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Which ROM do I want?

Have a rooted galaxy nexus running nova launcher.
I think its time for me to pick a ROM. Which ROM delivers the closest stock experience but still being highly customizable?
By closest stock experience I mean smooth UI and stable OS. I read aokp is good but are there different versions, where do I find them etc etc.
I've tried to do as much reading as possible but when I go into the development section of the forum I just see a bunch of numbers and words that don't make sense to me lol
Which rom is the best in terms of what I want?

I use Codename Android, but that's just my preference. I'm using Franco's kernel. I'm also just waiting for milestone four of aokp.
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You probably want to go with the normal AOKP (I find the difference to the other ROMs to be minimal, matter of taste I suppose. I stick with AOKP since it's the first one I used, runs great and gets a lof of support), the differnece to the other AOKPs is minimal, mostly optics.
As for which build, if you want to be 100 certain that it's run smooth and without any problems, go Milestone 3.
I would go Build 24 though since it is stable and offers more functions. There is a chance you migth run into a problem or two but nothing big (I'm on 24 as well)
You can get it here:
Go figure I am too new to this forum to post urls...
rootzwiki dot com/topic/ 11455-android-open-kang-project-maguro-build-24/

AOKP is by far my favorite. http://forum.aokp.co/page/releases

AOKP is the way to go. I'm using an amazing blacked out version found here:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/18050-black-ice-enjoy-the-darknesskangorade-2323updated-2-18/

I reccomend the Codename Android

BlackMamba08 said:
Have a rooted galaxy nexus running nova launcher.
I think its time for me to pick a ROM. Which ROM delivers the closest stock experience but still being highly customizable?
By closest stock experience I mean smooth UI and stable OS. I read aokp is good but are there different versions, where do I find them etc etc.
I've tried to do as much reading as possible but when I go into the development section of the forum I just see a bunch of numbers and words that don't make sense to me lol
Which rom is the best in terms of what I want?
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If you want as close to stock as possible then give this a shot. It's the v4.0.4 that leaked a few weeks ago. Both the wife and I have been using it since then. It's stable, battery life is decent and it's not cluttered with crap.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1481613

Wow guys, thanks so much for the help.
I decided to go with aokp b24. I have a few questions.
-I am using aokp b24 with nova launcher. I know b25 is coming out soon, and I also like the black exodus theme by nitro as well. I've done HEAVY customization with nova launcher and my widgets such as simple text and minimalistic text that I don't think I;d have the patience through sitting again. So my question is do I have to do a full wipe/factory reset if I upgrade roms?
-I've seen peoples lock screens that have quick apps instead of the stock unlock an camera, they have phone + sms etc etc. With this rom I can select 2 apps, I set them as sms and phone but only the sms one shows up. Any idea?

BlackMamba08 said:
Wow guys, thanks so much for the help.
I decided to go with aokp b24. I have a few questions.
-I am using aokp b24 with nova launcher. I know b25 is coming out soon, and I also like the black exodus theme by nitro as well. I've done HEAVY customization with nova launcher and my widgets such as simple text and minimalistic text that I don't think I;d have the patience through sitting again. So my question is do I have to do a full wipe/factory reset if I upgrade roms?
-I've seen peoples lock screens that have quick apps instead of the stock unlock an camera, they have phone + sms etc etc. With this rom I can select 2 apps, I set them as sms and phone but only the sms one shows up. Any idea?
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1.) Apparently roman said you don't need to do a wipe going from 24 to 25, but there is a chance of bugs/things not working properly if you don't wipe. You can save your preferences under Nova Settings --> Backup. And then you can restore once you redownload Nova. Also, you can save your minimalistic text settings under "Backup" as well. That way you can just restore your settings with a simple click. (The restore files will be saved to your SD card, which don't get wiped if you erase data).
2.) Are you sure you selected the "quad" lock screen setting under "Lock screen style"? If so, try to mess around with the "octo" setting and the custom app locations (i.e. 1, 2, etc.).
Also, this thread should be under Q&A. =]

Thanks so much for your reply. A mod can move this thread if it is in the wrong spot, sorry didn't know better.
I just installed aokp b25 and loving it.
Does anybody know any way to make your notification/status bar transparent?

[JUST FOR FUN] Custom or Stock ROM?

