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I'm scared about rooting my HTC Desire.

I just saw a post on Lifehacker, using unrevoked3 to root my desire (id give a link but im new and apparently not allowed), and this seamed like a nice simple process, so i thought id give it a go. but before i do, i just have a few question that id really love a detailed answer or two to, if you would be so kind.
1. Am i going to brick my phone and cry because i bought it unlocked and cant get it replaced because im a poor student?
2. What the hell is this Radio business?
3. Can i put it back to normal so i can get back to OTA updates from HTC when they finally come to there Senses with FroYo (get it )
4. Am I going to lose all my stuff because i cant back it up before i root.
Thats basically it, if you can answer that, id be incredibility incredibility grateful.

Peelypeel said:
I just saw a post on Lifehacker, using unrevoked3 to root my desire (id give a link but im new and apparently not allowed), and this seamed like a nice simple process, so i thought id give it a go. but before i do, i just have a few question that id really love a detailed answer or two to, if you would be so kind.
1. Am i going to brick my phone and cry because i bought it unlocked and cant get it replaced because im a poor student?
2. What the hell is this Radio business?
3. Can i put it back to normal so i can get back to OTA updates from HTC when they finally come to there Senses with FroYo (get it )
4. Am I going to lose all my stuff because i cant back it up before i root.
Thats basically it, if you can answer that, id be incredibility incredibility grateful.
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1. if u follow the steps exactly as explained, and never touch the phone when it is installing flashing formatting etc etc then u get 99.9% u wont brick it
dont worry im also a student and i bet theres more of us here
2. hmm not sure how to explain what a radio is
3. yes u can, but dont see a reason why, cuz devs update roms quicker and add more functions to them
4. if you just root then no you wont loose your stuff, if you want to install a custom rom then yes you will loose it but you can always back it up using free rommanager back up

This is the main reason why I haven't rooted my Desire yet, despite 1 or 2 friends urging me to. They have Heros. I haven't got the money to replace it and seen as it's on contract I'd be pretty screwed for the next 13 months or something.

Don't worry
Understandable.
I was thinking the same.
It was when I run out of space to install apps and gmail stop working bcoz of low memory space warning.
I decided to take the plunge.
Used unrevoked to root my desire and installing my second rom today lol.
Oh and the radio is the file that contains radio setup for froyo roms.
the one you need for froyo rom is version 5.xx. eg. 32.42.00.32U_5.09.00.08.
so if you are going to install froyo based roms then you need the radio file update or all hell breaks loose.
you can update the radio then install the rom or the other way around up to you.
have fun and ask if you need help.

Was in a similar situation and finally took the plunge today.
Was 10x easier than I thought it would be. Follow the guides and you can't go wrong.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Radio is the part that handles WiFi, gps, 3G and all that stuff. E.g. you have low WiFi signal, you can update the radio to fix it.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App on LeeDroid 1.4a

Ok guys thanks for all the replies, I'm.defiantly doing it now, my phone alarm has failed to go off too many times now (hey any excuse to convince myself to do it lol) and I want to see if a new ROM will fix it.
Shall I go for OpenDesire or CyanogenMod? I want froyo, and I want it stable (preferably I would still love sense if that's possible).
Also on a side note, I don't want to appear idiotic, I know what a radio is, I just wasn't sure what everyone meant by "update" it, and why you have to do of separately to flashing the ROM.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App (thanks for the tip due this app )

The ROM's here don't include the radio hence why you need to update the radio seprately, most, if not all, the froyo ROM's will need the latest radio.

Peelypeel said:
Ok guys thanks for all the replies, I'm.defiantly doing it now, my phone alarm has failed to go off too many times now (hey any excuse to convince myself to do it lol) and I want to see if a new ROM will fix it.
Shall I go for OpenDesire or CyanogenMod? I want froyo, and I want it stable (preferably I would still love sense if that's possible).
Also on a side note, I don't want to appear idiotic, I know what a radio is, I just wasn't sure what everyone meant by "update" it, and why you have to do of separately to flashing the ROM.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App (thanks for the tip due this app )
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Bugs are to be expected but many fixes are to be expected too
opendesire from what i've heard but they lack sense i think, i wanted sense so i chose neophytes rom (it does slow down when i DL stuff from the market sometimes though, i should report it to him)
You flash a radio like a rom, just use unrevoked to do it
BTW use unrevoked with the rooting, easiest thing ever

jacketyjoe said:
Bugs are to be expected but many fixes are to be expected too
opendesire from what i've heard but they lack sense i think, i wanted sense so i chose neophytes rom (it does slow down when i DL stuff from the market sometimes though, i should report it to him)
You flash a radio like a rom, just use unrevoked to do it
BTW use unrevoked with the rooting, easiest thing ever
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Is this Neophyte?
showthread.php?t=732246 (i cant post links yet, im sure you can work that out though)
and how do i flash the radio with unrevoked3, where do i even get the radio... file?
Sorry about the questions, normally id just go barrelling into to something like this and work it out as i went, but this is serious stuff this time. I want to be sure.
Thanks again

**** i pressed "SIMLOCK" in the hboot thing, wtf have i done. it said it did something.

Peelypeel said:
**** i pressed "SIMLOCK" in the hboot thing, wtf have i done. it said it did something.
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i think it means you just locked your phone to the simcard that was in your phone at the time. Rooting it should unlock it again though
BTW here is an unrevoked guide, neophytes ROM and the radio (use the latest, not the leaked one), follow all the instructions to the letter and you should be fine (follow unrevoked's rom flashing instructions for the radio though, thats how i did it and gawd was it easy)

Thank you very very much. With those guides in hand I'm about to do it. See you on the other side ha ha
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Peelypeel said:
Thank you very very much. With those guides in hand I'm about to do it. See you on the other side ha ha
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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I'd tried the other way first and my phone wouldn't root (i was really really frightened when a HTC logo came up and stayed on for a whole 24hrs) so i tried unrevoked and it worked like a charm
Lets hope everything goes a bit smoother for you than me

That really was one of the easiest things i've ever done. Thank you so much for all your help, and the ROM suggestion, loving the new sense.

