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[Q] there is noobs here we r not all devs !!! so take it easy on us

oh people come on i really appreciate all the work your doing here but your talking about flashing custom roms and unlooking boot loader !!! and stuff like that but the thing is i don't even know how to install a cutom roms and i'm sure there r many guys like me out there so please be easy on us so here what i want to know and i'm sure if you answered this topic it's gonna be a useful one
1-do we need to backup out things from phone memory and sd card before unlocking our phones using the new htc dev thing ? and if yes so how to make a full back up ?
2- we will do the unlock boot loader thing and there is a good tutorials out there
3- after unlocking the boot loader i think we have to do a complete wipe or some thing like that and then flash a cutom rom right ? so please tell us how to do that wipe thing and install a rom and which rom is the most stable one out there
4- can i go back to the old rom which is htc 2.3.5 if i didn't like that boot thing
5- with custom roms is it posible to install apps from the market ? and what are the deferences in general between the 2.3.5 official and any rom i will install after rooting ?
thank you for reading this post all, i'm asking for is an easy 1 2 3 .... complete guide for noobs

Well, problem is not you guys are new. Neither your lack of knowledge about the topics.
Mostly the problem is that people do not read and open new threads for topics already existing. I wrote 2 tutorials and I think I wrote them a way new users can understand.
Using a searching machine or forums search is no advanced topic. When I was new to it all, I spend like 2-3 days of reading and finding out myself.
So, look at our point of view: we write tutorials that are detailed and answer questions all about in the respective threads. We can't write a whole tutorial again for everyone not willing to read.
And to almost all questions, there already is an answer. And I think if you want to do stuff with your phone you should search and read. then you still can ask questions. But often people come here this way: Hi, I'm new, now tell me exactly what I have to do.

theq86 first of all i appreciate your time
but you can't judge me !!!! i spent 2 days reading and searching all i could find was people talking about new roms and stuff like that and expressions that i don't understand
and i tried to the search tool btw if u type noob you will find tons of suggestions with no match topics
so i'm not taking the easy way or any thing
and rather than complaining from my post you can point me to those threads your talking about for new comers it would have been nice of u

I don't blame you in particular, I just give examples. So sorry if you understood it that way.
Well, here we go:
1-do we need to backup out things from phone memory and sd card before unlocking our phones using the new htc dev thing ? and if yes so how to make a full back up ?
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Yes, I'd recommend that. You can backup all your PIM data (calendar, cntacts, messages) with MyPhoneExplorer. If you have synced everything with google you can restore it afterwards with a full sync. But I'd recommend MyPhoneExplorer, because you have your data on pc then.
During the process of unlocking the phone and all of it's data will be reset!
2- we will do the unlock boot loader thing and there is a good tutorials out there
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Here is my tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432199
Every step is explained. And also read the textx on htcdev to each step for getting detailed information.
3- after unlocking the boot loader i think we have to do a complete wipe or some thing like that and then flash a cutom rom right ? so please tell us how to do that wipe thing and install a rom and which rom is the most stable one out there
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When you flash a custom rom, be sure to wipe the cache partition, the dalvik-cache and the data partition. otherwise bootloops or malfunctions could appear. Wiping all these is very easy once you have a custom recovery tool.
4- can i go back to the old rom which is htc 2.3.5 if i didn't like that boot thing
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You can go back to stock rom. But this will not recover your warranty. You can even lock the bootloader again if you really wish. How to do so is stated in my bootloader unlock tutorial, too.
5- with custom roms is it posible to install apps from the market ? and what are the deferences in general between the 2.3.5 official and any rom i will install after rooting ?
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Yes, in case you use the cyanogenmod rom you will have to insall the google apps manually, but market is available on every rom.
The differences between stock rom are manifold:
themes and designs can differ
custom roms often include fixes and tweaks to improve device speed, stability and battery life.
Most roms are debloated. So never used apps are removed.