Just for fun.
Do you have a custom or stock ROM on your Galaxy Nexus?

Custom .switching between euroskanks cm9 and aokp the whole time
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Running AOKP M5, gives more option of customizing.
Stock ROM is fine too, if you don't need to customize.

Custom ofcourse. Now liquid linaro 1.5rc2, tomorrow maybe something else.

Custom of course.
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Custom!!!
Stock is good. But once you try the custom ROM... you don't want ever go back to stock. Really. You will miss so many handy stuff in stock ROM which is pretty standard in all custom ROMs. For instance:
- Long press back button kills the app.
- Or toggles in notification area
etc.
Currently:
Slim ICS ROM.
CM9 is OK. But it's not Slim ICS
AOKP is very similar to Slim (almost the same). But not as stable and slim as Slim ICS
So.. Slim ICS is the only option for me. All the other ROMs.. well.. good luck with all the other

Idk even why Google make stock so slow and I hated the gradient effect. Google should hire these custom rom devs. They really have skills and talents. After using custom I can't go to that slow, laggy stock rom....
Loving the rascream + trinity 65 stable and cid boot animation
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It's funny that all the comments so far say custom roms, yet the poll result says otherwise. My guess is that people using stock rom have absolutely no problem with it and feel no need to "brag" about how good/stable their rom is
Edit: Yes, I voted stock rom.

Im always rooted and ROMed within the hour of getting my phone. So custom.

custom, running Eclipse 1.7.1. Definitely recommend it
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Right now running custom (CM9) but would have no issue's with just using Stock rooted. Google does a good job putting out stable code that works well. I just like having a couple extra features that CM9 adds.
A kernel is a must though, although stock ROM is good the kernel they push out is obviously not very well optimized.

My Gnex and my Xoom are both bone stock, unrooted, locked bootloaders, the whole nine yards. I know how to root, I know how to flash custom ROMs, and once I learned, my curiosity was satisfied. The custom stuff just has way too many tweaks, customizations, etc. The motto of AOSP and kernel developers alike seems to be to include everything and the kitchen sink. That may work for some, but not for me. I don't want to have to think about it all.
I buy my devices to use them productively day in and day out, rather than to **** around with them constantly haha! Having root access doesn't give me any abilities that I need to achieve that purpose, nor do custom ROMs and kernels give me anything the stock ROM doesn't give me for achieving that purpose.
In the end, the stock ROM is fast, stable, clean, and doesn't include all the extras that I don't need, want, or want to think about. Some have asked me "Well then if you don't mess with them at all or don't develop with them, why do you even buy Google experience devices?" The answer to that question is simple...I want the plain vanilla stock Android experience and the latest Android versions. My interest goes no further than that.
I subscribe to the design and UI philosophy of "less is more", and within that parameter, the stock Android experience delivers in spades. It gives me everything I need and nothing I don't.

oldblue910 said:
My Gnex and my Xoom are both bone stock, unrooted, locked bootloaders, the whole nine yards. I know how to root, I know how to flash custom ROMs, and once I learned, my curiosity was satisfied. The custom stuff just has way too many tweaks, customizations, etc. The motto of AOSP and kernel developers alike seems to be to include everything and the kitchen sink. That may work for some, but not for me. I don't want to have to think about it all.
I buy my devices to use them productively day in and day out, rather than to **** around with them constantly haha! Having root access doesn't give me any abilities that I need to achieve that purpose, nor do custom ROMs and kernels give me anything the stock ROM doesn't give me for achieving that purpose.
In the end, the stock ROM is fast, stable, clean, and doesn't include all the extras that I don't need, want, or want to think about. Some have asked me "Well then if you don't mess with them at all or don't develop with them, why do you even buy Google experience devices?" The answer to that question is simple...I want the plain vanilla stock Android experience and the latest Android versions. My interest goes no further than that.
I subscribe to the design and UI philosophy of "less is more", and within that parameter, the stock Android experience delivers in spades. It gives me everything I need and nothing I don't.
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This has been my school of thought with the Galaxy Nexus, as well. I did unlock the bootloader straight away, just in case I wanted to try custom ROMs and go back to stock. I haven't had that itch yet though.
I'm not in anyway knocking custom ROMs (I've happily used them on every previous device), I do feel though they are the "scenic route" for this particular phone.

