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[Q]Use Evo on another wimax network ?

I just want to know is it possible to use evo 4g on another wimax network, outside usa ?
Or it's just a dream

There are wimax networks outside the US?
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quietpopcorn said:
There are wimax networks outside the US?
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Heh... Wimax is very popular, actually... Just not widely used by Phone carriers...

In macedonia we have wimax

Living in the greater New Orleans, LA area, the red-headed step-child to Sprint where 3G is slow, inconsistent, and 4G isn't even on the roadmap yet, I'd like to know if its possible to use my Sprint Evo's Wimax capabilities on Verizon's Wimax network, since they've had Wimax here since last year. It appears that the kind of roaming agreement between the two carriers includes phone and basic data, but not Wimax.
Any ideas?
If they had any brains they'd do a raoming agreement for that, too, getting them both much greater Wimax coverage much more quickly. But there I go again, expecting intelligence from a service provider...
Thank you for your time.

nYdGeo said:
Living in the greater New Orleans, LA area, the red-headed step-child to Sprint where 3G is slow, inconsistent, and 4G isn't even on the roadmap yet, I'd like to know if its possible to use my Sprint Evo's Wimax capabilities on Verizon's Wimax network, since they've had Wimax here since last year. It appears that the kind of roaming agreement between the two carriers includes phone and basic data, but not Wimax.
Any ideas?
If they had any brains they'd do a raoming agreement for that, too, getting them both much greater Wimax coverage much more quickly. But there I go again, expecting intelligence from a service provider...
Thank you for your time.
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Verizon does not have Wimax.. they use LTE

strohj said:
Verizon does not have Wimax.. they use LTE
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Sorry, I was made to understand that this was their Wimax. I'll take it from your response that though it may be a comparable service, it works in a different, non-compatible way.

I posted a question last week about how we could find out when we may be getting wimax in NOLA. Nobody seems to know so I am not holding my breath. Kinda sucks watching all these cities getting wimax and paying the $10 per phone every month without even a hint of when it may be coming.

tgrgrd00 said:
I posted a question last week about how we could find out when we may be getting wimax in NOLA. Nobody seems to know so I am not holding my breath. Kinda sucks watching all these cities getting wimax and paying the $10 per phone every month without even a hint of when it may be coming.
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Downtown NOLA has WiMax, Sprint just hasn't announced it yet. It is only in the downtown area though. I assume their probably still doing network testing or waiting for all of NOLA to be covered before they announce it to the public.
Found out about it yesterday and tried it out today. Was getting 5-6Mbps download and around 1Mbps upload earlier today. Though you won't find it on a Sprint coverage map (yet) you can see on clear.com what areas are covered in NOLA

Sprint Nexus Official

AHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.sprint.com/landings/lte/index.html?ECID=MA:AB:20120109:CES:GLX:NXS:300x1050

16GB version huh? The price will probably undercut the VZW version..

Then that explains the Sprint Nexus thread from yesterday. Too ouSprint advertises it with LTE even though Sprint has no LTE network yet and will be in at most 4 mid sized markets by July.
I just left Sprint for Verizon for the Nexus and LTE. I have banned Sprint for life becuase of thet horrible Wimax service. It will take Sprint several years to get LTE to the coverage level Verizon has today. And by then....

Sprint said that everywhere that has 3G will have LTE, and if I'm not mistaken, the roll-out is to be completed by the end of this year. However, where I live in CA, I have 4G everywhere anyway.

cool, but after whole Wimax rollout, or lack there of..... I'm sticking with Verizon.

Hakizi said:
Sprint said that everywhere that has 3G will have LTE, and if I'm not mistaken, the roll-out is to be completed by the end of this year. However, where I live in CA, I have 4G everywhere anyway.
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Lol. They will not have their LTE roll out completed by the end of the year.
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L3rry said:
Then that explains the Sprint Nexus thread from yesterday. Too ouSprint advertises it with LTE even though Sprint has no LTE network yet and will be in at most 4 mid sized markets by July.
I just left Sprint for Verizon for the Nexus and LTE. I have banned Sprint for life becuase of thet horrible Wimax service. It will take Sprint several years to get LTE to the coverage level Verizon has today. And by then....
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I feel the same way. Sprint is just too late getting into the game to be competitive for at least another 2+ years.
EDIT: Just noticed they are specifically saying it will come with Google Wallet...