theq86 said:
I don't blame you in particular, I just give examples. So sorry if you understood it that way.
Well, here we go:
Yes, I'd recommend that. You can backup all your PIM data (calendar, cntacts, messages) with MyPhoneExplorer. If you have synced everything with google you can restore it afterwards with a full sync. But I'd recommend MyPhoneExplorer, because you have your data on pc then.
During the process of unlocking the phone and all of it's data will be reset!
Here is my tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432199
Every step is explained. And also read the textx on htcdev to each step for getting detailed information.
When you flash a custom rom, be sure to wipe the cache partition, the dalvik-cache and the data partition. otherwise bootloops or malfunctions could appear. Wiping all these is very easy once you have a custom recovery tool.
You can go back to stock rom. But this will not recover your warranty. You can even lock the bootloader again if you really wish. How to do so is stated in my bootloader unlock tutorial, too.
Yes, in case you use the cyanogenmod rom you will have to insall the google apps manually, but market is available on every rom.
The differences between stock rom are manifold:
themes and designs can differ
custom roms often include fixes and tweaks to improve device speed, stability and battery life.
Most roms are debloated. So never used apps are removed.
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thank you very much for your time i really appriciate it , but i still have some more questions
1- after unlocking my bootloader do i have to install a custom rom or can i keep using my current 2.3.5 i understand that it will be like starting from scratch
2- what is the clock recovery mod and where to find it and how to use it " in this question i'm using the easy way beacuse i know i'll find info about this thing if i searched the fourm but who want's to take the hard way thank's to you "
3- i've read some thing about adding an sd card partition to the phone memory or some thing like that please give me a full description about this thing and can i add this partition to my current stock rom after unlocking the bootloader with out installing a custom rom if it's possible ?

oh sorry i forgot 1 more question
people are saying that cyeanogen rom is the best but i keep reading that it's not an official realese and the radio and wirless and camera etc ... is not worknig but there is the 7.2 version i saw recntly on the dev section which is said to work perfectly so is it stable ? it it fast ? do you recomend me to use it ? i'm asking this question beacuse i noticed you r a cyanogen mod fan
and to install any rom of course i'll have to do these steps
1- flash the clock recovery mod which you will point me to how to use it
2- flash the custom rom and that's every thing
and to flash these things i but them on the root folder on my sd and disable the fasy boot option then turn of the phone and power t up holding the volume down button and it will do the magic am i right ?

Search on marketplace for clockwork mod - use it to boot to recovery mode - then, if you have a flashable zip rom stored in the root folder of your phone you can just flash the rom from there - best to backup and wipe first
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Scrapster said:
Search on marketplace for clockwork mod - use it to boot to recovery mode - then, if you have a flashable zip rom stored in the root folder of your phone you can just flash the rom from there - best to backup and wipe first
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
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Doesn't work without a little trickery on the Wildfire S
Let's not confuse the helpless who can type a lot better than he can read. Not short of words anyways...
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theq86 said:
I don't blame you in particular, I just give examples. So sorry if you understood it that way.
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Don't apologize to rude and demanding people.
I do blame him/her in particular. He/She (Probably a He-She) is rude and aggressive as a first method of asking what they need to know.
You know the old catching more flies with honey than vinegar thing...
Just a thought for your future correspondence.

Oops - must read better myself before rushing to help!
Thanks for pointing that out
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium

d33ps1x said:
Doesn't work without a little trickery on the Wildfire S
Let's not confuse the helpless who can type a lot better than he can read. Not short of words anyways...
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Don't apologize to rude and demanding people.
I do blame him/her in particular. He/She (Probably a He-She) is rude and aggressive as a first method of asking what they need to know.
You know the old catching more flies with honey than vinegar thing...
Just a thought for your future correspondence.
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Scrapster thank you very much
but still same question here who to wipe before flashing a custom rom ?
d33ps1x
you are the rude one here , you cant blame a decent guy as theq86 for not being as rude as you, and you can't blame a new comer like me for his lack of information
so if You Haven't Got Anything Good to Say, Please Shut Up

After reading through this thread and chuckling a little bit, I came to the conclusion that rooting may not be for you, iximedaixi. Not to be mean or anything. But the guides here are excellent. I'm just saying that it might be something for you to consider because the WFS makes an expensive paperweight.
Theq86, you are too kind.

