[Q] *** I really need Informations - Help *** T-Mobile T999 - T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII

Hi there.
I recently purchase a T-Mobile - T999 mobile via ebay. I am from Greece and, here, the cost for a samsung galaxy s3 is almost double....
I still own my international galaxy s i9000 but i thought it was time for a change.
Box is sealed and i ll have it on my hands in less than 3 days.
I did a big research, unfortunately after the purchase, and i realised that.
1. It seems that I9300 is faster than USA versions. Well i have seeen only tests where those guys were always used task manager to close apps and then they had a new test run etc. I didnt saw those mobiles, one next to the other with a normal daily usage. More apps on the backround etc. Is someone here who have made a test like that? Is it a big difference or not?
2. I realised that international roms cant be used on the usa models. Whats the negative on that? Will i be able to use Greek language, menu on it? Models like T999 use certain roms from t-mobile? If yes probably i am going to have a rom with many unuseful apps etc?
3. I found some ways to unlock it. If i unlock it can i unroot it after and use another rom? Will i always be unlocked whatever rom whatever flash i do? Or i should contact t-mobile and ask - pray for an unock code?
4. Do you believe if its wise to wait a bit for the new international model i9305 and sell my t999? Or stay like it?
5. The guy who from i bought that handset was the 2nd owner (weird) and he is trying to get me the receipt for service reasons. Is there a way to ask for the warranty f i dont get that receipt?
I am not sure what to do or what to expect. I am making a small invest here and since i am always keepng my mobiles for 2-3 years at least.... i need any kind of information that can be usefull.
I will appreciate any kind of help.
Thank you all in advance and forgive my poor English.
Regards

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Any help guys?

The tmobile roms will not work on any other device unless stated. I don't think tmobile will hand you an unlock code so I wouldn't expect that.
Speed wise you won't noticed a difference between the international version and us one for day to day use.
If you root it then you can uninstal any apps you don't want.
As for language you might not have much luck with foreign language with a us model.
Edit: I could be wrong, With unlocking the carrier, it should stay no matter what tmobile rom you flash.
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1. Probably not much difference. Intnl has faster processor but US version has more ram. They are both likely fast enough for just about anyone.
2. No on Greek language. Plenty of roms and development and getting better still. Yes there's lots of bloatware to remove once you root.
3. Not sure. Its been asked a few times and no one has ever said they lost unlock status from rooting and flashing. I'd be surprised if it did, but I can't be sure.
4. No idea. Judging by #5 if you can recoup all your money it might be a good idea. As far as how much better the 9305 is, I have no idea.
5. Its been owned by 2 people before you? And its never been opened? Yeah it sounds weird. I wouldn't buy that personally. Too much risk. Lots of people get scammed from deals that start that way. Here in USA if the original owner bought it on a payment plan then sold it without fully paying for it T-Mobile would block all service to the phone. So the new buyer would be out a ton of money and have a pretty Samsung version of an iPod.
Not sure about warranty.
Couple things...I don't know how much twice as much is there, but you should be able to get an i9300 for pretty close to the same price as the T999 here. (Another reason I wonder about your purchase). If you found the T999 over here you should be able to find the other as well. Am I guessing right that you got 'a really good deal' on eBay or something like that? Be careful.
Tip: in the future try to slim you post down a bit. You had 5 points with multiple questions in each. That's a lot of asking which requires a lot of answering. I speak only for myself but I generally skip posts this long until later. I'm quite certain most people would open the thread an close it before finishing #3. (In case your wondering why you haven't got an answer yet.)
Just trying to help so don't take anything the wrong way. It just gets to be tedious, difficult and unenjoyable when there is so many questions all at once. (It took about the same time to answer you as it would to answer 5 or 6 others)
Good luck!
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DocHoliday77 said:
1. Probably not much difference. Intnl has faster processor but US version has more ram. They are both likely fast enough for just about anyone.
2. No on Greek language. Plenty of roms and development and getting better still. Yes there's lots of bloatware to remove once you root.
3. Not sure. Its been asked a few times and no one has ever said they lost unlock status from rooting and flashing. I'd be surprised if it did, but I can't be sure.
4. No idea. Judging by #5 if you can recoup all your money it might be a good idea. As far as how much better the 9305 is, I have no idea.
5. Its been owned by 2 people before you? And its never been opened? Yeah it sounds weird. I wouldn't buy that personally. Too much risk. Lots of people get scammed from deals that start that way. Here in USA if the original owner bought it on a payment plan then sold it without fully paying for it T-Mobile would block all service to the phone. So the new buyer would be out a ton of money and have a pretty Samsung version of an iPod.
Not sure about warranty.
Couple things...I don't know how much twice as much is there, but you should be able to get an i9300 for pretty close to the same price as the T999 here. (Another reason I wonder about your purchase). If you found the T999 over here you should be able to find the other as well. Am I guessing right that you got 'a really good deal' on eBay or something like that? Be careful.
Tip: in the future try to slim you post down a bit. You had 5 points with multiple questions in each. That's a lot of asking which requires a lot of answering. I speak only for myself but I generally skip posts this long until later. I'm quite certain most people would open the thread an close it before finishing #3. (In case your wondering why you haven't got an answer yet.)
Just trying to help so don't take anything the wrong way. It just gets to be tedious, difficult and unenjoyable when there is so many questions all at once. (It took about the same time to answer you as it would to answer 5 or 6 others)
Good luck!
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Thank you both for your answers - opinions.
Well to be honest my cousin is coming from NY tomorrow so i wouldnt pay extra shipping costs + country taxes. Price wasnt bad i believe 510$ even tho i knew that there were better prices but i didnt had much time for extra search. That ebay guy had very good rep but i never thought to ask if he was the 1st owner since the box was sealed. When i did asked him was 2 late. As for the differences between the two models... i learned about the different cores when was 2 late as well. I always thought that they had same core but us models had more ram. Language isnt such a problem tho.
