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[Q] Snes Emulation woes - Latency and Emulation problems

Hello all.
I am having problems with emulation on my newly purchased xperia play.
I downloaded snesoid because I was recommended to get it by a friend *and apparently the internet is crazy about it*. When I tried playing Megaman X on it, there was very noticeable slowdown. The first stage *highway* ran at noticeably slower speeds than it did on the snes. It was playable, but felt sluggish. At first I was okay with this, but then I played it on my friend's phone just to test it out, and his was runninghttp://media.xda-developers.com/images/editor/menupop.gif it perfectly.
Does anyone know why that may be?
I also downloaded snes9x ex to test it out, and the app runs great! Problem with this app, unfortunately, is the VERY noticeable input latency. It makes platformers really odd to play on with.
I tried Seiken Densetsu 3 on Snesoid as well, and that game glitches out every conversation that comes up. The screen will flicker for a second. Very jarring.
Has anyone else experienced these kind of things with theirs, and if so, does anyone know a fix for this?
If this is phone specific, I am just going to return it since it only has been a day and just get a new one, but I want to make sure I can't do anything to fix it on my end before hand, this way I can at least learn something about these phones if there is a fix I CAN do at home, since I currently am a huge phone noob.

Something very interesting I just noticed.
Just tried Megaman X2 and X3 and those games run perfectly.
Color me confused.

Yea, SNES9x plays better with less glitches, but has noticeable button lag. Took forever for me to beat DKC, especially the mine cart stages.

Im sorry to hear about your problem mate but mine seems to run all of the games perfectly smooth. Ive had no such issues yet regarding the snesoid emulator.
If you feel strongly about it I would suggest trying out a new sexplay.

Also note the programs you have running in your running services log. Something there may be interfering with your gameplay. I can't seem to use Swiftkey X on my Xplay as it causes lag that kills the experience on nearly every game I play.
But the button lag is something you will have to deal with on any XPlay and SNES9x. Unfortunate, and hopefully will be fixed by the author at some point.

Is there button input lag with Snes A.D (free emulator on market) ?
Could someone test it for me ? I'm supposed to get the phone next week, and I chose it especially for emulation so I'd be disappointed if there are any issues with SNES games.

Have had not any issues with these games.
I use SnesOid and TigerSNES - both free.

same here,gensoid running silky smooth,fpse running perfectly fine,tiger arcade for th e most games also good,but imho useless cause no dip switch access or neo geo rom settings(tried that mame4all but no thanks,seems it support only legacy roms,don`t wanna convert all my roms for that program,the few that were running on mame4all were also laggy)
but snesoid(latest version) isn`t running good,as i stated in another thread.
for example super castlevania 4,it doesn`t matter if frameskip is on or off,set to manual or auto,it`s far away from running smooth,there is a slight stuttering when you look at the background as your character moves forward-also numerous other games..tried snes 9x or what is called,realized it doesn`t load any of my snes roms because it cant read .zip files,only .smc and even with .smc it won`t open some roms.i`ll try this tiger snes now

Hated SNES A.D. looking for a good emu right now too.

when u complain about noticeable input lag in snes9x, what kind of games are u playing? ive never really had any issues with it since its around a 10th of a second (tbh i doubt id ever of noticed it playing things like super metroid)
all of my games are in .zip files and ive never had any issues with the emulator at all, destroys snesoid imo. i do hope that the input lag is fixed, but overall i think its a much better emulator than anything else available.

I sure would like to try snes9x.... can't find it though! Little help?
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i noticed just earlier after i posted realizing i hadn't received an update in some time. It appears to have been removed from the market, odd considering that all his other emulators are still there and one of his main selling points was compliance with the gpl of snes9x (the reason it was free as opposed to his other emulators)
the website is http://www.explusalpha.com/home
Robert Brogalia is the devs name, check out his other apps, they all get fantastic feedback.

Oh my god! This emulator is amazing! Everyone get it. This should just come on the phone..... LOL
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u can change the dpi of the menus, turn off that shocking linear filtering that snesoid and all them use(i like me some retro blockiness) and it doesnt appear but when scrolling through lists thumb scroll works just fine.

Looks like I have to start over on Zelda, guess the saves are different from snesnoid. So worth it though.
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u just have to change the extention to the same one used in snes9x...if i recall snesoid uses .sav, snes9x uses .sma or something, i got all mine working so if u fiddle u should get it, afaik quicksaves are a no-go however, just the battery backup works.

Snesoid is based on the snes9x source anyway......
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if people are finding solutions that work better for them thats a good thing, i dont care if the source is the same, i find it to be a better emulator. i will say i initially bought all yonghz apps including n64oid.