These talks of being late to the game are absurd. Sprint was first with 3G, first with 4G, and will be first with LTE-Advanced. Just because they didn't cover where you live doesn't mean tons of people weren't covered.

I thought the agreement was already made for Sprint to utilize Verizons LTE as they do 3G now?

Hakizi said:
These talks of being late to the game are absurd. Sprint was first with 3G, first with 4G, and will be first with LTE-Advanced. Just because they didn't cover where you live doesn't mean tons of people weren't covered.
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not absurd. If they want to compete with Verizon, they better damn well compete, not just be first to do something then allow Verizon to blow by them like they're standing still.

They are competing. That's why they're going to be rolling out their LTE network so fast. http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/07/sprint-converts-its-cdma-network-to-lte/?m=false

Hakizi said:
These talks of being late to the game are absurd. Sprint was first with 3G, first with 4G, and will be first with LTE-Advanced. Just because they didn't cover where you live doesn't mean tons of people weren't covered.
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Verizon LTE rollout begins: December 2010.
Sprint's LTE rollout begins: Mid 2012.
I'd say that's pretty late considering Verizon has LTE in like 190 cities right now.

Sprints rollout already began, and you act like Sprints been stuck on 3G since then. They haven't, we've had 4G for years.

Hakizi said:
Sprints rollout already began, and you act like Sprints been stuck on 3G since then. They haven't, we've had 4G for years.
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Dude, I've had Sprint for over 4 years. Now I have Verizon. Compared to the overall coverage and consistent network speeds, Sprint BLOWS.

Yeah well i was a total Sprint "fanboy" for quite a while... was a customer since 2000 until last month.
After putting up terrible 3g speeds for years and no Wimax in my area (Buffalo, NY) on my Evo 4G(paying an extra $15 a month for having a 4G phone), and a Nexus S 4G, and then an Evo 3D.... i finally had enough.
Verizon has been fantastic and i don't see any reason to go to Sprint at any time in the foreseeable future.
BTW, i'm not arguing, Sprint is probably great in some areas. That was a bit of venting, from all the years of crap on Sprint in Buffalo, NY. lol.

Just ditched Sprint for the Verizon Nexus. I'll totally consider going back to Sprint in another 19.25 months if this whole network vision thing actually plays out like they say it will.

Hakizi said:
These talks of being late to the game are absurd. Sprint was first with 3G, first with 4G, and will be first with LTE-Advanced. Just because they didn't cover where you live doesn't mean tons of people weren't covered.
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I am pretty sure we still don't have 4G in Greater Metro Detroit area with Sprint, where as Verizon' LTE was launched later than Sprint's WiMAX and already covered the area pretty well...

RacingManiac said:
I am pretty sure we still don't have 4G in Greater Metro Detroit area with Sprint, where as Verizon' LTE was launched later than Sprint's WiMAX and already covered the area pretty well...
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As I said earlier, just because you don't have it doesn't mean other people don't.

Sprint's marketing campaign has a Popeye influence: "we will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today."

Hakizi said:
Sprints rollout already began, and you act like Sprints been stuck on 3G since then. They haven't, we've had 4G for years.
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You've had WiMax in very limited capacity with very little real-world availability since mid 2010. That isn't "years" of having 4G.
Look at it whatever way you want, Sprint is never going to be able to keep up or roll out LTE as fast as Verizon. They don't have the money to do it. They're talking about their first markets (only 4) in "mid 2012". And it will require all new devices because its not compatible with current WiMax ones. They would have to launch 100's of markets in 2012 to match Verizon.

(Q) Sprint - When will 4g/LTE finally be available

So i've been paying an additional $10 a month per line on my phones with 4G capabilities. Initally I had the OG EVO, 3D, and now Epic Touch. Its been well over a year probably close to two and I still dont have 4G not that this is something I need but it is something ive been paying for.
I dont live in some rural area (San Diego) so I dont see why they are lagging. Maybe this whole transition from 4G to LTE but that change was fairly recent.
Of couse when you call sprint they are not going to give you any time frame.
So I guess im stuck still paying the additional $10 on each line for a service I cannot access where I live and havent since day one.
Oh well, hopefully once LTE gets going SD will be one of the first to run it.
Anyone with some inside info care to provide some good news?