As for my many questions. You are absolutely right. But since my cousin is flying tomorrow i was thinking if i should let him bring it with him or if i should better askk him to keep it until i sell it at ebay. Thats why all these questions. Nowdays isnt the best period for bad investments... especially in Greece...
Thanks again.

Leoniums said:
Thank you both for your answers - opinions.
Well to be honest my cousin is coming from NY tomorrow so i wouldnt pay extra shipping costs + country taxes. Price wasnt bad i believe 510$ even tho i knew that there were better prices but i didnt had much time for extra search. That ebay guy had very good rep but i never thought to ask if he was the 1st owner since the box was sealed. When i did asked him was 2 late. As for the differences between the two models... i learned about the different cores when was 2 late as well. I always thought that they had same core but us models had more ram. Language isnt such a problem tho.
As for my many questions. You are absolutely right. But since my cousin is flying tomorrow i was thinking if i should let him bring it with him or if i should better askk him to keep it until i sell it at ebay. Thats why all these questions. Nowdays isnt the best period for bad investments... especially in Greece...
Thanks again.
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Yeah, I know sometimes there isnt enough time. Hope I was able to help you at least a little.
Was just thinking though, if you dont have or dont use tmobile over there, unlocking the phone for another carrier should bypass any potential problems with tmobile blocking it if that were the case. Also, if you are not currently a tmobile customer and using the phone on their network, they will not give you the unlock code, or so im told anyway.
$510 seems reasonable. Id have been more worried if it was $300! Still an odd situation with that though.
Only other thing I would really check on if I were you is to make sure your carrier supports the correct bands for the phone to function on their network.
It is a great phone and we have great devs. This forum is awesome too, have some great people here.
So if you keep it I guess we'll see you again!
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DocHoliday77 said:
Yeah, I know sometimes there isnt enough time. Hope I was able to help you at least a little.
Was just thinking though, if you dont have or dont use tmobile over there, unlocking the phone for another carrier should bypass any potential problems with tmobile blocking it if that were the case.
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Unlocking that phone it seems easy from i have read until now. After all since it has never been switched on probably it wont be locked etc. Of course i am not going to use t-mobile here.
DocHoliday77 said:
Only other thing I would really check on if I were you is to make sure your carrier supports the correct bands for the phone to function on their network.
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Well i have done that and everything seems ok.
DocHoliday77 said:
It is a great phone and we have great devs. This forum is awesome too, have some great people here.
So if you keep it I guess we'll see you again!
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Of course you will I know about this forum for a ''while'' but i wasnt posting a lot though. I always read read read
I have done tones of modifications on my curent i9000
As for the devs you wont find better devs anywhere else... for sure !!!
Thanks again.

My classmates from Frances with 2 international versions and test against mine. It's really about the same. Sometimes mine is faster because I am on Jelly Beans and my ROM is super lean. International version chip may not support T-mobile band especially 4G so beware - 1700mhz.
My US phone is very responsive to all operation. The 4cores is better than bigger RAM but they only give you micro seconds faster in daily usage so it really don't worth the trouble.

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Really want to get one of these...but hardware problems scare me

Ok so I'm sick and tired of dealing with sprint's pathetic excuse for "3g" speeds. And using 3 year old phone technology (lg optimus).
I've been a part of the android club since the G1 and my biggest gripe has always been the lack of hardware acceleration. Finally I thought, a phone that does this! But everyone is saying there are screen problems...and it's not as snappy as they wish it were.
Are the issues really as bad as some make it out to be? Or are these just people who like to complain for the sake of complaining? If I do order one what should I make sure to check...and how long do you have to send it back?
Really want to click the "order" button on google play...someone convince me!! I was waiting to see what the SGIII was going to be priced at...but I know it'll be way way more. I don't really like the idea of spending more than $400 on a phone.
Nobody can decide for you. If it doesn't work out, return it. You also have a 1-yr warranty for showstopping issues.
Every electronic device has potential issues. Mine has been flawless for months...and I'm not alone.
Regardless of what phone you order there is always the possibility of recieving a device with faulty hardware. In that case you can return it for a new one.
I can't really convince you either way. I love my Nexus, and haven't really had any issues with it. I'd definitely recommend it to anyone who asks. SGS3 could turn out to be great, but if you are looking to spend a little less and want something now I'd go for it.
ph0tios said:
Regardless of what phone you order there is always the possibility of recieving a device with faulty hardware. In that case you can return it for a new one.
I can't really convince you either way. I love my Nexus, and haven't really had any issues with it. I'd definitely recommend it to anyone who asks. SGS3 could turn out to be great, but if you are looking to spend a little less and want something now I'd go for it.
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I do want it! Not looking for someone to decide for me...just hoping the issues aren't as widespread as some say. Seems like almost every experience I've read people have had to send the phone back 2-3 times to get a good one.
Kinda crazy for something that's been in production for 6 months now no?
I like mine. You could go to a Verizon store and check the screen out. The biggest gripe people have is on a grey background on low brightness there can be a grainy appearance. Meh. Don't get it if you care but honestly I don't
I haven't had any other hardware issues.
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colonelcack said:
Ok so I'm sick and tired of dealing with sprint's pathetic excuse for "3g" speeds. And using 3 year old phone technology (lg optimus).
I've been a part of the android club since the G1 and my biggest gripe has always been the lack of hardware acceleration. Finally I thought, a phone that does this! But everyone is saying there are screen problems...and it's not as snappy as they wish it were.
Are the issues really as bad as some make it out to be? Or are these just people who like to complain for the sake of complaining? If I do order one what should I make sure to check...and how long do you have to send it back?
Really want to click the "order" button on google play...someone convince me!! I was waiting to see what the SGIII was going to be priced at...but I know it'll be way way more. I don't really like the idea of spending more than $400 on a phone.
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I highly doubt the Galaxy Nexus has any more or less hardware variability or faults than any other phone. People just like to complain, and the minority with issues are ALWAYS more vocal than the people who are happy.
martonikaj said:
I highly doubt the Galaxy Nexus has any more or less hardware variability or faults than any other phone. People just like to complain, and the minority with issues are ALWAYS more vocal than the people who are happy.
