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Hi all, I just got my vogue last week and have been fiddling with it ever since. I didn't like the fact that it didn't have WiFi. I heard that Spectec was working on a Micro SD WiFi but no one seemed to know were to buy it. I thought I would make it easier to find this information. Forgive me if this is already posted. I'm going to play test dummy and buy one of these soon. Pictures will come soon if all goes well!
Link to Micro SD WiFi Card
how do you plan on fitting your back cover on after that is inserted?
I will probably have to cut the side a little. I'm not sure yet. Ill know when it arrives what must be done.
Do you have a data plan? If so, then why not buy a phone with wifi?
WiFi would usually give faster connections if one was available. Also Why not? It seems like a fun thought.
sidroc said:
I will probably have to cut the side a little. I'm not sure yet. Ill know when it arrives what must be done.
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Yeah, you can always do something about that...
but what about storage space?
I don't think you need to cut the side. you can leave that side flap open and still have the back cover on. Although depending on how far that flap sticks out, I think solution would be prone to snapping it. you'd have to cacoon it somehow.
WiFi on the phone is pointless if you have a data plan. The newer models HTC Diamond and TouchPro have WiFi. But also think about the battery drain you would have when using WiFi.
True, I could just upgrade, or use my data plan for everything, but something about having wifi seems fun. If for anything, just to have it.
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WiFi on the phone is pointless if you have a data plan. The newer models HTC Diamond and TouchPro have WiFi. But also think about the battery drain you would have when using WiFi.
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Even with a data plan, it's not pointless if you travel out of country and want to use your Vogue.
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Even with a data plan, it's not pointless if you travel out of country and want to use your Vogue.
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Second that. It is necessary for travelling out of country - can then use for browsing, VOIP calling, etc.
I had been in contact with SpecTec for several months now and their Vogue "tester" was unable to get the SDW-823 to work with the Vogue. I said let me have on let me give it a shot to see if I can get it working and they shipped one to me which arrived today.
I've been playing with it and have gotten it installed (drivers, etc) and it phone picks it up however it can't find any wifi networks. I'm standing about 15' away from an access point which my laptop is connected to.
I've got some more playing to do and am going to try some 3rd party apps but I'm not really sure why it can't pick up any networks at this point.
I'll post a couple pictures here after while and let you see how much it stick out the side of the phone.
sticks out a little bit...
Nice, I haven't been able to buy mine yet, but soon I will.
I am wanting to go buy a TP2 from Telus because I've noticed the use of the SIM unit can be unbarred and let me use it on Rogers/Fido. What I want to know though is will the phone work with 3G on the Rogers network if I get it unlocked?
In all probability: No.
The specs list it as only 2100mhz for 3G. Now it is POSSIBLE that Telus asked HTC to disable the bands for Nort American 3G but included them so that they could be re-enabled when Telus gets their 3G network up and running. But there is no evidence to prove this is the case and even if it were, you'd have no way of reenabling those bands yourself as of this moment should they exist.
Time to move to europe I think.
2 things I wish people would give up on:
CDMA and the imperial measurement system
wcdma I agree with. But hey, that's exactly what Telus is kinda doing by implementing 3G.
And the imperial measurement is FUN! Horrible to memorize, but if you're in Canada and the US and you suddenly start using stones as a measurement, people just look at you in such a great confused manner that you can't help but smile
And let's face it. Monitors/TVs are going to continue with the imperial measurement system for a long long time to come... (I can't remember seeing non-imperial measurements for either product here in Mexico where they don't actually know what a foot or inch is as they have been using the metric system for ages)
All I know is a british pint involves more drinking!
I know cdma/tdma is superior in some respects but it's just not portable enough! Which is why businesses refused to use it in Australia and Telstra was forced to give up on it.
Then I move to Canada and after being there for a year they are bringing out this "new" thing called video calling that I had trialled 3 years prior in Aus.
Now 3G in Australia is just as hopeless as here. At least the drug dealers get some good education for measurements. (I'm referring to Ghostface Killahs song Kilo because "all around the world today the kilo is the measure, a kilo is a thousand grams, it's easy to remember", oh that song just makes me laugh.)
