HI,
I've using my Galaxy Nexus (GSM) for a long time, but i want to get Root access, i've been reading a lot and it seems if i use Galaxy Nexus Toolkit it will delete all my data, there's any way to root it without losing any data?
Thanks a lot! :good: :fingers-crossed:
milerx said:
HI,
I've using my Galaxy Nexus (GSM) for a long time, but i want to get Root access, i've been reading a lot and it seems if i use Galaxy Nexus Toolkit it will delete all my data, there's any way to root it without losing any data?
Thanks a lot! :good: :fingers-crossed:
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no.
you have to unlock your bootloader (no matter which method you use, also, dont use a toolkit, use the sticky at the top of the forum) which wipes your data. period.
Zepius said:
you have to unlock your bootloader (no matter which method you use, also, dont use a toolkit, use the sticky at the top of the forum) which wipes your data. period.
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I did a root of my Galaxy Nexus, when I flashed the new 4.1. It did work fine. When the phone did the small update to 4.1.2, can it be true that it rolled back the root? My phone don't seem to be rooted anymore.
Isn't it possible to get root permissions again, without loosing data?
IsonNick said:
I did a root of my Galaxy Nexus, when I flashed the new 4.1. It did work fine. When the phone did the small update to 4.1.2, can it be true that it rolled back the root? My phone don't seem to be rooted anymore.
Isn't it possible to get root permissions again, without loosing data?
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if your bootloader is unlocked, reflash the supersu.zip
otherwise, you have to unlock the bootloader and it will wipe your device.
Zepius said:
if your bootloader is unlocked, reflash the supersu.zip
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It should be. Anyway to see that?
(sorry for noob questions)
IsonNick said:
It should be. Anyway to see that?
(sorry for noob questions)
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if you enter fastboot, it will says "lock status: unlocked"
or you can see if when you first start up your phone if there's a little lock that is unlocked.
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or you can see if when you first start up your phone if there's a little lock that is unlocked.
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Hep hep! The lock is unlocked. Perfect.
When I receive the 4.2 update (my phone is yakju), I will root again. Thank you for your help, I appreciate it a lot.
Similar thing happened to me. I was messing around with different ROM's for some time but in the end went back to the stock ROM. My phone now shows unlocked and using the stock recovery (as described here http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-samsung-galaxy-nexus/243004-recovery-mode.html).
The stock recovery offers 4 options: reboot, apply update from ADB or USB, wipe.
How do I "reflash the supersu.zip" from here? I want to avoid wiping as everything is set up as I like it now, and because it isn't rooted I can't back it up, catch 22 thing
madsere said:
Similar thing happened to me. I was messing around with different ROM's for some time but in the end went back to the stock ROM. My phone now shows unlocked and using the stock recovery (as described here http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-samsung-galaxy-nexus/243004-recovery-mode.html).
The stock recovery offers 4 options: reboot, apply update from ADB or USB, wipe.
How do I "reflash the supersu.zip" from here? I want to avoid wiping as everything is set up as I like it now, and because it isn't rooted I can't back it up, catch 22 thing
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Why did you bump a 4 months old thread?
Obviously, you need a custom recovery to flash a non-Google zip...
Sent from my Nexus
bk201doesntexist said:
Why did you bump a 4 months old thread?
Obviously, you need a custom recovery to flash a non-Google zip...
Sent from my Nexus
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I'm sorry, I didn't know there was a rule against that. I searched Google for the problem and this thread came up closest.
Well sorry if I am not a genius like you who know everything already. I thought that forums like this was for asking questions.
It would be nice if instead of just being mean and nasty you'd offer some constructive suggestions, such as would installing a custom recovery wipe the phone? The distinction between the boot loader and the custom recovery isn't clear to me.
madsere said:
I'm sorry, I didn't know there was a rule against that. I searched Google for the problem and this thread came up closest.
Well sorry if I am not a genius like you who know everything already. I thought that forums like this was for asking questions.
It would be nice if instead of just being mean and nasty you'd offer some constructive suggestions, such as would installing a custom recovery wipe the phone? The distinction between the boot loader and the custom recovery isn't clear to me.
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Yeah?
Then it would be nice if you read the stickies.
Sent from my Nexus
madsere said:
I'm sorry, I didn't know there was a rule against that. I searched Google for the problem and this thread came up closest.
Well sorry if I am not a genius like you who know everything already. I thought that forums like this was for asking questions.
