very helpful details. Am guessing the nexus 7 available from google play unlocked? The price of the unlocked version and the carrier version is the same and that got me thinking if there was a catch.
Could you use the nexus 7 with a SIM to make calls?
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They're all unlocked. They just include a carrier SIM for added convenience. There's no such thing as an N7 LTE that's locked to a carrier.
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coffeelude said:
Can I buy the nexus 7 LTE version from google play and use it abroad? Has anyone done this? Would appreciate any information on countries one could use the nexus.
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I actually just bought the unlocked N7 for the same reason to travel aboard, and i didnt want carrier locks while there and having to mess to much with unlocking to insert different sims. But, i just got a Tmobile SIM, they have a plan called Simple Choice plan. They are giving free 2G of data on top of the plan you purchase from to over 100+ countries they have service. I pay $50/month for 6.5G of data for US service. I think they have a plan as low as $30/month for 2.5G US Service. And when i travel next year, to a country listed, i will get 2GIG a month, which is totally cool when im only there for two weeks anyway.
And if the country is not listed, then i just buy a local sim for data and never have to worry because the device is unlocked.

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I actually just bought the unlocked N7 for the same reason to travel aboard, and i didnt want carrier locks while there and having to mess to much with unlocking to insert different sims. But, i just got a Tmobile SIM, they have a plan called Simple Choice plan. They are giving free 2G of data on top of the plan you purchase from to over 100+ countries they have service. I pay $50/month for 6.5G of data for US service. I think they have a plan as low as $30/month for 2.5G US Service. And when i travel next year, to a country listed, i will get 2GIG a month, which is totally cool when im only there for two weeks anyway.
And if the country is not listed, then i just buy a local sim for data and never have to worry because the device is unlocked.
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So you get 2 GB ON TOP of the 6.5GB?! That's awesome.
How about the minutes, though? If someone casks you at your US numbers and you answered, how much is the per minute cost?

lanwarrior said:
So you get 2 GB ON TOP of the 6.5GB?! That's awesome.
How about the minutes, though? If someone casks you at your US numbers and you answered, how much is the per minute cost?
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It's not 2GB. It's 200MB.
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They're all unlocked. They just include a carrier SIM for added convenience. There's no such thing as an N7 LTE that's locked to a carrier.
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Awesome thanks for the information.

lanwarrior said:
So you get 2 GB ON TOP of the 6.5GB?! That's awesome.
How about the minutes, though? If someone casks you at your US numbers and you answered, how much is the per minute cost?
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I thought i read somewhere thats calls were .20 per minute. I dont have phone capabilities. So i dont care. I talked with a rep, its unlimited text and data on 2G network for 100+ countries. You can buy 4g/lte data at $5 for 500MB and $10 1GIG for 7 days. The 200MB is for US service not overseas. i hope that clears up the confusion.

Question about UK to US move

Hi there,
Sorry if this is an obvious question - I'm a big mobile enthusiast, but probably not as technically minded as some of you folks
I'm in the UK right now but am moving to the US permanently in a few weeks. I'm getting the Note 7 and am torn between what to do - buy it here or there.
Here's my thinking: If I buy here, it will be free of all that yucky bloatware you get over there since I gather that even if I purchase from BestBuy, there's nothing quite like a sim-free unlocked phone of the type we would get here. And that carrier bloatware scares me. I don't want to have to be rooting my phone and messing about with it to make it run at an acceptable speed when it inevitably starts to slow down, down the line. Plus, I just hate the thought of having all of that rubbish on my phone. If I'm spending $900 or so, I want it to be pure as the driven snow!
I'm not sure which network I'm going to be going for in the US (as an 'Alien' new to the US with no credit history, it's not easy to get a contract) but what I'm looking at is either T-Mobile or AT&T (possibly Cricket, if not main AT&T.) Although I hear T-Mobile signal can be patchy. I'll be in Los Angeles, so I imagine signal should be good.
So what I'm wondering is - will it all work OK there? I'm assuming the GSM version we get in the UK will be compatible with those two networks, though not Verizon. Although I doubt I'll go with Verizon because their packages don't really look good for what I need and also I hear their bloatware in particular is immense!
I know we have a different processor in the Exynos edition (or is that the one you guys have and we have Snapdragon? Anyway, you know what I mean..) But would that processor make any actual difference in day to day use? Does the processor just run the software or does it have an influence on how the phone actually works with the network as a phone and data device? Am I likely to run into problems?
Also, you probably can't answer this - but worth a try.. I assume that Samsung's warranties are not international? Right now, I am on an iPhone and I know that if it breaks in the US, I can just take it to an Apple store in the US. My gut tells me if I buy in the UK and it starts playing up, I'll be on my own, unless you know different? But hey - it's a trade off. Bloatware vs warranty.
Anyway, any thoughts or advice would be gratefully received.
Thanks all.
Phil :good:

