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Will this phone end up with terrible development such as with the original epic?
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Maybe renaming it to the epic is hurting us, lmao
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locoboi187 said:
Will this phone end up with terrible development such as with the original epic?
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I didn't have that phone. Was it's community also ungrateful while feeling entitled to work done by others for free?
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I didn't have that phone. Was it's community also ungrateful while feeling entitled to work done by others for free?
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Probably not, these are new age modders who think just because they have a certain device it should come with all bells and whistles that take a good 6 months to develope. Did I mention they want it now!!!
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Well, devs are staying behind because we are all starting to see how the game is going. Too many Android phones are coming out at once and money ain't coming any faster. I'm sure if people paid devs to come dev for the device, we'd have more devs...so if you want to pay for someone's E4GT, go right on ahead. If you don't want to, just wait it out. This phone is already pretty sweet and the problems we do have, a dev probably won't be able to fix those..so..yeah.
This phone is sick dude, just enjoy it and be happy that you don't own a device where you have to depend on the devs just to be able to get through the day.
Having it from release date, the OG Epic did NOT have terrible development. Just not the development some people wanted. And there were "some" people who were ungrateful and rude, like with any device. This one already has great developers, and we are slowly getting more. Be patient.
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Having it from release date, the OG Epic did NOT have terrible development. Just not the development some people wanted. And there were "some" people who were ungrateful and rude, like with any device. This one already has great developers, and we are slowly getting more. Be patient.
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The Epic scene was pretty good. A lot of people came from that Evo...smh, the Evo messed the whole game up if ya ask me. Now people willl sit around and say their phone is garbage if it doesn't have the same dev scene that the Evo had.
Little do most people know that the Evo was damn near the same device as the Desire, N1 and Dinc. So most of the reason why its scene was so great was because a dev from any one of those phones could just port their roms over and all they had to do was swap out the hardware files and the kernel. Other than those 2 things, everything was damn near exactly the same.
Yeah I think we just have to be patience
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I've seen a few well known devs from the HTC Evo post here, so I'm pretty optimistic.
Viperboy is coming. That's another developer for you!
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what do we really need here? cyanogen and miui and stock roms. that is asking alot but that would be epic. for now i am loving starburst. love asop but don't remove touchwiz launcher and widgets. just my opinion.
I had the First Epic and the Dev's there were GREAT. We may not have had as many as some phones like the Evo but the ones we had did great work and who needs 100 roms to choose from when the ones we had did the trick. We had some great Roms and Themes and the fixes came pretty fast.
I have not rooted this phone yet mainly because I have not felt the need. The only thing I am missing is WiFi Tether. I am sure when this LOS gets worked out and the devs get their hands on the original source we will see much more. I am grateful for anyone that helps make this phone better, but it is pretty dang good out of the box. The best I have ever had.
Where did u hear that from
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OG epic scene was great.... kinda started slowing down with the whole froyo debacle, because it was pretty well known sammy was already working on ginger.... so evsryone was waiting for the final, correct source.... still are i think... i gotta check... gf has my epic and id love to see a finished gb...
cordell12 said:
Probably not, these are new age modders who think just because they have a certain device it should come with all bells and whistles that take a good 6 months to develope. Did I mention they want it now!!!
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Now?? pffft what are you talking about? They want that **** out on launch day! wtf you slacking devs that dont get paid and do this all for free?? Get back in the sweatshop and do work that requires more thinking than a sweatshop worker in china but gets "paid"(donations) less! These devs should worship us and do what we tell them when we tell them! When a phone is released that very day we expect EVERY MOD imaginable, every "bell and whistle" and a choice of at least 10 roms and 10 kernels..
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Viperboy is coming. That's another developer for you!
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I cant wait until viper comes over! That will be the first custom rom I run on this phone.
ioos said:
I didn't have that phone. Was it's community also ungrateful while feeling entitled to work done by others for free?