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Okay you convinced me
So what's the process for using this phone with tmobile's $30/month plan? I order it online and then take it into any walmart?
Yes, every phone does have it's faults, but the Galaxy Nexus' screen issues is very prominent in so many of these devices that it's ridiculous. And I can tell you firsthand that it is not just for the sake of complaining, a lot of these screens are terrible. I'm waiting on my 3rd Nexus to come in on Wednesday and hopefully there is nothing wrong with it. But I've read countless stories about how many people had to exchange their Nexus 7 or 8 times before they got 1 without problems. But I'm just informing from experience / reading.
Aside from the faulty screens I've gotten, I LOVE this phone. It's amazing and I would definitely recommend you to order this. If you do get 1 with a faulty screen simply exchange it. Everything about this phone is great and for me the Nexus line is the only way to go now.
Not even every phone but almost EVERY device that is made whether it is a radio, television, mouse, speakers, etc. There is a chance of defect. What matters the most is whether or not they will send you a replacement in a timely fashion without question.
colonelcack said:
Okay you convinced me
So what's the process for using this phone with tmobile's $30/month plan? I order it online and then take it into any walmart?
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Buy this: http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-phone/T-Mobile-Prepaid-SIM-Activation-Kit
When it arrives, activate it here: http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-activate
Put it in your phone.
DON'T go into a store. Its an "online only" plan. Call customer service if you need to port a number.
I strongly suggest that you read the Prepaid thread and specific $30 month thread before trying it out. There are some asterisks and fine print when it comes to prepaid. I personally am running this plan and love it. I just recommend you know what you're getting into before signing up.
martonikaj said:
Buy this: http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-phone/T-Mobile-Prepaid-SIM-Activation-Kit
When it arrives, activate it here: http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-activate
Put it in your phone.
DON'T go into a store. Its an "online only" plan. Call customer service if you need to port a number.
I strongly suggest that you read the Prepaid thread and specific $30 month thread before trying it out. There are some asterisks and fine print when it comes to prepaid. I personally am running this plan and love it. I just recommend you know what you're getting into before signing up.
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Thanks. I'm reading that thread now...but I've read several pages and don't see any hidden negatives...what fine print do you speak of? Besides the 100 minutes I don't see any issues...I mostly just want the data speeds! I know about the 5GB cap if that's what you mean...if not, please explain?
colonelcack said:
Okay you convinced me
So what's the process for using this phone with tmobile's $30/month plan? I order it online and then take it into any walmart?
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Remember the cdma version seems to have the problems while the GSM version really doesn't. So if you're going for T-Mobile then you don't have too much to worry about.
colonelcack said:
Thanks. I'm reading that thread now...but I've read several pages and don't see any hidden negatives...what fine print do you speak of? Besides the 100 minutes I don't see any issues...I mostly just want the data speeds! I know about the 5GB cap if that's what you mean...if not, please explain?
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You don't get roaming, you don't get good customer service, you don't get free nights/weekends/mobile to mobile minutes, your service shuts off on the 30th day of your service if you don't refill. Things like that.
That being said its still the best deal in wireless if you don't need many minutes. I mean I still use it . The pros heavily outweigh the cons.
martonikaj said:
You don't get roaming, you don't get good customer service, you don't get free nights/weekends/mobile to mobile minutes, your service shuts off on the 30th day of your service if you don't refill. Things like that.
That being said its still the best deal in wireless if you don't need many minutes. I mean I still use it . The pros heavily outweigh the cons.
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Ah yeah the usual stuff, nothing I'm not used to coming from Virgin Mobile
But thanks for the heads up.
Order placed!!! No going back now...hope I get a good one!
Good luck! Just got mine, no problems (Screen, popping speakers) so far.
My wife got jealous and is now bugging me to find her a good deal for a <4 inch phone on TMo
colonelcack said:
Order placed!!! No going back now...hope I get a good one!
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Congrats, you won't regret it, awesome device I'm one of the people that likes this phone. Best damn device I ever held in my hands, once you root it and start flashing (If you're into that), you'll see that the experience will be even better. Enjoy.
If you want you can also try getting the SIM at your local T-Mobile store, to avoid waiting for shipping(I'm sure you'll get the Gnex quicker), rep should give you one. I would anyway..
Thanks everyone. Do you guys use a case/screen protector on yours? Or just never let it out of your hands?
It has curved glass so do screen protectors work as well?
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Thanks everyone. Do you guys use a case/screen protector on yours? Or just never let it out of your hands?
It has curved glass so do screen protectors work as well?
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Personal preference really, there's a bunch of threads around with in depth info regarding SP's and Cases.
Wet apps will always have the best edge cover, but usually might have a minimal orange peel (not all cases). Dry apps on a good quality SP will be crystal clear but might not adhere all the way on edges. My 2cents with personal experience...
This is my layout...
http://www.amazon.com/Incipio-SA-Sa..._1_2?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1335845313&sr=1-2
http://xoskins.com/cell-phone-skin-...tector?zenid=ba77ed9ac693678356cf2b857e75a5dc
http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-IMAGE...LPT4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1335845447&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/Comply-Tx-100...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1335845479&sr=1-1
colonelcack said:
Thanks everyone. Do you guys use a case/screen protector on yours? Or just never let it out of your hands?
It has curved glass so do screen protectors work as well?
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I use a zagg screen protector and that's it. I feel the cases take away from it design too much. I bought my GSM gnex back in November from the UK (had it shipped international to the US) and I cannot complain about one thing. Screen has been perfect . This is absolutely the best android phone ive ever used by far. You will not regret your purchase in the least bit. Have fun with it, and welcome to the family!
Edit; also if you have any questions when you receive it, don't hesitate to ask or pm
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Thinking about buying... Please help :)

Okay, I'm currently rocking the HTC One S on Tmobile USA. I'm thinking about getting the SGSiii for the upgrade fee (~280USD). I have a few good reasons for wanting to switch, like this device having more memory (big one) and I like big devices.
