Hi guys, first post on here. This sight is the best resource for info! I have a G2 running the virtuous fusion ROM... Yesterday I loaded the 1.8KHZ overclock kernel and now the wifi doesn't work and I can't watch movies off the net or youtube. Any ideas would be super helpful since I really am just a noob at all this! Thanks in advance!
Sorry, I forgot.... The weather live wallpaper stopped as well. That was my favorite part of the fusion ROM.
Hi, welcome to the forums.
Fusion is dead I would suggest you switch to unity http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1115333 is much much more stable and is full of lots of awesomeness. You will need to switch to the DZ hboot to use it though there is an easy to follow guide here http://www.virtuousrom.com/2011/06/t-mobile-g2-users-migrating-to-desirez.html
What kernel did you flash? On sense roms you must make sure you a sense kernel.
If you need help getting unity running head over to the virtuousrom irc channel http://www.virtuousrom.com/p/chat.html
Do Androids dream of electric sheep?
I really dont know whick kernel it was. As I said, I am a complete noob to all this. It is the one that gives the choice of 1.9 or 1.8 GHZ. I wanted to try the Unity, given I saw those cool updates ( the blue and red), but it says u have to use 2 sd cards and that scares the crap outta me. Again, newbie. lol
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I really dont know whick kernel it was. As I said, I am a complete noob to all this. It is the one that gives the choice of 1.9 or 1.8 GHZ. I wanted to try the Unity, given I saw those cool updates ( the blue and red), but it says u have to use 2 sd cards and that scares the crap outta me. Again, newbie. lol
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Do you have adb installed?
Do Androids dream of electric sheep?
I am so sorry, man... I dont even know what that is. I installed everything and rooted it using a computer, USB cable, and clockmod recovery going by the instructions on this message board. I have seen that before but not really sure what it is. BTW, I really appreciate your help, i'm learning as I go. Just dont wanna brick my baby.. lol.
Or maybe the better question would be, what would be the best way to install unity on here now? Do I need to uninstall fusion first etc. And will it mess up my overclock?
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Just found it on my SD card... The overclock kernel is amazinglarry.
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cjward23 said:
What kernel did you flash? On sense roms you must make sure you a sense kernel.
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I think this is your main problem. I am guessing you used Flippy's kernel (linked below), which is an AOSP kernel. You need a Sense one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=839687
It also sounds like you need to do more reading. You're messing with things without fully understanding what you are doing, which is trouble. Also, you need to keep track of what you have done. Otherwise, when you have problems, its hard to help you when you don't know how you rooted, what kernel you flashed, etc.
coachmoore said:
Just found it on my SD card... The overclock kernel is amazinglarry.
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Our posts crossed. I guessed wrong on what kernel you were one. But amazinglarry is based on pershoot's, which is also AOSP. This is the main reason your phone is messed up.
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Or maybe the better question would be, what would be the best way to install unity on here now? Do I need to uninstall fusion first etc. And will it mess up my overclock?
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The kernel is already messed up, since you are on the wrong kernel. When you flash Unity, it will overwrite the kernel as well. Unity is OC'ed to 1.2 GHz out of the box. But I believe the built-in kernel supports up to 1.7 GHz.
You can flash Unity straight from ROM Manager. But I think the version on their is usually behind what is posted on the Unity thread or the website. Just download the zip, put on your SD card, and flash from Clockwork. I'm not sure if you need to wipe data (if Fusion is similar enough to keep it). But its safest to wipe it. Always wipe dalvik and cache when flashing a new ROM.
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I am so sorry, man... I dont even know what that is. I installed everything and rooted it using a computer, USB cable, and clockmod recovery going by the instructions on this message board. I have seen that before but not really sure what it is. BTW, I really appreciate your help, i'm learning as I go. Just dont wanna brick my baby.. lol.
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Adb = android debug bridge. It is basically a link between your computer and your phone it is an invaluable tool, check out this guide to get it set up http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865685
Do Androids dream of electric sheep?
thank you, thank you, thank you, for all your help, man. I know I should have done all that but being a newbie dummy I wasn't thinking, just wanted to do it. If I do Unity, will setcpu do the overclock or will I need to get somrthing else and do you really need 2 sd cards to do it? I saw the post on how to install it and it called for 2, needing the 2nd for HBOOT or something. Anywhere you may guide me to learn more on how to CORRECTLY do this one? LOL! Also, when and if I do it, do I need to remove fusion before or after I do it or will it just over write it?
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thank you, thank you, thank you, for all your help, man. I know I should have done all that but being a newbie dummy I wasn't thinking, just wanted to do it. If I do Unity, will setcpu do the overclock or will I need to get somrthing else and do you really need 2 sd cards to do it? I saw the post on how to install it and it called for 2, needing the 2nd for HBOOT or something. Anywhere you may guide me to learn more on how to CORRECTLY do this one? LOL! Also, when and if I do it, do I need to remove fusion before or after I do it or will it just over write it?
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Be sure to click the "Thanks" button on posts you found helpful.
Just rushing forward and "doing it" is not the right way to go about these things. Read up BEFORE you start. I did a couple hours of reading at least before even starting the root process on my phone. If you don't understand what you are doing, you are going to brick your phone.
If you look at the Unity information on the Virtuous website, you will see that it comes with a built-in overclocking application. SetCPU is NOT recommended, since its actually responds much slower to screen state changes.
http://www.virtuousrom.com/p/unity_23.html
I have a Desire Z, so I didn't need to flash the Desire Z HBoot. But I would think you can do it all with one SD card.
