Is it normal for this device to lag when playing 3D games?
I understand that 3D games are quite resource intensive, but I expected better than this.
N.O.V.A 3 is almost unplayable, Modern Combat 3 suffers less lag than N.O.V.A but still a considerable amount, Mass Effect Infiltrator suffers huge lag spikes when multiple enemies are onscreen and even Monsters ate my Condo is lagging.
I am on stock touchwiz, not rooted. No custom kernel. Na-da.
Also, which may not have anything to do with this, the keyboard often lags in the messages (texting) app. Sometimes bad enough that I can watch the sentence finish itself. That's always fun, right?
Thanks in advanced to anyone who can give me any insight.
Know125 said:
Is it normal for this device to lag when playing 3D games?
I understand that 3D games are quite resource intensive, but I expected better than this.
N.O.V.A 3 is almost unplayable, Modern Combat 3 suffers less lag than N.O.V.A but still a considerable amount, Mass Effect Infiltrator suffers huge lag spikes when multiple enemies are onscreen and even Monsters ate my Condo is lagging.
I am on stock touchwiz, not rooted. No custom kernel. Na-da.
Also, which may not have anything to do with this, the keyboard often lags in the messages (texting) app. Sometimes bad enough that I can watch the sentence finish itself. That's always fun, right?
Thanks in advanced to anyone who can give me any insight.
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I know it will sound like a stupid question but can you make sure your power saving (from the statusbar widget) is not activated. I've notice lag on Nova Launcher while this was turned on even if I set the powersaving option not to affect CPU performance.
sp991 said:
I know it will sound like a stupid question but can you make sure your power saving (from the statusbar widget) is not activated. I've notice lag on Nova Launcher while this was turned on even if I set the powersaving option not to affect CPU performance.
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Thanks for a quick reply
And no, power saving mode is not on. I never activate this mode as every single task becomes extremely laggy D:
I would return this phone. This is no normal behavior. I played those game before rooting without a lag. I even downloaded torrent while playing without any lag. The phone heated up a little but hey it's a phone!
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liltitiz said:
I would return this phone. This is no normal behavior. I played those game before rooting without a lag. I even downloaded torrent while playing without any lag. The phone heated up a little but hey it's a phone!
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Thanks that's exactly what I was looking for; just some insight as to whether it's normal or not.
I'll look into whether I can get this sorted out. I've just gotta find the right way to get this covered by warranty or just pay a deductible for a new phone
Good thing I have an extended warranty!
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Has anyone here been able to set these up so they run smooth? N64oid has major slowdowns in Zelda and other resource intensive games. I am on HD reveloution where software rendering is disabled so its using the full PowerVR GPU. The Nexus has specs similar to the Galaxy S II and should not perform as slow as it is now.
Also in FPSE the analog sticks dont work and are not centered where you put you finger on the screen. Any ideas?
Also why does using the Microboes or bubbles live background lag the UI soooooo much.
I haven't used FPSE, but I've used n64oid quite a bit over the last few days. It's not 60fps but it's playable, depending on the game. That's not to say it's without bugs...
-Most games seem to randomly experience extreme slowdown and 3+ second hangs. This makes MarioKart and Starfox virtually unplayable at times.
-Sometimes it will sometimes completely freeze at these points of extreme slowdown, to the point where the game needs to be reset. This has gotten me into the habit of saving states FREQUENTLY.
-In Zelda OoT, the camera doesn't move at all in the courtyard of Hyrule castle, so you're effectively stuck at that point, since you can't see where you're going as soon as you walk off-screen. Obviously this isn't specific to the Gnex, but it's worth mentioning for the dev's information
I'm using a bone stock LTE 4.0.2 Galaxy Nexus.
Stadsport said:
I haven't used FPSE, but I've used n64oid quite a bit over the last few days. It's not 60fps but it's playable, depending on the game. That's not to say it's without bugs...
-Most games seem to randomly experience extreme slowdown and 3+ second hangs. This makes MarioKart and Starfox virtually unplayable at times.
-Sometimes it will sometimes completely freeze at these points of extreme slowdown, to the point where the game needs to be reset. This has gotten me into the habit of saving states FREQUENTLY.
-In Zelda OoT, the camera doesn't move at all in the courtyard of Hyrule castle, so you're effectively stuck at that point, since you can't see where you're going as soon as you walk off-screen. Obviously this isn't specific to the Gnex, but it's worth mentioning for the dev's information
I'm using a bone stock LTE 4.0.2 Galaxy Nexus.
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Under the development options in android see if there is a "Force GPU rendering" option and if there is check it and let me know if there are any changes.