Peelypeel said:
That really was one of the easiest things i've ever done. Thank you so much for all your help, and the ROM suggestion, loving the new sense.
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no trouble then, nice to hear
Have fun, i love it

Sorry to ask a stupid question, can i root my desire, keep my current OS as it is and still get the OTA update to 2.2 as it would if my phone wasn't rooted?

I would try the modaco custom rom, search for it. Its based on the latest leaked rom from HTC so its stable, its froyo, it has sense as well as the new 2.2 features like tethering, new widgets, 720p video etc etc
i rooted my phone at the weekend and im loving it!

SteveEdson said:
I would try the modaco custom rom, search for it. Its based on the latest leaked rom from HTC so its stable, its froyo, it has sense as well as the new 2.2 features like tethering, new widgets, 720p video etc etc
i rooted my phone at the weekend and im loving it!
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Agree, also have the modaco ROM. Best thing is that you bake your own rom and only put items that you really need.

Peelypeel said:
I just saw a post on Lifehacker, using unrevoked3 to root my desire (id give a link but im new and apparently not allowed), and this seamed like a nice simple process, so i thought id give it a go. but before i do, i just have a few question that id really love a detailed answer or two to, if you would be so kind.
1. Am i going to brick my phone and cry because i bought it unlocked and cant get it replaced because im a poor student?
2. What the hell is this Radio business?
3. Can i put it back to normal so i can get back to OTA updates from HTC when they finally come to there Senses with FroYo (get it )
4. Am I going to lose all my stuff because i cant back it up before i root.
Thats basically it, if you can answer that, id be incredibility incredibility grateful.
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Well mate.. I was pretty much in the same boat as you.. Student, wanting to root my phone, didn't know what all the stuff was.. And I'll try and rectify it for you as much as possible, following your points .
1. If you follow the guides which have been put up by unrevoked, or the guide on this forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189 or our lovely friends over at android.modaco http://android.modaco.com/content/h...e-now-with-hboot-0-80-and-os-to-1-21-support/ then you shouldn't have a problem at all. I was feeling the same way, was confused and really didn't want to risk the rooting process.
2. The Radio.. It's not like a Radio which we use to tune in to FM and AM, think of it as something to help other processes work in the phone. Be it Wifi, 3G, HSDPA, GSM.. All these get updated with the new ROM's (Froyo) and they need the Radio to make them run smoother, and better. Think of a Radio as a driver when you're updating something on a computer. But BE CAREFUL when flashing the Radio, DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT touch the phone until it has completely finished booting (2 or 3 times, you'll know when it's finished).
3. You can put it back to normal any time, just by flashing an older ROM on to it, just have a look at some of the official RUU's on this forum.
4. The sort of stuff which you're worried about are photos, text messages and apps? Best way for this is to invest in MyBackupPro, where you can back up all of your texts online etc. For apps and all, why not download ASTRO from the Market? It can back up all your apps and install them again no problems.
I hope this helps
Dan

Rooted EVO, want to install Gingerbread... Basic ROM?

Alright, so I have honestly looked every where and read as much as I can.
I have a Rooted EVO with the stock ROM. I really want to update to Gingerbread but am very confused. I do not want to lose my rooted status and I do not want a ROM with a bunch of MODS. I just want a simple stock ROM with Gingerbread and Root access. Is this possible. I am confused by everything I read and do not want to brick my phone.
Will updating my phone with the OTA while Rooted ruin my phone? Will I be able to keep my root status?
Thanks!

everythingtonothing.com said:
Alright, so I have honestly looked every where and read as much as I can.
I have a Rooted EVO with the stock ROM. I really want to update to Gingerbread but am very confused. I do not want to lose my rooted status and I do not want a ROM with a bunch of MODS. I just want a simple stock ROM with Gingerbread and Root access. Is this possible. I am confused by everything I read and do not want to brick my phone.
Will updating my phone with the OTA while Rooted ruin my phone? Will I be able to keep my root status?
Thanks!
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Lol wow dude you're gonna get flammed but ya just download one of the stock roms on here there are about 4 of them posted with the new gb update from sprint. Just download and flash via recovery also update your radio, Wimax, etc its pretty easy
Edit: here's a link to a completely stock gb update
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038701
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

OMG.....Great Rom..Still has brightness bug though, can you plze fix. Battery life is great.
On a Serious Note: Is The Search button not working?
On a Side Note: The Noob video needs to be played on login to all members that dont have a post count of at least 40. Even if they signed up before the rule.

ThatSmartB0y said:
OMG.....Great Rom..Still has brightness bug though, can you plze fix. Battery life is great.
On a Serious Note: Is The Search button not working?
On a Side Note: The Noob video needs to be played on login to all members that dont have a post count of at least 15. Even if they signed up before the rule.
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Lol ya I felt bad for him so I helped out a little but I really wish people would read
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

There are two different rooted versions (with very minor modifications) of the new stock Gingerbread ROM (anything with the labeled "Sense" is based on HTC's ROM's, though some of them are based on ROM's from other phones), both on the first page of threads in this forum. Look for "4.22.651.2" in the thread subject--and yes, those will keep your phone rooted and S-OFF. I believe there's a third thread with a method of updating without a flash, and yet another with minor modifications to the stock ROM (the Titanium-X ROM).
By contrast, anything that says "AOSP" is based on the Android Open Source Project, and therefore quite different from an HTC ROM, though all functions work on many of them (but there is some debate on how well the various radios work on AOSP ROM's).