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I just saw a post on Lifehacker, using unrevoked3 to root my desire (id give a link but im new and apparently not allowed), and this seamed like a nice simple process, so i thought id give it a go. but before i do, i just have a few question that id really love a detailed answer or two to, if you would be so kind.
1. Am i going to brick my phone and cry because i bought it unlocked and cant get it replaced because im a poor student?
2. What the hell is this Radio business?
3. Can i put it back to normal so i can get back to OTA updates from HTC when they finally come to there Senses with FroYo (get it )
4. Am I going to lose all my stuff because i cant back it up before i root.
Thats basically it, if you can answer that, id be incredibility incredibility grateful.
Peelypeel said:
I just saw a post on Lifehacker, using unrevoked3 to root my desire (id give a link but im new and apparently not allowed), and this seamed like a nice simple process, so i thought id give it a go. but before i do, i just have a few question that id really love a detailed answer or two to, if you would be so kind.
1. Am i going to brick my phone and cry because i bought it unlocked and cant get it replaced because im a poor student?
2. What the hell is this Radio business?
3. Can i put it back to normal so i can get back to OTA updates from HTC when they finally come to there Senses with FroYo (get it )
4. Am I going to lose all my stuff because i cant back it up before i root.
Thats basically it, if you can answer that, id be incredibility incredibility grateful.
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1. if u follow the steps exactly as explained, and never touch the phone when it is installing flashing formatting etc etc then u get 99.9% u wont brick it
dont worry im also a student and i bet theres more of us here
2. hmm not sure how to explain what a radio is
3. yes u can, but dont see a reason why, cuz devs update roms quicker and add more functions to them
4. if you just root then no you wont loose your stuff, if you want to install a custom rom then yes you will loose it but you can always back it up using free rommanager back up
This is the main reason why I haven't rooted my Desire yet, despite 1 or 2 friends urging me to. They have Heros. I haven't got the money to replace it and seen as it's on contract I'd be pretty screwed for the next 13 months or something.
Don't worry
Understandable.
I was thinking the same.
It was when I run out of space to install apps and gmail stop working bcoz of low memory space warning.
I decided to take the plunge.
Used unrevoked to root my desire and installing my second rom today lol.
Oh and the radio is the file that contains radio setup for froyo roms.
the one you need for froyo rom is version 5.xx. eg. 32.42.00.32U_5.09.00.08.
so if you are going to install froyo based roms then you need the radio file update or all hell breaks loose.
you can update the radio then install the rom or the other way around up to you.
have fun and ask if you need help.
Was in a similar situation and finally took the plunge today.
Was 10x easier than I thought it would be. Follow the guides and you can't go wrong.
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Radio is the part that handles WiFi, gps, 3G and all that stuff. E.g. you have low WiFi signal, you can update the radio to fix it.
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Ok guys thanks for all the replies, I'm.defiantly doing it now, my phone alarm has failed to go off too many times now (hey any excuse to convince myself to do it lol) and I want to see if a new ROM will fix it.
Shall I go for OpenDesire or CyanogenMod? I want froyo, and I want it stable (preferably I would still love sense if that's possible).
Also on a side note, I don't want to appear idiotic, I know what a radio is, I just wasn't sure what everyone meant by "update" it, and why you have to do of separately to flashing the ROM.
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The ROM's here don't include the radio hence why you need to update the radio seprately, most, if not all, the froyo ROM's will need the latest radio.
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Ok guys thanks for all the replies, I'm.defiantly doing it now, my phone alarm has failed to go off too many times now (hey any excuse to convince myself to do it lol) and I want to see if a new ROM will fix it.
Shall I go for OpenDesire or CyanogenMod? I want froyo, and I want it stable (preferably I would still love sense if that's possible).
Also on a side note, I don't want to appear idiotic, I know what a radio is, I just wasn't sure what everyone meant by "update" it, and why you have to do of separately to flashing the ROM.
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Bugs are to be expected but many fixes are to be expected too
opendesire from what i've heard but they lack sense i think, i wanted sense so i chose neophytes rom (it does slow down when i DL stuff from the market sometimes though, i should report it to him)
You flash a radio like a rom, just use unrevoked to do it
BTW use unrevoked with the rooting, easiest thing ever
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Bugs are to be expected but many fixes are to be expected too
opendesire from what i've heard but they lack sense i think, i wanted sense so i chose neophytes rom (it does slow down when i DL stuff from the market sometimes though, i should report it to him)
You flash a radio like a rom, just use unrevoked to do it
BTW use unrevoked with the rooting, easiest thing ever
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Is this Neophyte?
showthread.php?t=732246 (i cant post links yet, im sure you can work that out though)
and how do i flash the radio with unrevoked3, where do i even get the radio... file?
Sorry about the questions, normally id just go barrelling into to something like this and work it out as i went, but this is serious stuff this time. I want to be sure.
Thanks again
**** i pressed "SIMLOCK" in the hboot thing, wtf have i done. it said it did something.
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**** i pressed "SIMLOCK" in the hboot thing, wtf have i done. it said it did something.
