I personally like cwm but the newest version has bugs so i switched to twrp but i found some sites that the 2.1 version can hard brick your phone...so im wondering if twrp 2.2 is reliable?
ClaireH said:
I personally like cwm but the newest version has bugs so i switched to twrp but i found some sites that the 2.1 version can hard brick your phone...so im wondering if twrp 2.2 is reliable?
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I've been using TWRP 2.2 since it came out and have never had any problems with it. I was having problems with CWM and since I switched I have yet to have any complaints.
Give it a shot and let us know.
Is your question which one is more reliable which i think is more of a personal thing depending on your needs or loyalties where as is TWRP 2.2 reliable. Now I am not sure where and what circumstances 2.1 TWRP may have bricked a phone but since we are running 2.2 there is nothing to worry about. For as long as it has been out if there were any issues you would of heard of them by now. Try them both and you figure out which one better suits your needs
I used to use CWRM ( tried the latest touch and non-touch ) because I was familiar with it and the brick reports scared me, but I used to have a lot of issues after flashing ROMs and restoring texts, even though I did everything right.
Finally said screw it, and tried TWRP 2.2 - my issues are now mostly gone. And queuing up zips and a file manager are niice. So yea, my vote's on TWRP.
Russian smashed across the interwebz from my Galaxy SII.
The reason people were getting bricked on older versions of TWRP is due to user error. Once you wiped the system and ROM, the phone is "blank." People were then clicking the "reboot system" option without flashing a new ROM. As such, the phone couldn't boot. New version does not allow that option.
TWRP is the best in my opinion as it has several features like zip queueing (queue all of your zips at once ex: ROM, Gapps, etc...) and an onscreen keyboard for naming backups.
Only thing I don't like about TWRP is no "wipe battery stats". Other than that, TWRP is nifty but I still use darkside wipes out of habit from CWM.
Hype As Fruck said:
Only thing I don't like about TWRP is no "wipe battery stats". Other than that, TWRP is nifty but I still use darkside wipes out of habit from CWM.
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Per Google themselves, wiping battery stats is not necessary and does nothing. Any perceived benefit is purely placebo.
Rod3 said:
Per Google themselves, wiping battery stats is not necessary and does nothing. Any perceived benefit is purely placebo.
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Per darkside cache wipe... "wiping battery stats" and never had a battery reading issue.
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I put CWM on my phone because it's what came with the CM9.1 ROM that I originally flashed.
After switching to a different rom such as Jedi Knight or JMT9, I found TWRP 2 to work wonders for what I need and the way I want info to be displayed. I found that with the touchscreen functions it's much easier to navigate recovery, though CWM has touchscreen functions now as well.
I prefer TWRP. It wipes everything completely clean, no need to flash TDJ's superwipe. It is also more reliable than CWM imo.
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Alarmmy said:
I prefer TWRP. It wipes everything completely clean, no need to flash TDJ's superwipe. It is also more reliable than CWM imo.
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I was using CWM and switched to TWRP for this reason. No extra superwipe steps.
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Per darkside cache wipe... "wiping battery stats" and never had a battery reading issue.
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Cache wipe does not wipe battery stats, only cache and dalvick. Per if it helps you sleep at night, use CWM and wipe them.
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Per darkside cache wipe... "wiping battery stats" and never had a battery reading issue.
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I think that was put in place to keep people from asking for it, as well as for completeness.
It does nothing on our phone. Fact
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Dougshell said:
I think that was put in place to keep people from asking for it, as well as for completeness.
It does nothing on our phone. Fact
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I know they say wiping battery stats does nothing but so many swear by it that at this stage you might as well let them just go for it.
OP - It looks like TWRP has won in your poll, now that you have asked the question what will you do with this info?
I've tried both... never really had issues... One thing Im finding is that alot of MMS/SMS/Call Log etc. recovery tools will not work with a CWM 6 nandroid backup... Managed to get them out with Titanium Backup though, so not a problem
After switching from CWM, I've never had an issue with TWRP 2.2 so far.