I was wondering, would you guys recommend this device. More specifically, would you recommend it developer-wise (IE: good development / support. I hear this device has official CM10/10.1 support)? I know there must be other threads but they are buried and old . I should not wait for any other secret device to be released soon
Just one question as well, does this phone actually have sdcard support and does it work well with demanding tasks such as storing game files on teh SD?
Thanks for the help. Hope to be a good part of this community. PS: I know a few of your devs who used to have the One S
Closed Source Project said:
Okay, I'm currently rocking the HTC One S on Tmobile USA. I'm thinking about getting the SGSiii for the upgrade fee (~280USD). I have a few good reasons for wanting to switch, like this device having more memory (big one) and I like big devices.
I was wondering, would you guys recommend this device. More specifically, would you recommend it developer-wise (IE: good development / support. I hear this device has official CM10/10.1 support)? I know there must be other threads but they are buried and old . I should not wait for any other secret device to be released soon
Just one question as well, does this phone actually have sdcard support and does it work well with demanding tasks such as storing game files on teh SD?
Thanks for the help. Hope to be a good part of this community. PS: I know a few of your devs who used to have the One S
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If you can, hold off for a little more. The s3 is good but in about 3 months, the next s family will probably be announced. If you can hold of, if not, then shell for the note 2. If not possible, the s3 is a good device. I said note 2 because of the battery life and screen.
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One more thing, will I need a data plan on the line I am upgrading to get this device at tmo for contact extension price? Thanks again.
Closed Source Project said:
One more thing, will I need a data plan on the line I am upgrading to get this device at tmo for contact extension price? Thanks again.
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Correct me if I'm wrong fellow xda members -- you most likely will be required to add a data plan when signing a new contract or upgrading through t-mobile. I heard they took out the 200mb plan and now require people to get the 2gb at the very least.
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Correct me if I'm wrong fellow xda members -- you most likely will be required to add a data plan when signing a new contract or upgrading through t-mobile. I heard they took out the 200mb plan and now require people to get the 2gb at the very least.
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Optional for the value plan. Even if you initially have to get the 2gb plan you can always downgrade
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I know this is getting a bit off of XDA's immediate knowledge, but is it possible to modify (downgrade or delete) a data plan after extending the contract but before the contract expires? Thanks.
Closed Source Project said:
I know this is getting a bit off of XDA's immediate knowledge, but is it possible to modify (downgrade or delete) a data plan after extending the contract but before the contract expires? Thanks.
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Yes there is. When I first got my GS3, I ended up modifying my plan three or four times to get a certain plan that TMo laid out. You can do if online. Mine was all messed up in the first place because I got my phone at Walmart. I ended up going into my T-Mobile store and fixing it about a month later. Well when I did that, it did extend my contract another month. What's another month in two years anyway? *Shrugs*
To answer your OG question... Yes it is worth it. I've turned 3 people onto this device.
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Ive talked 5 ppl into getting this device at least... and none have complained. Its purely amazing. The S4 will be out in next 6 months though, but this phone gives me everything I need so I dont think I will be switching even when the s4 does drop. Normally I'd say wait, but I did NOT like the One S and quite frankly thr One S and the HTC Amaze are the 2 phones that turned me off of HTC. S3 is so much better. If u have the 280 to spare, i'd do it
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DO NOT buy the s3. Better phones are coming out in the next few months. Save your money.
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zencoran said:
DO NOT buy the s3. Better phones are coming out in the next few months. Save your money.
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lol, didnt u own an S3 too? better phone always come out soon or later, so yr suggestion failed.
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If I was you.. I would wait for the s4..Also 280 is too much, it was on sale for 99.99 not too long ago.
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Closed Source Project said:
Okay, I'm currently rocking the HTC One S on Tmobile USA. I'm thinking about getting the SGSiii for the upgrade fee (~280USD). I have a few good reasons for wanting to switch, like this device having more memory (big one) and I like big devices.
I was wondering, would you guys recommend this device. More specifically, would you recommend it developer-wise (IE: good development / support. I hear this device has official CM10/10.1 support)? I know there must be other threads but they are buried and old . I should not wait for any other secret device to be released soon
Just one question as well, does this phone actually have sdcard support and does it work well with demanding tasks such as storing game files on teh SD?
Thanks for the help. Hope to be a good part of this community. PS: I know a few of your devs who used to have the One S
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S3 supports SD card, I just bought mine 16G for about $15.
Overall, this device is worth to buy. Bigger screen, faster processing speed. and you can flash your own ROM, like MIUI or Paranoid.
Right now, i think it is the best (price, overall) one on the market.
280$ is quite expansive for an upgrade i suggest you to wait a little bit more till it gets cheaper and you wont regret it ...
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I would get it, I love mine. However, I strongly suggest you shop around first, a quick search could save you a lot of money. For example, Best Buy has the T-Mo S3 for $179.99 right now ($229.99 for the 32gb), and you may be able to find it even cheaper somewhere else.
Don't buy it from tmobile, its cheaper else where like at Walmart. Last time I checked the phone was around 80$ for upgrade . Also titanium grey will be available around January 4th.
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Would consider moving to one of their pre-paid plans if I was you.
You may save a lot by spending an extra bit on the phone compared to the lousy subsidising they're offering you while still having you pay raised on-contract rates.
I upgraded from a one s to a sgs3 and definitely prefer the sgs3 and am totally happy with it. If I were u I would consider the note 2, if it's not too big. The sgs4 Will be out in a couple months but that will be the international version that u will have to pay full price for. Plus it probably won't come to US carriers for a couple months after it drops...
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Get the sg3 for that $. i payed a lot more and its worth it.
Just jumping through some hoops...
Thank you guys so much for the help. I am acutally thinking of getting one on ebay so I don't have to worry about adding data to the line this device will be upgrading. I see some on there for about 400 USD.