You want behind the times? Go to Latin America. 3G isn't fully implemented here yet. And prices are ridiculous. One advantage is that due to a weird economy, there are lots of pre-paid plans. I get great rates on prepaid/pay-as-you-go and if I choose to buy an unlocked version of a phone I don't have to feel too bad about the high price as getting it here would take a lot longer and be just as expensive if not more (the mogul is available right now in stores for around eighty bucks more than I'll be paying for the TP2).
And yes, as far as learning measurements, nothing beats drug trafficking, having a meth lab in your bathtub, and making home made explosives. Good famil fun
danyul said:
Time to move to europe I think.
2 things I wish people would give up on:
CDMA and the imperial measurement system
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Alas, metric will never take over the United States for one reason: it's easier to lose a pound than it is to lose a kilo.
Americans buy more exercise equipment per capita from infomercials than any other country and we do less exercise per capita than anywhere else (except Dubai, those lazy bastards). The economy would collapse while people were wondering why they can only lose 2.3 kilos per week with modern equipment when the old stuff would let them lose 5 pounds. Then depression would set in, everyone would go on an eating binge, planes would be falling from the sky because they couldn't handle the weight, type 2 diabetes would skyrocket and there would be a worldwide insulin shortage while our average age creeps back to preindustrial levels and we start rationing cemetery space.
On the upside, towards the end (of civilization) you could get an amazing deal on an ab blaster 7k.
Hahaha, best explanation ever!
However, if we could get Tony Horton on to metric weights then convince everyone to "bring it" then the world would be a better place!
I could just imagine him saying, "You know you used to lift 20, 25 pounds with P90X, but with P90XM+ you can switch it up to 25 kilos and be more buff than ever before. If you can't lift it to start with don't worry, just bring it and keep on workin'."
But Fortunz, think of it this way. That argument can be used in the opposite way:
"Oh dratz honey, I've gained weight. Oh well, it's than five kilos. I remember last Christmas I had actually gained ten pounds. Gods I love this new metric measurement "
The bigger population would mean charging more for bigger seats in planes, selling more food, and investing in new technology to handle the greater weight
But heck, it's going to stick around for a while now. Tell someone in Canada they're 183cm tall and sooo many people won't have any clue as to what you're talking about. I'm guessing it's the same in the US...
Also think about it, it'd be great for the snack and fatty food industry, people wouldn't feel so bad about eating stuff as it'd be less than half than it used to be numbers wise.
I went to a telus store and asked if the TP2 would work on it (since whenever they cripple a feature they just say it does not exist, like the fm radio that you can activate with a cab in the TP2 or the GPS on my old p4000 which I activated with a hacked rom). The clerk seemed to be a phone geek (finally not someone who knows nothing about phones and actually knows stuff like what bands telus operates on and such) who told me that they had gotten a memo from head office saying that if people ask, the answer was "we do not know yet". Now in a last twist, my buddy Nook found the spec sheet for our chipset and according to this, the chipset is capable of 2100mhz and 1900mhz UMTS (telus's new network). So where does this leave us? Well when they upgrade with the 6.5 rom and the network has been around for a bit, we will have a final answer, but until then we can just hope telus does not give us the shaft!
ps. if you want IR on your TP2 or any other phone, look at my ongoing project in my signature!
The chipset is capable of all bands and various combinations. But the question is which of them it is configured to handle IF there are any more than the one they say is there.
Though the "we do not know yet" comment implies that there is/will be more. But we still don't know. Though if I had to guess I'd say they have the 850+1900+2100 combination which would give them coverage for their own 3G network and would allow basic roaming in Europe, Asia, and some Latin American countries (if I remember correctly). Making it a an almost universal phone. But I have NO idea what would be needed to unlock any hiddenn bands, whether a new ROM, new OS, or to flash the radio.
Well it looks like I'm going to have to wait until near the olympics to get my new phone. It's a shame because my current artemis' battery is dying and there's no way I would give telus money for their current network.
Although if iGo My Way is ported to android then I will switch to that in a heartbeat. I love iGo, just I need a better phone to run it.
