Does any one here know if some of the Kernal cleanser zips from the s2 for TMO would work on the s3? If not are there any similar options?
Also is there a davlik wipe that works properly on the s3? Similar to the dark side zips. Cwm is not doing so correctly.
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Wildchld has a Superwipe script in the op of his xquizit thread. That's the closest thing I can think of for us right now, but it wipes everything.
Don't use any from another device. Depending how its written it could brick you.
Should be pretty easy to make it work for ours. Ill try to find it and see if I can't get it working for us.
Do you have a link to it?
Just curious, how is cwm not doing the job for you? Does it error or just seem to not work right?
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This is the link for superwipe for the Hercules
http://sourceforge.net/projects/darksidetools/files/SGH-T989_DARKSIDE.SUPER.WIPE_EXT4.zip/download
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Well not exactly what I was looking for but it will work for clean flashes. Thanks kind sir. This is from the same dev as the s2 so it's solid I am sure.
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Wildchld has a Superwipe script in the op of his xquizit thread. That's the closest thing I can think of for us right now, but it wipes everything.
Don't use any from another device. Depending how its written it could brick you.
Should be pretty easy to make it work for ours. Ill try to find it and see if I can't get it working for us.
Do you have a link to it?
Just curious, how is cwm not doing the job for you? Does it error or just seem to not work right?
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It just seems not to work. It goes way to fast to seem to be working and throws the same extsd error as the s2 had done. How is twrp? Is it worth the try? I have heard many issue can occur with it.
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I have been using TWRP since I rooted my phone back in June, have not had 1 issue with it. Everything works flawlessly, I have flashed almost every AOKP, CM10, TW ICS & TW JB ROM out there thru TWRP and never lost my IMEI and the wipe functions in it work just fine. I usually wipe cache/delvik, system & factory reset 3 times. For me it seems to wipe pretty fast ( that's why I do it 3x ).Just to be safe.
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It just seems not to work. It goes way to fast to seem to be working and throws the same extsd error as the s2 had done. How is twrp? Is it worth the try? I have heard many issue can occur with it.
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Well isn't this normal since there is no external sd ext partition? I mean sure one could write a simple zip to delete /data/dalvik-cache.
And there really isn't a way to check it either. Cause I don't think adb works in recovery mode.
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The Dalvik wipe in CWM works fine. It's very fast (just a few files), and the "error message" can be safely ignored. It's more like an informative message, not an error message. If you don't think it worked, just reboot your phone, and you will see that it did, infact, work.
There are still people going on about IMEI loss with CWM. First of all, you should have backed up your IMEI with su > reboot nvbackup in a terminal emulator. When your IMEI is 0, what happened was your nvdata got corrupted, so the backups were restored. Problem is you didn't make a backup, so those partitions contained nothing but dummy data, instead of the nvdata they are supposed to contain. It's been theorized that this is a screw up at the factory level. Easily rectified.
Last I checked, no one has figured out why this corruption happens. Flashing a nightly flashes the kernel and copies system files. Which means it can happen with either CWM or TWRP. I suspect the disparity in user bases, combined with the rarity of the problem, is why you don't see people complaining about IMEI loss with TWRP.
Kernel cleanser? You don't need one. Just flash a new kernel, it will overwrite the old one (it's a partition).
What problems have you heard about with TWRP? My complaints are mostly nitpicks, and I'm biased. It works fine. Make sure you're always using the latest versions, though.
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The Dalvik wipe in CWM works fine. It's very fast (just a few files), and the "error message" can be safely ignored. It's more like an informative message, not an error message. If you don't think it worked, just reboot your phone, and you will see that it did, infact, work.
There are still people going on about IMEI loss with CWM. First of all, you should have backed up your IMEI with su > reboot nvbackup in a terminal emulator. When your IMEI is 0, what happened was your nvdata got corrupted, so the backups were restored. Problem is you didn't make a backup, so those partitions contained nothing but dummy data, instead of the nvdata they are supposed to contain. It's been theorized that this is a screw up at the factory level. Easily rectified.