Anyone have any tips for buying this T-Mo SGSiii on eBay? Anyone know a reliable site to check the IMEI to make sure it's not stolen lol? Thanks again.
One thing to consider is that T-Mobile is no longer subsidizing phones in 2013. How this will effect Wal-Mart's prices, only time will tell.
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Throwing in the towel. Who's with me?

I keep getting the Note 4 910a (3x) hoping that the locked down everything won't bother me. It does... a lot.
My 14 day return ends on 1/16/15. I ordered the n910c yesterday, and expect it to arrive 1/13/15 at the latest. I did quite a bit of research, and found that the N910c/f/t should, in theory, work on AT&T with no issues. They seem to have all of the bands required. T-Mobile refuses to sell me a phone without signing up with them, so it came down to c and f. For those who don't know, C and F are almost the same with the exception of c having Exynos, and f having snapdragon. I was surprised that the exynos seems to support AT&T LTE. Anyway, I chose the 910c, because the exynos chip is supposed to be faster, and use less battery, and was cheaper. Plus there is a glimmer of hope that 64 bit will be unlocked on it once lollipop is released on it. I will come back here, and let you guys know how the switch went once I get my phone.
For those of you who choose to stay behind, I hope that you gain root, but I doubt it will happen since all of the devs seem to have moved on.
"Egocentric", I love posts like these, no one cares if you stay or you go, you contribute nothing as far as development to the device, no one will morn you or the other people like you. Leave and don't fill up the device thread with crap like this. To anyone else thinking of posting an, 'I'm leaving, follow me or stay with an unrooted phone forever', do us all a favor and choke on your phone... This phone performs fantastically as is, we are also able to do non root related adjustments to help with battery and so on. Buy a tablet and flash that to scratch the itch. /rant
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"Egocentric", I love posts like these, no one cares if you stay or you go, you contribute nothing as far as development to the device, no one will morn you or the other people like you. Leave and don't fill up the device thread with crap like this. To anyone else thinking of posting an, 'I'm leaving, follow me or stay with an unrooted phone forever', do us all a favor and choke on your phone... This phone performs fantastically as is, we are also able to do non root related adjustments to help with battery and so on. Buy a tablet and flash that to scratch the itch. /rant
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thanitos said:
"Egocentric", I love posts like these, no one cares if you stay or you go, you contribute nothing as far as development to the device, no one will morn you or the other people like you. Leave and don't fill up the device thread with crap like this. To anyone else thinking of posting an, 'I'm leaving, follow me or stay with an unrooted phone forever', do us all a favor and choke on your phone... This phone performs fantastically as is, we are also able to do non root related adjustments to help with battery and so on. Buy a tablet and flash that to scratch the itch. /rant
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"Jerk". Do you think that talking to people like that will get you some sort of XDA cred? Last I checked, the General forum for 910A wasn't very full at all. If anything, a new thread should be welcomed. The point of this was to not only express my distaste for a locked device, but to help point others towards a more open device. That is why I mentioned more than just the device I chose. I actually listed the 3 that I believe to be fully compatible with AT&T's network. I won't be choking on my new phone, and suggesting I do so, only makes you sound butt hurt, cuz you couldn't afford to buy one outright. So why don't you do us all a favor, and stop making your obvious envy more obvious, and stop wasting space on my thread.
To anyone else; I'll still report back to confirm that the N910C does in fact work on AT&T. I noticed my 910A is picking up 17. So I can't confirm 4 until I find an area.
The troll will pursue until the end of time.....
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"Jerk". Do you think that talking to people like that will get you some sort of XDA cred? Last I checked, the General forum for 910A wasn't very full at all. If anything, a new thread should be welcomed. The point of this was to not only express my distaste for a locked device, but to help point others towards a more open device. That is why I mentioned more than just the device I chose. I actually listed the 3 that I believe to be fully compatible with AT&T's network. I won't be choking on my new phone, and suggesting I do so, only makes you sound butt hurt, cuz you couldn't afford to buy one outright. So why don't you do us all a favor, and stop making your obvious envy more obvious, and stop wasting space on my thread.
To anyone else; I'll still report back to confirm that the N910C does in fact work on AT&T. I noticed my 910A is picking up 17. So I can't confirm 4 until I find an area.
The troll will pursue until the end of time.....
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I, for one, am kind of interested to see whether the N910C is working with ATT or not. What software are you using to see the bands in use?
bleuiko said:
I, for one, am kind of interested to see whether the N910C is working with ATT or not. What software are you using to see the bands in use?
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"LTE Discovery". Like I said, though, I can probably confirm lte band 17, but not 4 unless someone knows where I can find band 4 coverage in the Jefferson City, Missouri area.
Why note just buy a tmo from swappa or eBay, I picked up a bnib tmo note 4 on Friday for 600 off ebay
Who cares if your leaving. We don't want whiners anyways. Bye bye.
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Kinda wanted the Exynos variant. 600 is an amazing deal, though.
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Not whining. Merely want to use my expensive property however i choose to. I see you went a different route. Good luck with that.
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Well if i had the money, i would just buy a 910T and be done with it.
I didn't even know there was such a restricted version of this phone.
So thank you for the thread, it was interesting to see a users perspective and I hope you manage to get the version you want.
Regards,
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Yeah, no one cares if you leave. This post is just showing how much of a spoiled, impatient consumer you are. Carry on.
I don't have a problem with this guy's thread, it is extremely frustrating and he wants a place to vent about it.
I am still on the fence. My original decision was to go with the Nexus 6, but the complaint list on reddit about the software and hardware of that phone have turned me off. I love AT&T and have been with them for a long time, but I am considering switching to the Sprint Note 4, they have a much better deal than AT&T anyways.
For now I am going to continue to hold off until March to see if the price drops because I still love the Note 2 and am not in a hurry to upgrade. Since I really would like to stay with AT&T I have disabled all of my favorite xposed mods and am pretty much running stock 4.4.2 DN3. I think I could live without root on the Note 4, aside from that stupid ass AT&T logo in the top left of the screen. Highly annoying.