It would be nice if instead of just being mean and nasty you'd offer some constructive suggestions, such as would installing a custom recovery wipe the phone? The distinction between the boot loader and the custom recovery isn't clear to me.
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Sarcastic, aren't we? Look, XDA is first and foremost a developer site for developers to develop. Answering and asking questions about that development is only incidental. Members are expected to have read the rules of XDA and to follow them. That includes not bumping old threads, but it also includes an expectation that you will read the information readily available to you. Seeing the same common questions get asked daily, when there are good guides made specifically for this purpose, gets very old very fast. The constructive suggestion is to search and read. Guides abound both in the stickies and elsewhere, and the fact that you haven't found answers to your fairly common questions tells me that you either haven't made an effort to look, or you just don't understand and therefore probably shouldn't be messing with your phone.
I was able to root my gnex without wiping the data!
I dont know how it happened, but it happened, I was surprised too because I was really frustrated couldn't root it even after 10-15 tries ( I am a big time noob) and suddenly I unlocked the boot loader and rooted the phone without any loss of data, actually I was rooting because I had the VM100U something memory issue and my phone was terribly slow! I was surprised becasue i was expecting to copy all my files and crap one by one but now I have no issues
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Sorry for being noobish, just got a nexus, UK and it's on 4.0.1, been reading a lot, and very much overwhelmind, now, coming from my galaxy s2, which, I had been used to flashing and routing daily. I managed to use the toolkit, to root my phone, smashing app, will definitely donate, to the dev, as i managed to root, in pretty much 5mins. My problem is, whats the best route, to follow, in order for me to have the latest stock 4.0.4, because I have read a lot of stuff, so now muddled as to what path to take. Is it a matter, of just downloading the official rom, in the general section, and flashing it via custom recovery, sorry for the noobish questions, it's been a long day, trying to get to know the phone, am sure, if someone can help me from here, all be fine. I also tried to seek for an update, under about, but phone says am on latest firmware, which is 4.0.1,so appreciate your guidance please.
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Sorry for being noobish, just got a nexus, UK and it's on 4.0.1, been reading a lot, and very much overwhelmind, now, coming from my galaxy s2, which, I had been used to flashing and routing daily. I managed to use the toolkit, to root my phone, smashing app, will definitely donate, to the dev, as i managed to root, in pretty much 5mins. My problem is, whats the best route, to follow, in order for me to have the latest stock 4.0.4, because I have read a lot of stuff, so now muddled as to what path to take. Is it a matter, of just downloading the official rom, in the general section, and flashing it via custom recovery, sorry for the noobish questions, it's been a long day, trying to get to know the phone, am sure, if someone can help me from here, all be fine. I also tried to seek for an update, under about, but phone says am on latest firmware, which is 4.0.1,so appreciate your guidance please.
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Follow the directions here. Note that this will wipe your data...
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Follow the directions here. Note that this will wipe your data...
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Phew cheers buddy, haven't tried this yet, as at work, will give it a short when I get home, anything easier than this please, as i just have a forbia for anything called adb please? Also, don't understand why my device is still on 4. 0. 1, been hitting the update button continously with no luck, but prepared to use other means, as suggested above, to get the device updated. Thanks again in advance.
marvi0 said:
Phew cheers buddy, haven't tried this yet, as at work, will give it a short when I get home, anything easier than this please, as i just have a forbia for anything called adb please? Also, don't understand why my device is still on 4. 0. 1, been hitting the update button continously with no luck, but prepared to use other means, as suggested above, to get the device updated. Thanks again in advance.
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You CAN flash factory images through the toolkit you know. You can download them at Google, put them in the correct subfolder of the GNEX toolkit folder and flash away. In order to do that you do have to have an unlocked bootloader and you will loose your root. Unlocking the bootloader will loose all your data (including under the SDCARD folder (so everything you stored will be gone)!. Rooting can be done again through the toolkit...
Or you can download a different flashable zip file that you can flash from CWM recovery.
Hmm thanks this looks more like my sort of of a thing "different flashable zip file that you can flash from CWM recovery.", were can i find this please?. Thanks.