Last I checked, no one has figured out why this corruption happens. Flashing a nightly flashes the kernel and copies system files. Which means it can happen with either CWM or TWRP. I suspect the disparity in user bases, combined with the rarity of the problem, is why you don't see people complaining about IMEI loss with TWRP.
Kernel cleanser? You don't need one. Just flash a new kernel, it will overwrite the old one (it's a partition).
What problems have you heard about with TWRP? My complaints are mostly nitpicks, and I'm biased. It works fine. Make sure you're always using the latest versions, though.
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Its actually not just a few files. Its quite some 60 megs depending how many apps you have installed
I made a dalvik cache wiper.
If you notice when you use CWM to clear dalvik cache, then reboot, it doesnt say android is upgrading at all. Making me think it doesnt work.
But when you just flash my script, it says its upgrading.
the zip is simple, all it does is delete_recursive("/data/dalvik-cache/") and thats it.
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Its actually not just a few files. Its quite some 60 megs depending how many apps you have installed
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Obviously, it was an exaggeration.
After your report on dalvik wipe not working, I was inclined to try it myself, since I always wipe cache+dalvik when flashing a new rom. Wiping just dalvik, I was greeted with the optimizing apps prompt on the next boot.
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Obviously, it was an exaggeration.
After your report on dalvik wipe not working, I was inclined to try it myself, since I always wipe cache+dalvik when flashing a new rom. Wiping just dalvik, I was greeted with the optimizing apps prompt on the next boot.
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So did i.. but it optimized the same amount of apps that the "wipe cache" option does. I seriously wonder now if they are one in the same. Like if they are coded to wipe /cache and /data/dalvik-cache. Cause when using my zip, i only optimize 58 apps.
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Whay exactly does a full wipe consist of? Using RA 2.3 recovery.
I usually wipe system, cache, and dalvik that way I keep all my dl app but some wipe data also. U can wipe boot as well.
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Whay exactly does a full wipe consist of? Using RA 2.3 recovery.
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A full wipe, in preparation to flash a new rom would consist of wiping:
data/factory reset
cache
dalvik cache
boot
system
I always wipe everything 2 or 3 times. I also flash Calkulin's Format All after wiping all of the above. That might be overkill, but it makes me feel better before I flash a rom, lol. You get a completely clean start.
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A full wipe, in preparation to flash a new rom would consist of wiping:
data/factory reset
cache
dalvik cache
boot
system
I always wipe everything 2 or 3 times. I also flash Calkulin's Format All after wiping all of the above. That might be overkill, but it makes me feel better before I flash a rom, lol. You get a completely clean start.
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What would happen if i wiped everything and rebooted? not that i wanna try it or anything just curious
My definition of a full wipe using amon RA is EVERYTHING in the wipe menu except the SD card and when I flash a different rom, I wipe everything on that list with the exception of the card itself. Technically speaking, however, the list that k2buckley posted is correct.
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What would happen if i wiped everything and rebooted? not that i wanna try it or anything just curious
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If you tried to boot after wiping what I mentioned, you will either hang at the splash screen or it will boot you right to fastboot (not sure really though, as I've never tried, but it wouldn't boot, for sure). Since it wipes system and boot image, there would be nothing installed for you to boot into. Btw, I would avoid trying that lol.
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If you tried to boot after wiping what I mentioned, you will either hang at the splash screen or it will boot you right to fastboot (not sure really though, as I've never tried, but it wouldn't boot, for sure). Since it wipes system and boot image, there would be nothing installed for you to boot into. Btw, I would avoid trying that lol.
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+1........(laughing)
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My definition of a full wipe using amon RA is EVERYTHING in the wipe menu except the SD card and when I flash a different rom, I wipe everything on that list with the exception of the card itself. Technically speaking, however, the list that k2buckley posted is correct.
