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Live/Work in 4G, 4G soon, or 3G nework?

Hey future Evo owners. A lof of talk has been going around to say that the phone is not worth it unless you live in a 4G area, so I was curious if you guys live in a 4G area now, in an area that will soon be 4G (like NYC and LA this summer), or in a 3G area. I could not find how to make a survey, so I am just going to post the question...
I am in a 4G soon area.

Sprint posted that the Orlando Florida area will be getting 4G by end of summer

I don't live or work in a 4G area, however it's only about 25 minutes away (Tacoma, wa) so whenever I go to the "Big City" I'll have 4G.
Well worth it to me.
It'll probably bleed down here soon enough anyway.

the huge 4.3 screen is worth it! your eyes will thanks you!

Portland, OR resident here... the city where it all started
4G coverage here should be quite good since WiMAX has been live the area for ~1.5 years or so.

Live in Atlanta, so I'm covered with 4G. Pretty excited.

I go to school in a 4G area 9 months out of the year, but right now I'm stick in a town that probably won't get 4G for quite some time. Honestly, I doubt I will ever use it outside of showing off to friends thanks to campus wifi and 4G's terrible signal penetration.
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In Oklahoma with 3g until next month when I am moving out to Vegas 4g all the way.

StammesOpfer said:
In Oklahoma with 3g until next month when I am moving out to Vegas 4g all the way.
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Congrats dude, I lived in vegas for awhile, I miss it :/
I'm in phoenix, no 4G here(i know, 5th largest city in the US or something and no plans even, wtf.

I was surprised to find 3 cites in North Carolina have 4G coverage. Not exactly disappointed though...

I wanted the Evo for the phone, and couldn't care less about 4G until I realized last night that I have Clear coverage at work and am on its border at home! Now I'm completely overwhelmed!
I can't wait until tomorrow!

[Q] When will I get 4G?

Okay so my Verizon friends are all excited (rubbing it in) that metro New Orleans is getting the LTE network soon.
My question is when will we be getting Sprint 4G in New Orleans area? I have been quietly paying my extra $20 per month (2 EVO's) in hopes that we would sometime soon be getting 4g.
Why is Sprint so secretive about the roll-out areas/plan? I can't find anything online about when my area may possibly maybe have 4G.
Anyone know where I can find the plan for Sprint 4G?

I don't think there is anywhere to find it, but it'd be nice. In my area, we already have HSPA+ from T-Mobile and we're getting LTE from Verizon soon. If Sprint was rolling out 4G here I might stick with them longer.

there is no info out about it. I google every single day to see if I can find out when I'm going to get 4g here in milwaukee. I dont know how long I'm going to be able to hold or before I go back to verizon. I'm trying to stay positive...
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Yeah I'm watiting for it to hit Long Island. I have to go all the way to the MannHatt to get any 4G

That is so true, no info at all. I'm here in San Diego and nothing so far for Sprint. T-Mobile has their 4G up and running here.

Sprint used to have a 4G road-map page available, but they've taken it down. Modern business at its finest.

dwntwnall4u said:
That is so true, no info at all. I'm here in San Diego and nothing so far for Sprint. T-Mobile has their 4G up and running here.
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In San Diego...national city and parts around there..marimar and adjacent area and north country...but you are right...nothing in San Diego/downtown region...I have picked up 4g around seaport village...and around petco park..

Well in case you haven't noticed Sprint has issued any new 4g city updates in months for WiMax. This might lead to the rumor of them converting over to LTE sometime whenever. Why continue investing in something that obviously they might be switching over?

Wow, that was a thread resurrection.