But, if you decide to use CWM, I'd like to suggest: CWM 5.0.27non-touch + Darkside scripts.
TWRP is preferred
I use TWRP because of the UI and reliability. Never had an issue with it.
In some threads, OP request that you use a certain recovery whether its CWM (certain version) or TWRP so I usually keep different recoveries saved to my sd card just in case.
Plus TWRP looks better.
Go with TWRP, you will be for sure to not need those Darkside Wipes. (Reliable)
on CWM you may have to use them, depending on version (Questionable)
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Trying to get to the bottom of my kernel issues and I just noticed that instead of getting a # in adb, I get a /#. Anyone know what that means?
I'm guessing you're using netarchy kernel and bash. RTFM on custom shell prompts.
I'm using KingX and I don't know what bash is. Anyway, I just tried adb again and it's back to a #, so that's a non issue now. I still can't figure out why I can't flash ANY of the new kernels without causing a bootloop. KingX 7 and 8, netarchy 4.1.9.1 or any of the 8.x snap kernels, none of them work. I can flash older ones without issue (kingx #4, #6, netarchy 4.1.8, snap 7.11). Nobody else seems to have this issue, is it possible I screwed up my Evo?
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I'm using KingX and I don't know what bash is. Anyway, I just tried adb again and it's back to a #, so that's a non issue now. I still can't figure out why I can't flash ANY of the new kernels without causing a bootloop. KingX 7 and 8, netarchy 4.1.9.1 or any of the 8.x snap kernels, none of them work. I can flash older ones without issue (kingx #4, #6, netarchy 4.1.8, snap 7.11). Nobody else seems to have this issue, is it possible I screwed up my Evo?
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You'll need to wipe your phone. Data dalvik, cache.
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SharkUW said:
You'll need to wipe your phone. Data dalvik, cache.
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Done that about 50 times now :/
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Done that about 50 times now :/
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I've pretty much stayed away from the tricked out kernels because the instability scares me, but the few times I used one I noticed that sometimes my phone had to reboot two or three times before it booted and stayed on. Just a thought.
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Done that about 50 times now :/
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If you are running ClockworkMod, you need to wipe with amon-RA. they say ClockworkMod does not wipe completely.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6855542&postcount=1
illogic6 said:
I've pretty much stayed away from the tricked out kernels because the instability scares me, but the few times I used one I noticed that sometimes my phone had to reboot two or three times before it booted and stayed on. Just a thought.
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I've sat and watched it reboot 10 times in a row before I gave up and restored my nand.
If you are running ClockworkMod, you need to wipe with amon-RA. they say ClockworkMod does not wipe completely.
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I've done it multiple times with both. AmonRA is my preferred recovery.
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If you are running ClockworkMod, you need to wipe with amon-RA. they say ClockworkMod does not wipe completely.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6855542&postcount=1
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Afaik clockwork has always wiped ok. I think there were a lot or still are people confused by dalvik being in a separate menu. There are also people that will tell you to wipe twice. It's not a rubber eraser, it's a filesystem.
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Afaik clockwork has always wiped ok. I think there were a lot or still are people confused by dalvik being in a separate menu. There are also people that will tell you to wipe twice. It's not a rubber eraser, it's a filesystem.
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I had issues with it and several other people have and I know there were seperate menus. Just saying, it has been several people even ones that have been around awhile.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=758633
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763
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An important note for Clockwork mod Recovery users:
Clockwork Mod is reportedly not wiping correctly (ie; if you try to wipe cache/dalvik-cache/data/etc it's not actually doing it, or not doing it right)
You may want to consider using Amon Ra Recovery instead.
I how you know that your first link is all posts, at least as far as I read into, detailing the various levels of crazy required to believe that cm isn't wiping the dalvik cache. Did you read it or just the op?
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I how you know that your first link is all posts, at least as far as I read into, detailing the various levels of crazy required to believe that cm isn't wiping the dalvik cache. Did you read it or just the op?
