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Am I making a mistake?

I have been carrying the JJ around without a case now for over a week. It fits perfect in my shorts pocket, jeans pocket and in my suit coat so I just go without the case. I have the unit closed so the screen is protected and I am careful to not put keys or coins in the same pocket.
Do you think the JJ will hold up without becoming worn looking? Is anyone else doing the same thing?
I have had a ton of pda's, Palm, Sony, HP, Imate and I have always used a case but until I see one that doesnt add so much thickness to the unit I plan on just carrying it without a case. I hope I am not making a mistake. If the screen wasnt covered I would not be debating this.
BTW, I have a proporta case, very similar to the one sold for the JJ, I bought it for my old HP 6315 and it is nice and well made but THICK and adds way to much to any PDA. I hope Vaja makes a thin case but unfortunately it seems they do not make super thin cases anymore. They did years ago for the Sony Clie that had a rotating screen. It was great but more recent cases by them for example for my Ipod is too thick in my opinion.
Interested to hear your thoughts.
Darrin

I think it is a mistake. After the case for my previous pda broke I carried it without a case for a while, and a lot of accidents happened.
First of all, things fall out of pockets. Ok, if you have the right kind of pocket on a garment that is the right kind of fit, it may not in all likelihood, but with a $1000 gadget, I am not taking a chance.
Second, I always find things in pockets get banged around more. Things attached firmly to my belt don't.
When sitting down, it is hard to take it out of the pocket. So, you may decide to take it out before you site down and put it on the table. Then you are likely to forget it, or just go get a napkin at the Starbucks for 2 seconds. Sometimes it takes only 2 seconds.
Without a proper and definite place to put it (like a case on your belt) you are likely to put it in this pocket or that pocket one time or another. Just put it in your shirt pocket for a minute as you are gathering your things to get out, then bend over to tie your shoes. Happened to me more than once (although I still believe it was a subconscious attempt to break the old one to justify the new one).
I also think the proporta (or PDAir, or some other names, they all seem to be the same) book case is clumsy and thick, so I got the pouch case until a better choice comes out. Vaja is bound to make one.

Thanks for your thoughts, you make a lot of sense. I agree a lot of accidents can happen since its not attached to my belt in a case.
I would love to see more pics of the pouch case you mention. Are there any on the internet? Once you receive it I would love to hear what you think about it.
Darrin

This is the info about the case:
http://pdaden.com/shop/cart.php?target=product&action=view&product_id=17394&substring=jasjar
As you see it is the same case Proporta is selling, and is made by PDAir.
Someone posted pictures of their proporta case, and it said PDair on it too. So I am sure they are all the same case, but this one is half price.
They are shipping from HK, and charged me $8 to mail it to US.

Great, thank you for the link. I had only seen one picture of the case, that looks perfect. Lot of pics to really see case. I purchased some other cases from that retailer in the past. I was already registered.
I ordered one. Thanks again. This case looks like the best choice for now, maybe can be only case. Fits so close to body in picture, not even noticeable under a shirt or suit jacket.
Darrin

Haven’t ordered mine yet but when I do, its naked for me
I have had and XDA II for just over a year now and apart from a screen protector it went naked too. I work in an office so it lives on my desk all day. I try to be careful not to put keys in the same pocket when travelling but I don’t get paranoid about it. If it scratches, oh well, it will get replaced as soon as something better comes along

Sena Cases Ultraslim for Captivate

Sena Cases just released their Ultraslim for the Captivate a couple weeks back, and I ordered one in black today. If you're looking for a high quality leather pouch, this one can't be beat.
It adds minimal bulk to the phone, adds great protection, and makes your phone look damn good. The interior of the case is lined in a velvety cloth that cleans your phone as well (nice for the screen). The cloth does leave some lint on your phone until the case is broken in a bit, but it's not that big of a hassle.
I had two of them for my previous phone, the iPhone 3G, and they were great. Even though the case is super thin, the seams of the leather are on the edges of the phone, so they provide great drop resistance. I dropped my iPhone many times with it on, and not a hint of damage whatsoever. They come fitting snug but loosen up a bit through regular use in about a week so that removal from the case is easy. I'll update once I receive mine, but I already know the quality of it will be outstanding.
I have been waiting for this case for some while now, as I have been using my phone mostly without a case since last August when I bought it. I have the Body Glove Mirage case (hard rubber skin), which is a great case as well, but it just adds too much bulk for my liking, so I don't use it unless I think I'll be doing something that could put my phone at risk. This case is great for those of you that like using your Cappy sans protection, but like having it protected when not in use.
The case comes in 5 colors: Black, Brown, Red, White, and Frappuccino. I had black and beige for my iPhone, and the colors are really durable as well, as the coloring did not wear throughout my use of either case. As with any leather though, the lighter colors are prone to staining if you get it dirty, but that's your fault if that happens. If you don't want to worry about the staining, get black for sure.
I can't post a link as I'm a new user, but just search Sena Cases on google and you can find it on their site easily.
Feel free to ask questions.