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i think it means you just locked your phone to the simcard that was in your phone at the time. Rooting it should unlock it again though
BTW here is an unrevoked guide, neophytes ROM and the radio (use the latest, not the leaked one), follow all the instructions to the letter and you should be fine (follow unrevoked's rom flashing instructions for the radio though, thats how i did it and gawd was it easy)
Thank you very very much. With those guides in hand I'm about to do it. See you on the other side ha ha
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Thank you very very much. With those guides in hand I'm about to do it. See you on the other side ha ha
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I'd tried the other way first and my phone wouldn't root (i was really really frightened when a HTC logo came up and stayed on for a whole 24hrs) so i tried unrevoked and it worked like a charm
Lets hope everything goes a bit smoother for you than me
That really was one of the easiest things i've ever done. Thank you so much for all your help, and the ROM suggestion, loving the new sense.
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That really was one of the easiest things i've ever done. Thank you so much for all your help, and the ROM suggestion, loving the new sense.
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no trouble then, nice to hear
Have fun, i love it
Sorry to ask a stupid question, can i root my desire, keep my current OS as it is and still get the OTA update to 2.2 as it would if my phone wasn't rooted?
I would try the modaco custom rom, search for it. Its based on the latest leaked rom from HTC so its stable, its froyo, it has sense as well as the new 2.2 features like tethering, new widgets, 720p video etc etc
i rooted my phone at the weekend and im loving it!
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I would try the modaco custom rom, search for it. Its based on the latest leaked rom from HTC so its stable, its froyo, it has sense as well as the new 2.2 features like tethering, new widgets, 720p video etc etc
i rooted my phone at the weekend and im loving it!
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Agree, also have the modaco ROM. Best thing is that you bake your own rom and only put items that you really need.
Peelypeel said:
I just saw a post on Lifehacker, using unrevoked3 to root my desire (id give a link but im new and apparently not allowed), and this seamed like a nice simple process, so i thought id give it a go. but before i do, i just have a few question that id really love a detailed answer or two to, if you would be so kind.
1. Am i going to brick my phone and cry because i bought it unlocked and cant get it replaced because im a poor student?
2. What the hell is this Radio business?
3. Can i put it back to normal so i can get back to OTA updates from HTC when they finally come to there Senses with FroYo (get it )
4. Am I going to lose all my stuff because i cant back it up before i root.
Thats basically it, if you can answer that, id be incredibility incredibility grateful.
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Well mate.. I was pretty much in the same boat as you.. Student, wanting to root my phone, didn't know what all the stuff was.. And I'll try and rectify it for you as much as possible, following your points .
1. If you follow the guides which have been put up by unrevoked, or the guide on this forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189 or our lovely friends over at android.modaco http://android.modaco.com/content/h...e-now-with-hboot-0-80-and-os-to-1-21-support/ then you shouldn't have a problem at all. I was feeling the same way, was confused and really didn't want to risk the rooting process.
2. The Radio.. It's not like a Radio which we use to tune in to FM and AM, think of it as something to help other processes work in the phone. Be it Wifi, 3G, HSDPA, GSM.. All these get updated with the new ROM's (Froyo) and they need the Radio to make them run smoother, and better. Think of a Radio as a driver when you're updating something on a computer. But BE CAREFUL when flashing the Radio, DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT touch the phone until it has completely finished booting (2 or 3 times, you'll know when it's finished).
3. You can put it back to normal any time, just by flashing an older ROM on to it, just have a look at some of the official RUU's on this forum.
4. The sort of stuff which you're worried about are photos, text messages and apps? Best way for this is to invest in MyBackupPro, where you can back up all of your texts online etc. For apps and all, why not download ASTRO from the Market? It can back up all your apps and install them again no problems.
I hope this helps
Dan
Hello,
I am a rookie in android world, i just rooted my HTC EVO with 2.2. I was wondering if some can tell me the benefits of rooting the device and tips and tricks
thanks
I wonder why would you root your phone and have not one clue on what it does or what you can do with it. And if you rooted your phone obviously you know how to look through a forum.. also you should do nand unlock also.
Anyways. Things like over, underclock, use 3rd party apps, use apps that have to have root in order to use. That's some. There is a search button that helps out alot unless you are using the app for xda then use Google. Also if you read through topics if mostly on topics when rooted. Also custom roms and kernels.
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Please provide some helpful guidelines instead of criticism
Yeah that was putting it lightly. People are going to flame you for posting something you can learn by just reading a few posts in each thread.. or going to back out and nit even give you 10 seconds of their life because you fail to read or search on a topic that makes this forum. If it wasn't for rooting and all the other stuff that comes with it. And I gave you some info. I don't feel like searching everything for you and posting the link.
Edit: helpful guidelines... search button and Google are very helpful. Serious and all, spend a hour on here in the forums and you will answer the questions on your post. I was new on here when I got my evo. I rooted because I heard what you can do. Not because I heard about root and had no clue. If you Google there are yahoo topics asking this and fully explains. Wiki fully in detail explains this. So many other websites and forums have the info you want. I'm not trying to sound rude here and people might take it as rude. You will probably here 10 times from people about the search button after hearing it from me.
Edit again. There isn't really any guidelines after root. Depends what you want to do after. Use apps that use root, use a custom rom or kernel, or theme and customize everything... well almost everything..
If I could post links to the info I prob would.. but can't..
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The main thing after rooting and nand unlock is to be able to use custom roms and kernels. There are 2 types. Sense and senseless roms. Senseless roms are called asop. Cm6 is a rom that has no sense in it at all.