You might not have to wait that long...
http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/08/16/t...be-compatible-with-the-canadian-hspa-network/
It specifically mentions the BlackBerry Tour and BlackBerry Storm as being incompatible with its future hspa network. It doesn't specifically mention the Touch Pro2, which isn't much in and of itself, but coupled with the "We don't know yet " comment, it's quite possible the Touch Pro2 will be compatible in the future.
Successfully unlocked my Telus TP2, however, tried a brand new Rogers SIM right out of the package (came with a Blackberry of mine, never used) and it won't register on the network. However, same card in the blackberry reads "Sim not provisioned:2". I think I need to test with a friend's working rogers sim. All my friends are Telus and Bell...
If the TP1 is any indication, the component missing is the 850mhz power AMP
Its not because the chipset can do it that all the required components are soldered on the PCB.
Best thread I followed on the subject:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420865&page=40
So if you can find a teardown of the Telus TP2 we might find out =)
Well possibly. Except the thing here is that Telus is in a somewhat unique situation since they are CDMA adding/switching to HSPA soon. Meaning that they might have wanted to include the support even if it was locked in the beginning (like those infamous present but unusable gps capabilities on phones in the past). It's not certain. And I think the user on WMExperts who wrote a review for them of the Telus phone disassembled his phone. Maybe someone who knows more about the subject could contact him and ask him about the amp.
Hi guys!
So, AFTER agreeing to buy a T-Mobile TP2 for use up here in Montreal on Rogers, I have now learned that it won't work on Roger's 3G band. Brutal! I thought buying the US T Mobile version would be okay.
Oh well.
Now, I have a real-world usage question, for those of you using this device on the ATT/Rogers network...
Just how bad (or good!) is the speed? I really would love a straight answer here, and I think others would, too.
With my AT&T FUZE, the phone typically jumps from H to 3G; but mostly 3G. Nonetheless, surfing is really hit & miss. Sometimes I will wait soooo long for a message with a 1MB attachment to arrive, but other times, it's pretty quick.
I do like to tether my laptop to the device quite frequently, and when I download a file using Internet Explorer, I will get about 100Kb/s, right up to 250Kb/s. I think I once saw 300KB/S while downloading a large file, but it was rare.
I do get faster throughput when I tether via USB and not though bluetooth, of course.
So, my bottom line question is... If you see a 10MB file that you wish to download while tethering, and you are an AT&T or Rogers user using a T-Mobile version of the phone, then just how good or bad is the transfer rate?
I am really looking for some real-world examples, nothing theoretical.
After all, according to Rogers, their 3G HSDPA network is supposed to support 7.2Mbit/s, but give me a break. File, Save As, has never been that thrilling when I tether with my FUZE. And as I mentioned, could sit forever downloading certain emails, EVEN when I see the 3G logo!
So really, please share your bottom line experience with me... Tethering and/or surfing and downloading attachments with the device.
I know plenty of you are on AT&T and Rogers with a T-Mobile Touch Pro 2, unable to use 3G.
Are you guys dying to give it back, or is it pretty darn decent?
Honest answers would be really appreciated!
Thanks!
No matter what, since you got the TmoUSA version, you're stuck with Edge speeds since it doesn't work on AT&Ts 3G bands.
if you don't like Edge, return the phone & wait for AT&T or Rogers to release it.
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Hi!
I know I am stuck with EDGE speeds, I just wonder what that really means.
The good news is that the seller gave me until tomorrow to back out, with no problem at all.
So, part of me is saying, "BACK OUT! WAIT FOR THE AT&T VERSION WHICH WILL BE OUT SOON!!", but another part is wondering... Hmm... just how slow is the EDGE version after all?
I am anxious for a new phone. (And I already ordered several accessories! )
So, I just really want to know how 'bad' or 'slow' EDGE really is!
I have 24 hours to back out of the purchase! That's why I am posting here...
I paid $415.00 for a locked version. Add a few bucks to unlock it, and it's no real steal.
I wonder just how slow EDGE is, that's all! Let's see what others have to say!