Okay maybe I had that coming or maybe I just didn't phrase the question right.
I looked at the page linked above before I posted this and I read it all and still was confused. I guess I am looking for the idiots guide to doing this. I don't feel confident enough on my own.
I DID read, ALOT, and I looked at all the posts that are suggested when posting a new thread.

everythingtonothing.com said:
Okay maybe I had that coming or maybe I just didn't phrase the question right.
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They are referring to the fact that this thread is for development only. For future reference you can avoid being flamed by posting in the Q&A section.
Don't worry to much about these guys, they lurk and jump at the chance to show off their supremacy over noobs.
Another word of advice would be to hit the thanks button for mtknife for his helpful and humble response.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

Alright will do!
I thought the Q&A was for other basic questions. My error.

Do you have the latest recovery installed of RA or Clockwork ?

I have clockwork i believe. I just did what I think is a nandroid backup, I went into recovery and did backup.

That's always smart so you are doing good so far. What you want to do now is download the zip file and place it on your SD card. You can download it directly on your phone if its easier for you (wifi recommended). Just follow the link posted by dodgerbluehero above and I would recommend starting with the odexed version.
Now go into recovery and choose flash from zip - then - choose zip on SD card. Navigate to the downloaded file and hit the power button to select it and again to confirm. It can take a few minutes to write the files so just leave it alone. It will tell you when it's done and you can reboot.
These instructions are from my memory but should be pretty close. You would typically want to wipe but the dev says not to worry about it if you are coming from a stock rom.
Give it a shot, you will be fine. Pm me if you have any questions because the mods will probably close this thread soon. Good luck!
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

what confuses me is where it says "firmware". Do I still have to install that or just the ROM??

The firmware is optional. You can install the rom and then decide if you want to flash the radio as well afterwards.
After you flash, the first boot sometimes takes a little while. Just let it do it's thing. You will be happily surprised how easy this actually is to do.
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but what benefit does it have? is the radio i have not as good?

Some people get better results with signal/3g speeds/wimax. The consensus seems to be that it varies by phone and area.
You can flash the rom without also flashing the radio and be just fine. Stop worrying and take the leap.
On the other hand this may not be for you.
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Well I appreciate the time you spent explaining it. I just don't have the money to buy a new phone if I brick it. I rooted my phone on my own but never did any rom updates. I am going to try it once it downloads. Thank you again.

Oh one more thing, be sure that your phone has plenty of charge to make it through the flash and restart or that could lead to bricking your phone.
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augy said:
Oh one more thing, be sure that your phone has plenty of charge to make it through the flash and restart or that could lead to bricking your phone.
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Agreed, at this point in the game, that's about the only way to brick your phone. It's one of my personal favorite little jokes when clockworkmod asks me are you sure? This cannot be undone! Darn near everything can be fixed thanks to this awesome community!

Root
Thanks to everyone for keeping this going it has helped me so much. One quick question I have installed the ROM and the firmware but I see in the apps things like the blockbuster app and wanted to remove it. I cant seem to uninstall it so I thought it wasn't rooted properly. I tried using Unrevoked3 on it but it failed stating
Error: failed to get root. Is your firmware too new?
am I forgetting something simple or do I have to try and downgrade the firmware?
Thanks,

dmort said:
Thanks to everyone for keeping this going it has helped me so much. One quick question I have installed the ROM and the firmware but I see in the apps things like the blockbuster app and wanted to remove it. I cant seem to uninstall it so I thought it wasn't rooted properly. I tried using Unrevoked3 on it but it failed stating
Error: failed to get root. Is your firmware too new?
am I forgetting something simple or do I have to try and downgrade the firmware?
Thanks,
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I think I recall seeing something about that error on the unrevoked website. I'm out and about right now but I'll check on it when I get home, but in the meantime if you wanna do some digging, I'd start there

[Q] Prblems with G2 using 1.8GHZ overclock

Hi guys, first post on here. This sight is the best resource for info! I have a G2 running the virtuous fusion ROM... Yesterday I loaded the 1.8KHZ overclock kernel and now the wifi doesn't work and I can't watch movies off the net or youtube. Any ideas would be super helpful since I really am just a noob at all this! Thanks in advance!

Sorry, I forgot.... The weather live wallpaper stopped as well. That was my favorite part of the fusion ROM.

Hi, welcome to the forums.
Fusion is dead I would suggest you switch to unity http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1115333 is much much more stable and is full of lots of awesomeness. You will need to switch to the DZ hboot to use it though there is an easy to follow guide here http://www.virtuousrom.com/2011/06/t-mobile-g2-users-migrating-to-desirez.html
What kernel did you flash? On sense roms you must make sure you a sense kernel.
If you need help getting unity running head over to the virtuousrom irc channel http://www.virtuousrom.com/p/chat.html
Do Androids dream of electric sheep?

I really dont know whick kernel it was. As I said, I am a complete noob to all this. It is the one that gives the choice of 1.9 or 1.8 GHZ. I wanted to try the Unity, given I saw those cool updates ( the blue and red), but it says u have to use 2 sd cards and that scares the crap outta me. Again, newbie. lol

coachmoore said:
I really dont know whick kernel it was. As I said, I am a complete noob to all this. It is the one that gives the choice of 1.9 or 1.8 GHZ. I wanted to try the Unity, given I saw those cool updates ( the blue and red), but it says u have to use 2 sd cards and that scares the crap outta me. Again, newbie. lol
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Do you have adb installed?
Do Androids dream of electric sheep?