Ran stock + root for the first few months until curiosity got the better of me and I installed CM9 a few days ago. Mostly all good so far apart from a problem with Google Music stuttering occasionally (accompanied by a nice screeching sound ) for no apparent reason.
Thinking of trying Slim ICS next, or I might stick with CM9 depending on how much the stuttering problem annoys me.

I use the stock ROM. I personally don't use many of the customization in other ROMs. And for aesthetics, I don't need UI customizations -- I don't really care how the UI looks. (I was fine with Froyo's UI )
Root is required for me, as I use apps that need it (such as Quick Boot, which allows you to reboot your device without turning it off and back on again, and Market Enabler, which allows us non-Americans access U.S.-only apps).
As for the bootloader, I firmly believe in unlocking (I unlocked it even before booting Android for the first time), as for me, the benefits out-weigh the negative: I like being able to recovery files (e.g., pictures before they got synced to the cloud) on my device in case it crashes and can't boot, and I like being able to back up my setup so that in case anything happens, I can always go back to it -- both of which can not easily be done if your bootloader is locked. There are many more benefits as well.

Stock ROMs are slow and sometimes unresponsive. That is inevitable even for the Galaxy Nexus.
Custom ROMs are far more tweaked and optimized. Custom ROMs, though, are not necessarily better, since what's best is user-defined. We all have our needs and as long as we're satisfied with what we have, we do just fine.
efrant said:
Root is required for me, as I use apps that need it (such as Quick Boot, which allows you to reboot your device without turning it off and back on again, and Market Enabler, which allows us non-Americans access U.S.-only apps).
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Quick boot? That sounds like an app that only reboots/reloads the system and not the kernel, correct? (i.e. full boot) What market enabler app works perfectly for ICS?
efrant said:
As for the bootloader, I firmly believe in unlocking (I unlocked it even before booting Android for the first time), as for me, the benefits out-weigh the negative: I like being able to recovery files (e.g., pictures before they got synced to the cloud) on my device in case it crashes and can't boot, and I like being able to back up my setup so that in case anything happens, I can always go back to it -- both of which can not easily be done if your bootloader is locked. There are many more benefits as well.
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Besides, on a phone like the Galaxy Nexus, relocking it is dead easy.

I use BAMF paradigm. Its awesome. No other rom is as stable. Also love the quick settings.
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Using Black Ice... started with LiquidSmooth and really liked it (love having profiles so that I can set a "Night" mode in which only my phone will ring and everything else is customized to either just vibrate or just notify by the LED). I then went to AOKP and tried Gummy briefly but neither had profiles. Found Black Ice which is a modified AOKP and havent looked back since. Aside from the nice White on Black scheme it has profiles and has the option for the weather in the notification page.

Chaotic Peace said:
custom, running Eclipse 1.7.1. Definitely recommend it
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Was running it on my razor. How is the performance compared to cm9, aokp, gummy?

I can't live without my AOKP!
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Galaxy Nexus JellyBean ROM Feature Comparison

As most users on XDA, I've got a rooted device that I want to use a custom ROM on, and there are so many choices it makes choosing a ROM very difficult.
And it is all a matter of preference, depending what included features (included Gapps, default launcher, notification options, etc) or what base it is built from (CM10, AOSP, AOKP, etc) everyone has their own preference.
I created this public spreadsheet, but I thought it may be useful for others, and allow others to possibly to keep track of what features are included out-of-the-box on different custom ROMs. It has really taken off since I originally created it.
http://goo.gl/U8a0E
Hopefully this can help others like me who want to quickly know what features they will or won't have with different custom ROMs.
I considered trying to do a forum post on this, but obviously I would have to keep up with updates myself on Post #1 like most stickied reference posts, that's why I thought a public Google Spreadsheet would be more helpful as anyone can update it.
Overall, a lot of this will probably be moot once a stable CM10 is released, but we never really know how long that can take. And we all know there will still be customizations made to it, one I can think of specifically is Paranoid Android.
Thanks everyone who makes updates to the sheet. I would also like to throw out a HUGE thank you to the custom ROM makers giving us stable ROMs that meet our individual needs.
And, as the Google Doc can be viewed by ANYONE, must get permission on google account to edit.
My personal "Must Haves":
- T9 Dialer (avoid having to install separate dialer app)
- Customizable Notification drop down for Additional Toggles (this has replaced the need for Widgetsoid2 since I can have the Flashlight and Wifi AP here.)
- Reboot and Reboot to Recovery in Power Menu (Mostly Reboot as a minimum as I sometimes forget to turn it back on if I Poweroff)
- Battery Percentage in Status Bar (The logo itself is no where near specific enough for my needs, and I now prefer the circle style)
NOVEMBER 24, 2012 UPDATE: Personally I've switched over to Paranoid Android 2.99.3 (beta 3), it doesn't have my personal must haves yet, but I'm sure it will, currently I'd rather have 4.2 and lose a few features, than be running 4.1.2, it is one of the first roms with customizations to be released on AOSP 4.2, so until it is 3.x it could have some bugs.