Thanks again!
well if you do stick with it, I only tethered with Edge once or twice & it was unbearable for what i was doing. If you want to use the net though, I suggest getting Opera Mini or trying Opera Mobile 9.7 with the Turbo mode. This will make browsing faster.
here's for Opera Mini & the Jbed Java manager:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398567
Wow.
If you say that tethering with EDGE is unbearable, then forget it!
I will not buy the phone, and wait for the AT&T version.
Hopefully a few others will pipe in with some info overnight!
Looks like I think I will cancel the sale.. let's see what anyone else says. Thanks as always!
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Wow.
If you say that tethering with EDGE is unbearable, then forget it!
I will not buy the phone, and wait for the AT&T version.
Hopefully a few others will pipe in with some info overnight!
Looks like I think I will cancel the sale.. let's see what anyone else says. Thanks as always!
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Without going into any technical jargon EDGE is slow and on most networks real world average speeds are between 70 to 150 if lucky. When I was with ATT I used to get anywhere from 1.5Mb to 2.1.
The difference is clear. The rumour mill has it that ATT will release their version of TP2 in October. I'd return that baby and hang in there.
On a personal note: I ditched ATT to T-Mob to get the TP2. For the first time in years I'm able to watch youtube videos with little to no buffering. Also my Slingplayer no longer stutters when in control mode.
Not a lot of word out about AT&T's version lately.
It's worth noting that there have been a lot of news stories in the past week about AT&T's network not being able to handle the load of iPhone data and being very slow.
Another thing to remember here is that AT&T doesn't necessarily mean CDMA+GSM world phone .... you may be looking at the original GSM TP2 device here, with no 3.5mm jack if/when AT&T releases theirs
On a personal note: I ditched ATT to T-Mob to get the TP2. For the first time in years I'm able to watch youtube videos with little to no buffering. Also my Slingplayer no longer stutters when in control mode.[/QUOTE]
I agree with this! I'm using TMO this time around and I love the speed for both YouTube and my Slingplayer.
I'm guessing it's too late now but it really depends on your area. You should have taken your TP2 and tested it whilst in Montreal. Different carriers give different EDGE speeds, just like different carriers give different 3G speeds. Some people get easily over 200kbps. In which case it'd be like early broadband. But yeah, just because someone in Florida gets great speeds and someone in Seattle (random examples unrelated to reported performance or anything like that) gets horrible speeds doesn't mean that your experience will reflect either one.
Oh, and comments on ATT's capabilities to handle the traffic are irrelevant here as the OP is talking about Roger's network in Montreal.
Hi guys,
Thanks to the posts so far, my choice is clear!
I will use my FUZE for the next month or so, and await the AT&T version. It would be the height of impatience for me to buy an EDGE phone, knowing that a 3G version is just around the corner.
Also, based on the pics I have seen online, another HUGE plus on the AT&T version (IF the pics are legit), is that the top row of buttons is like the FUZE... ! @ # $ % ( ), as opposed to a row of numbers. The numbers on the AT&T TP2 are in a keypad formation, which I like more.
And as for the top row of keys, I LOVE LOVE LOVE having symbols there, accessible without hitting the shift key. (IF the spy photos are true).
I cancelled the order!
The only pain in the ass is that I already ordered two cradles, 5 clear screen protectors, 5 mirrored screen protectors, 5 extra magnetic styli, 3 batteries, 2 chargers, and god knows what else! So now I have to STARE at these accessories for a month or two, until I get the AT&T version. What a tease!
Thanks for all your help!
Well, at least the ATT version version seems to be the standard build/body unlike the Tmo version which is slightly longer. That means that the accessories should fit it without any big problems (you'll have a hole for the camera that isn't on the ATT version according to the pics, but hey).
Just set your FUZE to 2G EDGE only and see how it is for yourself.
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Just set your FUZE to 2G EDGE only and see how it is for yourself.
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Yes, I thought about doing that, but I wasn't sure how to definitively set this up. Despite many years of purchasing, upgrading, flashing, cooking, and tweaking these devices, I am still a little unsure how to definitively go into each of the various modes/bands (2G/2.5G/3G) and whether or not it would be an accurate test/assessment.