I have this big problem where I flashed jelly bean and lost root and cwm, boot loader is still unlocked, but I can't access recovery I get this android sign with a clap open and an exclamation mark on it and it doesn't go to recovery so how do I root ? Sry if this is already posted but I can't find anything help full
Thanks I advance
Sent from my Asus Transformer Pad Infinity
ray3andrei said:
I have this big problem where I flashed jelly bean and lost root and cwm, boot loader is still unlocked, but I can't access recovery I get this android sign with a clap open and an exclamation mark on it and it doesn't go to recovery so how do I root ? Sry if this is already posted but I can't find anything help full
Thanks I advance
Sent from my Asus Transformer Pad Infinity
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Try rerooting or flashing the stock image using this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1454314
This one works also, out of experience.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392310
jprocha101 said:
Try rerooting or flashing the stock image using this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1454314
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Rerooting doesn't work I may flash 4.0.4 stock back and then install cwm and stock 4.1 and imediatly super su... but will this wipe any of my files ?
Many thanks
Sent from my Jelly Beaned GNexus
ray3andrei said:
Rerooting doesn't work I may flash 4.0.4 stock back and then install cwm and stock 4.1 and imediatly super su... but will this wipe any of my files ?
Many thanks
Sent from my Jelly Beaned GNexus
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Just flash the file that is located in post #2 in the "flash" link in my signature.
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ray3andrei said:
I have this big problem where I flashed jelly bean and lost root and cwm, boot loader is still unlocked, but I can't access recovery I get this android sign with a clap open and an exclamation mark on it and it doesn't go to recovery so how do I root ? Sry if this is already posted but I can't find anything help full
Thanks I advance
Sent from my Asus Transformer Pad Infinity
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Try rerooting or flashing the stock image using this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1454314
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Mikedick said:
This one works also, out of experience.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392310
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why are you suggesting using a toolkit to a user that doesn't know what's happening manually, let alone what a toolkit does.
It will be that much harder to track down any issues that may arise.
bk201doesntexist said:
why are you suggesting using a toolkit to a user that doesn't know what's happening manually, let alone what a toolkit does.
It will be that much harder to track down any issues that may arise.
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LOL, I think that's the whole point of the ToolKit.. So the user doesn't have to go through the manual stuff. Kind of hard to mess up on the V7 toolkit. The Dev made it pretty much dummy proof. As long as the drivers(Android 1.0) are installed on your computer you're pretty much good 2 go
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LOL, I think that's the whole point of the ToolKit.. So the user doesn't have to go through the manual stuff.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469909
Screwhead24 said:
Kind of hard to mess up on the V7 toolkit. The Dev made it pretty much dummy proof. As long as the drivers(Android 1.0) are installed on your computer you're pretty much good 2 go
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I beg to differ. Take a look at some of the linked posts in the link I posted above, and you may feel differently.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469909
I beg to differ. Take a look at some of the linked posts in the link I posted above, and you may feel differently.
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Yeah I'm aware of that thread but 90% of that entire thread are just back and forth post of their experience with other toolkits with other phones and how people should learn how to do it manually and yada yada LOL.. I read that entire thread before I used V7 toolkit to root mines and have to say I don't see what the big fuss is about when someone wants to do it the easy way. It's very simple and very hard to mess up.. All you do is press 1,2,3 ect.
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Yeah I'm aware of that thread but 90% of that entire thread are just back and forth post of their experience with other toolkits with other phones and how people should learn how to do it manually and yada yada LOL.. I read that entire thread before I used V7 toolkit to root mines and have to say I don't see what the big fuss is about when someone wants to do it the easy way. It's very simple and very hard to mess up.. All you do is press 1,2,3 ect.
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It's not about other toolkits, and it's certainly not about other phones -- it's a GNex thread...
It's fine to use a toolkit when you understand how it's doing things, but if you don't, AND something screws up, you'll be right back here with a new thread saying something like: "I used a toolkit to do abc and now it won't xyz", and asking for help. (Did you click on any of the example links in that thread?) Thing is, it is much more difficult to troubleshoot when a toolkit is used, compared to typing in the commands yourself.
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It's not about other toolkits, and it's certainly not about other phones -- it's a GNex thread...
It's fine to use a toolkit when you understand how it's doing things, but if you don't, AND something screws up, you'll be right back here with a new thread saying something like: "I used a toolkit to do abc and now it won't xyz", and asking for help. (Did you click on any of the example links in that thread?) Thing is, it is much more difficult to troubleshoot when a toolkit is used, compared to typing in the commands yourself.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
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Yeah efrant you said it, I don't have your way with words man.
Sent from my i9250
efrant said:
It's not about other toolkits, and it's certainly not about other phones -- it's a GNex thread...