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I read the posts. Some people are just having issues and some people are not. All I was stating is that CWM has been known to have a few issues and to try Amon RA to see if the problems get fixed. I used to have issues installing kernels with CWM. I used it through Rom manager because it made it easy. I ended up going to Amon RA because all the issues I had personally. I know Amon RA has been reducing the size because some people had bad blocks. Have you thought that maybe your phone doesnt and some people does causing the full recovery not to be there?
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I had issues with it and several other people have and I know there were seperate menus. Just saying, it has been several people even ones that have been around awhile.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=758633
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763
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An important note for Clockwork mod Recovery users:
Clockwork Mod is reportedly not wiping correctly (ie; if you try to wipe cache/dalvik-cache/data/etc it's not actually doing it, or not doing it right)
You may want to consider using Amon Ra Recovery instead.
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switching from rom to rom, i just do a full factory wipe, isn't that technically what dalvik is not doing in clockwork, i've had no issue's yet by doing this, even with some rom's i haven't done it and things have worked fine, but that's besides the point.
tomh1979 said:
switching from rom to rom, i just do a full factory wipe, isn't that technically what dalvik is not doing in clockwork, i've had no issue's yet by doing this, even with some rom's i haven't done it and things have worked fine, but that's besides the point.
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Yes, the general wiping instructions are very redundant. Dalvik is within cache which is why clockwork has it under a sub menu. You "wipe" dalvik 3x with factory reset, cache, dalvik. Some roms have dalvik under data by my understanding, in which case you've wiped it once.
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I want to stay with Amon RA, but update CM7 with the convenience of something like Rom Manager.
Anyway of updating CM7 without flashing CWM?
Flash it in amon RA? Just like any other rom
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Thanks for that...lol
I'm new to CM7, so I assumed that updating it with Rom Manager was as simple as doing an OTA...does it actually flash a new Rom with each update?
I'm kinda over setting up my home screens on a daily basis...
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Thanks for that...lol
I'm new to CM7, so I assumed that updating it with Rom Manager was as simple as doing an OTA...does it actually flash a new Rom with each update?
I'm kinda over setting up my home screens on a daily basis...
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Yea rom manager is just a GUI to get to recovery and honestly is pretty worthless on alot of phones, it causes more problems than its worth really. The old school manual way using amon RA or one of its variants is tried and true and always reliable. CWM on the Evo doesn't always wipe properly which leads to serious issues, I prefer to go down my wipe list and hit everything 3x on a clean install, and 1-2x for cache and dalvik for an upgrade where I dont need to wipe data etc, oh yeah just don't wipe your SDCARD option or it will be blank after and you better hope you got a backup on ur PC, I did that once when I was hungover and half asleep
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Yea rom manager is just a GUI to get to recovery and honestly is pretty worthless on alot of phones, it causes more problems than its worth really. The old school manual way using amon RA or one of its variants is tried and true and always reliable. CWM on the Evo doesn't always wipe properly which leads to serious issues, I prefer to go down my wipe list and hit everything 3x on a clean install, and 1-2x for cache and dalvik for an upgrade where I dont need to wipe data etc, oh yeah just don't wipe your SDCARD option or it will be blank after and you better hope you got a backup on ur PC, I did that once when I was hungover and half asleep
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I've been rooted for a little over a month, and I already got to deal with corrupt backups using CWM. Luckily, I had an Amon RA backup on a different SDCARD...needless to say it saved the day.
I haven't gone back to CWM since.
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I've been rooted for a little over a month, and I already got to deal with corrupt backups using CWM. Luckily, I had an Amon RA backup on a different SDCARD...needless to say it saved the day.
I haven't gone back to CWM since.