Goping back on topic i just got myself a Play today, and i have major problems with games on gameboid, genesoid, snesoid theyw ill jump around and skip frames. I know why it's becuase it has frameskip set to 2 by default. If i set it to 0 then the audio produces an annoying stuttering and clicking. I just don't belive this ive seen thousands of videos showing th performance and sound of the games and its perfect. Ive even rooted and stripped my Play of some apps too. Now im really at wits end this thing wont emulate any game perfectly... What can i do????

linkandzelda said:
Goping back on topic i just got myself a Play today, and i have major problems with games on gameboid, genesoid, snesoid theyw ill jump around and skip frames. I know why it's becuase it has frameskip set to 2 by default. If i set it to 0 then the audio produces an annoying stuttering and clicking. I just don't belive this ive seen thousands of videos showing th performance and sound of the games and its perfect. Ive even rooted and stripped my Play of some apps too. Now im really at wits end this thing wont emulate any game perfectly... What can i do????
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Trust me mate, I've tried everything on both of my Xperia Plays. One stock, and one overclocked to 1.6ghx with CyanogenMod 7.
I'm at the same stage... I set games to 0 frameskipping and most games run perfectly, however if I enable the sound I get this horrible crackle (and with TigerMAME 3.0.3 noticable lag spikes - which is a damn shame). I think most of these emus need optimising for Xperia Play.
'Perfect' is such an over-used term these days... However these are the best emus of the bunch in my opinion... Trust me, I'm extremely anal when it comes to emulation.
TigerMAME 3.0.3 - With sound disabled can run games like Gigawing and Mars Matrix perfectly. I really hope the audio can be optimised. I'm currently playing the above two games with my own music playing in the background until then. Also, I believe older versions of Tiger run more games than this release...
MAME4Droid - Good for games which fall under the old MAME romset. Most games run smooth with audio (a lot of older games run perfectly) and the amount of CPU/audio customisation is unrivaled.
SNES9X EX - Runs games perfectly (excluding the Mode-7 heavy titles), with only slight audio crackle... Hoping for this to be resolved soon.
MD.EMU - The best Genesis/Megadrive emu around, same dev as SNES9X EX. Does the job where others fail (ie: near perfect Sonic 3 performance). Some audio problems here also.
GBAoid - Seems to work perfectly with everything I've tried. I need to put more research into GBA emu.

[Q] Craclking sound with Gamboid and Gensoid?? Can't be!

Hello,
Just got a Play today for use with emulators as it's perfect for physical buttons. But to my surprise there is a lag in it and I mean big time.
By default it's set to auto frame skip max 2, if i leave it like that then the game looks like its jumping really badly but it sounds fine. If i set the skipping to 0 then it runs smoothly but theres this annoying poping and clicking sound on the speakers.
Some people might say i should talk to the developer of the emulators. But this isnt an issue with them, as i dont see any other users with these issues and I don't really belive them to be true when lower devices run these emulators without issues.
I'm running stock formware 2.3.3 latest update. I havent removed any system apps at all literally just bought the play, updated software, loaded emulators and discovered this.

For snes I use supergnes and it has the best sound I have ever seen outside of bsnes, no crackling and a nice front end for launching games.
Sent from my XPERIA PLAY 4G

Thanks that one looks really nice and seems to work better than Snesoid!

Just remove some of the stuff on your homepages, like the game launchers, and the Timescape widget, also the photo and video one too, and the emulators should run better.

RottenFoxBreath said:
Just remove some of the stuff on your homepages, like the game launchers, and the Timescape widget, also the photo and video one too, and the emulators should run better.
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Hey man thanks I removed all of my widgets from the home screen but it had no effect.

linkandzelda said:
Thanks that one looks really nice and seems to work better than Snesoid!
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It is paid but I have been very happy with the performance
Sent from my XPERIA PLAY 4G

I'm making a video to demonstrate the problems. I'll add it to youtube shortly hopefully people can then tell if it's normal or not.
EDIT: Heres the video
Description:
In this video I play Gameboid with pokemon first showing it with frameskip set to auto and 0, and you need to listen carefully to the sound so you can hear that it crackles all the time which is very annoying. I then change the frameskip to 2 which is the default and you can then see that the game skips and jumps and is just too laggy to be belivable.
After that i try out Gensoid and you can see the same results from me running sonic. I get this result with every game i try. I also tried md.emu for sega but it was better but still skipped when the frameskip wa set to auto.
If anyone knows what I can do to solve this please let me know iw ould greatly aphiciate it as i bought the play JUST for emulators, if it doesnt play them then its totally a waste of money for me.