I am so sorry, man... I dont even know what that is. I installed everything and rooted it using a computer, USB cable, and clockmod recovery going by the instructions on this message board. I have seen that before but not really sure what it is. BTW, I really appreciate your help, i'm learning as I go. Just dont wanna brick my baby.. lol.

Or maybe the better question would be, what would be the best way to install unity on here now? Do I need to uninstall fusion first etc. And will it mess up my overclock?
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

Just found it on my SD card... The overclock kernel is amazinglarry.
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cjward23 said:
What kernel did you flash? On sense roms you must make sure you a sense kernel.
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I think this is your main problem. I am guessing you used Flippy's kernel (linked below), which is an AOSP kernel. You need a Sense one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=839687
It also sounds like you need to do more reading. You're messing with things without fully understanding what you are doing, which is trouble. Also, you need to keep track of what you have done. Otherwise, when you have problems, its hard to help you when you don't know how you rooted, what kernel you flashed, etc.

coachmoore said:
Just found it on my SD card... The overclock kernel is amazinglarry.
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Our posts crossed. I guessed wrong on what kernel you were one. But amazinglarry is based on pershoot's, which is also AOSP. This is the main reason your phone is messed up.

coachmoore said:
Or maybe the better question would be, what would be the best way to install unity on here now? Do I need to uninstall fusion first etc. And will it mess up my overclock?
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The kernel is already messed up, since you are on the wrong kernel. When you flash Unity, it will overwrite the kernel as well. Unity is OC'ed to 1.2 GHz out of the box. But I believe the built-in kernel supports up to 1.7 GHz.
You can flash Unity straight from ROM Manager. But I think the version on their is usually behind what is posted on the Unity thread or the website. Just download the zip, put on your SD card, and flash from Clockwork. I'm not sure if you need to wipe data (if Fusion is similar enough to keep it). But its safest to wipe it. Always wipe dalvik and cache when flashing a new ROM.

coachmoore said:
I am so sorry, man... I dont even know what that is. I installed everything and rooted it using a computer, USB cable, and clockmod recovery going by the instructions on this message board. I have seen that before but not really sure what it is. BTW, I really appreciate your help, i'm learning as I go. Just dont wanna brick my baby.. lol.
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Adb = android debug bridge. It is basically a link between your computer and your phone it is an invaluable tool, check out this guide to get it set up http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865685
Do Androids dream of electric sheep?

thank you, thank you, thank you, for all your help, man. I know I should have done all that but being a newbie dummy I wasn't thinking, just wanted to do it. If I do Unity, will setcpu do the overclock or will I need to get somrthing else and do you really need 2 sd cards to do it? I saw the post on how to install it and it called for 2, needing the 2nd for HBOOT or something. Anywhere you may guide me to learn more on how to CORRECTLY do this one? LOL! Also, when and if I do it, do I need to remove fusion before or after I do it or will it just over write it?

coachmoore said:
thank you, thank you, thank you, for all your help, man. I know I should have done all that but being a newbie dummy I wasn't thinking, just wanted to do it. If I do Unity, will setcpu do the overclock or will I need to get somrthing else and do you really need 2 sd cards to do it? I saw the post on how to install it and it called for 2, needing the 2nd for HBOOT or something. Anywhere you may guide me to learn more on how to CORRECTLY do this one? LOL! Also, when and if I do it, do I need to remove fusion before or after I do it or will it just over write it?
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Be sure to click the "Thanks" button on posts you found helpful.
Just rushing forward and "doing it" is not the right way to go about these things. Read up BEFORE you start. I did a couple hours of reading at least before even starting the root process on my phone. If you don't understand what you are doing, you are going to brick your phone.
If you look at the Unity information on the Virtuous website, you will see that it comes with a built-in overclocking application. SetCPU is NOT recommended, since its actually responds much slower to screen state changes.
http://www.virtuousrom.com/p/unity_23.html
I have a Desire Z, so I didn't need to flash the Desire Z HBoot. But I would think you can do it all with one SD card.

[Q] Can ya help a 13 year old install a rom please?

Hi!
i'm 13 years old and I just bought my Samsung Galaxy Nexus after saving for it for since Christmas and birthday money!
i tried to post this in his thread but i got rejected from making it in the Development section cos i dont have 10 posts.
I would really really like to install molesarecoming's [ROM] PARANOIDANDROID [TABLET/HYBRID] ROM because I think it looks well cool!
I think i can do it via the Nexus toolkit but i dont understand what molesarecoming means by needing to;
Install Rom (MAGURO/GSM): MF
Install Gapps: MF
Install Fix (MAGURO/GSM): MF
Wipe cache
Wipe dalvik cache
Fix permissions - this one can take a long time, dont get scared!
The cache i can wipe via the toolkit right?
also, when i read through his thread [some of it - over 100 pages!!] i saw people mention kernals and basebands and aokp. i dont understand what they are but i understand that i can do them through the toolkit. i've read through the rooting guides and stuff but i dont have any programming understanding.
am i way too much young for this or can it be done? i admit i am not too good with this. but i really think his [rom] looks well good!!
my mates older brother got the HTC One X and he keeps telling me i got the crap phone but i think the Nexus is nicer to hold and i can always put a new battery in when it runds low!! and i dont like HTC's overlay (called sense?).
please guys, can you help?

Ok so Please get this http://dottech.org/tipsntricks/2153...ows-computer-for-use-with-your-android-phone/
As your first task
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

Thanks!! i will have to do it tomorrow after school because my mum says its late.
Thank you very much for helping me!!