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Yea I had CWM for about a week until I had a rom install cause issues and when I went to restore my backup it was all fubar so I switched to amon RA and never looked back, especially after reading about alot of issues with cwm having the same problems as me back then, I decided it wasn't worth my hassle
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update?
i want to kmow is there an update to amon ra recovery
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Yea rom manager is just a GUI to get to recovery and honestly is pretty worthless on alot of phones, it causes more problems than its worth really. The old school manual way using amon RA or one of its variants is tried and true and always reliable. CWM on the Evo doesn't always wipe properly which leads to serious issues, I prefer to go down my wipe list and hit everything 3x on a clean install, and 1-2x for cache and dalvik for an upgrade where I dont need to wipe data etc, oh yeah just don't wipe your SDCARD option or it will be blank after and you better hope you got a backup on ur PC, I did that once when I was hungover and half asleep
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i wason CWM for almost a month since being rooted and ira noticed some issues that you mentioned and read a general concensus that Amon-ra is better so i have tried it and i really like it. though the Wipe option has A LOT more options then CWM did so what all do you wipe other then cache and davilk and when going to a new rom or big update user data to get the best results?? thanks still learning
-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Yea rom manager is just a GUI to get to recovery and honestly is pretty worthless on alot of phones, it causes more problems than its worth really. The old school manual way using amon RA or one of its variants is tried and true and always reliable. CWM on the Evo doesn't always wipe properly which leads to serious issues, I prefer to go down my wipe list and hit everything 3x on a clean install, and 1-2x for cache and dalvik for an upgrade where I dont need to wipe data etc, oh yeah just don't wipe your SDCARD option or it will be blank after and you better hope you got a backup on ur PC, I did that once when I was hungover and half asleep
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not to be weird or anything but i actually remember you mentioning in a thread somewhere that you were drunk and wiped your card on accident haha. that had to suck waking up the next day and realizing all your ****s gone haha.
TemplaPR said:
i want to kmow is there an update to amon ra recovery
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2.3 is the latest from Amon Ra, g though there is 3.11 that is an off shoot of his work.
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The ra 3.11 version is actually "the best of both worlds" of recoveries. Supports ra and cwm backups & edify and amend scripting. Fyi for those that don't know.
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The ra 3.11 version is actually "the best of both worlds" of recoveries. Supports ra and cwm backups & edify and amend scripting. Fyi for those that don't know.
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Can you use the Rom Manager features with it?
spyder3 said:
Can you use the Rom Manager features with it?
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What rom features do you need to use, that you can't use without rom manager?
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volk9029 said:
What rom features do you need to use, that you can't use without rom manager?
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Everything that Rom Toolbox says is blocked by Rom Manager.
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Everything that Rom Toolbox says is blocked by Rom Manager.
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Can you uninstall rom manager? Why do you need it?
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volk9029 said:
Can you uninstall rom manager? Why do you need it?
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You can uninstall it, but features like backup and restore are propriety of rm.
It's not a big deal, just something that was convenient. I've done without it for a little bit...there is a thread dedicated to this topic.
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Does any one here know if some of the Kernal cleanser zips from the s2 for TMO would work on the s3? If not are there any similar options?
Also is there a davlik wipe that works properly on the s3? Similar to the dark side zips. Cwm is not doing so correctly.
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Wildchld has a Superwipe script in the op of his xquizit thread. That's the closest thing I can think of for us right now, but it wipes everything.
Don't use any from another device. Depending how its written it could brick you.
Should be pretty easy to make it work for ours. Ill try to find it and see if I can't get it working for us.
Do you have a link to it?
Just curious, how is cwm not doing the job for you? Does it error or just seem to not work right?
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This is the link for superwipe for the Hercules
http://sourceforge.net/projects/darksidetools/files/SGH-T989_DARKSIDE.SUPER.WIPE_EXT4.zip/download
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Well not exactly what I was looking for but it will work for clean flashes. Thanks kind sir. This is from the same dev as the s2 so it's solid I am sure.
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DocHoliday77 said:
Wildchld has a Superwipe script in the op of his xquizit thread. That's the closest thing I can think of for us right now, but it wipes everything.
Don't use any from another device. Depending how its written it could brick you.
Should be pretty easy to make it work for ours. Ill try to find it and see if I can't get it working for us.
Do you have a link to it?