I notices if you disable fog and stretch to fix screen on N64oid you see a HUGE performance increase.
Im hoping the dev for FPSE fixes the analog issues soon.
Like others, it seems to depend on the game. Metal Gear Solid is virtually unplayable on psx4droid, and doesn't even load on FSpe. Intelligent Qube works fine on FPse but doesn't load on psx4droid. As for N64oid, MarioKart actually works fine for me outside of a few audio skips here and there, it's pretty responsive. F-Zero X works flawlessly.
One thing I find troubling though is that when I hook up the MHL to HDMI adapter games that once played fine take a noticeable hit in performance. MarioKart becomes unplayable once I hook up the adapter. Does anyone know if the adapter demands more resources (GPU/CPU/RAM/etc)? I would imagine it does since the phone doubles the output instead of redirects it (phone display and MicroUSB out) but I also am not technical enough to really know how this stuff works. It's crummy, cuz playing the N64 and PSX emulators on my projector with a PS3 dual shock controller was one of the major things I was looking forward to with this phone. I see videos on youtube of people doing this on their GSII and it works fine. What gives? Is it ICS?
No its because the gn is pushing 2.4x more pixels than the gs2 and a less powerful gpu.
1280x720 vs 800x480
dwang said:
No its because the gn is pushing 2.4x more pixels than the gs2 and a less powerful gpu.
1280x720 vs 800x480
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That has yet to be fully determined. Some ppl hv smoother frame rates than other on the same game but different rom. Though it could be software and hardware related. We need to reach out to the dev (yongzh) and let him know
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Under the development options in android see if there is a "Force GPU rendering" option and if there is check it and let me know if there are any changes.
I notices if you disable fog and stretch to fix screen on N64oid you see a HUGE performance increase.
Im hoping the dev for FPSE fixes the analog issues soon.
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Forcing GPU didn't seem to make a difference, and actually seemed to crash some emulators. I've kept stretch off because N64 games aren't widescreen, and toggle fog made a VERY slight difference.
Mupen64Plus seems to be running a tad faster than n64oid. just set autoframe skip and max frame skip to 5. BUT the on screen controls keep disappearing and are rather tiny.
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Mupen64Plus seems to be running a tad faster than n64oid. just set autoframe skip and max frame skip to 5. BUT the on screen controls keep disappearing and are rather tiny.
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You're right, it's definitely running faster than n64oid. But the disappearing controls are obnoxious, and I think the emulator itself needs a little bit of polish. For example, if you lock the screen and wake it back up, it closes the emulator completely. Same if you get a call or something.
Has fpse implemented sixaxis controller app yet? Or using sixaxis or usb contoller period?
Crazy world, ay?
I've been using PS3 dualshock via sixaxis for FPse just fine since I've had the phone. Just have to map it out in the settings.
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I've been using PS3 dualshock via sixaxis for FPse just fine since I've had the phone. Just have to map it out in the settings.
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Ok. I tried recently and it did not work completely. Any suggestions where i might've messed up?
Crazy world, ay?
Use the free sixaxis pairing app to assign the bluetooth address of your phone to the controller (requires hooking your controller up to your computer with a usb cable). Once you've done that, use the paid sixaxis app to actually pair the controller to the phone via bluetooth. Then, within FPse go into settings, input, hardware keys, and just map the buttons. I know you've probably done some of the beginning of that already, but I'm not really sure where you're having problems.
Hey there
Ive been playing with my new One X for a few days now and really like it, luckily i dont think i ahve experienced any defects so far which is always good however recently i decided decided to install really graphic intense games like GTA 3 and Shadowgun THD to really test the Tegra3.
While the game impressive and are playable i cant help but be a lil underwelmed by the One X's rendering of these games. Theres often slow down with skips and jumps which is really jarring when playing games. Has anyone else played these games and experienced the frame rate issues?
The One X also gets really hot, almost making my hand to start to sweat..
Thanks!
Before launching the games, go into settings -ยป developer options, and tick the option to not keep background tasks. No probs at all then. After finished playing, untick again
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THanks for the tips, although it still seems to jump a bit. Maybe it will improve through software updates. im still on 1.26.
Yeah could be. I'm on 1.28 and shadowgun thd is super smooth with background tasks disabled
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Disconnect wifi and mobile data aswell
I just installed it today,was a bit laggy the first time but then i've turned of my wifi and bluetooth and worked like a charm.Version 1.28.
PS:You can also try to play Shadowgun,it's absoluthly amazing.
Good suggestions, thanks. Still iwsh there was a lil more FPS. But its still good!