You can use setcpu which is a paid app in the market to overclock or underclock. You need a custom kernel and sometimes with stock kernel you can overclock. You don't need a custom kernel to underclock. Also there are many thing implemented in kernels to help your phone run faster or use less battery. Read all kernels. Some kernels can only run on sense or asop roms.
You can change most stuff on your phone. When you turn phone on you have the splash screen which is the first thing on. Then you have bootscreen. Both can be changed. You can change the icons with an app in the market but forgot the name of it.
There are different launchers. Launcher pro and adw launcher.
Each has there own pros and cons.
You can change keyboards... like swype and Droid x keyboard or ones in market.
Most of the icons on the status bar can be changed. There are themes that theme everything on your phone..
So much more.. you can spend hours on here and find new stuff to do. You will probably put a custom rom on and kernel and there almost all of them or enough and find one that suites your needs...
Hope this helps better.. I'm bored at home while girlfriend is at the bar..
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Thanks now for the help. Any special Rom thats the besy?
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Depends on what you are looking for... every rom is different. They all look different.. and some take out gapps (Google apps) and sprint apps.. just try one first to learn how to flash a rom and understand how to do that. Then just read up on roms and find one that suites you..
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ken101 said:
Thanks now for the help. Any special Rom thats the besy?
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It's really up to personal choice. Just make sure that you back up your phone and that you have NAND unlocked.
How do I figure out if I have nand unlocked, what's the good software that I can use to backup my phone
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There is lots of information on the xda website a good place to start is http://tinyurl.com/25tc3xr
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hehe... let's see if I got this right.
You rooted your phone
After rooting your phone, you're asking what you can do with it now
marty responds and thinks it's a little strange why a person would root his phone and then ask what benefit it was, to do so, he also includes some benefits of rooting, then follows it up with some helpful advice on how to use the search to find answers here
You respond by telling him to FU with the criticism, and give him "real answers"
This world never fails to amaze me.
Common Sense 101 (you got that in your nym, but sadly, nowhere else) is you READ about what rooting is, what bad things could happen if you do it, what advantages and disadvantages there are, how dangerous it is to do so, how hard it is, the success/failure rate of it, the different methods of doing it.. You do all this READING.......
BEFORE YOU ROOT YOUR PHONE!!!!
Would you not agree, that would be a more sensible approach?
Granted, it's too late now, but maybe you could use that approach in the future?
This is not criticism, this is a HELPFUL GUIDELINE
I got your back
Wow Deja vu you are me a few months ago. Well I think I will help you out a little bit.
Rooting does two things. First, it gives you su binaries and a supeuser app that let you access your phone's operating system to make small changes and use apps that could harm the phone over a long time and/or save you moneeeeey! Second, it lets you install a custom recovery. Recovery mode is a tool that lets your phone update itself and, in a total system crash, recovery itself. A cutoff recovery can make the phone think it is being updated or recovered, but is actually being totally changed.
NAND unlocking lets you make major changes to the operating system that you couldn't do otherwise by removing all security (from you, not from hackers) and letting you install asop and other stuff.
Once you get a custom recovery, you can flash (falsely update with a read only zip file) a rom. These rooms can have small or large changes depending on personal preference. You can add themes to these rooms the same way, and change kernels, as well as installing root only apps.
Remember, before you flash anything ALWAYS make a nandroid backup in recovery mode, so if your phone is totally wrecked from the inside, you can fix it. There is no other way to fix it if you mess something up.
You're welcome.
Some Information 4u
Why can't you guys just answer his F'in question, a$$holes.
ken101, some thoughts.
Try these links to get more information.
http://smarterware.org/3189/why-and-how-to-root-your-android-phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765496
the procedure I followed to root my stock 2.2 EVO, basically you downgrade to 2.1, install unrevoke, upgrade to 2.2.
Here is a good one that goes through all the steps. NOTE: YOU WILL NOT FOLLOW this for your phone, but it gives you an idea of what you next steps are.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5214290
From the link above, research every step, so you learn the pros/cons. For example, why wipe my phone, do I need to, does the custom rom require it, what does wiping do.
AND remember, BACKUP FIRST, BACKUP FIRST, should I say that again.
When you rooted your phone, you installed a Recovery Mod, you should via SuperUser be able to boot into it. There is a feature called NANDROID, use it to backup your system and apps before you do anything else. You will then be able to use the same procedure to restore if you do something that breaks your phone (breaks as in the system), going forward.
Good Look Chief, sounds like you are on your way. One last, google search "best roms for Evo", see what you come up with, I think there are 6 or 7 good custom roms out there now for the EVO, make sure they are ready for 2.2, but anyway, investigate the pro/cons of each rom before going forward.
Cya..
Thanks a lot you guys, you guys helped a lot!
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Best roms
Honestly, cyanogen is too unstable and you lose too much. It is very widely respected, but I do prefer ava v7 froyo. It has the battery life of fresh, and some great visual and app enhancements. Choose wisely. And, I cannot say it enough, NANDROID BACKUP! ! !
IDK how someone who actually had the patience to ROOT stock 2.2 (which looks very much like a pain in the ass to me!) is so clueless after having just completed that task? Wouldn't you have a few ideas in mind before you rooted your phone?
Thanks for the nice remarks. The reason I didn't look ahead because I wanted to see if I can root it or not. Once I was able to next step was to do creative stuff with it.
I hope you r satisfied
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I just ate a snickers bar, I feel very satisfied right now...