Just curious, how is cwm not doing the job for you? Does it error or just seem to not work right?
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It just seems not to work. It goes way to fast to seem to be working and throws the same extsd error as the s2 had done. How is twrp? Is it worth the try? I have heard many issue can occur with it.
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I have been using TWRP since I rooted my phone back in June, have not had 1 issue with it. Everything works flawlessly, I have flashed almost every AOKP, CM10, TW ICS & TW JB ROM out there thru TWRP and never lost my IMEI and the wipe functions in it work just fine. I usually wipe cache/delvik, system & factory reset 3 times. For me it seems to wipe pretty fast ( that's why I do it 3x ).Just to be safe.
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It just seems not to work. It goes way to fast to seem to be working and throws the same extsd error as the s2 had done. How is twrp? Is it worth the try? I have heard many issue can occur with it.
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Well isn't this normal since there is no external sd ext partition? I mean sure one could write a simple zip to delete /data/dalvik-cache.
And there really isn't a way to check it either. Cause I don't think adb works in recovery mode.
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The Dalvik wipe in CWM works fine. It's very fast (just a few files), and the "error message" can be safely ignored. It's more like an informative message, not an error message. If you don't think it worked, just reboot your phone, and you will see that it did, infact, work.
There are still people going on about IMEI loss with CWM. First of all, you should have backed up your IMEI with su > reboot nvbackup in a terminal emulator. When your IMEI is 0, what happened was your nvdata got corrupted, so the backups were restored. Problem is you didn't make a backup, so those partitions contained nothing but dummy data, instead of the nvdata they are supposed to contain. It's been theorized that this is a screw up at the factory level. Easily rectified.
Last I checked, no one has figured out why this corruption happens. Flashing a nightly flashes the kernel and copies system files. Which means it can happen with either CWM or TWRP. I suspect the disparity in user bases, combined with the rarity of the problem, is why you don't see people complaining about IMEI loss with TWRP.
Kernel cleanser? You don't need one. Just flash a new kernel, it will overwrite the old one (it's a partition).
What problems have you heard about with TWRP? My complaints are mostly nitpicks, and I'm biased. It works fine. Make sure you're always using the latest versions, though.
Aerowinder said:
The Dalvik wipe in CWM works fine. It's very fast (just a few files), and the "error message" can be safely ignored. It's more like an informative message, not an error message. If you don't think it worked, just reboot your phone, and you will see that it did, infact, work.
There are still people going on about IMEI loss with CWM. First of all, you should have backed up your IMEI with su > reboot nvbackup in a terminal emulator. When your IMEI is 0, what happened was your nvdata got corrupted, so the backups were restored. Problem is you didn't make a backup, so those partitions contained nothing but dummy data, instead of the nvdata they are supposed to contain. It's been theorized that this is a screw up at the factory level. Easily rectified.
Last I checked, no one has figured out why this corruption happens. Flashing a nightly flashes the kernel and copies system files. Which means it can happen with either CWM or TWRP. I suspect the disparity in user bases, combined with the rarity of the problem, is why you don't see people complaining about IMEI loss with TWRP.
Kernel cleanser? You don't need one. Just flash a new kernel, it will overwrite the old one (it's a partition).
What problems have you heard about with TWRP? My complaints are mostly nitpicks, and I'm biased. It works fine. Make sure you're always using the latest versions, though.
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Its actually not just a few files. Its quite some 60 megs depending how many apps you have installed
I made a dalvik cache wiper.
If you notice when you use CWM to clear dalvik cache, then reboot, it doesnt say android is upgrading at all. Making me think it doesnt work.
But when you just flash my script, it says its upgrading.
the zip is simple, all it does is delete_recursive("/data/dalvik-cache/") and thats it.
elesbb said:
Its actually not just a few files. Its quite some 60 megs depending how many apps you have installed
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Obviously, it was an exaggeration.
After your report on dalvik wipe not working, I was inclined to try it myself, since I always wipe cache+dalvik when flashing a new rom. Wiping just dalvik, I was greeted with the optimizing apps prompt on the next boot.
