[Q] Why did 5GHz wi-fi support get dropped?? - Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I got my DINC shortly after they became available in May 2010. If I recall correctly, the OS at launch was 2.1.
It wasn't too long before 2.2 was pushed as an OTA upgrade. Maybe September of that year, ish? (Maybe I'm mis-remembering, and it launched with 2.2 and the OTA upgrade was to the first version of 2.3.)
Regardless, one thing I thought was odd about that first OTA "upgrade" was that while my DINC supported 5GHz 802.11n with the original OS, that capability was removed from the "upgraded" version. Only 2.4GHz n was supported.
The OS has been updated OTA again since then, and today of course there's CM9 and there are even JB ROMs available.
However, I've never seen 5GHz 802.11n supported since the launch OS.
What gives? Clearly the hardware supports the capability. Why have none of the custom ROMs re-enabled that support? Is that something that the community is reliant on HTC to deliver GB, ICS, or JB drivers for, and if HTC never does, then we'll never have that capability back?
Just curious....

MysticCobra said:
I got my DINC shortly after they became available in May 2010. If I recall correctly, the OS at launch was 2.1.
It wasn't too long before 2.2 was pushed as an OTA upgrade. Maybe September of that year, ish? (Maybe I'm mis-remembering, and it launched with 2.2 and the OTA upgrade was to the first version of 2.3.)
Regardless, one thing I thought was odd about that first OTA "upgrade" was that while my DINC supported 5GHz 802.11n with the original OS, that capability was removed from the "upgraded" version. Only 2.4GHz n was supported.
The OS has been updated OTA again since then, and today of course there's CM9 and there are even JB ROMs available.
However, I've never seen 5GHz 802.11n supported since the launch OS.
What gives? Clearly the hardware supports the capability. Why have none of the custom ROMs re-enabled that support? Is that something that the community is reliant on HTC to deliver GB, ICS, or JB drivers for, and if HTC never does, then we'll never have that capability back?
Just curious....
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I wasn't aware the phone ever supported 5ghz WIFI-N. You are right that the Dinc launched with 2.1 (Eclair) and had an OTA to 2.2 (Froyo) later that year. We didn't get GB until November 2011.
Looked up bcm4329 (our wifi chipset) and it supports 5ghz n. Have you tried my latest gingertiny kernel on sense to see if it will connect at 5ghz to a n router?

tiny4579 said:
I wasn't aware the phone ever supported 5ghz WIFI-N. You are right that the Dinc launched with 2.1 (Eclair) and had an OTA to 2.2 (Froyo) later that year. We didn't get GB until November 2011.
Looked up bcm4329 (our wifi chipset) and it supports 5ghz n. Have you tried my latest gingertiny kernel on sense to see if it will connect at 5ghz to a n router?
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I have tried it and it does not even see the network. It will only connect to a 2.5 N network at a max 72mbps. I have even tried to manually connect to it, but it just tries to connect over and over again with no success. It would be totally awesome if it would work though.

tiny4579 said:
I wasn't aware the phone ever supported 5ghz WIFI-N. You are right that the Dinc launched with 2.1 (Eclair) and had an OTA to 2.2 (Froyo) later that year. We didn't get GB until November 2011.
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Thanks for clarifying the history--I couldn't remember exactly.
And I may be mis-remembering the exact sequence of events. Doing some Google searches, it sounds like N support wasn't present in 2.1...that was touted as a new feature in 2.2, from what I read.
I did not have an N router when I first got my phone, but when I did get my N router, I would swear that I remember being able to see both the 2.4 and 5GHz SSIDs on my phone. I remember setting up my wifi so that I had my clients "compartmentalized", with the router set to support N-only devices on 5GHz (my phone and laptop), and the 2.4GHz net was set to support legacy G devices as well as N.
At some point, I'd swear an OTA update broke my 5GHz support on the phone. I distinctly remember lamenting about the loss to a friend at work!
I'd swear that I'm not dreaming this, but now that I'm looking I can't find anything in Google referring to the DInc ever having 5GHz support.....am I going insane? I wish someone else would jump in and say, "No, I used to have 5GHz support on my phone, too!"

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Froyo 2.2 ROMS - Android WiFi Tether?