I'd just get a bad imei tmobile, unlock and use on AT&T.
tyiphius said:
I'd just get a bad imei tmobile, unlock and use on AT&T.
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If only it were that easy.
Until I can confirm, I found another thread reporting success in Ohio. Not sure what band they're on, though. Click Here
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If only it were that easy.
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No? Read something that they share the same imei database. But I've read of people getting getting it to work =/
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No? Read something that they share the same imei database. But I've read of people getting getting it to work =/
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To my understanding, if the ESN is bad, it cannot be unlocked.
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To my understanding, if the ESN is bad, it cannot be unlocked.
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ESN and IMEI are different.
Once it's not used on the same network you should be able to do it.
So yes I can't get an unlock code via t-mobile but I can get it from an unlocking service online

Has root been achieved by anyone yet?

So. I'm sure everyone here is annoyed of this question. But I can't get a clear answer.
Has root been achieved yet on the AT&T Model?
It's obvious the bootloader isn't going to be unlocked anytime soon. But that doesn't necessarily mean we can't get root..
I've heard somewhere that Kingoroot works but I'm not sure on what version of android and if it actually does work.
I don't mind if I have to downgrade to like 4.4.4 or something, as long as I get root.
No root. Phone is more locked down than a capitol building after a bomb threat.
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This will be the last AT&T phone I buy. I have an old contract that has 2 year upgrades. They are refusing to upgrade and quickly offered to let me out of my unlimited data plan. If they won't subsidize the phone I have no reason to buy from them when unlocked devices can be purchased for the same price.
Agreed... since Note 4 is the only Note (to my knowledge) that is being used by the Federal government under contract, they have locked it down tight and permanent root will *never* be possible. I am personally waiting for the new Note (6 or 7 or whatever they want to call it) to come out, and hopefully the Feds will not pick it up, so we can root it.
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unacceptable
this is the last time i get hoodwinked by att, ive got 4 months left and then i can add the monthly payments for this piece of trash to my new *unlocked* phone budget
Ugh
Every thread, someone comes in and complains about how this will be their last ATT or Samsung phone because there is no root. If that's your decision, then that's fine, and I'm not against you (I'd honestly never buy one again too, but I can't afford +/-$800 international version phones and ATT has the best signal here in the country where I live), but there's no need in coming into threads and poluting them with the same comments over and over again. I mean, this thread is now off topic since the OP was only asking whether or not root was acheived. That's it.
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Ugh
Every thread, someone comes in and complains about how this will be their last ATT or Samsung phone because there is no root. If that's your decision, then that's fine, and I'm not against you (I'd honestly never buy one again too, but I can't afford +/-$800 international version phones and ATT has the best signal here in the country where I live), but there's no need in coming into threads and poluting them with the same comments over and over again. I mean, this thread is now off topic since the OP was only asking whether or not root was acheived. That's it.
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you cant afford to save up $800 (which by the way would get you an INCREADIBLE phone from anyone OTHER than samsung or apple) but you can afford to be on the hook, paying $18-32 PER month for the forseeable future? do you smoke or drink coffee? cause either of those is another $4-9 a day ($120-270 PER month)
and this is the first post i have made in almost 2 years, i came in to see if there was root for the Note 4, saw there wasnt and expressed my opinion, i dont know what communist country youre from but here in america thats kinda my right so go untwist your panties on someone else
I love how you immediately assume I'm from a communist country and then claim to be from America and hint at how it's better than my country... especially since I'm also from the US. So since my country is communist, are you saying that America is communist?!?!
I also love how you immediately took offense to my post and assumed that I was talking to you directly when I never quoted you, nor ANYONE directly. I never said anything like YOU are coming into these threads and posting the same stuff. What I said was that whenever someone makes a thread related to root, the thread immediately turns into a whine - fest of people complaining about how they'll never buy another ATT or Samsung phone again. The other thing I said was that because of the whine - fest that's starting up here, this thread is now going off topic from what the OP originally asked. His question has been answered and unless he has additional questions, this thread is done.
Finally, yeah, I do drink coffee. So what? What does a cup of frickin Folgers have to do with how much money I make and can afford to spend up front?
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you cant afford to save up $800 (which by the way would get you an INCREADIBLE phone from anyone OTHER than samsung or apple) but you can afford to be on the hook, paying $18-32 PER month for the forseeable future? do you smoke or drink coffee? cause either of those is another $4-9 a day ($120-270 PER month)
and this is the first post i have made in almost 2 years, i came in to see if there was root for the Note 4, saw there wasnt and expressed my opinion, i dont know what communist country youre from but here in america thats kinda my right so go untwist your panties on someone else
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Possible Note 10+ US snapdragon root???

No working root for note10+ US snapdragon in site you say??? A few months back @elliwigy with extreme syndicate release a working root method for the note 9 snapdragon, they did this by exploiting the combo files to bypass the locked boot-loader issue with newer US Samsung models. I was curious to see if this can also be achieved on the us note 10 plus. I have been working on that very problem but i seem to have hit a wall could use some fresh input. Is anybody else actively working on this if so I would like to team up and solve this problem....
yours in good code,
-C-Dubbenstein-
Would be nice when and if. Good luck. I picked up my vzw note 10plus on day 1 here in US. Never updated anything other than play store apps for in the event a root or maybe even a bootloader unlock would come to. Neither of which I'm holding my breath on. But I'm optimistic. These are strange times we live in so who knows.
Good luck nonetheless,
~SG
SomeGuy2008 said:
Would be nice when and if. Good luck. I picked up my vzw note 10plus on day 1 here in US. Never updated anything other than play store apps for in the event a root or maybe even a bootloader unlock would come to. Neither of which I'm holding my breath on. But I'm optimistic. These are strange times we live in so who knows.