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Obviously, it was an exaggeration.
After your report on dalvik wipe not working, I was inclined to try it myself, since I always wipe cache+dalvik when flashing a new rom. Wiping just dalvik, I was greeted with the optimizing apps prompt on the next boot.
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So did i.. but it optimized the same amount of apps that the "wipe cache" option does. I seriously wonder now if they are one in the same. Like if they are coded to wipe /cache and /data/dalvik-cache. Cause when using my zip, i only optimize 58 apps.
Hi guys, so I was using wicked ROM, whenever I tried to boot into recovery, it just rebooted back to system. Odin'ed back to stock, flashed twrp through goo manager app, but still no use. Any help greatly appreciated
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eggydrums said:
Hi guys, so I was using wicked ROM, whenever I tried to boot into recovery, it just rebooted back to system. Odin'ed back to stock, flashed twrp through goo manager app, but still no use. Any help greatly appreciated
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What methods have you tried?
adb reboot recovery is the easiest way to get to recovery
Maybe try flashing CWM, seeing if that works, and then flashing TWRP (I've never flashed TWRP through Goo Manager so I don't know how that works)?
If you don't have adb set up, get quick boot from market and try recovery through that.
If that doesn't work, I honestly don't know. I'm assuming you've done the power off then volume up+home+power at the same time trick already.
EtherealRemnant said:
What methods have you tried?
adb reboot recovery is the easiest way to get to recovery
Maybe try flashing CWM, seeing if that works, and then flashing TWRP (I've never flashed TWRP through Goo Manager so I don't know how that works)?
If you don't have adb set up, get quick boot from market and try recovery through that.
If that doesn't work, I honestly don't know. I'm assuming you've done the power off then volume up+home+power at the same time trick already.
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With the goo app, I can boot directly into recovery, but my issue is that I get to the Recovery's splash screen, it hangs there for a second and immediately reboots back to system. I'm thinking to get the stock recovery back and try again I'm really not sure what the Hecks going on
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Mhm OK, got cwm working, guess I'll just use that one for the time being
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eggydrums said:
Mhm OK, got cwm working, guess I'll just use that one for the time being
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I would highly recommend putting TWRP back on there. The CWM was more for testing... people have reported issues using CWM with certain ROMs. Glad you were able to get CWM on though.
Nothing wrong with CWM.
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Nothing wrong with CWM.
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There are a number of ROMs that do not support CWM so that statement is false. FreeGS3 loses update functionality, for example.
Also, there have been complaints in the case of CWM touch of it being too easy to wipe your entire device.
Not to mention there is no Goo Manager functionality without TWRP as well.
Lots of benefits of TWRP versus CWM. I used CWM for years then had to switch to a modified TWRP for my MAXX and was more than happy when I found out the SGS3 used TWRP as well (although I wish we had the ROM slots like the MAXX though - that was actually cool)
The statement is not false. I think FreeGS3 hasn't been updated for 4.5 months? Maybe not the best example. And I still think you should use as few automated tools as possible where flashing is concerned (Goo/ROM Manager).
It can be easy to wipe the wrong partition in CWM, if you are careless or illiterate. In the 6 months that I've used it (nearly every day), I have never once wiped the wrong partition, or my entire device. Never had a backup that wouldn't restore.
I like some of what TWRP offers. But I still experience showstopping bugs with it on my device. At this time, the devs are unable to track down the cause of the problems.
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The statement is not false. I think FreeGS3 hasn't been updated for 4.5 months? Maybe not the best example. And I still think you should use as few automated tools as possible where flashing is concerned (Goo/ROM Manager).
It can be easy to wipe the wrong partition in CWM, if you are careless or illiterate. In the 6 months that I've used it (nearly every day), I have never once wiped the wrong partition, or my entire device. Never had a backup that wouldn't restore.
I like some of what TWRP offers. But I still experience showstopping bugs with it on my device. At this time, the devs are unable to track down the cause of the problems.