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Haha right?!
i have been spoiled
evo had so much going on i miss flashing new roms,all i need is cyanogen 7 and miui and a good sense rom nothing else.i miss sense but love this phone,the launchers with sense themes have no souls to them.wish i new how to even start making or porting a rom myself sux been getting bored of touch wiz
manny1983nyc said:
evo had so much going on i miss flashing new roms,all i need is cyanogen 7 and miui and a good sense rom nothing else.i miss sense but love this phone,the launchers with sense themes have no souls to them.wish i new how to even start making or porting a rom myself sux been getting bored of touch wiz
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sense is pretty hard to get working on a non HTC phone. I dont think I've ever heard of a sense rom (that fully worked right) ported over to a non htc phone(at least that I know of). It's not impossible(from what I hear) but it is very very very difficult(so I hear)
locoboi187 said:
Will this phone end up with terrible development such as with the original epic?
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God I hope not, ****ing devs lol
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I'm long time HTC user. Always had top end devices. Now looking for cheaper phone for staff.
I see lots of people have problems with one V dying from wrong button pushing.
Is it worth buying? Or should I look elsewhere.
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concreteman said:
I'm long time HTC user. Always had top end devices. Now looking for cheaper phone for staff.
I see lots of people have problems with one V dying from wrong button pushing.
Is it worth buying? Or should I look elsewhere.
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Definitely worth it. Go for it!
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concreteman said:
I'm long time HTC user. Always had top end devices. Now looking for cheaper phone for staff.
I see lots of people have problems with one V dying from wrong button pushing.
Is it worth buying? Or should I look elsewhere.
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If u r looking for a mid range andeoid phone...just go for it...
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It is a great phone indeed. And the community here on xda looks even greater. Good support, good devs, a plethora of rom's to choose from, Jellybean, 4.1.1, 4.1.2, etc...
At this price range, the One V kicks ass. Has a very beautiful display, a great camera, great battery (on stock at least) and a solid body.
take the plunge and buy one v!
There are better phones, personally i like the HTC ONE V(cdma) but there are better phones if you chose not to go with VM.
For the price, it is a really great, well made phone. Love the aluminum body, and the battery life is great. Sense is sluggish on the single core professor, but a pure jellybean ROM fixes that. Not sure what you are referring to with one button breaking the phone unless your talking about pressing up instead of down when booting into hboot. Not really a deal maker for me, I just don't press up when going into hboot
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This device is great for me. Mid-priced, a great camera and had a great variety of ROMs to choose. And the most important thing: DEVs on XDA of the One V is GREAT!
Thanks
Thanks for the input and response.
I picked up a mint 2nd hand sensation for the same price as a new One V.
it's my 3rd sensation and i know it will be a better fit for my staff member.
Yeah that QHSUSB_DLOAD bug is very annoying. I got it even spontaneously (my phone just crashed while I was playing a game, then it was bricked)
But I heard that issue is fixed in the newer boards.
when I had the stock Rom it was ... so so.. more towards the -ve side.. but with CM9 is amazingly good.
So with Stockrom its #fail.... with CM9 its #great
I won't say its a fail with stock/Sense ROM, but with CM it's better indeed
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I won't say its a fail with stock/Sense ROM, but with CM it's better indeed
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beauty is in the eye of the beholder! actually for me, the stock rom was too sluggish and I was thinking of dumping the phone.. however when I moved to CM9 it was like night and day.and I love it..
Tdj just stopped playing here in our forum and it's been months from him without saying a word. Does anybody know what happened?
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I think he stopped making roms to spend time with his family.
He traded his S2 for a gnex. He is retired, at least as far as the T989 is concerned.
Ah a promotion I see. I hope he comes to the t989 once again to really bring a significant development, I've seen a lot of great things happen in our dev forum, I also think tdj left too soon, but that comparison is just results of the ROMs we have. I think if tdj came back, he'll really make difference because he was a big wind in our forums in the gingerbread days.
