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unlocked TP2 that works with AT&T's 3G bands???

hey guys
I was wondering if there is anyone that has bought an unlocked TP2, and who has AT&T, could tell me if the unlocked version of the phone works with AT&T's 3G bands. I've been asking this question all around the rhodium forums, and I've been getting some very convincing answers, but I really need to hear it from someone who has actually purchased the phone and who has AT&T in the U.S.
and also, does anyone know if there is any form of warranty or insurance offered when you buy an unlocked phone?? that's one of my major needs, just in case something unexpected happens. If there isn't then I'm gonna have to wait until AT&T releases their "customized" version of the TP2. with all of AT&T's design flaws.
thanks!!

i dont believe so if i remember correctly it does not have 850 and 1900 band for highspeed...you would only get edge connection and make calls.

TP2 For USA?
I have also been looking high and low, I have located a decent website that really sets me at ease as a buyer the TP2 is not here yet, but it is still early- either way, the FAQ really set me at ease, I am planning my Tp2 to be purchased from them- not only is there an option to assure connectivity in the US on all levels of at&t'S network, but the freq's upon which the phone one purchases are listed on the site- AT&T to my understanding is on 850 & 1900 mhz- which is clearly displayed here- not only that, but here is a "compatibility" chart where one can actually select the network of any proposed purchase-
http://www.cellhut.com
Like I said, the FAQ really made me feel at ease- plus they offer an additional warranty along with the manufacturer's (for purchase)-
that is the plan, I will definitely post any positive results- It is tempting to just buy a new TyTNII sans the AT&T crap, plus the front camera, instead of waiting for the TP2...

snormansell said:
I have also been looking high and low, I have located a decent website that really sets me at ease as a buyer the TP2 is not here yet, but it is still early- either way, the FAQ really set me at ease, I am planning my Tp2 to be purchased from them- not only is there an option to assure connectivity in the US on all levels of at&t'S network, but the freq's upon which the phone one purchases are listed on the site- AT&T to my understanding is on 850 & 1900 mhz- which is clearly displayed here- not only that, but here is a "compatibility" chart where one can actually select the network of any proposed purchase-
http://www.cellhut.com
Like I said, the FAQ really made me feel at ease- plus they offer an additional warranty along with the manufacturer's (for purchase)-
that is the plan, I will definitely post any positive results- It is tempting to just buy a new TyTNII sans the AT&T crap, plus the front camera, instead of waiting for the TP2...
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yes please let me know how your purchase goes. how sure are you that this site is legit? i'm worried about buying an unlocked TP2 and finding out that the website is a scam nd that i just lost out on 500+ of hard-earned money. i'll check it out tho

snormansell said:
I have also been looking high and low, I have located a decent website that really sets me at ease as a buyer the TP2 is not here yet, but it is still early- either way, the FAQ really set me at ease, I am planning my Tp2 to be purchased from them- not only is there an option to assure connectivity in the US on all levels of at&t'S network, but the freq's upon which the phone one purchases are listed on the site- AT&T to my understanding is on 850 & 1900 mhz- which is clearly displayed here- not only that, but here is a "compatibility" chart where one can actually select the network of any proposed purchase-
http://www.cellhut.com
Like I said, the FAQ really made me feel at ease- plus they offer an additional warranty along with the manufacturer's (for purchase)-
that is the plan, I will definitely post any positive results- It is tempting to just buy a new TyTNII sans the AT&T crap, plus the front camera, instead of waiting for the TP2...
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Sorry to disappoint you but the best option is to wait for the AT&T release. Here's why:
Starting with the Touch Diamond and the Touch Pro, HTC released a European model which does not contain AT&T 3G bands and is only useable on the EDGE network which is much slower. Correct me if I am wrong, but I think the only brand new factory unlocked versions have been the European or Asian models. The price is also much higher for an unbranded unlocked phone. All indications are that they will be doing the same thing with the Touch Pro2. The following is the specs on the TP2 straight from HTC's European website: Here's the link.
NetworkHSPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
Up to 2 Mbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
Europe/Asia: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
(Band frequency, HSPA availability, and data speed are operator dependent.)
You can see that HSPA (3G) is only supported at 900/2100. AT&T uses 850/1900 for 3G. I made the mistake of purchasing the HTC Touch Pro from Europe then had to sell it for a $400 loss on eBay and purchase the AT&T Fuze from an AT&T store.
Typically, HTC releases their new devices in Europe and Asia 1-2 months prior to a US release. It may be torture to have to sit and wait on it while your friends across the pond are already flashing new ROMs to their new shiny phone, but you'll be much better off.