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Why can't you guys just answer his F'in question, a$$holes.
ken101, some thoughts.
Try these links to get more information.
http://smarterware.org/3189/why-and-how-to-root-your-android-phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765496
the procedure I followed to root my stock 2.2 EVO, basically you downgrade to 2.1, install unrevoke, upgrade to 2.2.
Here is a good one that goes through all the steps. NOTE: YOU WILL NOT FOLLOW this for your phone, but it gives you an idea of what you next steps are.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5214290
From the link above, research every step, so you learn the pros/cons. For example, why wipe my phone, do I need to, does the custom rom require it, what does wiping do.
AND remember, BACKUP FIRST, BACKUP FIRST, should I say that again.
When you rooted your phone, you installed a Recovery Mod, you should via SuperUser be able to boot into it. There is a feature called NANDROID, use it to backup your system and apps before you do anything else. You will then be able to use the same procedure to restore if you do something that breaks your phone (breaks as in the system), going forward.
Good Look Chief, sounds like you are on your way. One last, google search "best roms for Evo", see what you come up with, I think there are 6 or 7 good custom roms out there now for the EVO, make sure they are ready for 2.2, but anyway, investigate the pro/cons of each rom before going forward.
Cya..
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quick question ken 101, your evo came android 2.2 stock? before you rooted it
Hi, I have the desire, and well I'm board with it, I want to mess around with different roms like miui, gingerbread extra. But I don't understand, please could someone help me with some of my questions? Thank :
1) What are the chances of breaking it through rooting, and what could happen, and would should you do it it does happen?
2) what does bricked mean, and is there away of unbricking?
1) what do you do if a bad rom breaks?
1.5) what are the chances of things going wrong?
2) Can you have more than one rom installed at a time, and switch between them, a bit like you can with launchers, and uses the same apps and data on those roms?
2.5) Is unrevoked the best way to root?
3) I you can have more than one rom, can you have a gingerbread rom, side loaded with a froyo from?
4) How do you switch between the roms?
5)Does rooting affect battery life?
6) Using unrevoked, is there anyway to unroot?
7) where do you find roms, and does the rom manager in the market allow you to install them without flashing?
8)Is there a good htc sense hd or gingerbread rom that works well?
9) With different roms increase the speed of the device, like the n1 is faster than the desire, yet they have the same hardware?
I know that a lot of questions but i am really nervousness about this and I can't seem to find todate answerers to these questions. If someone could help me with these questions I would be very great full, as I want to get more our of my device. Thanks ( I know there are a lot of rooting threads, but I really need to find out as much as i can before I undergo this, I love my desire too much to allow it to break when there was something that i could have done)
There is a remote chance (0.00000001%) of anything going wrong as long as you follow the steps to the rooting process and S-Off. If you become bricked then there is a topic on how to unbrick.
Easiest and best way to root is to using unrevoked 3.32. Make sure you download the HBoot drivers from their website. After rooting, it is also good to make your device S-Off'd. Your able to flash HBoot templates to change partition sizes and also change the splash and remove system apps and so on.
You can only have 1 rom installed at a time. You have to flash roms as well, that's how you install them and other zip files through the recovery. If a rom breaks, you can just flash it again. Installing a rom takes 5 mins, if that really.
You find roms in the Android Dev section. You can use Rom Manager but you have to pay or something.
You can have a fast rom or a "slower" rom. It depends on how it's been built and stuff but also the kernel can help to speed things up. (Speed isn't always the answer). There is no best or crappiest rom either. It's best to test many out for yourself.
Battery life again depends on the rom and the kernel.
Things To Download
To root a device
To S-Off your device
Roms and alsort of other nice things
Hope this helps you out.
Thanks very much , but do you need to install "S-Off" as I don't quite understand what it does, and which one to download and how to install it. Thanks
You don't need to install S-Off after a root. S-Off just allows you to do more things like uninstall system apps, change the splash screen, change the HBoot (not quite sure what else). If your not going to be doing them sort of things then stay away from it.
When you root, the unrevoked utility roots it and changes the recovery to ClockworkMod 2.5.1.8. That recovery allows you to boot into it and install roms through it. It has a menu and you use your optical tracker to navigate through them. That is how you install different roms.
With the roms, you need to see which one you like. I've been through almost all of them and I have one I stick to now. I can't say which is the best, that's for you to decide. The Gingerbread roms are Android 2.3 and I THINK, emphasis on the THINK, that the rest of the roms are Android 2.2.
I think at first your like, oh what if I mess things up and stuff but you won't if you follow instructions. When I first did it, I completely messed up and couldn't even boot into a rom at all and was wondering how to sort it out. I got there in the end but still. I also forgot to mention, if you want the stock rom back, you can install one of the RUU's. It will wipe everything and you will have to root again, but you will have stock.
Thanks very much , when change roms will you lose all of your apps, and data?
Yes. When your changing roms, you have to erase all data. It is a must and everything will go, apps, user data including texts and contacts, EVERYTHING!!!.
Thanks so much for all your help, i'm going to do it now, and use cyanogen mod 7 or 6.x. Thanks again
No worries. If you get stuck, just message me or something.
Completely IGNORE S-OFF if you're a n00b, it shouldn't be recommended to anyone who:
1. Doesn't know what it is
2. Doesn't actually need it
Concentrate on rooting and running a custom ROM first
Not actually true. When I S-Off'd my Desire, I didn't have a bloody clue, other than it disables all security, what it was. You eventually learn things like I did and read a little more. S-Off is a great tool to have on your phone because it gives you all the more freedom to do what ever you want with your device. I will say for all the "n00bs" out there that if you are S-Off'ing then please read it all carefully, unlike me because I could have messed it all up.