Sprint now defines that $10 as a smartphone surcharge and applies it to anything that runs iOS, Android, Bby, or WinMo 4g or not, although I don't think sprint has any current smartphones that aren't 4g.
You would've been better off to fight the 4g battle when the evo came out IMO.

TerryMathews said:
Sprint now defines that $10 as a smartphone surcharge and applies it to anything that runs iOS, Android, Bby, or WinMo 4g or not, although I don't think sprint has any current smartphones that aren't 4g.
You would've been better off to fight the 4g battle when the evo came out IMO.
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True..
At the time when the EVO came out I believe was the only 4G phone they carried so I guess was under the impression the charge was for 4G but I do see it has changed to a general charge for smart phones.
So I guess at this point its just a waiting game.

Techincally the evo was out first, but idunno where you lived, but the Epic was available first here due to false demand scams by HTC... either that or they made them one at a time. Seriously didnt you get enough of this topic in the evo forums?? I know we got sick of it in the Epic forums...

http://s4gru.com/ I found this site online, not sure how accurate their information is, but good to read through.

Al major markets se supposed to have LTE by the end of 2014 but we've all been hearing these ETAs for years with 4G so I wouldn't count on either. I'm in Milwaukee WI and have head we will have 4G by 2011.. never happened lol
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Sprint confirms LTE phones will feature unlimited data.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/03/sprint-lte-unlimited-data-everything-plan/
Also, see the link in my signature.

tylerjames09 said:
Al major markets se supposed to have LTE by the end of 2014 but we've all been hearing these ETAs for years with 4G so I wouldn't count on either. I'm in Milwaukee WI and have head we will have 4G by 2011.. never happened lol
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I live by eau claire wi..... I have no hope for lte....
Got AOKP?

I'm in SD too and we're supposedly in the second list for the rollout which should start sometime soon...
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Bear gri11z said:
I live by eau claire wi..... I have no hope for lte....
Got AOKP?
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im near Milwaukee and I have less hope than you. I know Clear has been putting 4G towers in milwaukee and madison, but I have yet to pick up a 4G signal.
4G LTE...not happening.

Keep in mind, Sprint's 4G LTE is their own, with their own network, own buildout, and own spectrum.

I have read in several places Q3 for L.A. and Orange County and Q4 for San Diego so its safe to say before Christmas you will be rocking LTE
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Best answer to sprint lte is 3 years before most places fully see it. Hell I have been in a wimax test arear for over 2 years and at a sprint store I heard a salesman tell a customer there was no 4g at all but when it gets here it will be awesome. When sprints own staff has no idea 4g is even in their own service area how can I even trust them to put towers up.
Good for you people in great big luscious data driven cities, sucks every where else

I have had several sprint employees tell me that here in Virginia it should be within 2 years.
I have a question of my own. I have had a few people tell me that when LTE comes around we will have to have new phones because the hardware like in the Epic Touch will not work on LTE. Any truth to this?

dohchp said:
I have had several sprint employees tell me that here in Virginia it should be within 2 years.
I have a question of my own. I have had a few people tell me that when LTE comes around we will have to have new phones because the hardware like in the Epic Touch will not work on LTE. Any truth to this?
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Yes if you want lte you will have to get a lte capable phone..... Ie sgs3 HTC evo4g lte , etc .... The hardware in this phone will not work on lte . But until you get lte if you have 4g now there is no reason to change unless you're a phone junkie like me
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This summer I am guessing since that is when they are releasing the Evo Lte, Galaxy Nexus etc. Boston market looks like lte will cover almost the entire state, and if it's anything like how when the original htc evo launch, lte will most likely be already on in boston market.

Sprint 4G LTE is here!!

I looked at my notification bar and had full 4G bars. I couldn't believe it!
Edit: And full bars which I never got on regular 4G. I'm in San Antonio btw.
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Wow, things are looking up for Sprint. I left them months ago back when I had my EVO 3D. I could not stand terrible 3G and coverage.