CafeKampuchia said:
After reading through this thread and chuckling a little bit, I came to the conclusion that rooting may not be for you, iximedaixi. Not to be mean or anything. But the guides here are excellent. I'm just saying that it might be something for you to consider because the WFS makes an expensive paperweight.
Theq86, you are too kind.
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omg you people don't know how to be useful sooo my wfs is a beatiful paperwight " which is the dumpest expression i ever heard "
but i love my wfs
so same as your mate if you've got no thing useful to add please shut up

@iximedaixi I think you should to shut up
.... i really appreciate all the work your doing here.... or i spent 2 days looking for ...
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you wrote (or mayby I'm bad reader)
that's kind of funny, cause in my opinion you don't spent a minute to find what you're looking for and that's RUDE !!!
I've bought my WFS last friday, next day I've find out about Unlock, then quick visit here and since last weekend I've unlocked, rooted and OC phone
Just a little bit of good will

iximedaixi said:
omg you people don't know how to be useful sooo my wfs is a beatiful paperwight " which is the dumpest expression i ever heard "
but i love my wfs
so same as your mate if you've got no thing useful to add please shut up
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you are too arrogant and selfish, take a note that alreade few people in the few posts here said that to you.
Be kind and don't spam. Try to understand when you are false and "shut up"... that was not kind at all.
anyway - I hope your willingness not to gain knowledge will change!
almost everybody does when grow up
Regards
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one more thing, please read the forum rules:
3. Post only using a clear subject and message.
You're most likely to receive a helpful answer to your question if you use a short subject title that describes your problem and a message that explains in detail what your problem is and what you've tried to solve it.
for example

MindBurn010 said:
you are too arrogant and selfish, take a note that alreade few people in the few posts here said that to you.
Be kind and don't spam. Try to understand when you are false and "shut up"... that was not kind at all.
anyway - I hope your willingness not to gain knowledge will change!
almost everybody does when grow up
Regards
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one more thing, please read the forum rules:
3. Post only using a clear subject and message.
You're most likely to receive a helpful answer to your question if you use a short subject title that describes your problem and a message that explains in detail what your problem is and what you've tried to solve it.
for example
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Thank you guys for pointing me out to the right direction
though i still don't get it whether i'm wrong for being mean or not searching enough but trust me i'm not that bad i spent many time searching for a complete view for this rooting thing but i didn't find what i'm searching for so i started this post
but as i see every one is against me here so my sincere apologies goes to every one and my thanks too

iximedaixi said:
Thank you guys for pointing me out to the right direction
though i still don't get it whether i'm wrong for being mean or not searching enough but trust me i'm not that bad i spent many time searching for a complete view for this rooting thing but i didn't find what i'm searching for so i started this post
but as i see every one is against me here so my sincere apologies goes to every one and my thanks too
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My point is just do not be rude or arrogant and there are tons of people here willing to help. I cannot help you at this time cause i am out of time collecting the proper links for you but when you ask right as i said i am sure a lot of ppl will help.
also try to understand even a little our manner because of the spam threads here.
no bad feelings

MindBurn010 said:
My point is just do not be rude or arrogant and there are tons of people here willing to help. I cannot help you at this time cause i am out of time collecting the proper links for you but when you ask right as i said i am sure a lot of ppl will help.
also try to understand even a little our manner because of the spam threads here.
no bad feelings
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Yah and uh...sorry for calling you a He-She even though if you are that's totally cool and all. We're born who we are.

d33ps1x said:
Yah and uh...sorry for calling you a He-She even though if you are that's totally cool and all. We're born who we are.
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d33ps1x you are so funny
i like how this post is ending in dramatic way

iximedaixi said:
d33ps1x you are so funny
i like how this post is ending in dramatic way
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So, what happened with the rooting? Need more help?