I figured it would be best to get people's advice who have actually tried tethering while on AT&T and Rogers.
Settings>Phone>Band>Select Network>GSM (or something like that)
I did the same mistake.. I bought the Telus version and unlocked it. I thought that I can live without the 3G because I don't browse much. I later realised that the EDGE speed isn't enough for the music streaming I usually do. I really love the phone but I'm thinking about selling it.. I bearly used it for a couple hours and put it back in its box. Still unsure of what I'm gonna do. But my guess is if your lucky enough to be able to back out, send it back. I had to pay $500 + $25 for unlocking. Probably not gonna sell for that much and I only got to enjoy it for an hour or too
Edit: BTW the EDGE speeds ranged from 150-230 kbits/sec which is about 20-30 KB/s when downloading compared to 350-400KB/s when downloading on my Diamond on 3G.
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I did the same mistake.. I bought the Telus version and unlocked it. I thought that I can live without the 3G because I don't browse much.... BTW the EDGE speeds ranged from 150-230 kbits/sec which is about 20-30 KB/s when downloading compared to 350-400KB/s when downloading on my Diamond on 3G.
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WOW, that is exactly the answer I was looking for (or should I say, NOT looking for!)
Sorry to hear about your situation. Not cool, of course.
I did get my money back and was able to back out, no questions asked.
Downloaded at 30 KB/s is brutal. I know you are not the only one to make this mistake.
All I know is that I hope Rogers/AT&T really come out with their own version... because otherwise, I'll have tons of accessories to sell!!
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WOW, that is exactly the answer I was looking for (or should I say, NOT looking for!)
Sorry to hear about your situation. Not cool, of course.
I did get my money back and was able to back out, no questions asked.
Downloaded at 30 KB/s is brutal. I know you are not the only one to make this mistake.
All I know is that I hope Rogers/AT&T really come out with their own version... because otherwise, I'll have tons of accessories to sell!!
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Lol yeah I hope a 3G version does come out. I use the pro2 from time to time I love the RAM, keyboard and screen side of the phone but when I'm fed up with EDGE I use the Diamond. I must say though that if you need 3G for browsing primarily, the speeds are good enough especially on Opera (thumbs up for Opera). When it comes to streaming its so so..
I say if you can hold back, wait for a 3G version so you dont regret anything.
Good luck buddy.
Hi guys, my mother work at the airport of montreal and several days ago she find a HTC Evo 4G. She try to join the person impossible because there's a pattern to draw. She bring it back home since it was totaly impossible to call anyone and that no one call. That HTC is from spring and spring are in the USA at the beginning i tought that we could just replace the sim card, but I discover that this phone has no sim card on it. Now here is my question. Is there a way to pull out the sim card or is there a way to remove the lock that is set on it ?
Guys no answer with ''oh you should bring it back or call the company" look she found the phone no one call we try to join now that we have it we would like to use it.
Thank you.
Okay, I'll bite.
DISCLAIMER: I work for a vendor for Verizon tech, so I do know this stuff, but I am not speaking on behalf of Verizon Wireless in any way, all this knowledge is my own, for your personal benefit.
The EVO is a CDMA/Wimax phone. CDMA (Code Division Multiple Access) is a totally different technology than GSM (Global System for Mobile Communications). CDMA phones do NOT utilize SIM cards. The only phones that are CDMA that have a SIM card are Verizon's 4G LTE phones (and the sim card is for the 4G radio in an LTE phone). Make sense? CDMA = no sim card, ever, cannot work overseas (i.e. Verizon and Sprint). GSM = yes, these phones use SIM cards. AT&T and T-Mobile are both GSM, as are most networks outside the U.S.
Fun fact: CDMA is a more secure connection and cannot be "tapped into" or "hacked" as easily as GSM.
Edit: Yes, Verizon has phones that can use both Cdma/Gsm connections, but there are very few. I am not sure if Sprint has any, but the EVO is certainly not one of them.