I've tried the stock rooted Froyo 2.2, Ava Froyo 2.2, and OMJ Froyo and the all work great (thanks everyone) but seems like Android WiFi Tether doesn't work on any of them. Is anyone experiencing this?
Actually WiFi Tether works but my laptop can't catch the signals whereas it does on OMJ 2.1fine.
same here
I unfortunately have to agree with you...wireless tethering just does not work yet with this new kernel. I have tried all the same HTC froyo roms as well... I can broadcast and my WiFi device can see it and try to connect but cannot get an ip address ..always 169... I hope this gets fixed soon
I don't use tethering that much anymore (now that I'm not in high school) but once I start college next month I'll need it more than ever, so idk if I should flash 2.2 yet. From everything I've read nobody's gotten it to work on any froyo roms yet.
first, q and a, not development, is where this should have been posted.
second, i'm on cm6 nightly 7/29, with the new radio and wimax flashed over it. i had no problem at all using the froyo hotspot (obviously not sprint's, bc no sprint packaged material is on the cm6 aosp release). it's not 4g, but it works. i tethered my ps3 with no issues at all.
im in same boat... once i head back to college i'm going to want to take advantage of the unlimited 4G... and without wifi tether thats going to suck.. hopefully someone can figure this out -
maybe someone will make a kernel with it enabled based on whatever in 2.1 that allows it ...?
does PDANET work? anyone who upgraded?
this is in wrong section but I used version 2_0_5-pre4 and it works fine. right now on Stock Froyo rooted but switching to Fresh 3.0 beta 2 in a few min
cyanogenmod's rom has working tethering. doesn't have 4g or sense, but wifi tether works, as does everything else.
werid
weird, still not working for me, I am going back to 2.1 OMJ for now, I need my free 4G WIFI TETHER DEVS!
I don't really care about tethering, but can you get any of the fps "fixed" kernels to work on any of the 2.2 roms?
Sent from my HTC Supersonic (Evo 4G) from XDA app
Does the wireless tethering capability that comes stock with Froyo not work for you? Works fine for me in CM6.
Need some time?
The leak has only been released less than 2 days therefore obviously still have a lot of issue with old APP. just give the Developers sometime and I am certain they will come up with something. Beside the leaked 2.2 floating around is not really a final copy anyway so what's the point of working so hard on something that will be replace in a few days. Think all the Developers should just give themselves a beer, sit back relax to calm down their nerves so that their brains will be working at 100% when the final release come out.
Oh,
mrkmrk said:
Does the wireless tethering capability that comes stock with Froyo not work for you? Works fine for me in CM6.
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Didn't try that but does that work with 4G too? (if you didn't sign up for 4G?)
clayginn said:
this is in wrong section but I used version 2_0_5-pre4 and it works fine. right now on Stock Froyo rooted but switching to Fresh 3.0 beta 2 in a few min
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Can you give specifics of your setup? I tried the Evo-Froyo-2.2-Rooted-Stock-3.26.651.3-Deodexed ROM (with latest radio + wimax) but could not get version 2_0_5-pre4 to work. It starts wifi tethering BUT my laptop cannot find /discover it.
Thanks.
dan0412 said:
Can you give specifics of your setup? I tried the Evo-Froyo-2.2-Rooted-Stock-3.26.651.3-Deodexed ROM (with latest radio + wimax) but could not get version 2_0_5-pre4 to work. It starts wifi tethering BUT my laptop cannot find /discover it.
Thanks.
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Me too.. yes sir.. it no work
he is probably on cm6. you cant really compare the two roms since sprint has its hand in locking up a native feature of the device for profit. we probably need the kernel tweaked by one of the devs in order to get this working.
Yeah, my laptop cannot see it either.
gregnice631 said:
he is probably on cm6. you cant really compare the two roms since sprint has its hand in locking up a native feature of the device for profit. we probably need the kernel tweaked by one of the devs in order to get this working.
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I think so too... must be CM6.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App.
zedomax said:
Didn't try that but does that work with 4G too? (if you didn't sign up for 4G?)
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Everyone with an Evo on Sprint is "signed up" for 4G. It may not be available where you are at, but you are paying for it and "signed up" for it.
i ended up purchasing pdanet for tethering. was only 18.95. to be honest this phone is great, but we all know the battery's shortcomings. im ok with killing 2 birds with one stone by tethering usb and charging the phone at the same time . Any solution is cheaper than sprint's recurring tethering charge.
Does pdanet allow tethering over 4g in a 2.2 rom? If so, what speeds are you getting?