MindBurn010 said:
So, what happened with the rooting? Need more help?
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actually it's the exams season here in my country so i don't have much time to search the forum i guess i'll wait till the end of the exams and do it the hard way
but thank you anyway

[Q] need help since 4.0.4

Hello every one.
Could someone help me please, since i am on 4.0.4, I have a bad reception (sorry i'm french). I have to go outside of my house to call and receive calls. It's a little bit laggy too. I didn't root or change anything.
I'm noob with nexus, i used to have a desire hd, galaxy s2 and a xperia play, and installing custom roms was easy. With nexus, i don't know what to change to have a good reception and a smooth system (kernel, radio etc)
Actually, i'd like to know if there's a rom who could make my phone smoother and stable. No overclock or things like that, just a stable system and a phone who would have a good network reception (i don't know the words for that, i mean that i'd like to call from my house not outside ^^)
I know my question is noobish, i'm sorry for that, but could someone help me?
Bye everyone and thanks in advance!
Yann

Go to general section and download the toolkit for Nexus everything you need its there.. Theres also a baseband (radio) section where you can download all kind of radio files CWM flasheables and fastboot flasheables, but be carefull if your english its limited... Dont do something you dont understand or you could brick your phone
First create a backup of your phone cuz unlocking the bootloader will wipe the phone then root it and install CWM, and then you are able to flash any kind of radios you like until you find whats Best for you and theres some tips to follow everytime you flash a new radio like wiping the cache and stuff.. You should read some before trying
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

@msedek, you should be doing a little more reading/testing yourself.
first, unlock bootloader (you'll need fastboot for this).you don't have to root to install cwm, neither to install kernels, basebands or bootloaders. you can do it the google way, which is using fastboot. don't go telling people that root/cwm is needed to do these things.
@op, do some reading. use a translator if you need to. read roms/kernels/bb/bootloaders threads's first posts fully at least twice, particularly the install instructions. at this stage, there's pretty much all the info you need.
and just so we're clear, it's pretty hard to brick a nexus. just be extra cautious when flashing bootloaders.
Sent from my TF201

thank you guys

bk201doesntexist said:
@msedek, you should be doing a little more reading/testing yourself.
first, unlock bootloader (you'll need fastboot for this).you don't have to root to install cwm, neither to install kernels, basebands or bootloaders. you can do it the google way, which is using fastboot. don't go telling people that root/cwm is needed to do these things.
@op, do some reading. use a translator if you need to. read roms/kernels/bb/bootloaders threads's first posts fully at least twice, particularly the install instructions. at this stage, there's pretty much all the info you need.
and just so we're clear, it's pretty hard to brick a nexus. just be extra cautious when flashing bootloaders.
Sent from my TF201
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Well its easiest and safest way for a starter i managed to do all kind of stuff by myself just with the toolkit, im also a starter and you dont need to come here and pretend to be the gnexus allmighty saying bull**** and not giving other option than go read xxxxxx bull****... Stop being a troll...
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

msedek said:
Well its easiest and safest way for a starter i managed to do all kind of stuff by myself just with the toolkit, im also a starter and you dont need to come here and pretend to be the gnexus allmighty saying bull**** and not giving other option than go read xxxxxx bull****... Stop being a troll...
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bs? a troll?.... i was correcting/adding to what you said.. using a toolkit is not the safest way. the safest way is to learn what that script does or doesn't, or by using the tools themselves.
and as to searching, it's one of the rules of xda. actually, it's the number ONE rule.
gnexus almighty? LOL you amuse me