That's a lot faster than some of the other Sprint LTE Tests I've seen. Probably not "live" yet, but testing. Enjoy it while it lasts.
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Hope I can lte here in marble falls... its a little bit away from Austin. at least a taste I don't need 33mbs at least 5 or so.
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chlehqls said:
Wow, things are looking up for Sprint. I left them months ago back when I had my EVO 3D. I could not stand terrible 3G and coverage.
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Well Sprint's LTE markets won't even be in the double digits until 2013. And a couple years after that to be "nationwide coverage". The vast majority of Sprint's customers will be on 3G for the foreseeable future.

martonikaj said:
Well Sprint's LTE markets won't even be in the double digits until 2013. And a couple years after that to be "nationwide coverage". The vast majority of Sprint's customers will be on 3G for the foreseeable future.
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Sprint it's supposed to be done with lte by the end of2013 where U get your info...that is every tower with 3g will have lte
It's not just Sprint doing the roll out it was broken into like 5 areas and Samsung ericsson lucent are working on it too....
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martonikaj said:
Well Sprint's LTE markets won't even be in the double digits until 2013. And a couple years after that to be "nationwide coverage". The vast majority of Sprint's customers will be on 3G for the foreseeable future.
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You don't know what you're talking about.

Not getting any LTE in Houston yet

Good speeds, but the ping is about 3 times what I see with LTE on VZW

Smokeey said:
That's a lot faster than some of the other Sprint LTE Tests I've seen. Probably not "live" yet, but testing. Enjoy it while it lasts.
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I haven't seen anyone else talking about the Sprint LTE. Have they just been testing it in different areas or have you seen official Sprint tests? I googled, but couldn't find anyone else talking about it. I'd be interested to see what other people's experience with it was, i.e. if it has been improving, signal strength, etc.
And sadly it lasted less than an hour. Luckily I caught it. But everything was extremely fast. It was awesome. If LTE gets full bars in my house I might consider getting rid of my internet...

Epix4G said:
Sprint it's supposed to be done with lte by the end of2013 where U get your info...that is every tower with 3g will have lte
It's not just Sprint doing the roll out it was broken into like 5 areas and Samsung ericsson lucent are working on it too....
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milan03 said:
You don't know what you're talking about.
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And why don't I? Show me their national WiMax coverage that they rolled out in the last 2 years.... right, it doesn't exist. Same will be for LTE. Sorry, but just because Sprint says they're going to roll it out by the end of 2013 doesn't mean anything to me or any other slightly skeptical person.
Believe me, I'm pulling for them. I'd love to see Sprint step it up big time and challenge AT&T and Verizon's LTE efforts, but I find it hard to believe that Sprint will ever be able to catch up. Even if they completely covered their 3G network with LTE in that time (which they just can't physically/monetarily do), they won't be catching Verizon or even AT&T by that point.

Lol right sprint won't do it everyone forgets clear was the primary doing the rollouts and yeah. The BOD wants this to happen I am sure they will make sure it happens by the deadline or before and then once that is done they can hopefully jump it down to the 800mhz band as well. I think it will and if not 24 months from now I will move on but there are more posts of LTE then I saw of WiMAX when that started.
Not to mention other cell companies that work with sprint well one anyways atm is also helping.
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derekwilkinson said:
Not getting any LTE in Houston yet
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Neither am I
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Hows the signal in house or in building
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martonikaj said:
And why don't I? Show me their national WiMax coverage that they rolled out in the last 2 years.... right, it doesn't exist. Same will be for LTE. Sorry, but just because Sprint says they're going to roll it out by the end of 2013 doesn't mean anything to me or any other slightly skeptical person.
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When Sprint saw the writing on the wall for WiMax, they did the smart thing and stopped investing in it.
Good for them. They instead began their LTE preparations along with beginning their Network Vision deployment. They accelerated their 800mhz refarm.
Believe me, I'm pulling for them. I'd love to see Sprint step it up big time and challenge AT&T and Verizon's LTE efforts, but I find it hard to believe that Sprint will ever be able to catch up. Even if they completely covered their 3G network with LTE in that time (which they just can't physically/monetarily do), they won't be catching Verizon or even AT&T by that point.
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Sprint has never been able to compete on coverage - 4g or otherwise. Hell, their native CDMA network is smaller than T-Mobile's network. That said, Sprint has a big ol boatload of spectrum, which means they can continue to provide unlimited data (or eventually, faster speeds) far longer than their competition can.
Now, I'm a T-Mobile customer as well as a Sprint customer, and was about to drop my Sprint line for a prepaid line, but Sprint (and T-Mobile) are on the upswing and I very much like the progress they're making.