Definitely buy the Exynos International version of the phone. I live near Los Angeles and plan to purchase the international version as well because it has no bloatware. It will be my first purchase of an international unlocked phone. I'm on AT&T but my understanding is that T-mobile rocks in Los Angeles. You can't go wrong with AT&T or T-Mobile, but I would lean toward T-Mobile if I were you, they are really kicking butt right now.
The exynos version of the phone will have better battery life by just a bit and it will be only slightly faster. They both have trade-offs, but in the end, it doesn't make a big difference, just get the international version, which is what all of us Americans want. I don't know about the warranty, you might have to ship the phone off for that.

if you buy one in the UK, make sure you make a few phone calls before you move.
European Samsung phones usually refuse to accept US SIM cards unless you make a phone call for a few minutes using a European SIM.

thedicemaster said:
if you buy one in the UK, make sure you make a few phone calls before you move.
European Samsung phones usually refuse to accept US SIM cards unless you make a phone call for a few minutes using a European SIM.
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That's a very good point! I remember reading about this with my old Galaxy when it said that it locked it to the country where the first phone call was made.
But would this possibly present problems? If I made a few calls with my Vodafone sim, would that then mean that it locks it to UK networks and makes a T-Mobile USA or AT&T sim incompatible?
And bands-wise, they're all good to go, right? There's no reason a local US sim wouldn't work 100% in that model? And the processor doesn't make a difference? Just wondering why they bother to put two different processor types in the phone otherwise?

DuffmasterFresh said:
Definitely buy the Exynos International version of the phone. I live near Los Angeles and plan to purchase the international version as well because it has no bloatware. It will be my first purchase of an international unlocked phone. I'm on AT&T but my understanding is that T-mobile rocks in Los Angeles. You can't go wrong with AT&T or T-Mobile, but I would lean toward T-Mobile if I were you, they are really kicking butt right now.
The exynos version of the phone will have better battery life by just a bit and it will be only slightly faster. They both have trade-offs, but in the end, it doesn't make a big difference, just get the international version, which is what all of us Americans want. I don't know about the warranty, you might have to ship the phone off for that.
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Thanks - this is really helpful. Good to know TM are good there as had heard a few stories about bad coverage.

it's the opposite.
unless they changed it just for the note 7, you have to use the phone in the UK before you can use it in the US.
here's a quote from an article regarding the region lock in the S7 and S7 edge:
its box will be sealed with a sticker reading "European SIM card only."
The tab below this sticker explains how and why, albeit in tiny and rather verbose script. Essentially, in order for your unlocked European GS7 to be fully unlocked, you first need to make a total of five minutes worth of phone calls using a European SIM. If you don't do this, and try to use it with a SIM from outside of Europe, it won't connect to the network.
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this is to prevent shops from selling European phones in the US.
the unlocking method is so that people moving outside Europe after buying a phone can continue to use it.

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it's the opposite.
unless they changed it just for the note 7, you have to use the phone in the UK before you can use it in the US.
here's a quote from an article regarding the region lock in the S7 and S7 edge:
this is to prevent shops from selling European phones in the US.
the unlocking method is so that people moving outside Europe after buying a phone can continue to use it.
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Got it - just been reading up on it. Thanks for this.
Well, that all looks simple enough. Shouldn't be an issue.
In fact, my only fear is warranty now. If I smash or crack it (which I will try not to obvs, but heaven forbid, it happens), I may be spannered.
I doubt my insurance will cover it if it is an international model and Samsung look like they don't do international warranties.
That's the only thing stopping me sitting here pressing 'order' when I'm on the verge of it.
Also, I wonder if Samsung Pay will be affected, If maybe, somehow, that's region specific.
It's a big risk.. Eeek!

Screw it, I've ordered.
So just to clarify - the bands on the international (UK) unlocked version will be compatible with ATT/Cricket and T-Mobile?