No problem kid
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

Johnny-D99 said:
Install Rom (MAGURO/GSM): MF
Install Gapps: MF
Install Fix (MAGURO/GSM): MF
Wipe cache
Wipe dalvik cache
Fix permissions - this one can take a long time, dont get scared!
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All of this can be done in a custom recovery such as ClockWork Mod. You can use the toolkit to unlock your bootloader, root the phone & (I think) install CWM recovery as well. If CWM recovery is not installed via toolkit - once you have root find an app in the Play Store called "Rom Manager" and install ClockWork Mod Recovery that way. Once you are in recovery: the fist thing you should do is make a backup, also called a Nandroid. You will need this Nandroid backup encase anything goes wrong in the future you can revert back to a stable state. After the backup has completed: the ROM, Gapps & fix all have their own .zip file which you can "flash", you will see options to "Install .zip from..". Flash each .zip. then you will see the options in recovery to "wipe cache", "wipe dalvik cache", and "fix permissions". I think the "fix permissions" option may be in the "advanced" menu. Make sure you have a full battery before attempting any of this, and do ALLOT of reading before attempting. Get as familiar as you can with the different terms and processes before you do your flashing. Again, reading and reading is the best advice I can offer.. There are many users here who are much more knowledgeable than I am, and all the info you need is already here somewhere in these forums, I'm just trying to get you started in the right direction. Good luck.

Johnny-D99 said:
Thanks!! i will have to do it tomorrow after school because my mum says its late.
Thank you very much for helping me!!
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Lol, well I guess Root N' Flash really is growing among the masses.
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Johnny-D99 said:
am i way too much young for this or can it be done? i admit i am not too good with this. but i really think his [rom] looks well good!!
my mates older brother got the HTC One X and he keeps telling me i got the crap phone but i think the Nexus is nicer to hold and i can always put a new battery in when it runds low!! and i dont like HTC's overlay (called sense?).
please guys, can you help?
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No, not too young. Just be careful and make sure you do read and understand everything before you become overconfident or impatient and flash carelessly.
Don't listen to your mate's older brother, he's a turd

13 year olds installing ROMS...this is why Android will surpass iPhone. The whole argument of you need to be a rocket scientist to use Android will die very soon.

HeCareth said:
13 year olds installing ROMS...this is why Android will surpass iPhone. The whole argument of you need to be a rocket scientist to use Android will die very soon.
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So many little kids buying and jailbreaking iPhones though...

HeCareth said:
13 year olds installing ROMS...this is why Android will surpass iPhone. The whole argument of you need to be a rocket scientist to use Android will die very soon.
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Ha...rocket science I think no
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martonikaj said:
So many little kids buying and jailbreaking iPhones though...
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jailbreaking is child's play. You have to be a preteen to root n flash android
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HeCareth said:
13 year olds installing ROMS...this is why Android will surpass iPhone. The whole argument of you need to be a rocket scientist to use Android will die very soon.
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I'm not impressed until we get 8 y.o. devs up in here.

I remember when I rooted my first android phone. I was thirteen when I rooted the Motorola Devour. It was an awful phone. Not a single ROM or Mod available, but at least I could debloat it. If you don't want paranoid android, I'd recommend regular CM9.
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Congratulations on getting your Galaxy Nexus! Don't worry, it's an amazing phone (even compared to the likes of the HTC One X) and many people will only purchase from the Nexus line, myself included. Having the pure Google experience and getting updates straight from Google are well worth it. Before you start on the rooting / unlocking process, listen to everyone else here; do as much research as you can. It can seem intimidating at first but in the long run you will have a deeper understanding and it that be very beneficial. It can also be the difference between a phone running a custom ROM w/ an unlocked bootloader or ending up with a brick
msedek and WiredPirate gave you info. that is need-to-know. Learn what you can about ADB, fastboot and recovery. Those three things are what you will be using all the time to flash ROMs, radios, etc. Before flashing each ROM make sure you select the option in recovery to wipe data / factory reset. Or you can download a Super Wipe file made by a developer named Mike and flash that. This basically gives you a clean slate so then you can flash your new ROM.
If you have any questions at all please do not hesitate to ask and any one of the members here at xda will be glad to help, enjoy

Ngo93 said:
Congratulations on getting your Galaxy Nexus! Don't worry, it's an amazing phone (even compared to the likes of the HTC One X) and many people will only purchase from the Nexus line, myself included. Having the pure Google experience and getting updates straight from Google are well worth it. Before you start on the rooting / unlocking process, listen to everyone else here; do as much research as you can. It can seem intimidating at first but in the long run you will have a deeper understanding and it that be very beneficial. It can also be the difference between a phone running a custom ROM w/ an unlocked bootloader or ending up with a brick
msedek and WiredPirate gave you info. that is need-to-know. Learn what you can about ADB, fastboot and recovery. Those three things are what you will be using all the time to flash ROMs, radios, etc. Before flashing each ROM make sure you select the option in recovery to wipe data / factory reset. Or you can download a Super Wipe file made by a developer named Mike and flash that. This basically gives you a clean slate so then you can flash your new ROM.
If you have any questions at all please do not hesitate to ask and any one of the members here at xda will be glad to help, enjoy
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This guy is correct however when there is an update for a rom most of the time if you just wipe cache and your dalvik cache, flash the rom update and then gapps again, then fix permissions you should be good to go.. This can be done for updates UNLESS the dev explicitly states that a full wipe is recommended or when you are changing a rom (say you want to change from paranoid android to aokp rom you would need to full wipe)
Time to get PARANOID bout your ANDROID

p00kienrayray said:
I'm not impressed until we get 8 y.o. devs up in here.
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Lol that made me laugh
- Google