As soon as I got mine, I updated to 2.3.4, and tried Outrun(mame), Sonic 1, and 2 Gensoid), and Contra(Snesoid), both had bad sound, just like on my old phone, which really wasn't up to the job, but on removing Timescape, and that stupid photo and video widget, and the emulators virtual pads, they ran like a charm, Gensoid, Snesoid, and Mame4Droid all work fine, with no sound issues now.
Mame4Droid, I unticked Threaded Sound, as it seemed to cause issues, the others were left with stock settings, bar the virtual screen buttons removed.

I see, I was thinking that i'm the only one with the issues. Well in the end I went to the MIUI build on here and went away from the 'oid' series. Belive it or not but I found Genesis A.D. and MD.Emu to be faster and full speed or at least 99.99%. genplusdroid had a problem it was running slow and also the sound was a tone lower.
Also Snes A.D. seems to be full speed with Chrono Trigger sound included. Have yet to try Snes9x.
SNES: check
SEGA: check
GBC: check
PSX: check
MAME: havent tried
ATARI: havent tried
N64: check
GBA: no dice still lags with gameboid and gba player lite is jumpy, anyone know of another?

FPSE has a bad case of crackling sound... but only if the app is on the background. While you're actually using it there is no problem.

FPSE.. best settings?? Help please if you know the answer.

So, I love my xperia play... I love the built in playstation emulator as well.. however as you all know, the native emulator doesn't support all ps1 titles (although using the software rendering trick, it does support a LOT ) ... anyway, I've resorted to using PSX4Droid V 1.12 for the games that do not run on PS Pocket, but PSX4Droid is more or less laggy at times, and although games are playable, it grates on my last nerve to the point where I don't even want to play them. (Yeah, that sounds dumb, but that's just me.. ) So after doing some reading on the web and these forums, I've found that most people use FPSE, and find it to run games very nicely. I bought the emulator from the playstore, and I've got it up and running to the best settings that I could get. Here's the thing though... It lags almost worse than PSX4Droid does if I have it set on the best graphic settings... (Framelimiter, frameskip, skip fix, fast draw, screen filtering, enhanced 3D rendering, Hardware acceleration)
I've read that turning off screen filtering helps it to run faster, I've tried this but my graphics kinda suck =/ ... perhaps its just laggy on the games I'm running??? FF7, FF8, FF9, and Chrono Cross...
Ideas? Suggestions?? They're welcome

After using psx4droid (version 2) to play FFVIII on my NOOK Tablet, I switched over to playing on the Xperia Play and converted my save files to FPse.
The video settings I use on FPse for FFVIII:
-Framelimiter
-Fastdraw
I get a pretty consistent 50-60 FPS until I get to the world map then it drops to around 45 FPS. Still very playable.
*Side note: use Spusync to improve your sound, even though it still might not be perfect.

As said, some games works well, many don't. Mostly sound is distorted as hell. Any fix, i take!

what are you running on zach
are you on a stock play???

Yeah for now.. stock play r800x rooted... unlocked BL.. Sometimes I switch it up to Cyanogen..

[PSX Emulator] Best FPse Open-GL Settings

Hey guys,
I was wondering if anyone uses FPse, the PSX emulator. I just recently purchased it and that damed thing killed my weekend. I was playing Metal Gear Soild the entire weekend trying to get the best performance etc. Looks like 'old software drawing' and Open-GL Blits mode or whatever works the best, but I want to rock Open GL. Once I turn it on, the performance plummets for me. Any suggestions on settings etc?
EDIT: Would a certain BIOS make a difference in performance? I'm using SCPH1002
Thanks,
--Marc

not sure about the bios thing, i have installed 1001. havent tried any games, need to find the psx stash, can't remember where i stored the few i kept to make an iso.
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downloaded it today cuz i read that it now finally supports skullmonkeys the best damn game i ever played in my life (appart form max payne cuz i really like the stories and the comics in max payne and the vidz in skullmonkeys and what not)
i was stunned how it works, no lag no nothing with a game 627MB big. i use scph1001 as he recommended and thats it. non of the tweeks in video settings do anything cuz the frame rate stays at 59-60 constant and the picture quality stays the same, not perfectly clear but decent.