SilverZero said:
Wow, that was a thread resurrection.
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lol....yea i just noticed how old the thread actually was, but a valid question that was brought up.

lmao. what an old thread. hahahaha. But getting to a fact! there IS NO 4G NETWORK WITH SPRINT! IT IS A JOKE! LTE WAS MORE POWERFUL THAN WIMAX WITHIN A WEEK OF LTE GOING ACTIVE! LMAO! THAT'S WHY SPRINT HAS ENDED THEIR 4G NETWORK COMPLETELY! JUST HAVEN'T POSTED IT YET BECAUSE THEY ARE AFRAID OF BEING SUED OUT THE ASS. LMAO. LTE AND SPRINT ARE NOW ONE. LTE IS THE LEADER!

runcool said:
lmao. what an old thread. hahahaha. But getting to a fact! there IS NO 4G NETWORK WITH SPRINT! IT IS A JOKE! LTE WAS MORE POWERFUL THAN WIMAX WITHIN A WEEK OF LTE GOING ACTIVE! LMAO! THAT'S WHY SPRINT HAS ENDED THEIR 4G NETWORK COMPLETELY! JUST HAVEN'T POSTED IT YET BECAUSE THEY ARE AFRAID OF BEING SUED OUT THE ASS. LMAO. LTE AND SPRINT ARE NOW ONE. LTE IS THE LEADER!
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I heard like 3 different Sprint employees about this so most likely Sprint is going LTE
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From what I understand, Sprint does not actually own any of their 4G network. They just have an agreeement with Clear to use their 4G network, so it really depends when Clear puts up more towers. If you are wondering if 4G is coming to your area, then you should ask Clear. I went to http://www.clear.com/coverage to see where the specific 4G coverage is. If it is in like "beta coverage" then it is light green. if you have light green near your area, that means that clear should be adding more towers in your area. If you travel to areas where the coverage is light green, then you should be able to connect, but it is not finalized.

Is it true that there are only a few locations that have 4G for sprint?

I was in a sprint store and the woman turned off my 4g switch and told me to not use it because we don't have 4g in my city. She said we only have 3g (crappy towers at that). Is it possible only larger cities have 4g? I've even attempted to find maps of where the 3g towers were in my city to see if I could test the connectivity but there's nothing offered. I'm honestly not sure what to do.

Check out sprint.com they have a map that overlays all there locations with 3g and 4g and what not. short answer to your question is yes. 4g is pretty limited to major US cities and even then not the whole cities. Over time they should get more coverage but we'll see how switching to lte over WiMax plays out.
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I live in the US - Raleigh NC area, they have pretty decent coverage here. But seeing as I just got my phone and Sprint about 3 weeks ago I can't talk about travel at a distance. Stormglove is right, check out sprints web site.

There are like 3 towers with wimax in the whole state of Arizona but Phoenix is the 5th largest city in the nation... Go figure
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I live in Louisville, KY. Apparently there are like 2 WiMax towers here. Connection is pretty poor though, even within range of WiMax I can get repeated connects and disconnects.

I dont get how they can even advertise 4g for Sprint. The amount of towers they currently have deployed probably dont even cover 10% of the usa i bet. Theres 1 tower in my state i beleive and its not even on the sqme island as me :-( they should advertise it as such.. "sprint, slow ass 3g and 4g thats probably not even within distance of a IBM missel" cause there 4g is a fricken joke
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I get great 4g in NYC 5MB/sec (in my house which is practically a dead zone for ALL phones >_>{LUCKY ME!!!!}) and 10MB/sec+ outside my house. hopefully LTE shows better results for the rest of sprint users. =(

Epix4G said:
There are like 3 towers with wimax in the whole state of Arizona but Phoenix is the 5th largest city in the nation... Go figure
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Us Mexicans can't build there.. we are not allowed in Arizona... duh!

I would just test it. I live in Prescott, Arizona, and according to sprint.com there isn't a 4g tower for miles and miles. However, on average I get 3 bars of 4g n a connection speed of about 12 mbps. So I would just flip it on every now and then and see
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Well in the case of when i was in Gurnee Ill around thanksgiving they actually lost 4g.
Thanksgiving 2010 they had 4g while i was down there, Thanksgiving 2011 they no longer had 4g the week i was down there...
Strange...

i get 4g in philadelphia... although as i go about town i'd say reception is spotty at best. if i'm in a good spot 4g blazes. if i'm in a car or certain areas, it's nil.
on another note, i think wimax is more or less dead on the water? there will be no more or few towers invested in by sprint since they want to be on lte by 2013. i could be recalling this info inaccurately; also since they piggyback off clear's wimax that doesn't mean clear will cease expanding their market - but i'm not sure about any of this, so take this post as speculation.