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That's crazy. Wiping everything like that is over kill. No need to wipe data as its all the apps that uve downloaded from the market. The only ones really needed are dalvik, cache, boot, and system. And I've only ever had to do it one time then flash a rom and it works everytime plus I have all my data and apps there still
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That's crazy. Wiping everything like that is over kill. No need to wipe data as its all the apps that uve downloaded from the market. The only ones really needed are dalvik, cache, boot, and system. And I've only ever had to do it one time then flash a rom and it works everytime plus I have all my data and apps there still
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He asked what a FULL wipe was. Not if it was necessary or required. And not wiping data when going from one rom to a different one (not an update of the same rom, but to a totally different rom) has ALWAYS left me with weird issues, such as wake locks, cm Widgets on salvage mod, reboots etc.
Oh well, we all have our own methods and rituals for flashing, lol. I will stick to my methods, and everyone else can use theirs.
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Papa Smurf151 said:
That's crazy. Wiping everything like that is over kill. No need to wipe data as its all the apps that uve downloaded from the market. The only ones really needed are dalvik, cache, boot, and system. And I've only ever had to do it one time then flash a rom and it works everytime plus I have all my data and apps there still
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It may very well be overkill, however, that is my method and it has served me well and has saved me a great deal of unnecessary troubleshooting. But hey, to each his or her own, right? Take care and enjoy the rest of your night....
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.....And not wiping data when going from one rom to a different one (not an update of the same rom, but to a totally different rom) has ALWAYS left me with weird issues, such as wake locks, cm Widgets on salvage mod, reboots etc......
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Same here, my friend.........and when I change roms, I don't want any remnants of the previous one.
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Same here, my friend.........and when I change roms, I don't want any remnants of the previous one.
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I agree as well; I only restore my apps with data and my launcher settings, [person preference].
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I agree as well; I only restore my apps with data and my launcher settings, [person preference].
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I'm guessing u know this but have u ever looked at ur data folder with root exployer or what ever. The app folder might have 5-6 apps in it and the app-private folder holds the apps u dl from market. So wiping it in recovery makes little sense. I've flashed plenty of different roms without wiping data and never had a problem. Plus on an upnote all ihave to do is flash the roms and gapps if needed and restart and that's it. No need to sit there for an hour restoring apps or settings
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I'm guessing u know this but have u ever looked at ur data folder with root exployer or what ever.
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Yes, i have.
The app folder might have 5-6 apps in it and the app-private folder holds the apps u dl from market.
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Not with my current setup. My data/apps/ folder contains ALL of my 3rd party apps except Anfry Birds Rio and my app-private folder is empty.
So wiping it in recovery makes little sense.
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Yes and No.
I've flashed plenty of different roms without wiping data and never had a problem.
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I believe you and don't have a problem with you doing it that way, however, like you, I, too, have flashed a great deal of roms and my method has also served me well. It is not wrong for me to use my method. It's just a matter of preference and nothing more.
Plus on an upnote all ihave to do is flash the roms and gapps if needed and restart and that's it. No need to sit there for an hour restoring apps or settings
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I understand, but, I do not sit for hours restoring my apps. My apps are restored within minutes. Anyway, I appreciate your viewpoint. Take care and have a great night.....
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Looking to see if one of the awesome devs here can whip something up. On previous devices we seemed to have some flashable wipe scripts that would do a thorough job of cleaning the device before a flash. For instance one could wipe cache, dalvic, data, and system, as well as do some sort of disc alignment in one flashable script. It would mount the proper partitions and ensure that the device was clean for a fresh install. With all the choices between aosp, ics, and jelly bean roms, this may help alleviate some of the questions about what,and how to wipe properly. I for one would love to see a similar file for this device.
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Looking to see if one of the awesome devs here can whip something up. On previous devices we seemed to have some flashable wipe scripts that would do a thorough job of cleaning the device before a flash. For instance one could wipe cache, dalvic, data, and system, as well as do some sort of disc alignment in one flashable script. It would mount the proper partitions and ensure that the device was clean for a fresh install. With all the choices between aosp, ics, and jelly bean roms, this may help alleviate some of the questions about what,and how to wipe properly. I for one would love to see a similar file for this device.