really? there is another thread on the rhodium forum titled "unbranded touch pro 2" and the thread starter posted a link from infosync.com saying that HTC is planning to release a version of the TP2 in the summer that will be compatible with AT&T's 3G bands. how true is that? i hope its true! im getting really anxious and impatient!

poppinpengawen said:
really? there is another thread on the rhodium forum titled "unbranded touch pro 2" and the thread starter posted a link from infosync.com saying that HTC is planning to release a version of the TP2 in the summer that will be compatible with AT&T's 3G bands. how true is that? i hope its true! im getting really anxious and impatient!
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Yes, I read that after I made my post above. That is great news since I don't think I am going to like AT&T's modifications. I am not eligible for an upgrade yet anyway since I bought the Fuze not that long ago. I wonder if it will be released at the same time as the Europe/Asia models.
I can't find the TP2 on cellhut.com. They must have taken it off their site. I certainly wouldn't trust a dealer that I am not familiar with and hasn't been vouched for on this forum.

don't you think the reason it's not on the site is because it's not out yet? I was actually thinking about just buying it straight from HTC, but the one thing I need to be sure of is if it will support AT&T's 3G bands.
so none of the TP2s being sold on expansys or any of the other sites that are offering them will support U.S. 3G?

poppinpengawen said:
don't you think the reason it's not on the site is because it's not out yet? I was actually thinking about just buying it straight from HTC, but the one thing I need to be sure of is if it will support AT&T's 3G bands.
so none of the TP2s being sold on expansys or any of the other sites that are offering them will support U.S. 3G?
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Expansys has the UK model listed. They will probably sell the US unlocked version as well, but I would never buy from them again. They lie about items being in stock and I have never received anything from them quickly. When I've purchased from overseas in the past I have used Clove who have always been honest about stock and are very fast shippers. Hopefully newegg.com will have it. They sell some other unlocked HTC phones.

so once those sites start selling the US unlocked TP2, we can buy it from there and they'll work with the US 3G bands right? we just have to wait until the unlocked ones are available online?

Hey everybody,
I actually emailed HTC-America ([email protected]) and I asked them if the Unlocked-US version of the TP2 would support 3G networks. I said that they confirmed on their twitter feed that it would be coming to the US, so I was rightly wondering whether an Unlocked-US version would support our weird 3G frequencies.
I think there was a misunderstanding because they said that the HTC twitter feed was in no way run or affiliated with HTC, which doesn't make sense because ON the TP2's product overview page, they actually link to their Facebook, YouTube, and TWITTER accounts.
So I emailed them back saying that of course they have to run that twitter feed, and asked them the question again, but they probably won't get back to me until Monday at least. I'll keep everybody updated on the responses I get, as I, and many others, would REALLY hate to buy another AT&T subsidized model of anything.
Dave

thank man that's good. that doesn't make any sense tho! how can they say that they're not affiliated with the HTC twitter feed? that's stupid lol. keep us updated bro!!!

poppinpengawen said:
so once those sites start selling the US unlocked TP2, we can buy it from there and they'll work with the US 3G bands right? we just have to wait until the unlocked ones are available online?
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I mention Clove in case you ever plan to buy from the UK. Quite positive they won't be selling the US version anyway. If there is a US unlocked version look for it to say UMTS or HSPA with the bands 850/1900. For GSM it will be quad-band and work most places in the world. Of course, online retailers sometimes make mistakes in their listings so you may want to confirm it by contacting the company you purchase from, or even better wait for someone who bought one to post their results in this forum.