Jelly bean root

I have this big problem where I flashed jelly bean and lost root and cwm, boot loader is still unlocked, but I can't access recovery I get this android sign with a clap open and an exclamation mark on it and it doesn't go to recovery so how do I root ? Sry if this is already posted but I can't find anything help full
Thanks I advance
Sent from my Asus Transformer Pad Infinity

ray3andrei said:
I have this big problem where I flashed jelly bean and lost root and cwm, boot loader is still unlocked, but I can't access recovery I get this android sign with a clap open and an exclamation mark on it and it doesn't go to recovery so how do I root ? Sry if this is already posted but I can't find anything help full
Thanks I advance
Sent from my Asus Transformer Pad Infinity
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Try rerooting or flashing the stock image using this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1454314

This one works also, out of experience.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392310

jprocha101 said:
Try rerooting or flashing the stock image using this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1454314
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Rerooting doesn't work I may flash 4.0.4 stock back and then install cwm and stock 4.1 and imediatly super su... but will this wipe any of my files ?
Many thanks
Sent from my Jelly Beaned GNexus

ray3andrei said:
Rerooting doesn't work I may flash 4.0.4 stock back and then install cwm and stock 4.1 and imediatly super su... but will this wipe any of my files ?
Many thanks
Sent from my Jelly Beaned GNexus
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Just flash the file that is located in post #2 in the "flash" link in my signature.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

ray3andrei said:
I have this big problem where I flashed jelly bean and lost root and cwm, boot loader is still unlocked, but I can't access recovery I get this android sign with a clap open and an exclamation mark on it and it doesn't go to recovery so how do I root ? Sry if this is already posted but I can't find anything help full
Thanks I advance
Sent from my Asus Transformer Pad Infinity
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jprocha101 said:
Try rerooting or flashing the stock image using this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1454314
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Mikedick said:
This one works also, out of experience.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392310
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why are you suggesting using a toolkit to a user that doesn't know what's happening manually, let alone what a toolkit does.
It will be that much harder to track down any issues that may arise.

bk201doesntexist said:
why are you suggesting using a toolkit to a user that doesn't know what's happening manually, let alone what a toolkit does.
It will be that much harder to track down any issues that may arise.
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LOL, I think that's the whole point of the ToolKit.. So the user doesn't have to go through the manual stuff. Kind of hard to mess up on the V7 toolkit. The Dev made it pretty much dummy proof. As long as the drivers(Android 1.0) are installed on your computer you're pretty much good 2 go

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LOL, I think that's the whole point of the ToolKit.. So the user doesn't have to go through the manual stuff.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469909
Screwhead24 said:
Kind of hard to mess up on the V7 toolkit. The Dev made it pretty much dummy proof. As long as the drivers(Android 1.0) are installed on your computer you're pretty much good 2 go
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I beg to differ. Take a look at some of the linked posts in the link I posted above, and you may feel differently.

efrant said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469909
I beg to differ. Take a look at some of the linked posts in the link I posted above, and you may feel differently.
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Yeah I'm aware of that thread but 90% of that entire thread are just back and forth post of their experience with other toolkits with other phones and how people should learn how to do it manually and yada yada LOL.. I read that entire thread before I used V7 toolkit to root mines and have to say I don't see what the big fuss is about when someone wants to do it the easy way. It's very simple and very hard to mess up.. All you do is press 1,2,3 ect.