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Don't get me wrong, I've used CWM on many devices for years and even have a premium license for ROM Manager but I've seen a number of ROMs explicitly say not to use CWM, FreeGS3 was just the first that came to mind. I don't flash often because quite frankly, I have no problems with Wicked v8 and see no reason to switch to anything else.
And I am neither careless nor illiterate but I have accidentally borked things using CWM before in the past (it was a modified CWM Touch recovery) and I was not happy.
I think most of the complaints about CWM these days though come from CWM Touch, not regular CWM. Sorry TWRP has issues for you.
OK, so I'm getting a new issue, I changed to AOKP and I had problems with the ROM saying I needed to wipe data, I did, the issue persisted for few reboots, now apps won't install, and for some reason the /data folder still displays apps from my previous ROM ugh I don't know what's happening
Oh and for some reason the app exchange service kept force closing
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OK, so I'm getting a new issue, I changed to AOKP and I had problems with the ROM saying I needed to wipe data, I did, the issue persisted for few reboots, now apps won't install, and for some reason the /data folder still displays apps from my previous ROM ugh I don't know what's happening
Oh and for some reason the app exchange service kept force closing
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Which recovery? Try erasing data, cache, and system three times each and reinstalling the ROM... If that doesn't work you might consider doing a back up of everything internally stored on your phone and then wiping the internal storage entirely and starting over.
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Which recovery? Try erasing data, cache, and system three times each and reinstalling the ROM... If that doesn't work you might consider doing a back up of everything internally stored on your phone and then wiping the internal storage entirely and starting over.
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I tried. I think for some reason, the recovery isn't wiping data, even though it says so. I'm using twrp
Managed to install apps through the play website, still no go with the play store app though
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eggydrums said:
I tried. I think for some reason, the recovery isn't wiping data, even though it says so. I'm using twrp
Managed to install apps through the play website, still no go with the play store app though
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Hmmm... Have you tried doing it through CWM? Its starting to sound like your partitions are messed up.
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Hmmm... Have you tried doing it through CWM? Its starting to sound like your partitions are messed up.
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I think that's a possibility I just tried through clockwork, and it's all good now but exchange service fcs here and there
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eggydrums said:
I think that's a possibility I just tried through clockwork, and it's all good now but exchange service fcs here and there
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Did you fix permissions?
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Did you fix permissions?
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I tried while I was in twrp, it failed, something about a an error "failed to chmod data/data/ email.apk" (not exactly like that)
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Hi, So when I tried to open up twrp recovery, it wouldnt open....it would just stay at the logo and blink every now.and then....So I used oden and installed cwm over twrp and it was fine....I didnt like cwm so I went back to twrp..... it works fine and I can do everything EXCEPT some files are inaccessible and every time I flash something,it works but also gives me the error measages in the image I posted... does anyone know how to fix this?
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Hi, So when I tried to open up twrp recovery, it wouldnt open....it would just stay at the logo and blink every now.and then....So I used oden and installed cwm over twrp and it was fine....I didnt like cwm so I went back to twrp..... it works fine and I can do everything EXCEPT some files are inaccessible and every time I flash something,it works but also gives me the error measages in the image I posted... does anyone know how to fix this.
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Maybe try installing twrp from goo manager while connected to WiFi to ensure a good download
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I had the same exact problem a couple days ago. I fixed it by going Into goo manager and re flashing a new TWRP. I did it on Mobile Data, worked fine!
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Go back to 2.3.3.0. Search for the flashables ones. Since 2.4.2.1 TWRP have a lot of issues.
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I see a lot of people complaining about TWRP related issues with various versions of this recovery.
Is there any reason people don't talk about CWM around here? I've been using different versions of cwm touch and twrp ... And I'm honestly pretty happy with cwm.
Why does it appear that people avoid talking about cwm? ... If indeed it works as well as it seems to me that it does?