I got the reply from HTC today, and it was a kind of mixed answer. The reply to my last email I sent was this:
... I understand how important it is to have the full information for upcoming products. Until there is information for this product available on HTC's United States web page, then we would not be able to confirm the specs for an American release of this device ...
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Soooo, even though they "officially" announced it coming to the US, it's not officially announced that it's coming to the US? I don't know what they mean, but by the way the email used "until" instead of "unless" and other ways it was phrased, I think the answer is yes, we will get an American release. But, maybe I'm just over analyzing it. Tell me what you guys think about it.
Dave

it just seems like they don't wanna give away any info about the TP2, even tho they already did. they're not making any sense by saying there is no word on a U.S. release, when we all know that there was an announcement of a U.S. release a while back. seems like they're basically saying there will be a U.S. release; they just wanna be secretive about it at the moment, which seems pointless to me

poppinpengawen said:
it just seems like they don't wanna give away any info about the TP2, even tho they already did. they're not making any sense by saying there is no word on a U.S. release, when we all know that there was an announcement of a U.S. release a while back. seems like they're basically saying there will be a U.S. release; they just wanna be secretive about it at the moment, which seems pointless to me
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i think that its more so the fact that when it come to the US they have contracts with all these companies that rebrand the device. so they choose to with hold the info to give those companies the best chance at selling the rebranded products.

htc will not be releasing a unlocked U.S. Touch Pro 2. at&t version will be called the fortress and is suppose 2 come out in july. Then you can unlock that version like my fuze is.

esincho said:
htc will not be releasing a unlocked U.S. Touch Pro 2. at&t version will be called the fortress and is suppose 2 come out in july. Then you can unlock that version like my fuze is.
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humm.. wonder if its worth getting the euro non-3g or waiting for the ATT version. Not sure how much longer i want to wait, but with ATT if i get it though them, i can have the phone insured. *ponders*

esincho said:
htc will not be releasing a unlocked U.S. Touch Pro 2. at&t version will be called the fortress and is suppose 2 come out in july. Then you can unlock that version like my fuze is.
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I agree with you that there will not likely be a US unlocked version since I don't recall HTC ever doing that before, but how do you know for sure? Also, I haven't heard any time frame for at&t's release until I just read your quote saying July. Where did you hear that? Was it from a reliable source? Thanks.

^ U might want to wait (like many of us), and not live on the EDGE w/o 3G!

Currently in California from the UK

Hi,
I'm currently in the US and would love to buy an MT3G for the wife, it's a really nice phone.
However will it work fully in the UK without issues?

Hope this helps...
In short, I think so. Most T-Mobile phones, especially smartphones, are quad band. You're probably going to need a different UK SIM card, though.
Here's a link to the MT3GS spec sheet: http://bit.ly/c3Hm3v. I don't know what frequencies are used in the UK, but I'm sure it will work in some capacity.

A friend of mine is in Israel right now with a mt3gS and all he had to do was buy a sim card for that location.

you also need to get it unlocked.. Some sites offer the service for as low as 10$ U.S. or if you pay the full price at tmobile you can ask them for the code and they should allow you to unlock it

Thanks for all your replies, might see about picking one up!
I'm in Orange county at the moment! god damn it's hot here.
heybobitsme said:
In short, I think so. Most T-Mobile phones, especially smartphones, are quad band. You're probably going to need a different UK SIM card, though.
Here's a link to the MT3GS spec sheet: http://bit.ly/c3Hm3v. I don't know what frequencies are used in the UK, but I'm sure it will work in some capacity.
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Samsung Captivate Glide in India

Being a qwerty fan, I did some homework and concluded Captivate Glide as the ideal phone for me.
But the problem is, I'm in India and they don't sell this model in India.
Assuming I arrange to sneak one from the US, what are the possible issues I might face? Like connectivity issues or something?
Can I get an unlocked version from the US or unlock codes will be required to use it with carriers in India? It has a SIM slot, right?
and lastly, is CyanogenMod available for Captivate Glide?
Thanks in anticipation!

aashish2137 said:
Being a qwerty fan, I did some homework and concluded Captivate Glide as the ideal phone for me.
But the problem is, I'm in India and they don't sell this model in India.
Assuming I arrange to sneak one from the US, what are the possible issues I might face? Like connectivity issues or something?
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Never had a single connectivity issue. But i did have sleep deaths (were the device wont wake up during sleep), it did happen only once or twice, until now, never experienced any
aashish2137 said:
Can I get an unlocked version from the US or unlock codes will be required to use it with carriers in India? It has a SIM slot, right?
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Yes the glide is a GSM device, works with SIM cards. There are unlock codes available, but because the glide is only months old (almost a year), you might get your unlock code quite delayed from unlocking companies.
aashish2137 said:
and lastly, is CyanogenMod available for Captivate Glide?
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as per the Devs here and in teamhacksung, the Glide is capable of running CyanogenMod. If time permits, devs can get CM ported on the Glide.
aashish2137 said:
Thanks in anticipation!
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hope this answers some of your concerns.