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iwasblown said:
Ah a promotion I see. I hope he comes to the t989 once again to really bring a significant development, I've seen a lot of great things happen in our dev forum, I also think tdj left too soon, but that comparison is just results of the ROMs we have. I think if tdj came back, he'll really make difference because he was a big wind in our forums in the gingerbread days.
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He ain't coming back. He got tired of the flaming and BS to deal with.
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Tdj just stopped playing here in our forum and it's been months from him without saying a word. Does anybody know what happened?
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He's gone man.... I'm still using darkside too...
So many roms available I don't know where to start
I Just want S3 updates with good battery life...
TDj needs to come back! 1 last time :thumbup:
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Ah a promotion I see. I hope he comes to the t989 once again to really bring a significant development, I've seen a lot of great things happen in our dev forum, I also think tdj left too soon, but that comparison is just results of the ROMs we have. I think if tdj came back, he'll really make difference because he was a big wind in our forums in the gingerbread days.
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He's not coming back, sorry. He moved on to a GNex because he was getting flamed and people were flaming him. As far as I know, he's done devving in general, not just for the Hercules.
I read that he got mad of people ripping his work off, but he is a legend. I still go back to his work after i get tired of jb roms
I guess he's independent as a dev which explains why he ran out of time to play on our dev forum. Maybe he'll be back after a break plus discovery add improvement to our ROMs. He was innovative man, I guess it's harder to stay when a reliable and independent dev gets kanged and offended. I know there was a whole dilemma with Bosnia and beastmod because of the offense taken by the ROM and it's coding, back in those days everyone wanted to be Independent, today ROMs are enormous with devs and support and info. Hopefully the Hercules will last forever.
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Really ? Move on guys. People were flaming himand talking $hit all the time. If you loved him so much you should have stood up when it was time.
Since the point of my last thread was not answered, I thought I'd try again. (And yes, I do realize why.)
So without the passive disappointment, what's the road map in terms of ROMs?
I understand AOSP, and probably AOKP, are coming soon.
Anyone heard anything about MIUI?
Or a Phablet ROM?
Oh, and thread monitor, I'm not mentally ill.
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Once we get a stable AOSP rom, the ports will come out and yes that includes MIUI. And also........
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I am not going to flame you.
Listen, this is not an extremely popular device. It is a great device. Just not a very popular one in terms of sales in the US. With that you can go one of three ways. Wish for things that are never to come, switch devices, or learn something.
XDA has great and I mean GREAT resources. You just have to get out of the device forum to find them. Chances are you won't have to spend any money either(if you own a computer). Go check out the developer forums. They are full of tutorials. None of this stuff is rocket science. Most of it is just reading..... and copy and pasting because someone already did it first. If you break it your out 300 bucks tops on Craigslist. We will help you.
In the famous words of a fallen brother:
I'm Gonna Make A Change, For Once In My Life
It's Gonna Feel Real Good, Gonna Make A Difference
Gonna Make It Right . . .
I'm Starting With The Man In the Mirror
I'm Asking Him To Change his ways
And No Message Could Have been and clearer
If You Wanna Make The World a better place
Take A Look At Yourself, And
Then Make A Change
Yo I agree. I came from plenty of phones with lots of Roms and just general stuff to flash the only phone I've had that was this bland in dev department was my other LG's the revolution and the spectrum. **** even the vivid had crap development but was a he'll of a lot better than this and that phone was a he'll of a lot more hidden buy the one x than this should be from the s3. **** all I keep reading is how there are so many great devs with this phone but there isint even any good stock moded Roms or more than 1 kernel. I switched from the vivid an amazing phone just because lack of roms. And I might have to again. Its sad that a phone this super can still suck. One thing I have been seriously considering is the lgog to nexus4 hack. And just getting my fix that way I've been hoping to see someone do some fixing to the hack to give us full sd card space and capacitive button fix. And I would have done it already.