Good luck nonetheless,
~SG
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Well I seen this morning there is an unlocking method for $150 just need to confirm if itll work for the + models also
see
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-20-ultra/how-to/root-note-20-ultra-version-t4165703
appears to cover n10 among few other
Anyone tried this rooting/ bootloader unlock method successfully on an SM-N976U Note 10+5G from Tmo?
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This reply.
This has enough red flags to be more red than "some country flag" itself.
"So basically I gotta send some random guy in Beijing $150.. wait a week, install some 3rd party utils to let him take over my (windows) computer.. and if anything goes wrong I'm out $150 and the only way to get ahold of them is Telegram?"
That's the reply quoted above.
Hmm...
a. send money to unknown person - no control whatsoever on tracing the money
b. wait for some time - no guarantee of getting an answer
c. install some 3rd party PC tools (or similar) which will allow that unknown person to control my computer - WHAT POSSIBLY COULD GO WRONG :silly:
d. if something goes wrong / unsuccessful result (which are quite possible) then ... - ugh, cuz why not, I've paid, right?
e. the only way to get in touch with that person is telegram - btw, on groups channels there's no encryption (afaik, but maybe I'm wrong)
What can I possible do with the 150$? What if I save some 20-30$ every month for 2 years and add the 150?
Some 630$ - 870$ of savings in 2 years, not bad, they may help in buying the next phone.
Oh yeah, and no root. Because 'Murica (and a few others) luv SD chips. And LagSung loves $$$.
my 0.02$ (or 2¢)
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This reply.
This has enough red flags to be more red than "some country flag" itself.
"So basically I gotta send some random guy in Beijing $150.. wait a week, install some 3rd party utils to let him take over my (windows) computer.. and if anything goes wrong I'm out $150 and the only way to get ahold of them is Telegram?"
That's the reply quoted above.
Hmm...
a. send money to unknown person - no control whatsoever on tracing the money
b. wait for some time - no guarantee of getting an answer
c. install some 3rd party PC tools (or similar) which will allow that unknown person to control my computer - WHAT POSSIBLY COULD GO WRONG :silly:
d. if something goes wrong / unsuccessful result (which are quite possible) then ... - ugh, cuz why not, I've paid, right?
e. the only way to get in touch with that person is telegram - btw, on groups channels there's no encryption (afaik, but maybe I'm wrong)
What can I possible do with the 150$? What if I save some 20-30$ every month for 2 years and add the 150?
Some 630$ - 870$ of savings in 2 years, not bad, they may help in buying the next phone.
Oh yeah, and no root. Because 'Murica (and a few others) luv SD chips. And LagSung loves $$$.
my 0.02$ (or 2¢)
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Then don't do it. I know the guys too. And they are legit. So it's no one loss but your own. I wouldn't hesitate. Next time you want root or such buy a device that can be out the door
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Then don't do it. I know the guys too. And they are legit. So it's no one loss but your own. I wouldn't hesitate. Next time you want root or such buy a device that can be out the door
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I did not say that they are not legit nor that I have something against them.
My point is that the variables on this endeavor are complex and thin, not so much transparency.
I do own an 975F, so I don't loose anything.
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I did not say that they are not legit nor that I have something against them.
My point is that the variables on this endeavor are complex and thin, not so much transparency.
I do own an 975F, so I don't loose anything.
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Right now it's the only way to get the eng tokens based of the did of your device. I just see so many people talking crap. That they'll end up closing up shop and screw the rest of us in the future when we need em. Where all know about us locked bootloader since the s5 s6. By now most people should know this and buy unlockable bootloader devices. I'm in the US. Have had severL unlocked snap. And currently running a note 10 exy
w41ru5 said:
This reply.
This has enough red flags to be more red than "some country flag" itself.
"So basically I gotta send some random guy in Beijing $150.. wait a week, install some 3rd party utils to let him take over my (windows) computer.. and if anything goes wrong I'm out $150 and the only way to get ahold of them is Telegram?"
That's the reply quoted above.
Hmm...
a. send money to unknown person - no control whatsoever on tracing the money
b. wait for some time - no guarantee of getting an answer
c. install some 3rd party PC tools (or similar) which will allow that unknown person to control my computer - WHAT POSSIBLY COULD GO WRONG :silly:
d. if something goes wrong / unsuccessful result (which are quite possible) then ... - ugh, cuz why not, I've paid, right?
e. the only way to get in touch with that person is telegram - btw, on groups channels there's no encryption (afaik, but maybe I'm wrong)
What can I possible do with the 150$? What if I save some 20-30$ every month for 2 years and add the 150?
Some 630$ - 870$ of savings in 2 years, not bad, they may help in buying the next phone.
Oh yeah, and no root. Because 'Murica (and a few others) luv SD chips. And LagSung loves $$$.
my 0.02$ (or 2¢)
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so the reply you quoted is someone who is paranoid or mad that its not "free".. most good things in life are not free..
a. I am known very much so in the community and have been around a decade or so.. have been only dev really providing root (for free) on xda since the s8 and posted many other dev projects overthe years before that
b. I respond as soon as physically possible so u will get a reply. also to add im not shady at all, in fact theres a plethora of notes which users must read everything before theyre even able to send anything.
c. usb redirector is a very common tool that most legit services use for various things such as sim unlocks, frp bypasses or w.e other services are out there in the world. it also DOES NOT allow full control of ur computer lmao.. it only allows them to see the device plugged into usb which is what allows remote services to be dont.. u basically plug device in and with usb redirector itll appear as if its plugged in to the remote computer so they can unlock the device.
d. if something goes wrong bcuz the user didnt read all the notes, provided wrong did or something after repeated warnings, notes, having them triple check then thats their own fault. If it is an issue with the service then a refund is given. This is common practice. If you go to an antique store and break something chances are u will have to pay for it, same concept.