gabby131 said:
Never had a single connectivity issue. But i did have sleep deaths (were the device wont wake up during sleep), it did happen only once or twice, until now, never experienced any
Yes the glide is a GSM device, works with SIM cards. There are unlock codes available, but because the glide is only months old (almost a year), you might get your unlock code quite delayed from unlocking companies.
as per the Devs here and in teamhacksung, the Glide is capable of running CyanogenMod. If time permits, devs can get CM ported on the Glide.
hope this answers some of your concerns.
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It sure does! Thanks!
Also, have a couple more too
What are the possible ways in which I can buy one in India? Online shopping for an unlocked version?

aashish2137 said:
It sure does! Thanks!
Also, have a couple more too
What are the possible ways in which I can buy one in India? Online shopping for an unlocked version?
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hmmm...i think negrielectronics sell them unlocked (ATT version) and i believe they ship internationally.....
ebay is another one, but you need to be very careful.
so far that's what i know....will update

gabby131 said:
hmmm...i think negrielectronics sell them unlocked (ATT version) and i believe they ship internationally.....
ebay is another one, but you need to be very careful.
so far that's what i know....will update
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sure. thanks again!

aashish2137 said:
It sure does! Thanks!
Also, have a couple more too
What are the possible ways in which I can buy one in India? Online shopping for an unlocked version?
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In December I had bought an Captivate Glide through eBay for a great deal..
Got it to India, through Borderlinx - http://www.borderlinx.com/pages/how-it-works
(slightly costlier compared to other service providers) with duty and taxes..
+ Unlocking - 20 to 25$..
Overall it came below 500$.. I guess now it will be much cheaper..

check this thread

VinayS said:
In December I had bought an Captivate Glide through eBay for a great deal..
Got it to India, through Borderlinx - http://www.borderlinx.com/pages/how-it-works
(slightly costlier compared to other service providers) with duty and taxes..
+ Unlocking - 20 to 25$..
Overall it came below 500$.. I guess now it will be much cheaper..
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oh that's great
Seeing you are from India, I tried to PM you the day I created this thread, but it didn't work somehow!
supposing I can have someone get me a piece from the US, I should suggest them to buy an unlocked version, right?
Will I still need to unlock it again in India? (Like with American_Unlocker and all?)
Also, are you facing any sort of problems with the sub-par network providers in India?
Sorry for the n00bness!
sbiricuda said:
check this thread
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Sure. Thanks!

aashish2137 said:
oh that's great
Seeing you are from India, I tried to PM you the day I created this thread, but it didn't work somehow!
supposing I can have someone get me a piece from the US, I should suggest them to buy an unlocked version, right?
Will I still need to unlock it again in India? (Like with American_Unlocker and all?)
Also, are you facing any sort of problems with the sub-par network providers in India?
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If you can get an unlocked AT & T or Rogers version (without carrier symbol), there is no need to unlock it again in india. once unlocked, stays for forever..
You will not face any problem with any sim provider..
At india carriers use 2G - GSM 900/1800 and 3G-UMTS 2100.
This phone has 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100

I love to see how many people are using this phone all around the world ! Or at least trying too!
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CWMR5x_i927_recovery.tar.md5
Ardatdat Kernel v1.2
Rogers Stock Rom with Some Bloat Removed..

VinayS said:
If you can get an unlocked AT & T or Rogers version (without carrier symbol), there is no need to unlock it again in india. once unlocked, stays for forever..
You will not face any problem with any sim provider..
At india carriers use 2G - GSM 900/1800 and 3G-UMTS 2100.
This phone has 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
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Okay. So say I order this deal - http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Samsung-Cap...&_pcatid=801&_pcategid=9355&_dmpt=Cell_Phones, address it to someone in US and get it in India.
I'll still need to unlock it because its from ebay, right?
Similarly if I order this - https://negrielectronics.com/samsun...glide-rogers-unlocked-black.html#.T7XUReh7VXA from Negri, it will be unlocked, right?
Also, I assume this will support 3G in India.
n00bness! apologizes!
dudejb said:
I love to see how many people are using this phone all around the world ! Or at least trying too!
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Its a beautiful phone. I wonder why isn't Samsung launching it worldwide!

aashish2137 said:
Okay. So say I order this deal - http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Samsung-Cap...&_pcatid=801&_pcategid=9355&_dmpt=Cell_Phones, address it to someone in US and get it in India.
I'll still need to unlock it because its from ebay, right?
Similarly if I order this - https://negrielectronics.com/samsun...glide-rogers-unlocked-black.html#.T7XUReh7VXA from Negri, it will be unlocked, right?
Also, I assume this will support 3G in India.
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@eBay you have both Locked and Unlocked versions available..
negrielectronics offes unlocked version and yes 3G will work..