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+1, I was using a super wipe script on my Galaxy Nexus and it helps streamline and optimize flashes
Micronads said:
Looking to see if one of the awesome devs here can whip something up. On previous devices we seemed to have some flashable wipe scripts that would do a thorough job of cleaning the device before a flash. For instance one could wipe cache, dalvic, data, and system, as well as do some sort of disc alignment in one flashable script. It would mount the proper partitions and ensure that the device was clean for a fresh install. With all the choices between aosp, ics, and jelly bean roms, this may help alleviate some of the questions about what,and how to wipe properly. I for one would love to see a similar file for this device.
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If people have any questions about how to wipe or what wipes are necessary for there particular flash I believe they should read more and learn about there device inside and out so they won't need to ask such questions and can fix problems themselves, not spoon feed them a do all script that they have no clue what it's doing or afterwards if something goes wrong they will have no clue how they got there or how to fix it. My 2c.
I do see your point of making it easier for power users however, but in reality most fresh install require 3 different wipes all located right next to each other(twrp) and dirty installs even less, I don't really see that 10 seconds it takes to wipe the phone clean to be such an issue, but that's just me. Not trying to argue or flame, just my thoughts.
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I don't know about disk alignment but this will do the wiping for you.
I know this is obvious but don't run this from the internal storage. Only do it from external.
http://goo.im/devs/crawrj/Android/ATT_GS3/CWM-Wipe-All-GS3.zip
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If people have any questions about how to wipe or what wipes are necessary for there particular flash I believe they should read more and learn about there device inside and out so they won't need to ask such questions and can fix problems themselves, not spoon feed them a do all script that they have no clue what it's doing or afterwards if something goes wrong they will have no clue how they got there or how to fix it. My 2c.
I do see your point of making it easier for power users however, but in reality most fresh install require 3 different wipes all located right next to each other(twrp) and dirty installs even less, I don't really see that 10 seconds it takes to wipe the phone clean to be such an issue, but that's just me. Not trying to argue or flame, just my thoughts.
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No clue on how they got there or how to fix it? It is a wipe script, not a magically fix and load custom stuff on there phone script. Again if you cant help then don't post.
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I don't know about disk alignment but this will do the wiping for you.
I know this is obvious but don't run this from the internal storage. Only do it from external.
http://goo.im/devs/crawrj/Android/ATT_GS3/CWM-Wipe-All-GS3.zip
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Does this wipe internal storage? Based on your instructions I am assuming so.
That's the problem to use a script to wipe data also wipe your internal sdcard. The only safe way is to use a custom recovery that doesn't wipe /data/media. I can look into it and see if it can be done without wiping data/media but no promises...
The link above just deletes the directories, including data so i wouldn't recommend using that if you want to keep your internal sd contents.
Here is the one we used on the hercules, maybe you can try to make it work on this device.
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That's the problem to use a script to wipe data also wipe your internal sdcard. The only safe way is to use a custom recovery that doesn't wipe /data/media. I can look into it and see if it can be done without wiping data/media but no promises...
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Thank you sir. I have attached in the post above this the script that was used on the S2. Maybe you can do something with it.
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Does this wipe internal storage? Based on your instructions I am assuming so.
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Yeah it wipes data like a factory reset.
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That's the problem to use a script to wipe data also wipe your internal sdcard. The only safe way is to use a custom recovery that doesn't wipe /data/media. I can look into it and see if it can be done without wiping data/media but no promises...
The link above just deletes the directories, including data so i wouldn't recommend using that if you want to keep your internal sd contents.
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You could have it backup /data/media and restore it after the wipe. Of course the better way would be to just skip it but I am not sure how to do that.
OK here is a new one that will wipe data but not /data/media.
http://goo.im/devs/crawrj/Android/ATT_GS3/CWM-Wipe-All-GS3.zip
Edit: It still wipes cache, system and dalvik just to be clear.
So it wipes data, system, cache, and dalvic. I was only concerned because i thought your original one wiped sdcard.
Edit. Did you see the file i posted from the last script i used?