HwyXingFrog said:
I've tried a few ROMs on my Unlocked GSM Galaxy Nexus and am still trying to find the ROM that has all the features I want. And is the most stable with those features.
I just created this public spreadsheet, mostly for my own use so it is very basic at the moment. But I thought it may be useful for others, and allow others to possibly to keep track of what features are included out-of-the-box on different custom ROMs.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AggpxyzXBu--dEZMWnZTUWtMVXBpdHNteW5zTXpRVmc
Hopefully this can help others like me who want to quickly know what features they will or won't have with different custom ROMs.
I considered trying to do a forum post on this, but obviously I would have to keep up with updates myself on Post #1 like most stickied reference posts, that's why I thought a public Google Spreadsheet would be more helpful as anyone can update it.
Like I said, it is very empty right now and is completely open to others who want to make changes to it.
Overall, a lot of this will probably be moot once a stable CM10 is released, but we never really know how long that can take. And we all know there will still be customizations made to it, one I can think of specifically is Paranoid Android, and I haven't even included it on the Google Spreadsheet yet as I still haven't tried it.
I would like to throw out a HUGE thank you to the custom ROM makers giving us stable and fast versions of what CM10 can't do yet, isn't stable enough to use yet, or may never do in some cases.
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This is nice. I have bought gnex seven days ago and tried every JB ROM so far.
Also I noticed that paranoid, like you said ( the only ROM that I am using as a daily driver ) is not on this list.
You really should try his alpha 1.9.1 with included kernel. Well now all kernels work on this ROM. But I think that gnex is the beast already and doesnt need any Custom kernels.
Hey I like Franco kernel and I purchased his app and I am playing a lot with it, but as long as I need decent battery life I will use stock kernel. On that ROM I had only 2% of battery dropped in amazing 6 night hours. I just couldnt believe my eyes.
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dejson said:
This is nice. I have bought gnex seven days ago and tried every JB ROM so far.
Also I noticed that paranoid, like you said ( the only ROM that I am using as a daily driver ) is not on this list.
You really should try his alpha 1.9.1 with included kernel. Well now all kernels work on this ROM. But I think that gnex is the beast already and doesnt need any Custom kernels.
Hey I like Franco kernel and I purchased his app and I am playing a lot with it, but as long as I need decent battery life I will use stock kernel. On that ROM I had only 2% of battery dropped in amazing 6 night hours. I just couldnt believe my eyes.
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Yeah, I was trying to find a good ROM to get me by until CM10 was officially released as "Stable", and I was going to wait until that to try Paranoid Android, especially with all the customization I can do in it.
I may have to give it a try, maybe once I see my spreadsheet fill up with more user input. I'm already seeing a lot of activity on the sheet.

HwyXingFrog said:
Yeah, I was trying to find a good ROM to get me by until CM10 was officially released as "Stable", and I was going to wait until that to try Paranoid Android, especially with all the customization I can do in it.
I may have to give it a try, maybe once I see my spreadsheet fill up with more user input. I'm already seeing a lot of activity on the sheet.
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Great thing, i've just checked the document and cant believe. Excellent and I'm glad to see that there is no problems with paranoid rom so far. I respect the work of all developers, but for me paranoid is the best so far, phablet mode is excellent and original approach.
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dejson said:
Great thing, i've just checked the document and cant believe. Excellent and I'm glad to see that there is no problems with paranoid rom so far. I respect the work of all developers, but for me paranoid is the best so far, phablet mode is excellent and original approach.
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+1

Great idea, love the list. Love the idea of being able to let anyone edit it.
Excellent

ThunderStick said:
Great idea, love the list. Love the idea of being able to let anyone edit it.
Excellent
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Thanks, I assume you added Soft and Chewy.
I'm downloading the newest CM10 and JellyBro to load onto my Nexus quick, hopefully I will get those two filled in completely, then at least I will know where my baseline is for my own personal comparison.
A few people have messed it up a bit and I'm sure some changes got lost, but if I don't leave it wide open, I know a lot of people won't make changes.