You were lucky - better to learn first, do second
I saw recently a wiped imei which made me cautious
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Thanks for all you help, I have rooted and now have a custom rom (cm 6.1). Thanks
EddyOS said:
Completely IGNORE S-OFF if you're a n00b
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I would add that if you're a n00b, don't even try to get your device rooted!
Lothaen said:
I saw recently a wiped imei which made me cautious
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I would ask if that's even possbile. Apparently it is.
Delete the efs storage without a backup... doh
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I had a stock Desire and wouldn't move from it. Then the niggles in the current build just annoyed me enough to actually go down the root route (see what I did there? )
So I rooted and after a few mishaps along the way (make backups of everything, phone and SD card, especially if you partition it!) I am very happy with my Ginger Villain ROM. A few things still niggle (Me avatar in texts blank, phone reboots randomly to name a few), but its not as bad as it used to be. I can live without Sense as well surprisingly enough.
I also did the same for a friend, and stuck them on LeeDroid 2.3d and as they are technically challenged, it works for them sweet as.
stringent said:
I had a stock Desire and wouldn't move from it. Then the niggles in the current build just annoyed me enough to actually go down the root route (see what I did there? )
So I rooted and after a few mishaps along the way (make backups of everything, phone and SD card, especially if you partition it!) I am very happy with my Ginger Villain ROM. A few things still niggle (Me avatar in texts blank, phone reboots randomly to name a few), but its not as bad as it used to be. I can live without Sense as well surprisingly enough.
I also did the same for a friend, and stuck them on LeeDroid 2.3d and as they are technically challenged, it works for them sweet as.
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Haha that made me laugh. As for your contact icon of yourself, you need to add yourself. Your own number and name and then you can add a picture. Yes it is annoying a little because Android natively doesn't have like a "contact card" for yourself.
Rooting and S-Off is the best thing I did by far
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Haha that made me laugh. As for your contact icon of yourself, you need to add yourself. Your own number and name and then you can add a picture. Yes it is annoying a little because Android natively doesn't have like a "contact card" for yourself.
Rooting and S-Off is the best thing I did by far
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bump creates a contact card for yourself...
right at the top of the phonebook called 'My Contact Card'
Lothaen said:
bump creates a contact card for yourself...
right at the top of the phonebook called 'My Contact Card'
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Odd, I don't have that, I had it in the Sense UI, not on the stock Ginger Villain ROM, unless I am missing something ...
I've searched, and I've searched, and I've searched...
And I'm still confused.
There's so much old info out there, so many different versions of the same phone, and so many new words I'm not used to, I just can't find the right set of instructions that I need for my phone. All I want to do, is a simple root, and get those stupid freeloading apps that "S" pre-installs off of my phone; I want maps and telenav to stop starting automatically on bootup; I want my battery to fully charge, and I want my mobile hot-spot! I don't want special roms (I'm only 95% certain I know what they are), or anything else special for that matter. Just access to fix my phone so it's not completely useless and constantly rebooting the home screen due to lack of ram.
Here's my stats:
Android version:
2.3.3
Baseband version:
2.15.00.0808
Build number & Software number:
4.54.651.1
If you need any more info, I'll happily post it.
I am NOT asking for someone to hold my hand through the process, just to point me in the direction of the correct guide. I must have read at least 15 different guides now, and haven't a clue which one is the one I need to use.
Palm Pre was so much easier...lol
Extreme thanks in advance.
Here you go dude!! This site should have all the answers to your questions, it helps me a lot when I'm stuck and can't figure things out!!
www.noob-problems.net/issues/android
Thanks "dude" (I'm a chick by the way lol), but that link is not loading.
I'm really just looking for a link to the correct root guide.
Look around for revolutionary root process.
revolutionary.io
There are a couple detailed guides that I know of in the EVO Q&A and General forums...
mazdarider23 said:
Here you go dude!! This site should have all the answers to your questions, it helps me a lot when I'm stuck and can't figure things out!!
www.noob-problems.net/issues/android
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lol!
Funny funny
pittiehensley said:
Thanks "dude" (I'm a chick by the way lol), but that link is not loading.
I'm really just looking for a link to the correct root guide.
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How was I suppose to know you're a chick?
Is not like I can see your boobs or something.....Freaking chill out DUDE! Also, is a lot faster to google then it is to post on here, just saying DUDE!!
I would suggest that u search for revolutionary.io and you will get the info u need. I've used it on 2 of my 2.3.3 evos
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Mohawka said:
I would suggest that u search for revolutionary.io and you will get the info u need. I've used it on 2 of my 2.3.3 evos
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OR if that's too hard.....
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Root+ HTC+EVO+xda#
I used revolutionary and it was painless. Follow the instructions on the site and the assosiated information and you will not have an issue.
Once rooted you can install another recovery (amon ra) or just use clockwork which revolutionary offers to install. Perform a backup in recovery and reboot your phone.
Get titanium backup and you can start removing the apps you want.
That's what I did, hopefully it helps a bit.
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Thanks, revulutionary is exactly what I needed. Seems like every guide I searched and read, went other directions.
maz - I was giggling about the dude remark, not mad about it (hence the "lol"). Seems maybe you need to save that chill pill for yourself.
mazdarider23 said:
OR if that's too hard.....