[Q] Incredibles wireless N & multi stream networks?

Hi, hope I post this in the right place, This is a rare occasion when I have a problem that no one has posted before me. Anyway here goes. HTC Incredible-unrevoked forever- stock 2.2 or virtuous 2.6 themed with revolution- either way since the 2.2 update I cannot connect to WIFI at my school. I can connect everywhere else on N, at school I can view the networks but it will not connect. I talked to the Network Admin. there and he said they have not changed anything in a year so, Its defiantly the phone. It did work at school pre 2.2 update. The Admin. there said they run a gigabit multi stream network. Some peoples laptops mine included do not work there either. he said you must have a multi-stream network adapter. Anyway so my question is since it used to work is there anyway i can get it working again without giving up 2.2 and reverting to 2.1- because there is no way I'm giving up 2.2. thanks for reading my long post and anybody s help would be appreciated.
The Incredible only supports SISO (single in, single out) so, no, you won't be able to connect on the N network.
thanks for helping out. do you know if i could revert back to the wifi protocol for 2.1 it worked then. basically could i disable N
It should be backwards compatible with B and G.
I thought so too, but I was able to connect everyday when I was on 2.1 b/g specific now with N enabled I can view all the networks but not connect. It's crazy. I am barely into my first networking class so I don't know the benefits, if there are any to multi stream all I know I have a $850.00 Samsung laptop and droid Incredible that cannot connect it. By the way I'm a non- traditional student. I'm 31 so i have to buy my own toys+ pay the mortgage.

IPSec VPN reboots phone when used on 3G

Hi all,
For me one of the big draws to the Galaxy Nexus (and, more specifically, Android 4) was the inclusion of "proper" Cisco IPSec support. I've been using it over wifi to great effect since I got the phone earlier this week and was really happy.
Was out and about today for the first time since I had the phone and decided to give it a try. I was disappoint to find that, although the VPN comes up ok, as soon as you try to pass data down it (e.g. Wyse Pocketcloud or even a simple website), the phone immediately reboots.
Rather annoyingly, this seems like a known issue:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=23404
Can anyone else confirm this and does anyone have any ideas for a fix or workaround?
Thanks,
Daern
Same here, IPSec with Xauth PSK.
No workaround but I was thinking to try old good get-a-robot-vpnc but didn't bother yet hoping this to be fixed. Get-a-robot-vpnc might work as tun support is compiled into ICS kernel and busybox on rooted devices provides all commands it needs to bring tun interface up and install routes.
hmm i've been using IPSec with Xauth PSK to Cisco on 3g & 4g and have not had any issues.
Bone stock/non-rooted 4.0.2 VZW.
use wyse pocketcloud, proprietary app, and http/https without issue.
I'm still on 4.0.1. What about the OP?
crimper said:
I'm still on 4.0.1. What about the OP?
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Colleague has 4.0.1 (the volume fixed second version). I have 4.0.2 applied directly from the Google images page. Both do the same.
Interestingly, someone on the Android issues discussion is reporting that AOSP 4.0.3 roms dont have this issue. I'll certainly test this when I have 5 mins.
jkhouw1 said:
hmm i've been using IPSec with Xauth PSK to Cisco on 3g & 4g and have not had any issues.
Bone stock/non-rooted 4.0.2 VZW.
use wyse pocketcloud, proprietary app, and http/https without issue.
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Betting good money that the key fact here is the different underlying 3/4G hardware and drivers that the LTE version inevitablly has...
Update:
Have installed 4.0.3 (Open Kang Milestone 1) and can confirm that the VPN no longer reboots on 3G.
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How To Enable Wireless N

how do i enable wireless n on rooted evo 4g 4.54.651.1 android version 2.3.3
underhardware info i only see 802.11b/g thats why im asking
I remember a long time ago that the evo's wifi chip can't do 5ghz wireless N, it can however do 2.4. Not sure if it needed anything special on the stock rooted rom but on cyanogen i can see mine @ 2.4ghz
From what I have read in the past EVO's used to have N drivers but were later taken away. I know most sense roms have fixes that get N jamming again. Check out tommys classic for one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312414