So, after all of that, and the spreadsheet getting updated by users pretty nicely, it looks like there is a functional enough CM10 (from the +Google page) v1.8 that is stable enough for me to start using as a daily driver for at least a few days.
I'll be using Gapps-b as I need Picasa sync to be working.

Damn! That's great work, well done! Keeping this up to date will be the hardest part but if you manage it you will help the Galaxy Nexus community a lot! I'll try to help. Keep up the good work.

HwyXingFrog said:
Thanks, I assume you added Soft and Chewy.
I'm downloading the newest CM10 and JellyBro to load onto my Nexus quick, hopefully I will get those two filled in completely, then at least I will know where my baseline is for my own personal comparison.
A few people have messed it up a bit and I'm sure some changes got lost, but if I don't leave it wide open, I know a lot of people won't make changes.
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I would probably leave the battery life comparison off. This is very subjective on any Rom or device.
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ThunderStick said:
I would probably leave the battery life comparison off. This is very subjective on any Rom or device.
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I agree, I didn't put the battery life on there, all roms except the Nightlies like to advertise "Good" battery life anyway.
That's one of the issues with leaving it editable by anyone.

HwyXingFrog said:
That's one of the issues with leaving it editable by anyone.
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You could leave the public version as is, but add a "revised" version (editable only by you) that weeds out any egregious and obvious inaccuracies.

Oops misread.

I started one of these back in the day for the droid Eris. You should be able to leave it public, you can always see and revert changes.
Can we get a column for cdma vs GSM?
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Thanks for sharing man! Im using xenonhd ad my first custom ROM band its fine
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So, overall, I definitely accomplished what I wanted to do with the Google Doc, everyone has been awesome with their updates to it.
But, for myself, the Doc is basically useless as soon as I found CM10 v1.8 on the +Google page, which is basically a very stable nightly (although it isn't), it is exactly what I wanted....
It's very stable, gives me all the features I have as my "Bare Minimum"
- Toggles in notification screen
- Battery Percentage in Status bar
- Reboot options in shutdown menu
I ended up in the exact same state after trying numerous custom roms on my HTC Desire and Motorola Atrix previously, always just ending up with CyanogenMod7.
And I happened to just fall onto the +Google post with v1.8 while compiling the Google Doc. Was about to download 1.3 then 1.8 was posted and I'm LOVING it.
And as long as I stick to CM10, I shouldn't have to wipe my data, I'm tired of doing all my Titanium Restores (as I don't have the paid version).
Again, thanks everyone for updating the Google Doc, and as I've made it public, anyone should be able to update it and keep it updated for other people out there that want to use custom roms. And if anyone ever needs to revert anything that really breaks it, all you have to do is log in with your google account.
I really hope it helps some people find the ROM they want to use for their specific needs. And it would be nice to see more of these for different devices, especially for devices not officially supported by CyanogenMod. I may have to get one started for my Motorola Atrix 4G.

Anyone notice this on both CM official and jelly bro.
There's no Document Viewer app??? it's in stock! I can view pdf, microsoft word, without needing to download 3rd party app.
Show widget before lockscreen seems not working in both CM official and jelly bro.

Great work. Should always be maintained and help users what they really want.
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Bayint Naung said:
Anyone notice this on both CM official and jelly bro.
There's no Document Viewer app??? it's in stock! I can view pdf, microsoft word, without needing to download 3rd party app.
Show widget before lockscreen seems not working in both CM official and jelly bro.
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It may be in stock, but is not in AOSP.
Plenty of apps on the market for it, which is how we justify not adding one.

adrynalyne said:
It may be in stock, but is not in AOSP.
Plenty of apps on the market for it, which is how we justify not adding one.
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Speaking of that, does anyone know what document viewer the stock Nexus uses, and if there is an Play App, or APK I can install on CM10 that is the same.
I have Documents to Go, but I'm wondering what the Stock nexus one is.
I've added this to the spreadsheet as CM10 not having one, so if we know which app the Stock has I can put that on the spreadsheet.
Thanks.