i do not like this type of case, it is a case for storage, not for daily usage ...

mengbo said:
i do not like this type of case, it is a case for storage, not for daily usage ...
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not for daily use. i'll have to keep putting in n pulling out atleast a few hundred times each day.

I don't see how taking an extra second to access my phone makes this case bad for 'daily use'. To me, that extra second is well worth the extra screen protection that I get when the phone is in it. For somebody with an active job, I can see where removing it would be a hassle. However, for a student like me, I don't find myself in situations where this case presents a problem, no matter how many times I need to access my phone. I also find that the case acts as a great place to rest my phone on a table, desk, etc.
My logic for using this case is simple. When I'm using my phone, I like the feel of a bare phone. Also, don't see a need for protection while I'm using my phone, as my attention is enough to keep mind not to drop it or let it be damaged. I find that my phone is most prone to damage when I'm not using it, as I don't devote my attention to it, which is where the case excels with protection, and why I personally prefer this type of case.

Some people, including myself, find just the opposite to be true. My phone is the in the least amount of danger sitting on my desk or in my pocket. It's when I'm taking it out of my pocket or actively talking on it that it slips and falls the most. Hence, I use a body glove case that will protect it from the lofty fall from my hand to the ground.

Yep, just like I said. The case obviously isn't for everybody, but is any case really perfect for everybody? For the way I treat my phone, the case is great.
The case just showed up today, and I exchanged my phone on warranty over the weekend for a faulty external speaker, so I have a completely new setup (already rooted and currently running Paragon 5.1). I might post pics of the case and how it looks with the phone (if I can as a new member?) if I get around to it this week, I have a couple of midterms to keep me busy this week.
Again, questions welcome.

Gumdrop Rugged Case

Has anyone used a ruggedized case? I bring my tablet EVERYWHERE and need something decent to protect it and was thinking about the Gumdrop cases. Any suggestions?

I use the Gform Extreme Sleeve 2 for extra protection. It says it fits the Ipad but I can confirm that it will fit the galaxy tab even with the stock book case on it. This is the best combination of protection and comfortable usability I have found.
It is kinda spendy but I bought both cases on ebay for less than retail and the samsung book case is definitely not necessary.
http://g-form.com/product/ipad-extreme-sleeve2/
If you don't think this case is beefy enough check out their torture test videos online.
http://g-form.com/technology/

Dose the gumdrop have a built in screen protector like the otterbox?
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streetrider nick said:
I use the Gform Extreme Sleeve 2 for extra protection. It says it fits the Ipad but I can confirm that it will fit the galaxy tab even with the stock book case on it. This is the best combination of protection and comfortable usability I have found.
It is kinda spendy but I bought both cases on ebay for less than retail and the samsung book case is definitely not necessary.
http://g-form.com/product/ipad-extreme-sleeve2/
If you don't think this case is beefy enough check out their torture test videos online.
http://g-form.com/technology/
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Always been curious about these cases that look like tires. Is there any advantage to this over an equally-thick material without the pattern? It seems to me like the tread on this would actually make it more likely to be damaged, not less. There's thin points (for puncture or pressure), and its easier to bend. And though there's probably a small difference in weight (though minimal; the heavier outer coating is larger than if it was flat), I can't imagine the tread makes it more fun to put into or take out of a bag. I've never used one though so I'm curious if there's something I'm not considering.