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So it wipes data, system, cache, and dalvic. I was only concerned because i thought your original one wiped sdcard.
Edit. Did you see the file i posted from the last script i used?
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Yeah it wipes all of those but doesn't wipe /data/media. The original one did wipe all of data so I fixed it to skip media.
I must have missed that post but to be honest I am weary of the disk align thing. I have never done it and have never had a problem so I likely never would use it.
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Will this work on the T-Mobile S3?
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Will this work on the T-Mobile S3?
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It will as long as your partitions are the same. I can't imagine why they wouldn't be. I know Sprints are. Once I get to the office I will check it out.
Edit: Yes it will work on the T-Mobile S3.
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Devs, please specify on your flashing instructions for users of CWM 6.0.x.x and above, that TDJs superwipe and cache wipe script will break CWM. TDJ never removed the fixes he included in the script for CWM 5.0.2.7 and they are the root of the issue of the recovery breaking when using the scripts with CWM 6.0+. They are only meant for CWM 5.0.2.7 AND TWRP 2.2+ and people do not know this. As you may or may not know using these on any version of CWM other than 5.0.2.7 BREAKS THE RECOVERY!!! The forums are piling up with people complaining about broken CWM installations.
If you wish to continue using TDJ's wipe scripts, Flash TWRP 2.3.1.1, which you can DL here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qibb4qrp4zdc76a/TWRP-2.3.1.1-hercules.zip
or visit the TWRP 2.3.1.1 in it's own thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1768742
For users of CWM 6.0+, please refer to and use the flashing instructions provided within this thread instead of using the wipe scripts:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1926754
They work the exact same way whether you're on CWM or TWRP.
A few pointers..
-Please stop fixing permissions and cache wiping after flashing a ROM. This is only necessary if you're having issues with the ROM AFTER you have installed it.
-IF you are using any of TDJs ROMS ONLY use CWM 5.0.2.7 OR TWRP 2.2+. His ROMS automatically flash the aforementioned superwipe script, causing reboot hangs. The only method to fixing the reboot hang is to flash TDJ's Cache Wipe and this breaks CWM's ability to flash ANYTHING correctly. Forcing the user to have to ODIN back to stock.
The forums are getting cluttered up with people having issues that can be completely avoided if the specifics are stated within your flashing instructions.
Instructions have been edited and specified further upon to avoid further confusion.
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good info...
Flashable wipe scripts are made by many different devs on multiple devices. Most of the time the superwipe scripts do a better job between rom flashing .. to be honest even though its not needed it is a convenience for some. I use a superwipe script on my wife's sensation all the time between flashing .. I'd say if the script breaks the recovery then the recovery is borked...
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I think the info is good to put out there, but the thread title and the way you worded this needs to be edited.. I mean your not a dev and i mean this in a nice way.. you don't get to tell them what they should and should not do.. just sayin..
AND the cache wipe/ fix perm script was made because CWM wasn't doing it correctly. Yes that is correct..
The Superwipe was made for yes the same reason, however its also to make sure that all of the partitions get wiped and aligned correctly before a flash... just like every other superwipe for every other phone (there is many many of these scripts..)... still relevant and useful..
Bottom line is newer versions of CWM apparently doesn't play well with these kinds of scripts.. and that to me is an issue with the recovery..
HOWEVER ya'll should stop arguing over this, it makes you bolth look a bit childish and petty..
Alrighty then...I have done a full sweep of this thread. No more fighting whats so ever. Digital bliss everyone is entitled to their own opinions...that does not mean you can voice them without getting lashed at. RushAOZ...not everyone is having this issue obviously but the thread is a great reference to those that are.
Oh.. btw.. fixing perm and wiping cache is a good idea after a rom flash... your giving bad Info here.. It insurers that there is not going to be anything in your dalvik cache that could conflict. And doing fix fix permissions just makes sure that everything is set and aligned correctly. If anything it 100% does not cause issues and is recommended ...