CM10 M1 rom?

I'm currently using Wicked's ROM, and I've never used an AOSP ROM, but since this is the first "stable" JB ROM, I wanted to know the biggest difference between the CM 10 M1 ROM and Wickeds ROM.
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/cyanogenmod-10-m1
Any advice will help.
Thanks,

seanvree said:
I'm currently using Wicked's ROM, and I've never used an AOSP ROM, but since this is the first "stable" JB ROM, I wanted to know the biggest difference between the CM 10 M1 ROM and Wickeds ROM.
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/cyanogenmod-10-m1
Any advice will help.
Thanks,
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AOSP is the code that gets pushed out directly from google and CM bases its work on this. Companies like Samsung and HTC build upon this code to create their own modifications which can vary greatly in apperance and features. Wicked is based on the Samsung firmware. This means you get many of the galaxy s3's exclusive features such as motion controls, smart stay etc. The apps are also themed to make the whole OS feel more integrated. The contact app, music app, dialer etc all share a certain consistency that, IMO is more polished.
CM on the other hand, brings a whole bunch of modifications and features that give you more control over your device. I cant really go through them here but if you do decide to go with CM, I advise you to spend a good 30-60 minutes going through each menu in the settings to get a good idea of whats available. Also, being based of AOSP, CM removes a lot of the bloatware that comes with the S3 giving you a less cluttered OS.
My recommendation: Do a backup of your current Wicked Rom in your recovery. I also recommend getting Titanium Backup to backup your apps and data. There's a free version available but the Pro version has much more extensive features namely that it can restore all your apps without you having to confirm each app. Both AOSP Roms and Samsung Roms I feel target different audiences so its up to you to decide which one best appeals to your usage

I came from sonic rom, and have been following the nightlies for bout 2 weeks. Obviously the biggest difference is jelly bean vs ICS.
Which when it comes down to it, isn't that big of a difference lol.
differences worthy of note for me:
1. Google now (which i guess is included in wicked too)
2. smoother faster
3. CM 10 does have a screen flicker rarely, but lately it seems to be all but gone.
4. quick sms reply in the notification (great!)
5. two finger swype down on emails and sms in notification to show more info
6. unlock screen much better than origional, choose apps to include in the lock screen
7. wifi hot spot actually works
8. browser seems better
9. volume rocker to skip songs while screen is off (love it)
10. sweet loving support of the CM staff (priceless)
11. raw google goodness
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nicky is right, but NOT having all of samsungs proprietary features that come in touchwiz is in my opinion a huge plus.
smartstay, svoice, motion controls, and PIP are all very much meant for the tmobile storeroom, its a "hey look at what this does..." where as you continue to use you notice smartstay works about half the time, the motion controls are mostly unessary (when did the android phone turn into a wii remote, whats with all this moving lol), and the svoice is abhorent.
Google made their fortune off of software and apps, samsung has hardware down great.
But i'm typing this one of their laptops, same thing applies. The hardware and internals are great, but their little apps they add to windows were retarded and i did a clean reformat.
samsung device + pure google software = a wonderous thing

Thanks for the advice guys.
One more question- once I flash CM10M1, can I update to future CM ROMs without having to do a wipe?

i been using this rom sense it came out, and it is the most stable rom out of the cm10's and aokp's roms that i have tried, havnt had one single problem with it, everythign works great on this too:good:

seanvree said:
Thanks for the advice guys.
One more question- once I flash CM10M1, can I update to future CM ROMs without having to do a wipe?
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Firstly, don't flash M1. Flash the newest one. Second, you can update without wiping, yes.

seanvree said:
Thanks for the advice guys.
One more question- once I flash CM10M1, can I update to future CM ROMs without having to do a wipe?
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What do you mean by wipe. Everyone has there degree of "cleanliness", But I just wiped calvin wiped cash before every cm 10 nightly update. HOWEVER, if your going to cm for the first time or leaving cm, definately do a factory reset. Some guys do a factory reset every time, i found it was alright without it.