The Odom Project said:
I would just test it. I live in Prescott, Arizona, and according to sprint.com there isn't a 4g tower for miles and miles. However, on average I get 3 bars of 4g n a connection speed of about 12 mbps. So I would just flip it on every now and then and see
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I love that area and try to get up to oak creek canyon at least 3 or 4 times a year in summer
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Just go to clear.com and check the coverage map to see tower locations for your area since sprint is using them for their 4g coverage

raj7065 said:
Just go to clear.com and check the coverage map to see tower locations for your area since sprint is using them for their 4g coverage
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I wonder how accurate that map is, as i supposedly have 4g.
But its sparatic at best...
Although i suppose sparatic means coverage in that area.

I would consider sprint's 4g more limited in market area's meaning most major markets but not all. Im just outside nashville, tn (not a major market) and its here & have been since june of 2010 but coverage is more spotty than anything. I work in a all glass building and its up and down like a roller coaster trying to get it to stay connected vs switching to 3g. In my home it wont even connect to 4g but not a big deal to me. Personally i would have done some research to see which area's its in b/c paying $10 for premium data isnt quite getting your money's worth in a non 4g area.

To the comment about not covering more than 10 percent of the country. It is probably a lot less than that even. But, since 80 percent of our country lives in urban environments it doesn't matter.
You won't get any type of 4G when your cruising down I-70 in BFE. But, it works fine in St. Louis or Kansas City. Even on a bigger carrier you have a similar problem.

Does Sprint's 4G LTE Rollout Upgrade 3G Networks?

Once Sprint officially rolls out 4G LTE, will their 3G signal and data speeds improve?

lathamc said:
Once Sprint officially rolls out 4G LTE, will their 3G signal and data speeds improve?
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I hope so they turned the switch to a few more markets.
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lathamc said:
Once Sprint officially rolls out 4G LTE, will their 3G signal and data speeds improve?
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That would totally depend on the market you're in.
The teams that are going around putting in the 4G upgrade are doing multiple things depending on the market.
For example, I asked this question specifically to a sprint tech the other day when purchasing my S3.
I live in Miramar/Pembroke Pines Florida (Just West of FtLauderdale).
Signal here is great in some spots (near I-75 or the turnpike) and almost non-existent anywhere else. Hell the other day I saw the nice little "Hey you're now roaming" message on my S3 (I never saw that on my Evo, though the signal was horrible).
The tech said that they are in fact upgrading EVERYTHING in my area, 3G, normal phone cellular and 4G LTE (they said the wimax would not be upgraded of course). It took them a minute to find the info as they had to look it up for my specific area to see what is and is not being upgraded.
She mentioned specifically that it wasn't just upgrading the current towers, but putting in more to improve coverage in areas such as Plantation, pembroke and Miramar specfically.
So my advice is to either wait and see what happens, or try to contact sprint and find out about your area.

Opinions on sprints network and upgrading to the S4

So as I am sure many of you will be doing eventually. I and thinking about getting the S4. Only issue I am having is Sprints network. I am really debating in my mind if sprint is worth the cost considering they have one of the slowest networks. I have been thinking about going to t mobile since most of my phone use is in major cities in the US, with and occasional use in the Caribbean.
So will you be staying with Sprint or moving to a new network?
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I get good wimax and this phone does everything. S4 is S3 on steroids so I am thinking about passing for S5!

Mship said:
So as I am sure many of you will be doing eventually. I and thinking about getting the S4. Only issue I am having is Sprints network. I am really debating in my mind if sprint is worth the cost considering they have one of the slowest networks. I have been thinking about going to t mobile since most of my phone use is in major cities in the US, with and occasional use in the Caribbean.
So will you be staying with Sprint or moving to a new network?
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i've already moved from Sprint over to Verizon.. I live in nyc and for me Sprint just sucks out here, the 4g is like 3g and the 3g is like 1x. Lots of dropped calls too, so i flashed over to Verizon. Much better network IMO. T-mobile is good to my g/f has them, great 4G speeds.