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Always been curious about these cases that look like tires. Is there any advantage to this over an equally-thick material without the pattern? It seems to me like the tread on this would actually make it more likely to be damaged, not less. There's thin points (for puncture or pressure), and its easier to bend. And though there's probably a small difference in weight (though minimal; the heavier outer coating is larger than if it was flat), I can't imagine the tread makes it more fun to put into or take out of a bag. I've never used one though so I'm curious if there's something I'm not considering.
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There's something you've not considered. I think the design helps with the shock displacement. Maybe not, but it's what I figure.
Have you watched the videos? This is one a$$ saving case. LOL
If you're as tough on your tab as in the videos you crazy, but then again, stranger sh!t has happened on accident.
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I have one and love it. I got one for my daughter's kindle, too. It does have a built in screen protector but I didn't install it for my case (affects screen responsiveness and feels crappy). The screen is protected from being recessed behind protruding, reinforced edges, so if i drop it it won't break anyway. Also, the case prevents accidentally hitting the power button, which used to drive me crazy. I take my tab to work everyday...get lots of compliments on the case. The material and ridges let me sit it on my couch or lap and not slide out of position. They also feel nice in the hands. I have an otterbox defender case for my evo4g. That's a great case, but I recommend this grippier type of material instead for a tablet. My phone case lets me slide in and out of my pocket easily, but i want traction with my tablet case. I also tried one of those folding tablet cases, but they seem ridiculous to me.

I have the white gumdrop case for my tab 10.1. As far as protection it is great. The corners are reinforced and it has a built in screen protector. You will have no doubt that your tab is very well protected inside this case. It also offers a LOT more grip and security in your hands. The only downside it that is easily doubles the thickness and weight of your tab. With this case on you can easily drop, throw, bang etc.. without even a thought of damaging your tab.

I love my Gumdrop! I wrote an in-depth review if you want to check it out, with more pictures and details then you can shake a stick at, lol.
http://romrepo.info/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=664

I got a gumdrop case shortly after I got my tab 10.1, Love it. The silicon cover is very thick especially on the corners, the frame is solid and fits on the tab well, the cover and frame fit together very solid, and the screen protector is actually pretty good. It makes the whole setup look very clean, and my touchscreen is still very responsive with the gumdrop screen protector AND a static adhesive screen protector on.
tldr gumdrop A+

slack04 said:
Always been curious about these cases that look like tires. Is there any advantage to this over an equally-thick material without the pattern? It seems to me like the tread on this would actually make it more likely to be damaged, not less. There's thin points (for puncture or pressure), and its easier to bend. And though there's probably a small difference in weight (though minimal; the heavier outer coating is larger than if it was flat), I can't imagine the tread makes it more fun to put into or take out of a bag. I've never used one though so I'm curious if there's something I'm not considering.
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Sorry for the delay, I am working on my capstone project for an EE degree and I have not been on the internets for fun since sunday.
I cannot say I would be able to point out any major advantages between the current design and one that is equally thick throughout, I would probably guess weight and cost. I believe the case is made of a fancy foam that stiffens on impact and does not seem like there is much of an outer coating over the foam but I have not yet cut into mine to find out.
The "tread" really has not caused me any problems getting this into or out of my backpack. The case is not frictiony like rubber but not so slippery that I am afraid to drop it when I carry it around either. I would say they found a happy medium between fly paper and a greased watermelon.
Overall I am very happy with this case and I recommend it to anyone who needs some heavy duty protection. I am even considering buying one for my laptop!

I got mine today left the screen protector off I have a zagg on mine super case I'm going to order one for the wifes Asus transformer
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I got my Tab last Fall and a Samsung Book Case shortly afterward. I had looked at the Gumdrop case and thought it'd be good to have, but didn't pull the trigger. That was a big mistake.
My son decided to grab the Tab from the kitchen counter & play games on it in the family room, but the dropped it on the tile floor before he got to the couch. I ended up with a $200 repair bill for a new screen. Needless to say, I had a Gumdrop waiting to be put on the tablet as soon as the repair was complete. This thing feels sturdy & strong. I just wish I had bought the case when I first saw it. I'd be $150 richer.

Got my gumdrop last week and really like it wasn't to sure bout the screen protector at first but its very responsive. Def worth the $.
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I ordered one yesterday and then saw this thread. I checked this forum for case info before but didn't see the gumdrop case mentioned. I found it googling rubber corners galaxy tab 10.1.
Great to see positive reviews. Two concerns I have are:
- could the rubber case interfere with the wifi antenna?
- could the battery/electronics get too hot in it under normal conditions?
I notice that when you put your hand on the corner near the power button, the back and front get warm with no case. I imagine the glass acts as a heatsink. If you feel around the warm corner it doesn't spread to the rest of the glass. When I get the case I'll see if the warm area seems bigger.
In the manual it recs use in the temp range O-45c. I searched to see if 10.1's have overheating issues and I see anything to indicate that.

I've had the Gumdrop case on my Tab for about two months now & I've never had overheating issues.

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I've had the Gumdrop case on my Tab for about two months now & I've never had overheating issues.
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Cheers, good to hear.
I just read somewhere that someone said that a silicone cover on their phone caused wifi loss, but others tested theirs and didn't have any loss.