You should really take that out of your post
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Oh.. btw.. fixing perm and wiping cache is a good idea after a rom flash... your giving bad Info here.. It insurers that there is not going to be anything in your dalvik cache that could conflict. And doing fix fix permissions just makes sure that everything is set and aligned correctly. If anything it 100% does not cause issues and is recommended ...
You should really take that out of your post
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Sorry, but that's absolutely unnecessary and actually does cause issues.
To do these steps after the ROM has loaded and has been under use causes no issues and does fix any issues you might have. For example I just flashed cm10 nightly from fresh. After I had completely set up my phone and installed and restored app data I noticed my phone was charging extremely slow. Fixed permissions and everything's in order now. But wiping cache and fixing permissions immediately after flashing, without loading the ROM up is pointless. Once your ROM is flashed after initial wiping all files are set in place and ready to go as the developer intended. Wiping caches and fixing permissions right after ROM intallation might offset the original boot sequence and cause issues.
Look at hate410s post for proof of this. He took these same steps, and a few more unneeded ones and he can't get a stable install to save his life.
If you wipe properly or run TDJs wipe gets the phone ready for any ROM installation and if done correctly will install the ROM as the developer intended. If you have issues up initial boot after wiping correctly, chances the flaw lies in the ROM itself. If that makes any sense. Its only logic.
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Sorry, but that's absolutely unnecessary and actually does cause issues.
To do these steps after the ROM has loaded and has been under use causes no issues and does fix any issues you might have. For example I just flashed cm10 nightly from fresh. After I had completely set up my phone and installed and restored app data I noticed my phone was charging extremely slow. Fixed permissions and everything's in order now. But wiping cache and fixing permissions immediately after flashing, without loading the ROM up is pointless. Once your ROM is flashed after initial wiping all files are set in place and ready to go as the developer intended. Wiping caches and fixing permissions right after ROM intallation might offset the original boot sequence and cause issues.
Look at hate410s post for proof of this. He took these same steps, and a few more unneeded ones and he can't get a stable install to save his life.
If you wipe properly or run TDJs wipe gets the phone ready for any ROM installation and if done correctly will install the ROM as the developer intended. If you have issues up initial boot after wiping correctly, chances the flaw lies in the ROM itself. If that makes any sense. Its only logic.
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Lmao.. NO.. I'm not going to argue with you.. but your wrong and spreading miss information.
A uid mismatch fix, commonly referred to as a fix permission just makes sure the permissions are set correct.. it can't mess up anything..
and depending on what you have flashed and if you have or have not factory reset doing a cache wipe will ensure there will not be any conflicts in your dalvik cache.. also can't mess up anything..
I think you really should learn what these thing are and what they do before you make comments about them.
The fact that you think there is special things that can be messed up on first boot shows your lack of knowledge.. yes devs can have scripts run at boot, for example a zip alignment .. however regardless of if you did or did not do a wipe and fix perm these things will still run, they are just boot scripts.. lmao..
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+1 fixing permissions right after a fresh install does absolutely nothing. You have to do it once the rom has settled in. Just to prove, if you try to fresh install a ROM with twrp and hit fix permissions it will say ABORTED.
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Doesn't say aborted for me... and I'm using twrp.. it does a permission fix with no issue..
And its been a recommended step since the G1.. but do what ya want..
Either way telling people not to do it or a chache wipe is still spreading bad information ..
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Lmao.. NO.. I'm not going to argue with you.. but your wrong and spreading miss information.
A uid mismatch fix, commonly referred to as a fix permission just makes sure the permissions are set correct.. it can't mess up anything..
and depending on what you have flashed and if you have or have not factory reset doing a cache wipe will ensure there will not be any conflicts in your dalvik cache.. also can't mess up anything..
I think you really should learn what these thing are and what they do before you make comments about them.
The fact that you think there is special things that can be messed up on first boot shows your lack of knowledge.. yes devs can have scripts run at boot, for example a zip alignment .. however regardless of if you did or did not do a wipe and fix perm these things will still run, they are just boot scripts.. lmao..
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First of all there's no need to get riled up. I've been on these forums and flashing phones since 2008. I think I know a thing or 2 about it.