It depends on where you spend most of your time. The Sprint network is great in some places and sub par in others. We dont have any official 4G service in KY and 3G is sometimes questionable, but I lived in TX last year and had great service. I occasionally get unofficial wimax here and have no interest in switching phones until LTE arrives. My wallet can't handle Verizon so if I switch service in the future it will probably be to prepaid or back to TMO.

I personally think you should drop sprint like a rock because I have sprint out here in Detroit and their empty promises of 4G for the last 2 years has been nothing shy of an insult, not to mention their signal sucks horribly out here and their 3G speeds rival that of Dial-Up, and that's if you're lucky enough to get data over the 3G connection at all...
T-Mobile also has one of the smallest 4G networks (from what I've heard, don't know how true that is), and I've heard of nothing but problems from the few people that I know that own a T-Mobile phone. My other friends with AT&T never have a single issue, and my other friend with Verizon also has absolutely no problems with them what-so-ever, so I'd say go with AT&T or Verizon - I know I will be as soon as my sprint contract is up in a year.

TMO's LTE network just launched I think so it's naturally almost nonexistent. Their HSPA+ network is more than enough though.
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For those with bad call & data connections, it'd probably be best to switch to a different carrier. As for me, I switched to Sprint from T-Mobile last year because T-Mobile had crappy call quality and connection problems. Fortunately, Orange County has really good 4G WiMax coverage and speeds (my 4G WiMax is faster than my friend's at&t LTE speed on his Note 2) and we're due for 4G LTE in a month or so.

New York City is an active Network Deployment market that is well under way by Alcatel-Lucent. The only places where I wouldn't upgrade to an LTE device on Sprint are in areas where NV has not yet begun and won't begun for an another few months (and then it'll take a month or two to get the stuff up and running after they begin).
Look here to see what other people reported..
http://www.sensorly.com/
and look here for more info about Network Vision.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/1901-network-visionlte-new-york-city-market/

It depends on how strong the T-Mobile network is in your area. In mine, it isn't that good. I have this phone, s2, and I have a lte backup phone. My area does have lte coverage but it's not completely saturated yet. I have 4g lte at home and an area of one of my jobs. My best dl speed test with lte has been just shy of 4000 KB. There are a lot of if's to consider if switching to another carrier. Do your homework first before making a final decision. There's an app out there, I forgot the name, that shows the coverage area on a map with different carriers and modes. I'd suggest checking that out to gather more information. Here you go. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sensorly.viewer

Your question is very area dependent. I live in Pittsburgh PA there's no lte in my area yet but it's coming. My 3g/4g is awesome though, I rarely find myself running 4g because the 3g is so good. I will be getting the S4 but not right away, I'm gonna wait for the price to drop and development to pick up.

Thanks for all the responses. I think I'm going to stay with the S2 for at least 2 two 3 more months or so before making a switch. I want to see what sprint has to offer in my area of NYC.
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In my area Memphis, TN we have bad sprint coverage and i don't like it. Internet is very slow and sometimes calls don't come through

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For those with bad call & data connections, it'd probably be best to switch to a different carrier. As for me, I switched to Sprint from T-Mobile last year because T-Mobile had crappy call quality and connection problems. Fortunately, Orange County has really good 4G WiMax coverage and speeds (my 4G WiMax is faster than my friend's at&t LTE speed on his Note 2) and we're due for 4G LTE in a month or so.
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inland empire is terrible wish it was like orange county...
i travel to and from inland empire, orange county, SGV and Las vegas alot and inland empire is terrible which is were i am the most of the time...
was thinking of going to tmobile but worried about there coverage.. some people say its good but others have nothing but problems.. wonder how there service is away from the major cities.. Verizon is the best but too much .. thinking of flashing phone to verizon prepaid but would only get 2-3mb download but still alot better than sprint in the inland empire.