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**** I just checked the att side and they have way more work for the same dang phone. Even the Canadian edition has more work than us with the sprint. Its sucks for me considering I wanted the att edition. But was able to get the sprint edition for like 200 bucks cheaper than I could find the att. I just use my phone on WiFi so I don't care what service. But now how can I trade this for the att one? I can't that's how lol
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Look I come from the GNex which has a bunch of ROMs. I don't complain to much though because I know that they are waiting to get the JB source. I could always switch back to GNex but I don't because I know the devs don't want to work to hard on something when another better thing is coming out soon. And besides they are working on CM9 which is still something. This phone did not have really good sales to be having much support. At least we have it.
Oh and there is someone who did release a JB ROM. It's just really buggy.
In the past 2 months we have sold more optimus G's than any other phone in our store. The BOGO is really helping this great phone out.
BTW today I sold 6 optimus G's, 1 galaxy s3 and no other phone. This has been pretty consistent sense the first of the year.
If its been like this for most other stores then its just a matter of time before some kid or experienced developer gives this phone the spotlight it deserves.
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The AT&T OG and Sprint OG are not the same phone. Different radios, partition map to start. The Nexus 4 is also not the same device for the same reasons mentioned. A different partition map alone is enough to brick a device. The same thing applies to the GNex and other phones.
The LGOG software is broken. The source code is a mess. Joker has had to pull a number of fixes from from outside Sprint LGOG channels to fix things. Without a clean, stable and functional base, devs have had to spend more time fixing things than building ROMs. I personally have been building custom ROM's since the Palm T|C and the LGOG is by far the worst device I've ever deved on.
Not enough ROMs you say. Almost every stock based ROM is derivative and can hardly be counted as a true ROM. They are little more than themes and tweaks packaged as ROMs. Keeping that in mind the are only three true ROMs, Stock, AOSP and Hybrid. Everything beyond that is pretty wrapping.
If you consider build.prop tweaks, optimizations, ui changes and apk swaps a ROM then look at my Motorola deblur/debloat. It does all of those things on a dozen or more phones and is nothing more than a script. Calkulin did something similar over in Samsung land.
If you would like, I could very easily push out three or four different "ROMs" a day for whole week and turn this into the copycat nightmare the Evo 4G turned into. The other option is let us get a good stable stock base and AOSP base and let themers worry about what font or battery icon to use. BTW where are the themers, we could really use some.
I came from the photon and gnex ). Joker, marz, and shabby are 3 of the best devs I've encountered. With 2 out of 3 working on this device you know eventually we'll get something worth the wait.
I have a question for one of you though. Jellybean won't be out for a few months considering sprints rep for delayed updates could we expect to see aosp for ics and just not worry about jellybean for the moment? That would at least boost the amount of choices we have for now. enough to crave the flashaholics till work is finished with the jellybean based roms
Or was this the complications you were talking about? Even with ics
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Just look at it this way. Dragons are coming. every dev is going to jump start as soon as jelly hits. Right now it's all on LG and Sprint.
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sharkboy0901 said:
Just look at it this way. Dragons are coming. every dev is going to jump start as soon as jelly hits. Right now it's all on LG and Sprint.
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I'm content with what we have now. I have helped a few friends find ROMs for their phones, and like Loki pointed out, it can be a nightmare. There is no way to differentiate ROMs on some phones. This is the first phone I have had that Joker, Th3Bill and Loki have dev'd for, but xboxfanj is excellent. AdriVelasquez also strikes me as being a real solid dev for us, although I don't have prior experience with him either.
I guess the point of my post is to point out that things ARE in fact happening. The ROMs we have are great and stable. I have not found a single ROM that I couldn't work with for a week or more. That certainly cannot be said for most ROMs. With the Epic 4G, there were a lot of ROMs, but some that I flashed made my phone completely useless from the onset.
AOSP, AOKP, MIUI, CM and PA I think will all make it to this phone. Realistically, aside from these, I agree with Loki's assessment. There are ROMs only in the sense that somebody changed one thing in the stock experience. Those five are the ones that I am most concerned with because they offer such a unique experience to the user.