>>>Thank you to everyone who has replied and helped me so far! you Guys are all awsome!! <<<
Special thanks to msedek x2, WiredPirate, p00kienrayray, Ngo93, joshndroid for giving me advice and stuff.
ok, so i am making a list of what to read and i have come up with this list;
1) msedek's - link that he posted at me in this thread.
2) Evostance's - [HOW TO] Unlock Bootloader & Root GSM Nexus.
i found this in mohitrocks [INFO][GSM] **COMPLETE OVERHAUL** ROMS,KERNELS, RECOVERIES + more NOW COLOUR CODED!
3) Mskip's - [GNex TOOLKIT V6.1] Drivers, Backup, Unlock, Root, CWM, Flash, Mods + MUCH MORE [GSM]
because WiredPirate says i can use the toolkit to unlock the bootloader, root the phone and install CWM recovery as well. he also said that getting familiar with different terms and stuff and says to read up on the forums as much as possible.
4) Google about ADB, fastboot and recovery and try to understand as much as possible and if i have questions ask you guys.
>>>(you guys are Awsome people!!)<<<
5) joshndroid mentions updating ROMS. erm, i think i need to read alot on this cos i dont understand it very well.
sorry.
wow, this looks hard. if i start bugging you guys too much just say so cos i think i am alot confused. i dont
think i am ready to install/flash just yet. i think it will take me a while to go over these guides and any other guides you think i should read.
like all of you guys said, read and understand <<(the hard bit) before trying anything. I will!!!
btw, erm, in the future when i have a question, should i "update post" or "post a new reply", i'm not sure what is good manners and i dont want to... (four letter word, sounds like "crisp") you guys off!!
Thank you guys once again!
oh and by the way, ill try and get my 8 year old brother into developing for Android!!! [joke in response to p00kienrayray].

Johnny-D99 said:
>>>Thank you to everyone who has replied and helped me so far! you Guys are all awsome!! <<<
Special thanks to msedek x2, WiredPirate, p00kienrayray, Ngo93, joshndroid for giving me advice and stuff.
ok, so i am making a list of what to read and i have come up with this list;
1) msedek's - link that he posted at me in this thread.
2) Evostance's - [HOW TO] Unlock Bootloader & Root GSM Nexus.
i found this in mohitrocks [INFO][GSM] **COMPLETE OVERHAUL** ROMS,KERNELS, RECOVERIES + more NOW COLOUR CODED!
3) Mskip's - [GNex TOOLKIT V6.1] Drivers, Backup, Unlock, Root, CWM, Flash, Mods + MUCH MORE [GSM]
because WiredPirate says i can use the toolkit to unlock the bootloader, root the phone and install CWM recovery as well. he also said that getting familiar with different terms and stuff and says to read up on the forums as much as possible.
4) Google about ADB, fastboot and recovery and try to understand as much as possible and if i have questions ask you guys.
>>>(you guys are Awsome people!!)<<<
5) joshndroid mentions updating ROMS. erm, i think i need to read alot on this cos i dont understand it very well.
sorry.
wow, this looks hard. if i start bugging you guys too much just say so cos i think i am alot confused. i dont
think i am ready to install/flash just yet. i think it will take me a while to go over these guides and any other guides you think i should read.
like all of you guys said, read and understand <<(the hard bit) before trying anything. I will!!!
btw, erm, in the future when i have a question, should i "update post" or "post a new reply", i'm not sure what is good manners and i dont want to... (four letter word, sounds like "crisp") you guys off!!
Thank you guys once again!
oh and by the way, ill try and get my 8 year old brother into developing for Android!!! [joke in response to iGoogleNexus].
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Also remember.. You will have to wipe your phone clean when you do flash a new ROM. That means losing all of your apps, which means progress in games, etc. I personally just run stock. Should you do something like CyanogenMod 9 nightlies, you will only have to do a full wipe the first time. Every following nightly, just wipe the cache and dalvik, then flash the ROM. Re-flashing gapps isn't necessary with CM9 nightly to nightly updates, contrary to what was posted above.

Check my sig buddy.
I don't know if you're rooted or not.
But post 2 details actually installing a rom.

Just use the Toolkit bud, I believe it's version 6.1 by now. Took me all of about 15 minutes to go from a stock Nexus, to running AOKP with Franco's kernel. All thanks to the Toolkit and CWM. Good luck.

Jubakuba said:
Check my sig buddy.
I don't know if you're rooted or not.
But post 2 details actually installing a rom.
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Do not use toolkits thats the fast way to brick your phone, get the adb and fastboot i told you on my first post and then follow this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23229558
To root and get cwm
Then we can continue....
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msedek said:
Do not use toolkits thats the fast way to brick your phone, get the adb and fastboot i told you on my first post and then follow this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23229558
To root and get cwm
Then we can continue....
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Um...
Agreed?
My sig doesn't link to one of those fking things.
Edit:
Oh.
You linked to my tutorial.
Haha, my bad.
My tut will also get ADB and fastboot.
Whatever you find easiest, OP.

Scared of Rooting

Hi,
I had a Wildfire S a few months ago, which I had owned for about 4 months (The Wildfire S was terrible) so I decided to root it.
To say I was happy after I had rooted was an understatement, I flashed CM7 onto the device, which extremely improved the phone.
The problem was, as soon as I flashed it, i started developing problems (not rom caused) such as a constant noise when in calls etc.
Now, my question is I own a HOX, which is an absolute epic phone to say the least.
I really want to use Vipers ROM / PerfectAndroid etc, but am so worried about rooting the HOX.
Is it worth rooting the HOX? What can go wrong and what can I expect to happen if I develop issues? (LIKE LAST TIME )
Thanks in advanced.