As far as everything you said that could go wrong, to me is easily avoided with a full formatting of your partitions. If you have a clean canvas to work with, you should have 0 errors in your install. Unless the ROM itself has any flaws of course. And if that's the case you shouldn't be flashing it.
Well to each his own. I make these decisions based on the fact that I've owned about 7 android phones and not one developer or flash instruction I've read called for an immediate cache wiping and permission fix as soon as your ROM is installed. Not my G2, Epic 4g, GSII, Nexus S 4g, Evo 4g, Evo 3d, and the plethora of other phones L
I've flashed for people which include a Galaxy Nexus, Epic Touch 4g, Vibrant, GSIII and an international Galaxy S2.. Only on this phone.
And the reason I say it's unnecessary is because I'm one of those people that NEVER have issues except issues that are already established by the developer in the op.
I've flashed every ROM in this forums, using my flash instructions (which really aren't mine, it's just the old fashioned, right way to wipe) and every ROM has worked flawlessly with no freak errors.
To me, just making sure that you've properly formatted all your partitions is all the ROM needs to install and work as intended.
And it's been working like a charm for me since 2008. Take my word for it or not. But like I said. A simple, proper wipe is all you need to for a ROM to install error free. Look at my post history. You'll find 0 posts having to do with any issues that I'm not already supposed to have. I was even one of those people that haven't had an RR or SoDs since CM10 nightlies released. But like I said, to each his own.
Btw boot loops are one of the common issues people get when wiping cache and fixing permissions without letting the ROM boot up for the first time. You can find plenty of those in the TW rom threads.
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01. Download ROM (Link is Below)
02. BACKUP ALL APPS with preferred method (ie: Rom Toolbox, Titanium, My Backup, etc..)
03. Place ROM on ROOT of your SD card. (ie: /sdcard)
04. Boot into Recovery Mode
05. Do a NAND BACKUP!!!
06. Flash DARKSIDE.SUPER.WIPE (OPTIONAL - ROM will do this by default)
07. Flash an ICS ready radio (Links below)
08. Flash ROM.
09. After flashing is complete, Reboot...
10. Let device sit for 10min without touching, then reboot.
11. Done!
These are flashing instructions from TDJ himself. Not only did he have the most popular rom for the T989 (with his Evolution v8 thread having more than 1.2 million views...) but he's widely considered the best dev this phone has ever had. Not only that he's not a new guy and has been around since the mytouch days. I don't see any instructions in there about wiping cache and fixing permissions immediately after ROM installation, do you?
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01. Download ROM (Link is Below)
02. BACKUP ALL APPS with preferred method (ie: Rom Toolbox, Titanium, My Backup, etc..)
03. Place ROM on ROOT of your SD card. (ie: /sdcard)
04. Boot into Recovery Mode
05. Do a NAND BACKUP!!!
06. Flash DARKSIDE.SUPER.WIPE (OPTIONAL - ROM will do this by default)
07. Flash an ICS ready radio (Links below)
08. Flash ROM.
09. After flashing is complete, Reboot...
10. Let device sit for 10min without touching, then reboot.
11. Done!
These are flashing instructions from TDJ himself. Not only did he have the most popular rom for the T989 (with his Evolution v8 thread having more than 1.2 million views...) but he's widely considered the best dev this phone has ever had. Not only that he's not a new guy and has been around since the mytouch days. I don't see any instructions in there about wiping cache and fixing permissions immediately after ROM installation, do you?
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His roms are set up to run the cache wipe scripts automatically during a flash.. so yes it is doing a fix perm..
AND while i agree he is talented, I would not call him the best on our device. Especially when guys like whitehawx are around.. or Eugene.. or any of the other guys who have been around for YEARS.. but thats an opinion..
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First of all there's no need to get riled up. I've been on these forums and flashing phones since 2008. I think I know a thing or 2 about it.
As far as everything you said that could go wrong, to me is easily avoided with a full formatting of your partitions. If you have a clean canvas to work with, you should have 0 errors in your install. Unless the ROM itself has any flaws of course. And if that's the case you shouldn't be flashing it.