It's fine to use a toolkit when you understand how it's doing things, but if you don't, AND something screws up, you'll be right back here with a new thread saying something like: "I used a toolkit to do abc and now it won't xyz", and asking for help. (Did you click on any of the example links in that thread?) Thing is, it is much more difficult to troubleshoot when a toolkit is used, compared to typing in the commands yourself.
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At the end of last year, knowing that I will get a Nexus One and encourage by a relative, I decided to mod my G1.
It was a painful experience, for the XDA devs and Forum members, because I was totaly new and inexperienced.
I would like to pay tribute mostly to Frankdrey for his constant and kind help.
I was embarrassed and ashamed by my misunderstanding and mistakes. He never gave up on me.
I am for ever grateful to him. Should I say I hate him for giving me the virus of toying my phones.
He was not alone in his help. Demkator brought his much needed contribution too.
I am very thankful to him. And, of course, I took advantage of the outstanding job done by Ezterry.
Without them I would not have succeeded in rooting my G1.
Without them I would have not learn how to unlock, root, select the right radio, a Rom, a Kernel. Without the knowledge I acquired from them I would not have tried to mod my Nexus One after getting my GSM GalaxyNexus.
Maybe I would have had two bricks.
If at the time I had found a Toolkit chances are that, during my strugle to understand and implement the different steps to use Adb and Fastboot and to install a Rom, I would have embrace it.
That is why I fully agree with you, Efrant: we learn and the more we learn the more we increase our capabilities.
As far as my Galaxy Nexus is concerned I am waiting for the OTA to use and play with it.
Then I will unlock it (thanks, Efrant for the tutorial) and put a Rom and apps.
Needless to say I hope that we will be able to install a "unified search" as it is now with ICS 4.04.
I’m still learning about my Galaxy Nexus, and I have been trolling XDA for a few days. Is there a way to root the device without flashing a custom ROM. My device already has JB, so I was looking to root for recovery, and SU. I just want to use some of my root apps, like Titanium Backup and SnakeS Battery Booster.
Thanks for the work you all do.
use this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1529058
cybereric518 said:
I’m still learning about my Galaxy Nexus, and I have been trolling XDA for a few days. Is there a way to root the device without flashing a custom ROM. My device already has JB, so I was looking to root for recovery, and SU. I just want to use some of my root apps, like Titanium Backup and SnakeS Battery Booster.
Thanks for the work you all do.
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SnakeS battery booster is actually a rip off of DX battery booster from the play store which is the proper official version.
cybereric518 said:
I’m still learning about my Galaxy Nexus, and I have been trolling XDA for a few days. Is there a way to root the device without flashing a custom ROM. My device already has JB, so I was looking to root for recovery, and SU. I just want to use some of my root apps, like Titanium Backup and SnakeS Battery Booster.
Thanks for the work you all do.
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Try this toolkit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392310
It helped me when i was stuck for drivers, but it can unlock, root, install busybox etc, really handy for beginners like me.
Hope it helps :fingers-crossed:
Knighthawk108 said:
Try this toolkit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392310
It helped me when i was stuck for drivers, but it can unlock, root, install busybox etc, really handy for beginners like me.
Hope it helps :fingers-crossed:
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no. do not use the toolkit. use the post i linked.
Zepius said:
no. do not use the toolkit. use the post i linked.
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Can i ask why Zep? im a noob, only used it for drivers on my new laptop and worked fine, but seen it had other features like cybereric asked for?
it is better to learn the way in your link i guess though
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Can i ask why Zep? im a noob, only used it for drivers on my new laptop and worked fine, but seen it had other features like cybereric asked for?
it is better to learn the way in your link i guess though
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it is better to learn how to do it as you will be better able to fix the phone yourself if something happens
if the toolkit broke your phone, you wouldve created a thread and with something similar to this title: '[HELP] MY PHONE IS BRICKED'
with the body of the thread something like this: "i used such and such toolkit now my phone wont even boot! please help!"
Zepius said:
it is better to learn how to do it as you will be better able to fix the phone yourself if something happens
if the toolkit broke your phone, you wouldve created a thread and with something similar to this title: '[HELP] MY PHONE IS BRICKED'
with the body of the thread something like this: "i used such and such toolkit now my phone wont even boot! please help!"