Screwhead24 said:
Yeah I'm aware of that thread but 90% of that entire thread are just back and forth post of their experience with other toolkits with other phones and how people should learn how to do it manually and yada yada LOL.. I read that entire thread before I used V7 toolkit to root mines and have to say I don't see what the big fuss is about when someone wants to do it the easy way. It's very simple and very hard to mess up.. All you do is press 1,2,3 ect.
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It's not about other toolkits, and it's certainly not about other phones -- it's a GNex thread...
It's fine to use a toolkit when you understand how it's doing things, but if you don't, AND something screws up, you'll be right back here with a new thread saying something like: "I used a toolkit to do abc and now it won't xyz", and asking for help. (Did you click on any of the example links in that thread?) Thing is, it is much more difficult to troubleshoot when a toolkit is used, compared to typing in the commands yourself.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

efrant said:
It's not about other toolkits, and it's certainly not about other phones -- it's a GNex thread...
It's fine to use a toolkit when you understand how it's doing things, but if you don't, AND something screws up, you'll be right back here with a new thread saying something like: "I used a toolkit to do abc and now it won't xyz", and asking for help. (Did you click on any of the example links in that thread?) Thing is, it is much more difficult to troubleshoot when a toolkit is used, compared to typing in the commands yourself.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
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Yeah efrant you said it, I don't have your way with words man.
Sent from my i9250

efrant said:
It's not about other toolkits, and it's certainly not about other phones -- it's a GNex thread...
It's fine to use a toolkit when you understand how it's doing things, but if you don't, AND something screws up, you'll be right back here with a new thread saying something like: "I used a toolkit to do abc and now it won't xyz", and asking for help. (Did you click on any of the example links in that thread?) Thing is, it is much more difficult to troubleshoot when a toolkit is used, compared to typing in the commands yourself.
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At the end of last year, knowing that I will get a Nexus One and encourage by a relative, I decided to mod my G1.
It was a painful experience, for the XDA devs and Forum members, because I was totaly new and inexperienced.
I would like to pay tribute mostly to Frankdrey for his constant and kind help.
I was embarrassed and ashamed by my misunderstanding and mistakes. He never gave up on me.
I am for ever grateful to him. Should I say I hate him for giving me the virus of toying my phones.
He was not alone in his help. Demkator brought his much needed contribution too.
I am very thankful to him. And, of course, I took advantage of the outstanding job done by Ezterry.
Without them I would not have succeeded in rooting my G1.
Without them I would have not learn how to unlock, root, select the right radio, a Rom, a Kernel. Without the knowledge I acquired from them I would not have tried to mod my Nexus One after getting my GSM GalaxyNexus.
Maybe I would have had two bricks.
If at the time I had found a Toolkit chances are that, during my strugle to understand and implement the different steps to use Adb and Fastboot and to install a Rom, I would have embrace it.
That is why I fully agree with you, Efrant: we learn and the more we learn the more we increase our capabilities.
As far as my Galaxy Nexus is concerned I am waiting for the OTA to use and play with it.
Then I will unlock it (thanks, Efrant for the tutorial) and put a Rom and apps.
Needless to say I hope that we will be able to install a "unified search" as it is now with ICS 4.04.

Root Question

I’m still learning about my Galaxy Nexus, and I have been trolling XDA for a few days. Is there a way to root the device without flashing a custom ROM. My device already has JB, so I was looking to root for recovery, and SU. I just want to use some of my root apps, like Titanium Backup and SnakeS Battery Booster.
Thanks for the work you all do.

use this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1529058

cybereric518 said:
I’m still learning about my Galaxy Nexus, and I have been trolling XDA for a few days. Is there a way to root the device without flashing a custom ROM. My device already has JB, so I was looking to root for recovery, and SU. I just want to use some of my root apps, like Titanium Backup and SnakeS Battery Booster.
Thanks for the work you all do.
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SnakeS battery booster is actually a rip off of DX battery booster from the play store which is the proper official version.

cybereric518 said:
I’m still learning about my Galaxy Nexus, and I have been trolling XDA for a few days. Is there a way to root the device without flashing a custom ROM. My device already has JB, so I was looking to root for recovery, and SU. I just want to use some of my root apps, like Titanium Backup and SnakeS Battery Booster.
Thanks for the work you all do.
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Try this toolkit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392310
It helped me when i was stuck for drivers, but it can unlock, root, install busybox etc, really handy for beginners like me.
Hope it helps :fingers-crossed:

Knighthawk108 said:
Try this toolkit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392310
It helped me when i was stuck for drivers, but it can unlock, root, install busybox etc, really handy for beginners like me.
Hope it helps :fingers-crossed:
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no. do not use the toolkit. use the post i linked.