Also no one could help you out for the fact that would be stealing. Also the person that lost the phone can have the location sent to their gmail if they know what to do. Otherwise it should remain in lost and found so when the person call to see if its there they can find it.
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ummm......you should bring it back or call Sprint. Although I will say it sounds like you are surrounded by some lucky people. Mom found Evo and you posted a few months back girlfriend found a phone in cab that you couldn't unlock either.
Umm yeah, what you are asking is stealing, and is illegal. Either take the phone to a sprint store, or take the battery out, write down the esn, and call sprint at 888-211-4727 and tell them you found the phone, they will ship you a box to send it back to them.
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lEdit: Yes, Verizon has phones that can use both Cdma/Gsm connections, but there are very few. I am not sure if Sprint has any, but the EVO is certainly not one of them.
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The Photon is a "worldphone"
Turn it in at a sprint store
Hey, don't listen to these guys. Stealing is perfectly okay. After all, there's no such thing as karma, right? Just solder a GSM radio into place where your CDMA radio goes and you'll be good to go!
^^sarcasm.
The photon... hmmmm i need to play around with it. I really hate motorola's just because all my friend's phones have ruined the experience for me.
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The photon... hmmmm i need to play around with it. I really hate motorola's just because all my friend's phones have ruined the experience for me.
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A lot of people are saying its the best phone they've ever used.
It has vanilla android with a Motorola launcher I believe.
All bloatware is uninstallable.
Very surprising. good info, for sure. I will have to pick one up and mess with it. Hopefully they do not break like all of the droid franchise
yeah definitely just call sprint and have them walk you through it although the guy from verizon has a point it wont do you any good unless you are living in the US since the phone will never ever pick up any signal overseas
If your mom work in an airport she should of done the right thing and turned it in not take it home. Well I'm glad I got sprint family locator and where's my Droid app to find my phone !
Sent from my White Evo 4G
I like the lookout plan b. nice and sneaky. always leave your gps turned on. hehehehehehehe. OP, you should be glad you don't have my phone right now...
How do you want me to take the phone to a sprint store i live in canada and this is a US store I mean do you really think that they will send somebody in canada to take back his phone come on.... Anyways I found a way to change the carrier and unlock it.
Thanks guys
call them and they will send you a return kit will cost you nothing to ship it back
by the sounds of it, you said his phone, you sure you dont know who's it is?
To start this is on the AT&T Note 5 64Gb bought yesterday. When I am on cellular data my web browsing experience is just fine. The second I turn on WiFi however it takes exponentially longer to load web pages.
It makes no sense because I am sitting here with my iPhone 6 Plus and it works just fine. Is there a way to fix this? I am quite upset right now that I dropped $400+ on a device that cant even do simple WiFi browsing.
And for those who need more info. I have changed DNS, made IP Static, cleared cache of phone and Chrome. The network is 2.4ghz and no other networks nearby are on my channel. I have no clue what to do here(ex Apple user)...
Sound like AT&T thing. MO money in data then WiFi. IPhone's sxxk ups. I remember it wasn't long they had android high speed cut back. Thinking it was around when Motorola Atrix first cane out. Just to sell more IPhone's
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Well I have some more information now...
I took out my sim card and the WiFi works great. I can browse the web really fast, the play store icons load quick and there is no lag at all. What the heck could cause that????
Also no way they would be trying to get money from me(unless they are dumb) cause I have unlimited data.
I just put back the sim and the problem is back. Are these phones that poorly designed that they cant have a sim in at same time as WiFi?
FINAL RESULTS: The sim card that was shipped to me is dead. I took out my family members sim and tried it in my phone and all works well. Shame on AT&T for this one. The phone was fine they made the mistake.
Does anyone know how to re-provision it or do I have to take it in now.
Not sure what you mean when you say the sim card is dead. Easiest thing may be to just get a new sim card since they are free. You can activate it at the store or over the phone.
Well they replaced the phone and it was working well in store. I get home and do the AT&T update and now the same issue has appeared. Is anyone else on the newest version and having issues???? This is the only thing that could cause the issue. Is there a way to revert to the old system version because this is not acceptable!