e. theres multiple ways. chat, xda, email, pymbt is done in venmo usually so u also have access to personal facebook account if need be. Encryption for chat isnt really necessary.. im sure real hackers have more important things to do then try and somehow steal a random chat for a did they cant do anything with anyways lol
its also not 150.. only flip 2 is 150 which very few ppl have anyways.. but i do agree, you can do a lot with 150 and of course saving money over two years is a good idea lol
and absolutely, we luv sd chips bcuz its consistently superior than exynos as well as exynos doesnt have good functionallity on usa networks.. why buy a exynos if ur in usa and not have any carrier features or 5g etc?
thats just my 2 cents lol
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so the reply you quoted is someone who is paranoid or mad that its not "free".. most good things in life are not free..
a. I am known very much so in the community and have been around a decade or so.. have been only dev really providing root (for free) on xda since the s8 and posted many other dev projects overthe years before that
b. I respond as soon as physically possible so u will get a reply. also to add im not shady at all, in fact theres a plethora of notes which users must read everything before theyre even able to send anything.
c. usb redirector is a very common tool that most legit services use for various things such as sim unlocks, frp bypasses or w.e other services are out there in the world. it also DOES NOT allow full control of ur computer lmao.. it only allows them to see the device plugged into usb which is what allows remote services to be dont.. u basically plug device in and with usb redirector itll appear as if its plugged in to the remote computer so they can unlock the device.
d. if something goes wrong bcuz the user didnt read all the notes, provided wrong did or something after repeated warnings, notes, having them triple check then thats their own fault. If it is an issue with the service then a refund is given. This is common practice. If you go to an antique store and break something chances are u will have to pay for it, same concept.
e. theres multiple ways. chat, xda, email, pymbt is done in venmo usually so u also have access to personal facebook account if need be. Encryption for chat isnt really necessary.. im sure real hackers have more important things to do then try and somehow steal a random chat for a did they cant do anything with anyways lol
its also not 150.. only flip 2 is 150 which very few ppl have anyways.. but i do agree, you can do a lot with 150 and of course saving money over two years is a good idea lol
and absolutely, we luv sd chips bcuz its consistently superior than exynos as well as exynos doesnt have good functionallity on usa networks.. why buy a exynos if ur in usa and not have any carrier features or 5g etc?
thats just my 2 cents lol
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I must apologize for the fact that I didn't know that you are the person dealing with this root possibility. I know the type of your work, but didn't think it can be also a different one too.
I also have great respect for you, so again, I'm sorry.
I understood that it was a completely other unknown person related to this situation. My ignorant answer(s) were based on that.
To be more clear, I do not live in US and can't buy an US SD with similar carrier conditions. I have access to Exynos as purchase and warranty. I'm satisfied with it.
It is totally my fault being to superficial in getting the correct (somehow an interesting/challenging one) context of this talk.
Therefore I apologize again.
Best regards.
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I must apologize for the fact that I didn't know that you are the person dealing with this root possibility. I know the type of your work, but didn't think it can be also a different one too.
I also have great respect for you, so again, I'm sorry.
I understood that it was a completely other unknown person related to this situation. My ignorant answer(s) were based on that.
To be more clear, I do not live in US and can't buy an US SD with similar carrier conditions. I have access to Exynos as purchase and warranty. I'm satisfied with it.
It is totally my fault being to superficial in getting the correct (somehow an interesting/challenging one) context of this talk.
Therefore I apologize again.
Best regards.
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lol no need to apologize.. just as someone else stated a "paid" service or even unlock in general for some reason ppl have a hard time believing but with everything else theres always goimg to be a few out there that will be quick to downplay it.
Of course some points/concerns im sure are very real to some ppl and paid services are frowned upon on xda for valid reasons with one being some ppl will be triggered and unfortunately sometimes post innapropriately lol
i dont really talk about it much for obvious reasons
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lol no need to apologize.. just as someone else stated a "paid" service or even unlock in general for some reason ppl have a hard time believing but with everything else theres always goimg to be a few out there that will be quick to downplay it.
Of course some points/concerns im sure are very real to some ppl and paid services are frowned upon on xda for valid reasons with one being some ppl will be triggered and unfortunately sometimes post innapropriately lol
i dont really talk about it much for obvious reasons
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So you trust the method to get the note 10+ snapdragon rooted? Do you or does anyone know anyone who has done it thats given feedback besides Mad Scientist saying he knows them? What would you say is the best option of a note 10+/model number that can be rooted?
A non related question, is there a recommended carrier unlock company you'd recommend, i use a tmobile note 10+. Is unlockriver legit?
Lol
dominick_7 said:
So you trust the method to get the note 10+ snapdragon rooted? Do you or does anyone know anyone who has done it thats given feedback besides Mad Scientist saying he knows them? What would you say is the best option of a note 10+/model number that can be rooted?
A non related question, is there a recommended carrier unlock company you'd recommend, i use a tmobile note 10+. Is unlockriver legit?
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if u can find the group then yes, theres many that will vouch
most people should know this and buy unlockable bootloader devices. I'm in the US. Have had severL unlocked snap. And currently running a note 10 exy
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Well I seen this morning there is an unlocking method for $150 just need to confirm if itll work for the + models also
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Looking for more info, contact me please
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Looking for more info, contact me please
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Hard to search and read?
instruction for noobs
TheMadScientist said:
Right now it's the only way to get the eng tokens based of the did of your device. I just see so many people talking crap. That they'll end up closing up shop and screw the rest of us in the future when we need em. Where all know about us locked bootloader since the s5 s6. By now most people should know this and buy unlockable bootloader devices. I'm in the US. Have had severL unlocked snap. And currently running a note 10 exy
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thats insane! for that much i could buy an octoplus with a years license and then charge everyone visiting these threads $20 to bootloader and/or sim unlock their devices. whats the incentive to use that kind of service. ive never even heard of a remote frp fix for more than $30.
mityakaramazov1866 said:
thats insane! for that much i could buy an octoplus with a years license and then charge everyone visiting these threads $20 to bootloader and/or sim unlock their devices. whats the incentive to use that kind of service. ive never even heard of a remote frp fix for more than $30.
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Well then do it

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