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LOL your absolutely right! thanks for clarifying
This thread was custom made for curious new gnex users:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812959
[REF] efrant's "Android for Galaxy Nexus" 101 & FAQs
So what I have been reading...no matter which method I use, when I unlock the bootloader, it will reset the phone to factory. So I'm wondering the reset would be to ICS or JB?
cybereric518 said:
So what I have been reading...no matter which method I use, when I unlock the bootloader, it will reset the phone to factory. So I'm wondering the reset would be to ICS or JB?
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The android version you're currently running. It just wipes the data partition (including /sdcard which in turn is a symlink of /data/media).
Cheers!
To answer your question, yes you can be rooted on stock rom and not use a custom rom.
Yea sorry, I know there are tons of threads on rooting this stupid thing but I've been trying out so many different ways today and failed that I'm sick of and tired of this stupid piece of crap.
This is my brother's phone, and it's run out of internal memory (seriously 300 mb?), anyway he has like 10 apps installed on the internal memory, these plus all the updates have filled it up. So now I'm trying to root it so I can swap the SD cards (already got him a 32 gig microSD for that).
And oh boy am I sick of this thing, so far I've tried multiple options and none work, and some are too complicated with poor instructions for me to figure out.
Rooting my Galaxy W was so easy and this thing here just makes me hate everything.
Stuff I've tried:
Sony Xperia Flasher
ERoot
Flash tool
bootloader
I'm at the end of my wits here, completely frustrated and yea, if this where my phone I would have already smashed it with a hammer.
I really don't have time for this sh*t since I have to study for a big test, so I would appreciate something super simple and fast, like with the Galaxy W.
Again, sorry for sounding like a **** and creating yet another thread, but I'm desperate.
Thanks for any help.
dial *#*#7378423#*#* on your phone then go to service info then to configuration & at the bottom what does it say regarding your bootloader ?
Bootloader unlock allowed: Yes
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Bootloader unlock allowed: Yes
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this is good,what version of android do you have ?
It says Android Version 2.3.4
But build number 4.02.A0.69
Dead Metal said:
It says Android Version 2.3.4
But build number 4.02.A0.69
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ok i used this app to root my phone (google it or search this forum for it,easy to find):
DooMLoRD_v4_ROOT-zergRush-busybox-su
& i used this video to unlock bootloader:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-crbhMFSuaQ
Thanks , I'll try that tomorrow, right now I'm just too tiered.
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Thanks , I'll try that tomorrow, right now I'm just too tiered.
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if you need help send me PM & i will reply back in this thread. take care
If you want you can unlock the bootloader (loosing your warranty, of course), and then install a newer version of android up to 4.2.2, which is much more smoother than 2.3.4 and has much more features...
Madness, if you can't figure it out you're either not reading enough or just being lazy. There's about 4 or 5 links in my guide with how to root, add to that the amount of other threads there is, starting a new one means your lazy, because you've read nothing whilst signing up and just want to be spoon fed. Luck for you, there's some willing to do it.
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Rooting Tools
you can root using doomlord root script.
I have rooted several times after flashing few roms and the script works great.
Hope this helps..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321582
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Madness, if you can't figure it out you're either not reading enough or just being lazy. There's about 4 or 5 links in my guide with how to root, add to that the amount of other threads there is, starting a new one means your lazy, because you've read nothing whilst signing up and just want to be spoon fed. Luck for you, there's some willing to do it.
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Had you taken a look at my join date and post count you may have noticed how I did not sign up to be spoon fed to root this device. And had you read my post you may have noticed how I stated that I've already rooted the Galaxy W, which is my phone, which was also real easy and straight forward.
I signed up to be able to hit the thanks button for Sir Arco's CM10 ROM, and give feedback should I notice bugs or other problems with it.
All I wanted was to root it without flashing a new ROM, since all my brother wants is more space on his phone, I don't think he'll want to check the forums constantly to check if there's a new version of a ROM out so he can flash it, so unlocking the bootloader and flashing a new ROM would be pretty pointless.
you can try to use the doomlord process, but you will always install a new rom, in that case will upgrade de phone to 4.0.3 and then you will be able to root the phone with de .bat file inside :good:
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Had you taken a look at my join date and post count you may have noticed how I did not sign up to be spoon fed to root this device.
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But you still clearly hadn't read anything whilst signing up, otherwise you wouldn't have started a new thread on something as common as "how do I root". I assume you will have managed it by now?