I haven't noticed a decrease in my wifi reception. It works the same at home, the office, & in public spots like the coffee shop.
I don't think you'll notice any negative issues with the case other than added bulk & weight. Those are a fair trade for the better protection you'll get from the case.

Great, I'll do a proper test when I get it. I should try it with my Samsung Book Cover case as well.
I figure the thickness and security of it might make it easier to hold for long periods despite the weight. I like the idea of being able to grip it by the raised edge while carrying it, and I think I'll now have the confidence to bring it places and let other ppl actually play with it!
It looks like it might even survive a fall down stairs which even iBallz wouldn't

Hey NexVision
Which Gumdrop case fits your P7500? They don't list it on the site and it would suck to get a case and the buttons don't line up. Everywhere I look there seems to be a hundred different model #s (for each carrier, 4G and wifi only etc) and nothing seems to list which models are similar.

I want to chime in here with nothing more than +1 to everything positive mentioned here and No, I haven't had any of the problems asked about in this thread either.

OGP - 3D printer - Hybrid Kickstand case? Hoping for a 3D replica

Does anyone with an OGP in a hybrid kickstand style case (or something of similar size), have a 3D printer?
I'm looking to get a 3D printing of the phone in the case, so I can make an attempt at producing one or possibly many high quality belt holsters for this phone.
I cannot just use my own phone and case as there would be high humidity and high pressure involved. A plastic printing would allow me to "bone" or mold the leather for a precise fit.
I'm tired of the run of the mill cheap quality cases that abound on Amazon. After a few months, they all seem to start to fall apart!!! My amazon case had the belt clip break off after about 3 months. It was an extremely thin piece of rusted metal inside a material that I don't even think was leather. The leather(?) belt loops are at the point of failure as I write this.
I'd like to make a real leather case, with a quality belt clip that won't accidentally fall off your belt. I'd also put on some belt loops for some added stability on the belt (if needed). I'd most likely use a pair of neodymium magnets for the closure.
I cannot get started on the project until I have a "replica" that I can start working around, and a 3D printing seems like it would be the most accurate.
So, if anyone can help me out it would be appreciated!!! Just let me know the cost involved in making the "replica", as I have no clue as to the costs of 3D printing materials.
FYI...I have many many years experience in making/tooling/carving leather gun holsters, wallets, handbags, sandals, etc...
Thanks,
Andy

I have the Diablo case from jkase as well as access to a makerbot that we use to make parts for things in our lab (or just to play ). I would be happy to help out, but the main time consuming part is constructing an accurate 3d model of the phone and case. I can see if I ever have a bit of time to put one together, but since I don't do that often, it will take a while (I made a case for my lgog that I had before getting the ogp and giving it to my wife). I had been hoping to make a front cover to attach to my Diablo case and embed a magnet in it so it would work as a folio case, so if a 3d model can be made, that would help that project too.
I know someone a while back had been wanting a model made of the phone so they could print a case, but I don't remember who. I'll look back through the threads and see if they had any luck.
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CapnPez said:
I have the Diablo case from jkase as well as access to a makerbot that we use to make parts for things in our lab (or just to play ). I would be happy to help out, but the main time consuming part is constructing an accurate 3d model of the phone and case. I can see if I ever have a bit of time to put one together, but since I don't do that often, it will take a while (I made a case for my lgog that I had before getting the ogp and giving it to my wife). I had been hoping to make a front cover to attach to my Diablo case and embed a magnet in it so it would work as a folio case, so if a 3d model can be made, that would help that project too.
I know someone a while back had been wanting a model made of the phone so they could print a case, but I don't remember who. I'll look back through the threads and see if they had any luck.
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Great! Thanks!
If only you had access to a scanner. That would make the data entry easy

Pouch idea, but will it work?

The dimensions of this phone are 6.26" x 2.6" x .66" closed. I've been looking for a nice pouch to put it in rather than a case. I didn't find much but came across the idea to adapt a case for a different purpose to housing this phone. With that in mind here is a link to a case for eyeglasses that I think might work, what do you folks think?
https://www.lucrin.com/accessories/...ard-size-glasses-tan-real-ostrich-leather.htm

i bought a pouch for the fold and thats what i expect to use rather than a case.

I have use a microfiber sunglass pouch for my phone even if it has a case and screen protector. Helps keep pocket dust and stuff out and also serves as a cleaning cloth if needed. Been doing it for 6+ years now.