z.coniglietti said:
downloaded it today cuz i read that it now finally supports skullmonkeys the best damn game i ever played in my life (appart form max payne cuz i really like the stories and the comics in max payne and the vidz in skullmonkeys and what not)
i was stunned how it works, no lag no nothing with a game 627MB big. i use scph1001 as he recommended and thats it. non of the tweeks in video settings do anything cuz the frame rate stays at 59-60 constant and the picture quality stays the same, not perfectly clear but decent.
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If you download/install the Open-GL plugin, it looks way better, BUT, I've noticed a huge performance hit during cut scenes etc.
Never heard of Skullmonkeys.
EDIT: Oh crap, did the most recent update and it completely borked for me.. v0.11.46

tried opengl that he offered it was prettty laggy and the video quality was the same as before. tried libopenglplugin.so and it fc's.
sorry bat what is the word "borked" i don't mean it bad but i cant figure it out

z.coniglietti said:
tried opengl that he offered it was prettty laggy and the video quality was the same as before. tried libopenglplugin.so and it fc's.
sorry bat what is the word "borked" i don't mean it bad but i cant figure it out
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Hehe, 'borked' on urban dictionary just means it broke or messed up. How do you get these other plugins? I don't mind running it at the other video modes but I'd like to get the Open GL one working since it looks so awesome!

silentcovenant said:
Hey guys,
I was wondering if anyone uses FPse, the PSX emulator. I just recently purchased it and that damed thing killed my weekend. I was playing Metal Gear Soild the entire weekend trying to get the best performance etc. Looks like 'old software drawing' and Open-GL Blits mode or whatever works the best, but I want to rock Open GL. Once I turn it on, the performance plummets for me. Any suggestions on settings etc?
EDIT: Would a certain BIOS make a difference in performance? I'm using SCPH1002
Thanks,
--Marc
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Use ePSXe! It is much better!
Requires no setup in order to play games smoothly Give it a try

He's asking for settings for opengl graphics, he can run it fine on his normal settings, doesn't need a new emu.
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silentcovenant said:
EDIT: Would a certain BIOS make a difference in performance? I'm using SCPH1002
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Difference by changing BIOS:
On boot screen text changes - sometimes Trademark logo, sometimes Copyright
Different menu for memory card management.
FPS lock ---
by last number in bios
0 - Japan NTSC --- 60FPS SCPH-1000, ...
1 - USA NTSC --- 60FPS SCPH-1001, SCPH-101, ...
2 - Europe PAL --- 50FPS SCPH-1002, SCPH-7502, ...
best BIOS for using is SCPH-101 - its newest bios from PS One console - much smaller and rounded corners
and also use NTSC-U game ISO

I've always used the 1001 bios for my PS1 emulators. I've used both FPse and ePSXe and FPse is honestly smoother for me. I have never messed with the performance settings and its always ran good. I played through all of Metal Gear Solid on my tablet with no issues.
Side note: I've been playing Final Fantasy 7 lately. I had forgotten how fun that game is.

Mediapad m2 8.0: Playing Game Laggy

Hi anyone having laggy issue when playing game like clash royale?, Everytime i started to play game, at starting it will lag, then become smooth after awhile and lag again after sometime. Anyone having same issue?

I have no issues with clash royal. It's running always smoothely.
Any other games where u have problems?
I play COC, CR and Boom Beach. All are perfect

sepplxxx123 said:
I have no issues with clash royal. It's running always smoothely.
Any other games where u have problems?
I play COC, CR and Boom Beach. All are perfect
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Other games also starting will lag.

you can try and make a factory reset and earase internal storage. Maybe there was a problem or something.
Gets your device hot when you start the game?
How about a benchmark program? Did you make a test and compare to other results on youtube e.g.
Maybe some hardware error or sth. like that.

sepplxxx123 said:
you can try and make a factory reset and earase internal storage. Maybe there was a problem or something.
Gets your device hot when you start the game?
How about a benchmark program? Did you make a test and compare to other results on youtube e.g.
Maybe some hardware error or sth. like that.
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i tested with AnTuTu benchmark v6.1.4 and i get 53410, how about yours?

Ah just saw ur pn and replied to you. With antutu i got 47514. So from this side it looks okay. Hardware have no issues.
But then I have no idea what could be the problem on your device. My other games are running smoothly, only vainglory is a little laggy.
I am sorry man, I have no other ideas to help you.

Has anyone of you tried playin Asphalt 8?
How is it? mine is so laggy. even in lowest settings.

Caelestiel said:
Has anyone of you tried playin Asphalt 8?
How is it? mine is so laggy. even in lowest settings.
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Did you enable the Perfomance Mode in Battery settings?
I haven't played Asphalt yet, but I play Real Racing 3. This app is running very smoothly without any issues.
You can try this one and reply what happens.

sepplxxx123 said:
Did you enable the Perfomance Mode in Battery settings?
I haven't played Asphalt yet, but I play Real Racing 3. This app is running very smoothly without any issues.
You can try this one and reply what happens.
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Asphalt 8 lags like hell even with performance mode on

its asphalt 8 not the device it is rather optimised and lags on most devices, source from YouTube videos of others playing it on some high end devices.
Possibly the device is not switching to the 2.0ghz a53 part of the octocore?
Question, how well does it run world of tanks blitz?