[Q] Q&A and list of bugs for custom roms

im looking to flash a new rom and i want to thoroughly reserach it before flashing. Does anyone know where I can find FAQs and list of issues to the following roms?
Such as something like AOKP has
[ROM] AOKP(Jellybean 4.2.1 )Task650 (2.2.2013b) (AT&T)
FAQ:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29198513&postcount=3
Q&A: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29198513#post29198513
[ROM][CM10:Hybrid] PARANOIDANDROID 2.55 (11/21)
Q&A: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1819441
Though I couldnt find a summary or a list of report bugs
[ROM][PA:AOKP] ParanoidKANGdroid 1.40 (11/21) The Most Customizable ROM on Earth!
I couldnt find any Q&A for this ROM, but PA had it......
[ROM][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 10 Nightly Builds for SGH-I747
Q&A: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786563
I couldnt find list of bugs for CM10, speciifcally for stable or Milestones.
If there is a link to what I'm asking for above that will be great. If not, i'll continue reading through the threads.
I'm looking at CM10 and I've been reading lots of issues even at stable......sometimes it makes me think
1) Why do people flash custom roms?
2) is it worth getting a new menu but in exchange your camera, bt, or whatever might not work. Or worse yet, something that you need but only discover that it doesnt work when you use it on the spot?

understand that some of these roms have bugs to be worked out due to the fact that they're still very new. also, many users experience bugs/glitches, etc on stable roms because they dont follow the developers installation instructions. take the time to read up on these roms and you'll be able to conclude that many bugs are the result of user error. a solid rom by a great developer (installed properly) can make your S3 the best phone you've ever had. what are you running at the moment?

xBeerdroiDx said:
understand that some of these roms have bugs to be worked out due to the fact that they're still very new. also, many users experience bugs/glitches, etc on stable roms because they dont follow the developers installation instructions. take the time to read up on these roms and you'll be able to conclude that many bugs are the result of user error. a solid rom by a great developer (installed properly) can make your S3 the best phone you've ever had. what are you running at the moment?
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running Paranoid Android.
It's fairly stable, I haven't ran into too many problems yet.
I did notice it was a bit laggier than my stock ICS after my ICS was supercharged with V6.
its also a bit laggier on games.
It delivers a few customizations i like, like calls only log, custom boot animation, customizable quick launch, face unlock that is fickle.....but i just cant see as of right now why I would change? I lose the ability to make folders on trebuchet (yes....i know Nova Prime), I lose hand swipe screen capture, i lose smart stay (yes there are apps for it). I almost wnat to say battery is a bit worse than stock, during idle its about the same.
You also lose s planner which i found a replacement apps. It just seems like a lot of work restoring sms, tibu, changing all settings to your liking, reinstalling launcher and load settings, loading contact information etc etc for the ability to add toggles, sliding background......
I'm cool for the aesthetics, but i wonder is there any practical improvements, as in performance, speed, signal, battery life.... i think i would enjoy that rom better..........would going to AOKP be the one for me?

I enjoy AOKP, but I could care less about many of the touchwiz features that many people look for/enjoy. I love the performance and reliability of AOKP as well as the ability to tweak/customize. Download Super Backup for your sms/apps, etc, make a nandroid and give something else a shot if you'd like. I've been using AOKP's 4.1.2 release since late last year and I'm not switching any time soon. I've downloaded and flashed the Nexus 4 camera (on xda forum) and have exactly the S3 I want
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xBeerdroiDx said:
I enjoy AOKP, but I could care less about many of the touchwiz features that many people look for/enjoy. I love the performance and reliability of AOKP as well as the ability to tweak/customize. Download Super Backup for your sms/apps, etc, make a nandroid and give something else a shot if you'd like. I've been using AOKP's 4.1.2 release since late last year and I'm not switching any time soon. I've downloaded and flashed the Nexus 4 camera (on xda forum) and have exactly the S3 I want
Sent from my SGH-I747 using xda app-developers app
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Yea i figured i'd jump to AOKP next since PA has CM10 integrated within it already.
I've also tried Ariel (ICS rom), not only did it lack customizability, it wasnt stable. it felt like a less stable version of stock..... i was highly disappointed in my first custom rom. Its not that i like TW necessarily, but the way that everything is set up, its pretty smooth for me and the battery is good too.
I want to try out AOKP or PK before making a decision though.