Zepius said:
no. do not use the toolkit. use the post i linked.
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Can i ask why Zep? im a noob, only used it for drivers on my new laptop and worked fine, but seen it had other features like cybereric asked for?
it is better to learn the way in your link i guess though

Knighthawk108 said:
Can i ask why Zep? im a noob, only used it for drivers on my new laptop and worked fine, but seen it had other features like cybereric asked for?
it is better to learn the way in your link i guess though
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it is better to learn how to do it as you will be better able to fix the phone yourself if something happens
if the toolkit broke your phone, you wouldve created a thread and with something similar to this title: '[HELP] MY PHONE IS BRICKED'
with the body of the thread something like this: "i used such and such toolkit now my phone wont even boot! please help!"

Zepius said:
it is better to learn how to do it as you will be better able to fix the phone yourself if something happens
if the toolkit broke your phone, you wouldve created a thread and with something similar to this title: '[HELP] MY PHONE IS BRICKED'
with the body of the thread something like this: "i used such and such toolkit now my phone wont even boot! please help!"
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LOL your absolutely right! thanks for clarifying

This thread was custom made for curious new gnex users:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812959
[REF] efrant's "Android for Galaxy Nexus" 101 & FAQs

So what I have been reading...no matter which method I use, when I unlock the bootloader, it will reset the phone to factory. So I'm wondering the reset would be to ICS or JB?

cybereric518 said:
So what I have been reading...no matter which method I use, when I unlock the bootloader, it will reset the phone to factory. So I'm wondering the reset would be to ICS or JB?
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The android version you're currently running. It just wipes the data partition (including /sdcard which in turn is a symlink of /data/media).
Cheers!

To answer your question, yes you can be rooted on stock rom and not use a custom rom.

[Q] Only Root Galaxy Nexus without erasing any data

HI,
I've using my Galaxy Nexus (GSM) for a long time, but i want to get Root access, i've been reading a lot and it seems if i use Galaxy Nexus Toolkit it will delete all my data, there's any way to root it without losing any data?
Thanks a lot! :good: :fingers-crossed:

milerx said:
HI,
I've using my Galaxy Nexus (GSM) for a long time, but i want to get Root access, i've been reading a lot and it seems if i use Galaxy Nexus Toolkit it will delete all my data, there's any way to root it without losing any data?
Thanks a lot! :good: :fingers-crossed:
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no.
you have to unlock your bootloader (no matter which method you use, also, dont use a toolkit, use the sticky at the top of the forum) which wipes your data. period.

Zepius said:
you have to unlock your bootloader (no matter which method you use, also, dont use a toolkit, use the sticky at the top of the forum) which wipes your data. period.
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I did a root of my Galaxy Nexus, when I flashed the new 4.1. It did work fine. When the phone did the small update to 4.1.2, can it be true that it rolled back the root? My phone don't seem to be rooted anymore.
Isn't it possible to get root permissions again, without loosing data?

IsonNick said:
I did a root of my Galaxy Nexus, when I flashed the new 4.1. It did work fine. When the phone did the small update to 4.1.2, can it be true that it rolled back the root? My phone don't seem to be rooted anymore.
Isn't it possible to get root permissions again, without loosing data?
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if your bootloader is unlocked, reflash the supersu.zip
otherwise, you have to unlock the bootloader and it will wipe your device.

Zepius said:
if your bootloader is unlocked, reflash the supersu.zip
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It should be. Anyway to see that?
(sorry for noob questions)

IsonNick said:
It should be. Anyway to see that?
(sorry for noob questions)
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if you enter fastboot, it will says "lock status: unlocked"
or you can see if when you first start up your phone if there's a little lock that is unlocked.