Loki is moving, th3bill is extra busy. Im working 2 jobs plus kids and without my build box ATM. Xbox is making great progress in a way that will help us in the long run. We have another kernel dev that's helping out now. So calm down and let us work
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I'm plenty calm just a little disappointed. But Im still here I guess I could be a better motivator than just bashing the overall development.
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I'm plenty calm just a little disappointed. But Im still here I guess I could be a better motivator than just bashing the overall development.
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Explain to me why you are disappointed? If you are so disappointed then where is your custom ROM?
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Explain to me why you are disappointed? If you are so disappointed then where is your custom ROM?
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If I knew how and had the capability I would be working on it. But I am a hardware guy give me a broken phone piece by piece and I'll make it a brand new phone. Its what I'm good at. Software is just super foreign to me. Not everyone Is good at everything.
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theshamrockking said:
If I knew how and had the capability I would be working on it. But I am a hardware guy give me a broken phone piece by piece and I'll make it a brand new phone. Its what I'm good at. Software is just super foreign to me. Not everyone Is good at everything.
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I think u should just dump this phone and get urself an S3 if u want roms, seriously. I'm so sick of the complaining! :banghead::banghead::banghead:
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toprock23 said:
I think u should just dump this phone and get urself an S3 if u want roms, seriously. I'm so sick of the complaining! :banghead::banghead::banghead:
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I'm sick of baby's who can't take some simple complaining. Its not like we're saying **** you all your a waste of a person. Were complaining that something we own and paid good money for is not like we would like it to be or what we were hoping it would be. Some of us have gotten used to the idea of many roms and lots of things happening. Its not fair to yell at us for wondering why it's not the same with this device. There is no need to be a **** and attack people. Were not attacking any developers at best we are attacking the general development on this phone. **** for all you know we could be wishing that more devs had this phone and things like that. Don't just decide we're dicks because we want something. Treat everyone with respect. That goes for devs and users.
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I'm sick of baby's who can't take some simple complaining. Its not like we're saying **** you all your a waste of a person. Were complaining that something we own and paid good money for is not like we would like it to be or what we were hoping it would be. Some of us have gotten used to the idea of many roms and lots of things happening. Its not fair to yell at us for wondering why it's not the same with this device. There is no need to be a **** and attack people. Were not attacking any developers at best we are attacking the general development on this phone. **** for all you know we could be wishing that more devs had this phone and things like that. Don't just decide we're dicks because we want something. Treat everyone with respect. That goes for devs and users.
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Wow u think ur the only one complaining? Obviously ur too lazy to read whats been going on. And I'm sorry but the price you paid for the phone doesn't come with awesome devs and all u can flash roms. The post u just started is like shoving **** back down our throats.
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Wow u think ur the only one complaining? Obviously ur too lazy to read whats been going on. And I'm sorry but the price you paid for the phone doesn't come with awesome devs and all u can flash roms. The post u just started is like shoving **** back down our throats.
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I'm not going to get pulled into a argument. Aparently you didn't get the point of my reply. Have a good day.
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I'm not going to get pulled into a argument. Aparently you didn't get the point of my reply. Have a good day.
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Theen what was the point, you know, besides being Captain Obvious.
Assimilated using the interface that interacts with the advanced internet.
Jesus, I wish I was a mod for this forum.
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i am rather desperate for a clean no bloat rom for the phone. I am willing to put into some money to get a dev to build one for us, is anyone else interested. I think this phone has some great potential but with no real rom choices. its kinda dead
I'm in the same boat I'm looking for a dev that still has this phone
Sense 5 just need a little work and if maybe we can find someone to do that .. Rather they charge us or not but its worth a shot .
Well I have been looking for the past two days its hard I really don't have the time if we can get a cm 11 build we could get a few more roms out of the phone then as well
That is a nice idea
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Not going to happen. Use the money for a new phone. Your fault if its an HTC.
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