Hey guys,
I was wondering if anyone uses FPse, the PSX emulator. I just recently purchased it and that damed thing killed my weekend. I was playing Metal Gear Soild the entire weekend trying to get the best performance etc. Looks like 'old software drawing' and Open-GL Blits mode or whatever works the best, but I want to rock Open GL. Once I turn it on, the performance plummets for me. Any suggestions on settings etc?
EDIT: Would a certain BIOS make a difference in performance? I'm using SCPH1002
Thanks,
--Marc
not sure about the bios thing, i have installed 1001. havent tried any games, need to find the psx stash, can't remember where i stored the few i kept to make an iso.
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downloaded it today cuz i read that it now finally supports skullmonkeys the best damn game i ever played in my life (appart form max payne cuz i really like the stories and the comics in max payne and the vidz in skullmonkeys and what not)
i was stunned how it works, no lag no nothing with a game 627MB big. i use scph1001 as he recommended and thats it. non of the tweeks in video settings do anything cuz the frame rate stays at 59-60 constant and the picture quality stays the same, not perfectly clear but decent.
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downloaded it today cuz i read that it now finally supports skullmonkeys the best damn game i ever played in my life (appart form max payne cuz i really like the stories and the comics in max payne and the vidz in skullmonkeys and what not)
i was stunned how it works, no lag no nothing with a game 627MB big. i use scph1001 as he recommended and thats it. non of the tweeks in video settings do anything cuz the frame rate stays at 59-60 constant and the picture quality stays the same, not perfectly clear but decent.
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If you download/install the Open-GL plugin, it looks way better, BUT, I've noticed a huge performance hit during cut scenes etc.
Never heard of Skullmonkeys.
EDIT: Oh crap, did the most recent update and it completely borked for me.. v0.11.46
tried opengl that he offered it was prettty laggy and the video quality was the same as before. tried libopenglplugin.so and it fc's.
sorry bat what is the word "borked" i don't mean it bad but i cant figure it out
z.coniglietti said:
tried opengl that he offered it was prettty laggy and the video quality was the same as before. tried libopenglplugin.so and it fc's.
sorry bat what is the word "borked" i don't mean it bad but i cant figure it out
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Hehe, 'borked' on urban dictionary just means it broke or messed up. How do you get these other plugins? I don't mind running it at the other video modes but I'd like to get the Open GL one working since it looks so awesome!
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Hey guys,
I was wondering if anyone uses FPse, the PSX emulator. I just recently purchased it and that damed thing killed my weekend. I was playing Metal Gear Soild the entire weekend trying to get the best performance etc. Looks like 'old software drawing' and Open-GL Blits mode or whatever works the best, but I want to rock Open GL. Once I turn it on, the performance plummets for me. Any suggestions on settings etc?
EDIT: Would a certain BIOS make a difference in performance? I'm using SCPH1002
Thanks,
--Marc
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Use ePSXe! It is much better!
Requires no setup in order to play games smoothly Give it a try
He's asking for settings for opengl graphics, he can run it fine on his normal settings, doesn't need a new emu.
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EDIT: Would a certain BIOS make a difference in performance? I'm using SCPH1002
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Difference by changing BIOS:
On boot screen text changes - sometimes Trademark logo, sometimes Copyright
Different menu for memory card management.
FPS lock ---
by last number in bios
0 - Japan NTSC --- 60FPS SCPH-1000, ...
1 - USA NTSC --- 60FPS SCPH-1001, SCPH-101, ...
2 - Europe PAL --- 50FPS SCPH-1002, SCPH-7502, ...
best BIOS for using is SCPH-101 - its newest bios from PS One console - much smaller and rounded corners
and also use NTSC-U game ISO
I've always used the 1001 bios for my PS1 emulators. I've used both FPse and ePSXe and FPse is honestly smoother for me. I have never messed with the performance settings and its always ran good. I played through all of Metal Gear Solid on my tablet with no issues.
Side note: I've been playing Final Fantasy 7 lately. I had forgotten how fun that game is.
friends of this great forum:
I'm happy with my S3 i747 upgrade to OS 4.1.1 so Jelly Bean, what I'm upset is that jelly bean in my favorite games such as Shadowgun and dead trigger deadzone apparently not compatible with Jelly Bean 4.1.1, because they appear as a blur shader sight difficult to play. I have sent letters of complaint both on facebook as MADFINGER Games website to see if these bugs solved. and idiots to this day have not corrected this problem graph the two games. I ask those who have upgraded to the S3 Jelly bean i747 4.1.1 if you have graphics problems as I have them, and if they have done their claims to the developers, as well as dead Shadowgun trigger deadzone are good games on our phones .
would be great if there was an application to correct the problems of the games graphics.