ckoadiyn said:
Lol right sprint won't do it everyone forgets clear was the primary doing the rollouts and yeah. The BOD wants this to happen I am sure they will make sure it happens by the deadline or before and then once that is done they can hopefully jump it down to the 800mhz band as well. I think it will and if not 24 months from now I will move on but there are more posts of LTE then I saw of WiMAX when that started.
Not to mention other cell companies that work with sprint well one anyways atm is also helping.
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I think Sprint could potentially do better than AT&T with their LTE rollout as AT&T seems to be going pretty slowly about it. However, VZW is lighting up more and more areas every few weeks, so I don't think anyone will catch them until VZW has started moving to another network standard. I have read that Sprint's LTE plans are very aggressive, so it could just be they are installing and testing the network in several large markets right now to turn on several cities all at once rather than just a small handful like AT&T did at the start.

reuthermonkey said:
When Sprint saw the writing on the wall for WiMax, they did the smart thing and stopped investing in it.
Good for them. They instead began their LTE preparations along with beginning their Network Vision deployment. They accelerated their 800mhz refarm.
Sprint has never been able to compete on coverage - 4g or otherwise. Hell, their native CDMA network is smaller than T-Mobile's network. That said, Sprint has a big ol boatload of spectrum, which means they can continue to provide unlimited data (or eventually, faster speeds) far longer than their competition can.
Now, I'm a T-Mobile customer as well as a Sprint customer, and was about to drop my Sprint line for a prepaid line, but Sprint (and T-Mobile) are on the upswing and I very much like the progress they're making.
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Interesting theory, but Verizon and even ATT will complete their rollout before Sprint does. So by the time Sprint gets to enjoying LTE across the network, Verizon and ATT will be looking at deploying VoLTE.
They can have buttloads of spectrum, but they don't have the resources to compete with rollouts or to to advance in a timely manner. They will always be playing third base.
Heck, MetroPCS rolled out LTE before them (Verizon too, for that matter).

I managed to get a weak signal in parts of the KC metro, probably coming from the area around the Sprint Campus in Overland Park. I may drive closer later today and see what kind of speed I can get.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1653400
looks like alot of towers are becoming live pretty quickly. there is my thread from yesterday on it.

adrynalyne said:
Interesting theory, but Verizon and even ATT will complete their rollout before Sprint does. So by the time Sprint gets to enjoying LTE across the network, Verizon and ATT will be looking at deploying VoLTE.
They can have buttloads of spectrum, but they don't have the resources to compete with rollouts or to to advance in a timely manner. They will always be playing third base.
Heck, MetroPCS rolled out LTE before them (Verizon too, for that matter).
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Any word from those companies on when their current coverage will be covered in LTE?
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Does Sprint's 4G LTE Rollout Upgrade 3G Networks?

Once Sprint officially rolls out 4G LTE, will their 3G signal and data speeds improve?

lathamc said:
Once Sprint officially rolls out 4G LTE, will their 3G signal and data speeds improve?
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I hope so they turned the switch to a few more markets.
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lathamc said:
Once Sprint officially rolls out 4G LTE, will their 3G signal and data speeds improve?
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That would totally depend on the market you're in.
The teams that are going around putting in the 4G upgrade are doing multiple things depending on the market.
For example, I asked this question specifically to a sprint tech the other day when purchasing my S3.
I live in Miramar/Pembroke Pines Florida (Just West of FtLauderdale).
Signal here is great in some spots (near I-75 or the turnpike) and almost non-existent anywhere else. Hell the other day I saw the nice little "Hey you're now roaming" message on my S3 (I never saw that on my Evo, though the signal was horrible).
The tech said that they are in fact upgrading EVERYTHING in my area, 3G, normal phone cellular and 4G LTE (they said the wimax would not be upgraded of course). It took them a minute to find the info as they had to look it up for my specific area to see what is and is not being upgraded.
She mentioned specifically that it wasn't just upgrading the current towers, but putting in more to improve coverage in areas such as Plantation, pembroke and Miramar specfically.
So my advice is to either wait and see what happens, or try to contact sprint and find out about your area.