Wilks3y said:
Hi,
I had a Wildfire S a few months ago, which I had owned for about 4 months (The Wildfire S was terrible) so I decided to root it.
To say I was happy after I had rooted was an understatement, I flashed CM7 onto the device, which extremely improved the phone.
The problem was, as soon as I flashed it, i started developing problems (not rom caused) such as a constant noise when in calls etc.
Now, my question is I own a HOX, which is an absolute epic phone to say the least.
I really want to use Vipers ROM / PerfectAndroid etc, but am so worried about rooting the HOX.
Is it worth rooting the HOX? What can go wrong and what can I expect to happen if I develop issues? (LIKE LAST TIME )
Thanks in advanced.
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All of the ROMS for the HOX are really good, if you're worried might I suggest ARHD as it's the closest ROM to stock there is, aside from Maximus ROM.
If you follow my guide (in my sig) then the rooting will be okay
It's really not that hard

The-Last-Hylian said:
All of the ROMS for the HOX are really good, if you're worried might I suggest ARHD as it's the closest ROM to stock there is, aside from Maximus ROM.
If you follow my guide (in my sig) then the rooting will be okay
It's really not that hard
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Thanks for your reply mate, I know rooting isnt a huge process in itself. Its just knowing that if (when?) something goes wrong with my phone, im totally screwed for the warranty.
Which may cause me not able to get replacement/fixed under warranty?

Wilks3y said:
Thanks for your reply mate, I know rooting isnt a huge process in itself. Its just knowing that if (when?) something goes wrong with my phone, im totally screwed for the warranty.
Which may cause me not able to get replacement/fixed under warranty?
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unlocking your boot loader will void you warranty, but if you have a fault less hox like i got then go for it
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Is it worth it? Always personal ofcourse. Do you want to make backups? Lots of customizations? Just root to delete some system-apps or to install an add-blocker? Get the bloody fast Jelly Bean?
In my opinion: GO FOR IT
I don't know how old your One X is, but perhaps it's wise to wait a couple of weeks to see you have any faults.

Wait one or two weeks to see if it has any faults.
If it's faultfree then go root it
I tested mine 12 days before unlocking the bootloader.
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It's not actually true that it'll void your warranty. Well not completely anyway, more often than not HTC will honor the warranty if it's a hardware issue, if it's software and it's messed up because you fscked up your HOX then it's on your own head... but it's incredibly hard to do so, it's pretty hard to completely brick a phone if you read and follow the guides and if you manage to brick it then you shouldn't even be holding it!
At least that's the general consensus nowadays...

Huubs said:
Is it worth it? Always personal ofcourse. Do you want to make backups? Lots of customizations? Just root to delete some system-apps or to install an add-blocker? Get the bloody fast Jelly Bean?
In my opinion: GO FOR IT
I don't know how old your One X is, but perhaps it's wise to wait a couple of weeks to see you have any faults.
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My HOX is about 2 months old now, and seen no issues what so ever. I want to be able to customise it to be honest, thats about it. It runs smooth and fast as it is, but I get bored of things so easy and the Sense UI etc is boring me to death now .
And thats another thing putting me off rooting mate, JellyBean is (Should be) just around the corner? So don't know whether to wait, or Root
Flo95 said:
Wait one or two weeks to see if it has any faults.
If it's faultfree then go root it
I tested mine 12 days before unlocking the bootloader.
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I have had my phone longer than that, but still very very worried about rooting.
The-Last-Hylian said:
It's not actually true that it'll void your warranty. Well not completely anyway, more often than not HTC will honor the warranty if it's a hardware issue, if it's software and it's messed up because you fscked up your HOX then it's on your own head... but it's incredibly hard to do so, it's pretty hard to completely brick a phone if you read and follow the guides and if you manage to brick it then you shouldn't even be holding it!
At least that's the general consensus nowadays...
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Ah I see, do you know of any cases where the hardware has gone wrong, and HTC have still honored the warranty even though they were rooted?
Was reading a thread of someone having a convo with HTC, and they adimantly stated that if the bootloader is unlocked you are not covered by warranty, and my understanding is that the bootloader HAS TO BE LOCKED to be rooted?
Thanks all !

It is worth doing it, yes.
I waited tree months staying on stock, but rooted, then i decided to install ARHD 2.3.2. Stock was already very good but a custom rom gives the HOX the rest to be the best phone on market. Battery life increases, the handling is even more fluid and laggless as before.
What can going wrong? Well, the most common failure is to forget flashing boot.img as a separate step, because this is unusual against the procedure done with desire or others.
Also restoring a nandroid backup also requires to flash boot of the backup separately. If you keep the boot images at your PC and the ROM Zips on your device, you are well prepared to do this.

Hi mate,
Yes I will make sure to back EVERYTHING up. I have a couple more questions.
I have seen people saying flash RUU, Flash Kernal, etc.
I don't know what the RUU is and im not very informed about Kernals, I know the ROM is the OS, the Kernal is the Driver? I think (NOT A CLUE ABOUT RUU)
And I have heard of battery life getting drained much quicker etc after root? Or people developing signal problems etc.
Finally, if I do root, and decide I don't like it, can I revert to stock and retain warranty?
Again thanks for all the help so far guys !

had 3 phones...last one had a big gap on the left hand side and had issues with power button. had phone unlocked and rooted...left the phone unlocked but flashed back the stock rom that came with the phone...send it to the repair center and the phone came back brand spanking new and still unlocked and everything was covered by the warranty. as long as you do not fry the motherboard due to overclocking and you are careful what you flash and take time to read and search of what you want to do i say you are good to go mate...and like i said few minutes ago to someone else..if you want to customize and love playing with different themes then Viper is your rom...if you want a clean cut rom but still with the tweaks from Viper then ARHD or Renovate are the great roms and far more faster if you ask me...
plus do not forget there is MIUI based on sense framework which for me is awesome and has so many themes and lockscreens to play with and also JB roms to