I thank you for your answers and comments.
Go to developer settings and check "disable hw overlays" before playing. This will allow you to play without the blur.
This is not an app issue, so complaining to the game devs will get you nowhere.
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Thanks for the help! I was just about to try a different room because of that error.
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*disable hw overlays* makes the phone use gpu for things instead of cpu which will make it slower and lag on highest settings. The best way is to download screen filter from app store and every time you wanna play Dead Trigger not Shadowgun just first start up the screen filter app, put it on 100% and viola. Fixed without speed decrease.
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Thanks, the speed filter app solved the problem, without leading to any speed decrease (which I noticed happened when i tried to play videos after disabling hardware overlay). However, I'm very curious, why does lowering the screen's brightness allow you to play the game without any artifacts or blur?
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Thanks, the speed filter app solved the problem, without leading to any speed decrease (which I noticed happened when i tried to play videos after disabling hardware overlay). However, I'm very curious, why does lowering the screen's brightness allow you to play the game without any artifacts or blur?
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I think there's something wrong with how the game is being rendered on our phones. For example it might just be triggering 2D rendering of the CPU and not use GPU at all. When you enable screen filter, it actually doesn't lower your brightness, it puts a shade on the screen which turns on your gpu... I am not an expert but that's my theory
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Today I just downloaded the game "Dungeon Hunter 4", an RPG that some of you may have heard. I saw a video on YouTube an Xperia Z playing the game flawlessly in what I think is in the highest graphic settings. But my problem is, the max video quality I can set is medium, and more annoyingly, IT STILL LAGS A LOT.
Is there something I did wrong? Stock, rooted. I don't know if this is an optimization issue or what, but considering how very similar the two phones are, how hard is it (or if it's even a problem) to optimize it for the ZL. I'm quite disappointed right now
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Today I just downloaded the game "Dungeon Hunter 4", an RPG that some of you may have heard. I saw a video on YouTube an Xperia Z playing the game flawlessly in what I think is in the highest graphic settings. But my problem is, the max video quality I can set is medium, and more annoyingly, IT STILL LAGS A LOT.
Is there something I did wrong? Stock, rooted. I don't know if this is an optimization issue or what, but considering how very similar the two phones are, how hard is it (or if it's even a problem) to optimize it for the ZL. I'm quite disappointed right now
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I dunno about yours but mine runs flawlessly. No tweaks. Stock Rom and kernel, rooted via doomlord method, and no changes in the setting after downloading.
Can you check the max graphic configuration you can set in settings? Mine only goes medium at the highest
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Today I just downloaded the game "Dungeon Hunter 4", an RPG that some of you may have heard. I saw a video on YouTube an Xperia Z playing the game flawlessly in what I think is in the highest graphic settings. But my problem is, the max video quality I can set is medium, and more annoyingly, IT STILL LAGS A LOT.
Is there something I did wrong? Stock, rooted. I don't know if this is an optimization issue or what, but considering how very similar the two phones are, how hard is it (or if it's even a problem) to optimize it for the ZL. I'm quite disappointed right now
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If ur rooted... download greenify from playstore(by oasis feng)...and greenify all the apps you don't want to run in the background(all apps including games as well except for messaging apps you'll get notifications from)
The less apps running in the background the better the mobile will perform while playing high end games
If you feel that I've helped you in any way,,please hit the thanks button
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Rumman Shaikh said:
If ur rooted... download greenify from playstore(by oasis feng)...and greenify all the apps you don't want to run in the background(all apps including games as well except for messaging apps you'll get notifications from)
The less apps running in the background the better the mobile will perform while playing high end games
If you feel that I've helped you in any way,,please hit the thanks button
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Yup, I already have greenify installed and running. The problem seems to be in the optimization of the game for my phone model (c6503). Not very sure though
JRBT24 said:
Today I just downloaded the game "Dungeon Hunter 4", an RPG that some of you may have heard. I saw a video on YouTube an Xperia Z playing the game flawlessly in what I think is in the highest graphic settings. But my problem is, the max video quality I can set is medium, and more annoyingly, IT STILL LAGS A LOT.
Is there something I did wrong? Stock, rooted. I don't know if this is an optimization issue or what, but considering how very similar the two phones are, how hard is it (or if it's even a problem) to optimize it for the ZL. I'm quite disappointed right now
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Dude. i play graphic hungry games a lot in my ZL with all settings maxed out. plays perfectly without any lags. May be a repair might solve your problem