So I'm not Bat feces crazy, or at least not the only one who is bat feces crazy. I'm still sorting stuff out but I expect to be buying a nice high end leather pouch of some kind for this thing, ostrich, croc, etc. When you've spent this much money on a phone why not throw good money after bad?

Problem being when you're putting in or taking out of the pouch; sooner or later you'll fumble and it will tumble.
It's size, frequency of use and lack of sure handgrips almost guarantees it to happen.
Putting a tether on it might help, but a good case is mandatory to protect it.
B&H carries many different pouches and bags, their customer service is second to none. I use cargo and tactical pants to stash my 10+, works pretty well most times but only it's case has saved it from concrete hell.

blackhawk said:
Problem being when you're putting in or taking out of the pouch; sooner or later you'll fumble and it will tumble.
It's size, frequency of use and lack of sure handgrips almost guarantees it to happen.
Putting a tether on it might help, but a good case is mandatory to protect it.
B&H carries many different pouches and bags, their customer service is second to none. I use cargo and tactical pants to stash my 10+, works pretty well most times but only it's case has saved it from concrete hell.
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Huh... Probably good advice, I'm going to have to think about this one or at least measure my willingness to take the potential hit from going naked.

krabman said:
Huh... Probably good advice, I'm going to have to think about this one or at least measure my willingness to take the potential hit from going naked.
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Too many learned the hard way with the heavy near no bevel Note's when they fall with no case.
One case the owner's dog's tail whacked it off the table to patio oblivion.
Two layered protection systems generally work best ie hard polycarbonate shell with a semi hard urethane liner. Sort of slim pickens but the last two on this list here look promising.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/best-samsung-galaxy-z-fold-2-cases/?amp
Eye ball them carefully. You want some screen protection that will also double as false touch guards but not too excessive or it will impede usage.
Be careful that mic and speaker ports aren't covered.
At this price point these phones should have a hard tether point just like a camera...

not everyone is clumsy with smartphones. back in the day i use to use pouches all the time with big ass phones like the hitachi G1000 (google it) , the IBM Simon, and newer phones like the htc one max, and never had issues dropping it. lots of OG fold owners did not use a case on those phones and many had no issues.
sure some people are all thumbs with gadgets and that's why cases were made , but lets not post up that everyone drops phones because everyone don't.
matter of fact, my old school nexus 6 - i used a pouch with it, and still looks great all these years later...

Just a matter of time until fate shows you life isn't fair...

pouch
last couple days i've tried both of these cases and they are fine. i saw a cool looking case in the case thread i just picked up , but for now either of these are good for me.

Lowepro makes good gear. For a bare phone this is probably big enough as their internal dim specs tend to be generous. Belt or holster style mount with double lock velcro tabs that don't fail.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bh..._lp37225_protactic_phone_pouch_black.html/amp
A B&H rep can tell you if it work... they are the best.

I use a shocksock. Works well.

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I use a shocksock. Works well.
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Which model ? I've been wanting to a get a shocksock pouch for my fold 2, but they only make it for the fold 1.

The one for the Fold 1 fits the Fold 2 like a glove. Get that one!

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The one for the Fold 1 fits the Fold 2 like a glove. Get that one!
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Yes, I'm also using the Shocksock that I bought for my original Fold on the Fold 2 now.
Fitbag, a German pouch, is also very good, but exactly fits the device, so even a thin back cover will make the device circumference too large.
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last couple days i've tried both of these cases and they are fine. i saw a cool looking case in the case thread i just picked up , but for now either of these are good for me.
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Which make is the second, holster-like pouch?

Used Lowepro gear for over a decade. Holds up well.
You need a belt or horizontal strap to mount this. The double securing velcro fasteners stay put.
B&H... were the pros go. Massive inventory and no bs.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...oEBXJZAL73fi7xoCToIQAvD_BwE&lsft=BI:514&smp=y

Thank you! I will.

mickey878 said:
The one for the Fold 1 fits the Fold 2 like a glove. Get that one!
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Just got mine, and it really does fit like a glove, looks like it was made for the 2 instead of the 1

I was actually looking for something nice, ie real leather, that sort of thing. I do thank folks for their ideas and responses all the same, I may go to the sock if I cant find a nice ostrich leather or something similar.

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I was actually looking for something nice, ie real leather, that sort of thing. I do thank folks for their ideas and responses all the same, I may go to the sock if I cant find a nice ostrich leather or something similar.
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When I buy clothes I look for ones the will accommodate the phone and other gear;
BDU pants, and vests with chest pockets etc.
The phone gets it's own pocket... works well.