VinayS said:
@eBay you have both Locked and Unlocked versions available..
negrielectronics offes unlocked version and yes 3G will work..
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Great. Thanks a lot

Which deal to go for?
I have contacted someone in the US who will order the phone online, collect it and bring it to India.
Now the question is, which deal to go for? (among the choices given below?
OR
Can it bought at the stores and unlocked later through AmericanUnlocker?
Preferably, I'd choose to do the latter, if its possible!
Anyway, the online deals I could get are:
1. http://canadagsm.ca/SAMSUNG/Captivate-Glide-i927/
I don't think this is the Rogers version! I wouldn't want the AT&T logo on my phone, but then this isn't a deal breaker. $325 seems like a good price.
2. http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-sgh-i927-captivate-glide-rogers-unlocked-black.html
At $455, its almost a $100 expensive. I don't understand the reason!
3. http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-captivate-glide-at-t-black-unlocked.html
This is available for $349! Only because its AT&T and the former is Rogers!
4. http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Samsung-Cap...&_pcategid=15032&_dmpt=Cell_Phones&_dashexp=1
Ebay is giving it for $310 !!
Now this is confusing!! Why the fluctuation in prices?

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Can the phone be bought over the counter without a contract?

U can always buy a phone withou a contract but ur gonna get shafted with the price.. ur beat bet is either online or have someone bring it to u...
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I927 using XDA

phatryan69 said:
U can always buy a phone withou a contract but ur gonna get shafted with the price.. ur beat bet is either online or have someone bring it to u...
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I927 using XDA
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I've someone bringing it for me, but I'm getting variable prices on online offers. All this shakes the trust in these retailers. That is why I want to buy it over the counter.. I'll check the price difference later, but is it possible to go to an AT&T store and buy one, without getting a contract?

aashish2137 said:
I've someone bringing it for me, but I'm getting variable prices on online offers. All this shakes the trust in these retailers. That is why I want to buy it over the counter.. I'll check the price difference later, but is it possible to go to an AT&T store and buy one, without getting a contract?
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Yes.
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LTE compatibility

HI all, I am in UK and really want to buy the NOTE 2 now. Problem is, amazon UK only sell the non LTE version. I'm sure there will be an LTE version coming out as TMobile is launching theirs next week here - soon everyone will follow, and I'm willing to wait a few months.
But here is the question:
If I'll buy a Note 2 LTE version in UK, will it work in USA? I have been to the Samsung demo booth and asked the pretty girls about it but they all did not know the answer....
Thanks

nm8 said:
HI all, I am in UK and really want to buy the NOTE 2 now. Problem is, amazon UK only sell the non LTE version. I'm sure there will be an LTE version coming out as TMobile is launching theirs next week here - soon everyone will follow, and I'm willing to wait a few months.
But here is the question:
If I'll buy a Note 2 LTE version in UK, will it work in USA? I have been to the Samsung demo booth and asked the pretty girls about it but they all did not know the answer....
Thanks
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Firstly it sounds like you need to do some more research on LTE in the UK.
T-Mobile are not launching LTE, EE are. You will need a contract with EE to be able to get 4G. You will be able to move from T-MOB to EE easily but there may be an early cancellation fee (unless EE let you waive that) and tarrif costs for EE have not been released yet, but you can expect them to be high £45+ per month at a guess), also there is no word yet on what data limits EE will impose, but they will not be unlimited I am sure of that.
Secondly you need to check what LTE bands EE will be using then make sure the LTE phone you purchase covers those same bands.