One reason is that a lot of people think it's better and recommend it to others. I used cwm on my old evo and was going to when I got my s3, but most people and roms were recommending twrp. I've been using it and have tried out cwm as well. For me, at least it hasn't been problematic, but I don't download them through the goo manager. As I feel like I have less control over what I'm getting (I don't even know what version I'm getting until after I download it). That, and I just don't trust the phone to download without errors even when on Wi-Fi.
Just my two cents.
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I just actually switched to cwm a couple days ago because twrp had been giving me backup and restore problems.. everything twrp can do cwm does also, and it seems to be faster backing up and restoring also, but that might just be placebo... devs recommend twrp because that is what their Rom/kernel/mod was tested with... 99% of the time cwm will work just fine also
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It might be that people are ignorant about cwm just like people are about androids
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razzack3000 said:
It might be that people are ignorant about cwm just like people are about androids
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Actually, having used both, I think TWRP had been the better of the two because of the ease of naming your nandroids and the fact that backups in TWRP don't take up so much space as the CWM backups do. Have you seem the crazy Blobs folder in CWM? I like backing stuff up to the PC, but the CWM backups made that process extremely painful. I don't know what happened to make TWRP so unreliable recently, but I just noticed a newer version is out: 2.5.0.0
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DurhamHusker said:
I see a lot of people complaining about TWRP related issues with various versions of this recovery.
Is there any reason people don't talk about CWM around here? I've been using different versions of cwm touch and twrp ... And I'm honestly pretty happy with cwm.
Why does it appear that people avoid talking about cwm? ... If indeed it works as well as it seems to me that it does?
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There's nothing bad about CWM, but is 2013 and you can't rename your nands which is very important(not necesary) in a phone which date as 1970. Also the touch version looks like a '90 recovery.
But if you want a issues free TWRP go back to 2.3.3.0.
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I did that... Now it only recognizes my ext sd card and the 0 folder in my internal storage that I clear out a while ago
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One reason is that a lot of people think it's better and recommend it to others. I used cwm on my old evo and was going to when I got my s3, but most people and roms were recommending twrp. I've been using it and have tried out cwm as well. For me, at least it hasn't been problematic, but I don't download them through the goo manager. As I feel like I have less control over what I'm getting (I don't even know what version I'm getting until after I download it). That, and I just don't trust the phone to download without errors even when on Wi-Fi.
Just my two cents.
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If you update from goo manager, a pop up will tell you what version you are about to install beforehand. Also the webpage that it takes you to in order to start the auto download also states the name of the .IMG which also indicates version. I know what you mean about trusting downloads from the phone though. I personally think that is the reason a lot of people have issues with twrp. I've always updated to the latest twrp and flash almost daily, but have never had to switch versions because of bugs. All versions have ran perfect for me.
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It might be that people are ignorant about cwm just like people are about androids
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I've used both for quite a while. I used to only use cwm for the longest but decided to try out twrp because of those ridiculous blobs! What's with that? So I decided to try twrp and I've stayed because of all the little features like a warnings before you wipe things you shouldn't, option to flash more than one zip at once, option to clear cache and dalvik right after flashing, etc... Plus there are some pretty major features that get overlooked. Like the built in file browser. I installed miui once and it created a folder I could not delete and keep deleted. Every time I would reboot, it would come back. Twrp file browser deleted it and kept it deleted. The only thing I don't like about twrp is the system date and time being way off.
Edit: Lol. I've edited like 5 times because I keep wanting to add more info. Also, twrp doesn't take ages to fix permissions. As long as cwm takes, I can just do it manually
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I've been on 2.4.0 and 2.4.4, and only had to do backups but haven't tried to restore yet, so after hearing all the war stories, I went back to 2.3.1.
UPDATE: I just upgraded from 2.3.1 to 2.5.0, performed wipes, a backup and a restore and all went perfectly smooth. The only issue was the time was 2 hours behind what it should have been for US central, so I selected 2 hours ahead and chose military time (my preference) and I'm happy.
Where did you get 2.5.5?i only found 2.5.0
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oops, I mean't 2.5.0