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Root+ HTC+EVO+xda#
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Lols
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Revolutionary is good. I recommend you read more about custom ROMs after that, there's a good chance you will find something that suits you better than your stock ROM. MIUI and CM7 are both great ROMs to play around with. Make a backup before you do anything with ROMs.
I've helped alot of my friends that are new to android/smartphones/rooting to understand it all and get up and running, if you need help just let me know.
Ok. dudes... Basically i bought the following phone...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1909013
Its a HTC Incredible 2 with ICS 4.0.4 on it. The rom is Kangdemnation v0.5.
Basically i want to get all this stuff off and run stock... I basically got it for the htc clock widget AND NOW i cant even find the widget. LOL...
So i just need to know how in the world to get this thing back to stock gingerbread...Ive tried searching threads but cant seem to find one that takes be from where i am... backward to stock...
Thanks and sorry again for yet... another noob thread...
Maschil said:
Ok. dudes... Basically i bought the following phone...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1909013
Its a HTC Incredible 2 with ICS 4.0.4 on it. The rom is Kangdemnation v0.5.
Basically i want to get all this stuff off and run stock... I basically got it for the htc clock widget AND NOW i cant even find the widget. LOL...
So i just need to know how in the world to get this thing back to stock gingerbread...Ive tried searching threads but cant seem to find one that takes be from where i am... backward to stock...
Thanks and sorry again for yet... another noob thread...
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Do you want to be stock rooted or unrooted? There are roms for each. You'll want to look around the development section. Look for return to stock img or Condemned Soul's CCM7 or Andybone's Stock, then read up in the threads before deciding which to use.
gtdtm said:
Do you want to be stock rooted or unrooted? There are roms for each. You'll want to look around the development section. Look for return to stock img or Condemned Soul's CCM7 or Andybone's Stock, then read up in the threads before deciding which to use.
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unrooted... thanks a bunch... will begin my search
Maschil said:
Ok. dudes... Basically i bought the following phone...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1909013
Its a HTC Incredible 2 with ICS 4.0.4 on it. The rom is Kangdemnation v0.5.
Basically i want to get all this stuff off and run stock... I basically got it for the htc clock widget AND NOW i cant even find the widget. LOL...
So i just need to know how in the world to get this thing back to stock gingerbread...Ive tried searching threads but cant seem to find one that takes be from where i am... backward to stock...
Thanks and sorry again for yet... another noob thread...
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If you want to get the clock widget and still run AOSP, there are alternatives at the play store too. Just sayin.
Fancy widgets or Beautiful Wifgets are 2 examples.
sent from my Redneck phone.
Maschil said:
Ok. dudes... Basically i bought the following phone...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1909013
Its a HTC Incredible 2 with ICS 4.0.4 on it. The rom is Kangdemnation v0.5.
Basically i want to get all this stuff off and run stock... I basically got it for the htc clock widget AND NOW i cant even find the widget. LOL...
So i just need to know how in the world to get this thing back to stock gingerbread...Ive tried searching threads but cant seem to find one that takes be from where i am... backward to stock...
Thanks and sorry again for yet... another noob thread...
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Let me guide you, oh naive one, to one of our Best ICS ROMs. Since all you want is the clock widget, I'll say why not go for the UKB Rom II 1.3.1? A bit overkill, but it has the best version of the Clock widget. The Sense 4.0 one... *drool* And DON'T UNROOT! noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....... oooooo....
litetaker said:
Let me guide you, oh naive one, to one of our Best ICS ROMs. Since all you want is the clock widget, I'll say why not go for the UKB Rom II 1.3.1? A bit overkill, but it has the best version of the Clock widget. The Sense 4.0 one... *drool* And DON'T UNROOT! noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....... oooooo....
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Agreed. UKB II has been my go to for a while now. I'll flash something, play around, and end up back on UKB. It's got all the stock HTC goodness with none of the stock restrictions/bloat.
LINK HERE
Do an OEM lock. Search around the DINC 2 forums. It unroots and sets you back to stock
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litetaker said:
Let me guide you, oh naive one, to one of our Best ICS ROMs. Since all you want is the clock widget, I'll say why not go for the UKB Rom II 1.3.1? A bit overkill, but it has the best version of the Clock widget. The Sense 4.0 one... *drool* And DON'T UNROOT! noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....... oooooo....
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LLOl... like i didnt understand what you wrote.......
after doing some research...which basic ICS'S Would to recommend.... the one i have is just too different... and its just my business phone
aaronc222 said:
Agreed. UKB II has been my go to for a while now. I'll flash something, play around, and end up back on UKB. It's got all the stock HTC goodness with none of the stock restrictions/bloat.
LINK HERE
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thanks man...!!!!!!!!!!!!!! looks like this will do the trick... now i can put way that yogurt and get some ice cream
aaronc222 said:
Agreed. UKB II has been my go to for a while now. I'll flash something, play around, and end up back on UKB. It's got all the stock HTC goodness with none of the stock restrictions/bloat.
LINK HERE
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ok dude is the rom 4.3 mbs???? i think i did this wrong....
Maschil said:
ok dude is the rom 4.3 mbs???? i think i did this wrong....
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Mine was 451 MB. Most roms are at LEAST 120 MB.
Not sure how much you know but in recovery you'll want to wipe data, system, cache, and dalvik cache before flashing.