WIFI FREQUENCY BAND (feature) MISSING AFTER UPDATE

Galaxy S3 - I747 - URGENT!!!!!
WIFI FREQUENCY BAND (feature) MISSING AFTER UPDATE!! -------->Kernel Version: 3.0.8-985684 - BUILD # IMM76D.I747UCALH9
Under the 'WiFi Advanced Settining' Menu >
These are the default options which are supposed to be available :
- Network notification:
- Keep Wi-Fi during sleep
- Auto Connect
- Wi-Fi Frequency Band: Specify Automatic, 5 GHz, or 2.4 GHz frequency bands <-- THIS OPTION (feature) IS MISSING!!!
- Mac Address
-IP Address
Why did samsung remove this very important feature (Wi-Fi Frequency Band) with this new update?
How am I supposed to chose between Auto, 2.4GH and 5GH connection now?
Will you put it back?
Any OAT to fix the problem?
CAN ANYONE AT SAMSUNG EXPLAIN THIS?
I HAVE CALLED AND CHATED W/ SAMSUNG SUPPORT, BUT NOBODY CAN GIVE ANY INFO.
So are you saying that you can no longer see 5 GHz bands? Or only the option is gone?
And which update did you install? Ics or the leaked jb? If you installed the leak jellybean update don't expect any support from Samsung. it's a leak.... Not final, not supported to be in the public's hands, not even known to customer support.
if the option is gone it should be set to automatic which would be both bands, look in the network list for your 5ghz band.
Sent from my SGH-I747 using Tapatalk
It was an OTA from AT&T, that was released about a couple of weeks ago: I747UCALH9
The option to choose from auto, 2.4GHz or 5G is gone. But why to eliminate it?
I still connect at 5G, but want to have the option to choose from as I had before.
And why nobody at Samsung or AT&T know anything about it?
Just means you can't filter the scan between 2.4 or 5Ghz. You will still be able to connect to either one.
There is an app that will give you much more accurate results while its scanning anyways.
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Thanks.
I would just like to know why they would take this function away from the phone, why would it help to not have it....
there is an app for that. I happen to be its developer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1891970
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@OP
I have unrooted AT&T i747 as well. Since that update, I've lost the option to specify 2.4 or 5.0 GHz bandwidth, plus I no longer see 5.0 or can connect to 5.0 bandwidth. I can only connect at 2.4.
This was noted on this forum when the update came out a month ago.
There was a solution that someone came up with, but it required root access. I had wanted to keep my phone stock until after the official JB release.
Further, it's been reported that on the international SIII, with the official JB update, driving mode is taken away. I don't understand updates that take away options features that work. I'd like to see a solution for the unrooted phone that brings back the ability to specify WiFi bandwidth.
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I turned off the 2.4GHz band on my router and left only the 5GHz available. I was able to connect w/ the 5G band and it's a good connection,
no problems that I can notice. I didn't try the 2.4GHz connection.
If you can only connect w/ 2.4GHz you should contact Samsung, something is wrong.
I did contact Samsung, they said that they had nothing to do with update & to contact Google.
Not very helpful. I'm hoping it comes back with JB otherwise I see a custom Rom sometime in the future.
but if u r not able to connect to the 5GHz band, u should contact your provider, they have to do something about it.
i hope u r still under warranty!
It's entirely software related. The update took away the driver / OS API that enabled that option. Why? No idea other than to dumb down the phone.
I can remedy this by rooting and installing the bandwidth selection app that was posted earlier. I saw that individual's thread right after the initial update. This is my first android phone and I would like to keep it stock for as long as possible to see what ICS offers as well as JB. Only after running stock for a bit, will rooting make sense to me as well as flashing a custom rom. I'll be able to appreciate more what the custom rom offers. I'm not a developer, just an end user.
I just noticed my option is gone also. I can't even connect to a 5GHz network now. The Nexus 10 running 4.2 has the option. Is there an issue that caused the 5GHz to stop working?
Are you running an at&t phone? The last ota took the option away. I have no idea why they would take away an option that has been a standard option for all android phones.
I had hoped that JB would bring the option for 2.4/5 bandwidth, but it doesn't. Have you tried a factory reset? I have not. Not sure if a reset will bring the option back.
There is a forum member that wrote a program to bring it back but you need to be rooted. The forum member seemed to indicate that the last ota broke the api for the 5 GHz bandwidth and that he wrote the program to put it back. At least that's what I understand of it. I would like to see a version for an unrooted phone.
Factory Reset Will Not Help
No, factory reseting the phone it will not help.
I did it twice.
Thanks. Saved me the time & effort.

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