Thanks for replying.
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Firstly it sounds like you need to do some more research on LTE in the UK.
T-Mobile are not launching LTE, EE are. You will need a contract with EE to be able to get 4G. You will be able to move from T-MOB to EE easily but there may be an early cancellation fee (unless EE let you waive that) and tarrif costs for EE have not been released yet, but you can expect them to be high £45+ per month at a guess), also there is no word yet on what data limits EE will impose, but they will not be unlimited I am sure of that.
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Well, from what I understand, EE is another arm of TMob and I got an email from them saying my signal will start to show EE instead of Tmobile anyway. I am currently with Tmob and am due for an upgrade in 2 months. Those facts don't matter to me because I will be moving soon to the USA, maybe early next year. Hence my original question. I wanted to buy a future proof phone which I can keep for 2 to 3 years and that it will work in USA.
Lennyuk said:
Secondly you need to check what LTE bands EE will be using then make sure the LTE phone you purchase covers those same bands.
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This quite gives me an idea of what to look for, and I have read last night. Wikipedia says USA operates 700mhz, while in UK I think is 800mhz if I understood what I read correctly.
Again that is why I asked the question, to have a quick answer from people who know.

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from what i have read you cannot simply go out and get a lte uk note2 (when they are released on the 15th oct) and then jump on a plane and fly to usa take out sim and replace with another vendors lte sim card and use lte.
reason ...incompatible LTE wavebands.
hence a lot of americans having to wait until there providors have launched there LTE phones such as at&t and verizon.
the uk model will only work with uk wavebands and even then untill the 15th oct we dont know which it will cover... me im hoping for all 3 uk bands so itll cover 02 when they come out with lte next year.
so if your going to america get one from a provider/isp over there
hope that answers your question.

The thing is, this phone will be counter intuitive if it works that way specially to those who really travel a lot, so one would need to buy a NOte 2 for each country they travel to ???
I'm still hoping there will be something like a 4G LTE quad band that will work with most countries. I might wait a bit longer then and see what will be the compatibility like.

exactly what im doing..... waiting to see what its compatability is...
also i want 32gb version so got to wait anyway
rumour has it that is out after christmas now if true that too sucks ...

might get an iphone 5 then.... LOL

nm8 said:
The thing is, this phone will be counter intuitive if it works that way specially to those who really travel a lot, so one would need to buy a NOte 2 for each country they travel to ???
I'm still hoping there will be something like a 4G LTE quad band that will work with most countries. I might wait a bit longer then and see what will be the compatibility like.
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only the nokia 920 and LG optimus G is down to have universal LTE quad band antenna/chips ........found that out today.. heck even the iphone5 only supports one frequency and even that the uk doesnt work in usa.
think there should be a standard chip covers all of them or at least reprogramable via firmware so it can be changed should as your doing go abroad ...
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id wait and see after the 15th oct than youll get an idea on what it covers 4g wise..who know it may come with universal chip miracles do happens...sometimes
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oh and by the way October 24th is when the US LTE Note 2 version will be announced.

Thanks for that, I have given up reading for now as I have been googling for most of my time... keep us updated of what you find out, I will do the same.... cheers

Question about UK to US move

Hi there,
Sorry if this is an obvious question - I'm a big mobile enthusiast, but probably not as technically minded as some of you folks
I'm in the UK right now but am moving to the US permanently in a few weeks. I'm getting the Note 7 and am torn between what to do - buy it here or there.
Here's my thinking: If I buy here, it will be free of all that yucky bloatware you get over there since I gather that even if I purchase from BestBuy, there's nothing quite like a sim-free unlocked phone of the type we would get here. And that carrier bloatware scares me. I don't want to have to be rooting my phone and messing about with it to make it run at an acceptable speed when it inevitably starts to slow down, down the line. Plus, I just hate the thought of having all of that rubbish on my phone. If I'm spending $900 or so, I want it to be pure as the driven snow!
I'm not sure which network I'm going to be going for in the US (as an 'Alien' new to the US with no credit history, it's not easy to get a contract) but what I'm looking at is either T-Mobile or AT&T (possibly Cricket, if not main AT&T.) Although I hear T-Mobile signal can be patchy. I'll be in Los Angeles, so I imagine signal should be good.
So what I'm wondering is - will it all work OK there? I'm assuming the GSM version we get in the UK will be compatible with those two networks, though not Verizon. Although I doubt I'll go with Verizon because their packages don't really look good for what I need and also I hear their bloatware in particular is immense!
I know we have a different processor in the Exynos edition (or is that the one you guys have and we have Snapdragon? Anyway, you know what I mean..) But would that processor make any actual difference in day to day use? Does the processor just run the software or does it have an influence on how the phone actually works with the network as a phone and data device? Am I likely to run into problems?
Also, you probably can't answer this - but worth a try.. I assume that Samsung's warranties are not international? Right now, I am on an iPhone and I know that if it breaks in the US, I can just take it to an Apple store in the US. My gut tells me if I buy in the UK and it starts playing up, I'll be on my own, unless you know different? But hey - it's a trade off. Bloatware vs warranty.
Anyway, any thoughts or advice would be gratefully received.
Thanks all.
Phil :good:

Definitely buy the Exynos International version of the phone. I live near Los Angeles and plan to purchase the international version as well because it has no bloatware. It will be my first purchase of an international unlocked phone. I'm on AT&T but my understanding is that T-mobile rocks in Los Angeles. You can't go wrong with AT&T or T-Mobile, but I would lean toward T-Mobile if I were you, they are really kicking butt right now.
The exynos version of the phone will have better battery life by just a bit and it will be only slightly faster. They both have trade-offs, but in the end, it doesn't make a big difference, just get the international version, which is what all of us Americans want. I don't know about the warranty, you might have to ship the phone off for that.

if you buy one in the UK, make sure you make a few phone calls before you move.
European Samsung phones usually refuse to accept US SIM cards unless you make a phone call for a few minutes using a European SIM.

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if you buy one in the UK, make sure you make a few phone calls before you move.
European Samsung phones usually refuse to accept US SIM cards unless you make a phone call for a few minutes using a European SIM.
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That's a very good point! I remember reading about this with my old Galaxy when it said that it locked it to the country where the first phone call was made.
But would this possibly present problems? If I made a few calls with my Vodafone sim, would that then mean that it locks it to UK networks and makes a T-Mobile USA or AT&T sim incompatible?
And bands-wise, they're all good to go, right? There's no reason a local US sim wouldn't work 100% in that model? And the processor doesn't make a difference? Just wondering why they bother to put two different processor types in the phone otherwise?

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Definitely buy the Exynos International version of the phone. I live near Los Angeles and plan to purchase the international version as well because it has no bloatware. It will be my first purchase of an international unlocked phone. I'm on AT&T but my understanding is that T-mobile rocks in Los Angeles. You can't go wrong with AT&T or T-Mobile, but I would lean toward T-Mobile if I were you, they are really kicking butt right now.
The exynos version of the phone will have better battery life by just a bit and it will be only slightly faster. They both have trade-offs, but in the end, it doesn't make a big difference, just get the international version, which is what all of us Americans want. I don't know about the warranty, you might have to ship the phone off for that.
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Thanks - this is really helpful. Good to know TM are good there as had heard a few stories about bad coverage.

it's the opposite.
unless they changed it just for the note 7, you have to use the phone in the UK before you can use it in the US.
here's a quote from an article regarding the region lock in the S7 and S7 edge:
its box will be sealed with a sticker reading "European SIM card only."
The tab below this sticker explains how and why, albeit in tiny and rather verbose script. Essentially, in order for your unlocked European GS7 to be fully unlocked, you first need to make a total of five minutes worth of phone calls using a European SIM. If you don't do this, and try to use it with a SIM from outside of Europe, it won't connect to the network.
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this is to prevent shops from selling European phones in the US.
the unlocking method is so that people moving outside Europe after buying a phone can continue to use it.

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it's the opposite.
unless they changed it just for the note 7, you have to use the phone in the UK before you can use it in the US.
here's a quote from an article regarding the region lock in the S7 and S7 edge:
this is to prevent shops from selling European phones in the US.
the unlocking method is so that people moving outside Europe after buying a phone can continue to use it.
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Got it - just been reading up on it. Thanks for this.
Well, that all looks simple enough. Shouldn't be an issue.
In fact, my only fear is warranty now. If I smash or crack it (which I will try not to obvs, but heaven forbid, it happens), I may be spannered.
I doubt my insurance will cover it if it is an international model and Samsung look like they don't do international warranties.
That's the only thing stopping me sitting here pressing 'order' when I'm on the verge of it.
Also, I wonder if Samsung Pay will be affected, If maybe, somehow, that's region specific.
It's a big risk.. Eeek!

Screw it, I've ordered.
So just to clarify - the bands on the international (UK) unlocked version will be compatible with ATT/Cricket and T-Mobile?