XperienceD said:
But you still clearly hadn't read anything whilst signing up, otherwise you wouldn't have started a new thread on something as common as "how do I root". I assume you will have managed it by now?
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I did, which is why I apologized for posting another thread like it, there where also no I do I root this in this forum, since apparently I'm the only one who had trouble with the options that are posted in the guide threads.
And no, the doom script did not work, it did say it was successful but the phone remained unrooted. So after a couple more tries (and rectifying the "drivers out of date" error message) I unlocked the bootloader, tried again a couple of times still to no effect. So I want ahead and flashed a new ROM and Kernel. At first my brother wasn't too happy about that but he's starting to like the new ROM.
Man, it was easier flashing android onto the bloody HP Touchpad than this phone.
I am new to the nexus 7.
Can I root without unlocking the broader?
What is the side effect of unlocking the boot loader?
Is there existing method to root without installing customer recovery?
Thanks
macaumen said:
I am new to the nexus 7.
Can I root without unlocking the broader?
What is the side effect of unlocking the boot loader?
Is there existing method to root without installing customer recovery?
Thanks
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There is currently no known way to root without unlocking the bootloader and using a custom recovery.
Unlocking the bootloader allows you more control over the tablet. Specifically to install custom recovery, ROMs, etc. Most of the benefits from an unlocked bootloader are things you do from a custom recovery, not through the bootloader itself. The only real negative 'side effects' are that you lose some of the safety benefits, since you can do dangerous things if you don't know what you are doing, and that it may void your warranty.
So, if want to root, I must unlock bootloader?
Well I still get ota with bootloader unlocked?
macaumen said:
So, if want to root, I must unlock bootloader?
Well I still get ota with bootloader unlocked?
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1. Yes
2. Technically you can, but not recommend; just wait for the rooted stock and flash that.
teh roxxorz said:
1. Yes
2. Technically you can, but not recommend; just wait for the rooted stock and flash that.
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Regarding your #2, there is no reason not to unlock the bootloader to get OTA updates. The only thing that breaks OTA is custom recovery.
phonic said:
Regarding your #2, there is no reason not to unlock the bootloader to get OTA updates. The only thing that breaks OTA is custom recovery.
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Completely correct. I just said not to do it, cause he seems less experienced, and from my experience, they get freaked out afterwards trying to put it back on. So trying to save him a headache, lol.
I recommend staying stock unless you absolutely need a specific root required app.
Right now there isn't a reason for root access except titanium backup.
I do recommend, however, to go ahead and unlock. It will wipe your device including personal data, so might as well get that out of the way now before you risk losing something important.
You can easily flash a custom recovery and root anytime after that, but I would wait until knowledgeable devs figure out the device a little more first.
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player911 said:
I recommend staying stock unless you absolutely need a specific root required app.
Right now there isn't a reason for root access except titanium backup.
I do recommend, however, to go ahead and unlock. It will wipe your device including personal data, so might as well get that out of the way now before you risk losing something important.
You can easily flash a custom recovery and root anytime after that, but I would wait until knowledgeable devs figure out the device a little more first.
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I'm not sure why you would suggest people not to root now. You mentioned a very good reason to do so - Titanium Backup. Not only is it useful for backups in general, but it's also a lifesaver for copying apps and their data from one device, like someone's old N7, to their new N7.
While I would certainly agree that people should wait before flashing custom ROMs, kernels, hacks, etc., nothing is going to change with rooting your N7 today versus a week or month from now. All the pros and cons will still be the same.
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I'm not sure why you would suggest people not to root now.
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They guy doesn't need root. He also doesn't understand root. So his chances of softbricking are good, and then, instead of us trying to talk him out of rooting, we now have to talk him through how to fix it.... .. Can we count on you to provide this support since your are so OK with him rooting now?
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They guy doesn't need root. He also doesn't understand root. So his chances of softbricking are good, and then, instead of us trying to talk him out of rooting, we now have to talk him through how to fix it.... .. Can we count on your to provide this support since your are so OK with him rooting now?
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Neither you nor I have any idea what he needs or doesn't. He hasn't said anything other than asking some basic questions about the process. There are numerous guides on here that walk people through rooting step by step. There are also a handful of people who have soft bricked their device and asked for and received help. And yes, I have assisted people with similar issues in the past. Everyone on this board has at one point in their lives screwed something up - that's how we learn.
In any case, my point was that there is no clear reason for him not to do it if he wants to. The device is pretty forgiving unless he kills the bootloader.