ClockWorkMod recovery is the most popular and likely what you have on your phone.
4ext is nice. I'm running it myself at the moment.
TeamWinRecoveryProject is another popular choice lately.
Any of the three will get the job done. Once you get the rom up, stable, and gotten your apps setup... you'll want to go back into recovery and do a backup. It will eat some space on your SD card but it's well worth it to have a base to fall back on later and makes it easier to try new roms since you can just restore the backup and have your 'base' back at any time.
aaronc222 said:
Mine was 451 MB. Most roms are at LEAST 120 MB.
Not sure how much you know but in recovery you'll want to wipe data, system, cache, and dalvik cache before flashing.
ClockWorkMod recovery is the most popular and likely what you have on your phone.
4ext is nice. I'm running it myself at the moment.
TeamWinRecoveryProject is another popular choice lately.
Any of the three will get the job done. Once you get the rom up, stable, and gotten your apps setup... you'll want to go back into recovery and do a backup. It will eat some space on your SD card but it's well worth it to have a base to fall back on later and makes it easier to try new roms since you can just restore the backup and have your 'base' back at any time.
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ok... i had downloaded a patch! lol... i uploaded the rom but im still at the white screen of death..... the phone has clockwordmod on it...
Maschil said:
ok dude is the rom 4.3 mbs???? i think i did this wrong....
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1. If you aren't sure how the whole flashing a rom process works, you really need to spend some time reading around the forums. That's how we all learned.
2. You are given a daily allowance of XDA Thanks. You should use them because several people have been extremely helpful, without flaming your noobishness...even though you have a high post count.
I'm not being rude, but if you really read around the forums and educate yourself a little it will help you out a ton and save a lot of frustration. You need to get to know the particulars of flashing on this particular phone.
And no, 4.3mb isn't a full rom file.
gtdtm said:
1. If you aren't sure how the whole flashing a rom process works, you really need to spend some time reading around the forums. That's how we all learned.
2. You are given a daily allowance of XDA Thanks. You should use them because several people have been extremely helpful, without flaming your noobishness...even though you have a high post count.
I'm not being rude, but if you really read around the forums and educate yourself a little it will help you out a ton and save a lot of frustration. You need to get to know the particulars of flashing on this particular phone.
And no, 4.3mb isn't a full rom file.
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Im already past that step im on a white screen of death now.... lol
Maschil said:
Im already past that step im on a white screen of death now.... lol
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Which means you probably did something wrong...and need to read up to make sure you do the steps correctly. Here's a freebie:
1. Download ROM
2. Check MD5 sum
3. Wipe phone
4. Flash ROM
5. DEPENDING ON THE ROM: flash kernel
6. DEPENDING ON THE ROM: flash gapps
7. Reboot phone
There may be some additional differences as specified by a roms dev. If you don't know what all of those steps mean...I repeat, please read around the forums. The answers are all over the place.
Maschil said:
Im already past that step im on a white screen of death now.... lol
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Do you know if you are S-Offed? That is probably the only reason why u are stuck. If not, you need to do that first OR learn to flash with simply HTC dev unlock. Otherwise, make sure you follow the steps to the T. Always wipe data/dalvik/cache and if possible /system (but not necessary as the ROM will and should wipe that anyway.)
gtdtm said:
Which means you probably did something wrong...and need to read up to make sure you do the steps correctly. Here's a freebie:
1. Download ROM
2. Check MD5 sum
3. Wipe phone
4. Flash ROM
5. DEPENDING ON THE ROM: flash kernel
6. DEPENDING ON THE ROM: flash gapps
7. Reboot phone
There may be some additional differences as specified by a roms dev. If you don't know what all of those steps mean...I repeat, please read around the forums. The answers are all over the place.
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did it all ready... this is why im stuck.
litetaker said:
Do you know if you are S-Offed? That is probably the only reason why u are stuck. If not, you need to do that first OR learn to flash with simply HTC dev unlock. Otherwise, make sure you follow the steps to the T. Always wipe data/dalvik/cache and if possible /system (but not necessary as the ROM will and should wipe that anyway.)
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did some research... looked like i am S-Offed... there is a ---UNLOCKED--- at the top of the Format Screen....
doing some further research.. this is actually quite fun i think i will become a developer...
im working on installing this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1553357
So in short...
I am S-Off and i have the rom on my sd card....ive wiped all data as well...
Maschil said:
did some research... looked like i am S-Offed... there is a ---UNLOCKED--- at the top of the Format Screen....
doing some further research.. this is actually quite fun i think i will become a developer...
im working on installing this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1553357
So in short...
I am S-Off and i have the rom on my sd card....ive wiped all data as well...
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what radio is in your phone???? it's on the bootloader screen. does it say s-off on the bootloader screen?if your s-off and you have either .1111 radio or .0602(last 4 digits)you'll need to upgtade to .0312 radio to stop boot looping(with sense roms)be very carefull flashing a radio read before you proceed, it's in the forums here somewhere, can't remember where or i'd post a link. search it,
Maschil said:
did some research... looked like i am S-Offed... there is a ---UNLOCKED--- at the top of the Format Screen....
doing some further research.. this is actually quite fun i think i will become a developer...
im working on installing this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1553357
So in short...
I am S-Off and i have the rom on my sd card....ive wiped all data as well...
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It should say S-OFF as well. Because it can be S-ON and still unlocked via HTC Dev Unlock.