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or you can see if when you first start up your phone if there's a little lock that is unlocked.
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Hep hep! The lock is unlocked. Perfect.
When I receive the 4.2 update (my phone is yakju), I will root again. Thank you for your help, I appreciate it a lot.

Similar thing happened to me. I was messing around with different ROM's for some time but in the end went back to the stock ROM. My phone now shows unlocked and using the stock recovery (as described here http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-samsung-galaxy-nexus/243004-recovery-mode.html).
The stock recovery offers 4 options: reboot, apply update from ADB or USB, wipe.
How do I "reflash the supersu.zip" from here? I want to avoid wiping as everything is set up as I like it now, and because it isn't rooted I can't back it up, catch 22 thing

madsere said:
Similar thing happened to me. I was messing around with different ROM's for some time but in the end went back to the stock ROM. My phone now shows unlocked and using the stock recovery (as described here http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-samsung-galaxy-nexus/243004-recovery-mode.html).
The stock recovery offers 4 options: reboot, apply update from ADB or USB, wipe.
How do I "reflash the supersu.zip" from here? I want to avoid wiping as everything is set up as I like it now, and because it isn't rooted I can't back it up, catch 22 thing
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Why did you bump a 4 months old thread?
Obviously, you need a custom recovery to flash a non-Google zip...
Sent from my Nexus

bk201doesntexist said:
Why did you bump a 4 months old thread?
Obviously, you need a custom recovery to flash a non-Google zip...
Sent from my Nexus
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I'm sorry, I didn't know there was a rule against that. I searched Google for the problem and this thread came up closest.
Well sorry if I am not a genius like you who know everything already. I thought that forums like this was for asking questions.
It would be nice if instead of just being mean and nasty you'd offer some constructive suggestions, such as would installing a custom recovery wipe the phone? The distinction between the boot loader and the custom recovery isn't clear to me.

madsere said:
I'm sorry, I didn't know there was a rule against that. I searched Google for the problem and this thread came up closest.
Well sorry if I am not a genius like you who know everything already. I thought that forums like this was for asking questions.
It would be nice if instead of just being mean and nasty you'd offer some constructive suggestions, such as would installing a custom recovery wipe the phone? The distinction between the boot loader and the custom recovery isn't clear to me.
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Yeah?
Then it would be nice if you read the stickies.
Sent from my Nexus

madsere said:
I'm sorry, I didn't know there was a rule against that. I searched Google for the problem and this thread came up closest.
Well sorry if I am not a genius like you who know everything already. I thought that forums like this was for asking questions.
It would be nice if instead of just being mean and nasty you'd offer some constructive suggestions, such as would installing a custom recovery wipe the phone? The distinction between the boot loader and the custom recovery isn't clear to me.
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Sarcastic, aren't we? Look, XDA is first and foremost a developer site for developers to develop. Answering and asking questions about that development is only incidental. Members are expected to have read the rules of XDA and to follow them. That includes not bumping old threads, but it also includes an expectation that you will read the information readily available to you. Seeing the same common questions get asked daily, when there are good guides made specifically for this purpose, gets very old very fast. The constructive suggestion is to search and read. Guides abound both in the stickies and elsewhere, and the fact that you haven't found answers to your fairly common questions tells me that you either haven't made an effort to look, or you just don't understand and therefore probably shouldn't be messing with your phone.

I was able to root my gnex without wiping the data!
I dont know how it happened, but it happened, I was surprised too because I was really frustrated couldn't root it even after 10-15 tries ( I am a big time noob) and suddenly I unlocked the boot loader and rooted the phone without any loss of data, actually I was rooting because I had the VM100U something memory issue and my phone was terribly slow! I was surprised becasue i was expecting to copy all my files and crap one by one but now I have no issues