Goku80 said:
had 3 phones...last one had a big gap on the left hand side and had issues with power button. had phone unlocked and rooted...left the phone unlocked but flashed back the stock rom that came with the phone...send it to the repair center and the phone came back brand spanking new and still unlocked and everything was covered by the warranty. as long as you do not fry the motherboard due to overclocking and you are careful what you flash and take time to read and search of what you want to do i say you are good to go mate...and like i said few minutes ago to someone else..if you want to customize and love playing with different themes then Viper is your rom...if you want a clean cut rom but still with the tweaks from Viper then ARHD or Renovate are the great roms and far more faster if you ask me...
plus do not forget there is MIUI based on sense framework which for me is awesome and has so many themes and lockscreens to play with and also JB roms to
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Bah everyone is telling me to Root it, like I said yeah I wan't customisation with themes etc, which Viper has really drawn me into, but on the other hand I want a clean and bugless rom, that just WORKS GREAT.
Thanks for your example of warranty, thats sorted my head out a bit.
Will probably take the plunge within the next few days, and give it a go.
Just building my confidence up to do it !!
THANKS SO MUCH EVERYONE !

Wilks3y said:
Bah everyone is telling me to Root it, like I said yeah I wan't customisation with themes etc, which Viper has really drawn me into, but on the other hand I want a clean and bugless rom, that just WORKS GREAT.
Thanks for your example of warranty, thats sorted my head out a bit.
Will probably take the plunge within the next few days, and give it a go.
Just building my confidence up to do it !!
THANKS SO MUCH EVERYONE !
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no problem my friend. here is a good start up guide for you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/HTC_One_X

Wilks3y said:
Bah everyone is telling me to Root it, like I said yeah I wan't customisation with themes etc, which Viper has really drawn me into, but on the other hand I want a clean and bugless rom, that just WORKS GREAT.
!
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All the roms are great :laugh:. Just pick what suits your needs. And good luck with the flashing!
And if you want bugless, stay away from the Jelly Bean roms. Fast as hell and buttersmooth but not completely bugfree. I'm waiting for the official HTC Jelly Bean-update, i hope the AOSP-rom-developers can bring us some magic than.

Huubs said:
All the roms are great :laugh:. Just pick what suits your needs. And good luck with the flashing!
And if you want bugless, stay away from the Jelly Bean roms. Fast as hell and buttersmooth but not completely bugfree. I'm waiting for the official HTC Jelly Bean-update, i hope the AOSP-rom-developers can bring us some magic than.
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Don't suppose you know what happens when / if they release the official JB Rom,
Can you go back to stock roms, cuz I think when JB is released, I would want to go back to stock.

I've heard rumors in september. I repeat rumors!!!! Could also be december, you never know with HTC
And it's always possible to go back to stock. Only important thing is that you have a nandroid backup of your stock rom without root.
- unlock bootloader
- flash cwm
- do a nandroid backup!!!! and place a copy on your PC
to go back to stock after flashing custom rom:
- extract boot.img from your stock rom nandroid backup on your PC and flash it via fastboot.
- wipe data/cache, factory reset in cwm
- restore stock rom nandroid backup in cwm
- flash corresponding recovery from your stock rom via fastboot
After that you can OTA-update your One X and you're ready to enjoy some wonderful jelly beans
Happy flashing!

Huubs said:
I've heard rumors in september. I repeat rumors!!!! Could also be december, you never know with HTC
And it's always possible to go back to stock. Only important thing is that you have a nandroid backup of your stock rom without root.
- unlock bootloader
- flash cwm
- do a nandroid backup!!!! and place a copy on your PC
to go back to stock after flashing custom rom:
- extract boot.img from your stock rom nandroid backup on your PC and flash it via fastboot.
- wipe data/cache, factory reset in cwm
- restore stock rom nandroid backup in cwm
- flash corresponding recovery from your stock rom via fastboot
After that you can OTA-update your One X and you're ready to enjoy some wonderful jelly beans
Happy flashing!
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Hi mate, might have to save what you just said as a notepad when I get home
Don't know why im finding it such a struggle to take the leap of faith and root it, do I worry too much?

Wilks3y said:
Hi mate, might have to save what you just said as a notepad when I get home
Don't know why im finding it such a struggle to take the leap of faith and root it, do I worry too much?
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I know exactly what you mean. It took me a year before i rooted my desire. You root when you are ready for it.
Here's i.m.o. the best guide for rooting your One X: http://onexroot.com/one-x-root/how-to-root-one-x/
Step 18: go to your location where you put the onexroot-folder
Step 39: Download cwm 5.8.4.0 from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1594819 and place it in the onexroot-folder and flash it with fastboot flash recovery recovery-clockwork-touch-5.8.4.0-endeavoru.img
After flashing cwm, make a nandroid backup from your stock rom. Then you continue with step 40.
If you're ready with the guide and it's not ok, you missed something. This almost can't go wrong.
Goodluck :good:

Go for it

exocetdj said:
Go for it
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See, this morning I was all up for it.
I was like "Yeah, what can go wrong, the ROM's look brilliant, you've rooted and flashed a phone before and it was better after flash".
Now I'm like "No DONT DO IT, if something goes wrong then you'll have to pay for repairs, when you've already spent 500£ on the phone".
BAH why does Vipers ROM exist, I would be able to stay away from rooting without that ROM, I just love the red/blue themes where its all black etc.