Well to each his own. I make these decisions based on the fact that I've owned about 7 android phones and not one developer or flash instruction I've read called for an immediate cache wiping and permission fix as soon as your ROM is installed. Not my G2, Epic 4g, GSII, Nexus S 4g, Evo 4g, Evo 3d, and the plethora of other phones L
I've flashed for people which include a Galaxy Nexus, Epic Touch 4g, Vibrant, GSIII and an international Galaxy S2.. Only on this phone.
And the reason I say it's unnecessary is because I'm one of those people that NEVER have issues except issues that are already established by the developer in the op.
I've flashed every ROM in this forums, using my flash instructions (which really aren't mine, it's just the old fashioned, right way to wipe) and every ROM has worked flawlessly with no freak errors.
To me, just making sure that you've properly formatted all your partitions is all the ROM needs to install and work as intended.
And it's been working like a charm for me since 2008. Take my word for it or not. But like I said. A simple, proper wipe is all you need to for a ROM to install error free. Look at my post history. You'll find 0 posts having to do with any issues that I'm not already supposed to have. I was even one of those people that haven't had an RR or SoDs since CM10 nightlies released. But like I said, to each his own.
Btw boot loops are one of the common issues people get when wiping cache and fixing permissions without letting the ROM boot up for the first time. You can find plenty of those in the TW rom threads.
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again.. your spreading incorrect information and someone should take this information down.. Im glad you've been here a whopping year longer than I.. I have also owned several devices and have done a cache wipe and a fix perm after flashing since the beginning and it has NEVER cause an issue..
INFACT most of the time people report a boot loop the first thing they are told is to do a reboot and wipe cache and fix permission and it usually fixes the boot loop..
And here is an example from a different Devs thread ptmr, whos jedi roms are very popular..
Instructions
TWRP Recovery Recommended!
ALWAYS FULL WIPE!
-Download ROM
-Backup your apps with preferred method(app2zip is great)
-Nandroid
-Wipe data ( factory data reset)
-Wipe system (Format system (in mounts/storage) if on CWM)
-Flash ROM
-Wipe cache/Dalvik
-Fix Permissions
-(USE DARKSIDE CACHE SCRIPT IF STILL ON CWM RECOVERY)
-Boot system and DO NOT TOUCH FOR 10 MIN
-After the 10 min, reboot phone and enjoy the Mind Trick
-DO NOT RESTORE DATA!!!
PJcastaldo said:
His roms are set up to run the cache wipe scripts automatically during a flash.. so yes it is doing a fix perm..
AND while i agree he is talented, I would not call him the best on our device. Especially when guys like whitehawx are around.. or Eugene.. or any of the other guys who have been around for YEARS.. but thats an opinion..
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again.. your spreading incorrect information and someone should take this information down.. Im glad you've been here a whopping year longer than I.. I have also owned several devices and have done a cache wipe and a fix perm after flashing since the beginning and it has NEVER cause an issue..
INFACT most of the time people report a boot loop the first thing they are told is to do a reboot and wipe cache and fix permission and it usually fixes the boot loop..
And here is an example from a different Devs thread ptmr, whos jedi roms are very popular..
Instructions
TWRP Recovery Recommended!
ALWAYS FULL WIPE!
-Download ROM
-Backup your apps with preferred method(app2zip is great)
-Nandroid
-Wipe data ( factory data reset)
-Wipe system (Format system (in mounts/storage) if on CWM)
-Flash ROM
-Wipe cache/Dalvik
-Fix Permissions
-(USE DARKSIDE CACHE SCRIPT IF STILL ON CWM RECOVERY)
-Boot system and DO NOT TOUCH FOR 10 MIN
-After the 10 min, reboot phone and enjoy the Mind Trick
-DO NOT RESTORE DATA!!!
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Yes, TDJs super wipe formats and wipes cache BEFORE ROM installation, not afterwards.
Like I said to each his own whatever works for you.
Also this info doesn't need to be taken down. Maybe those flashing steps apply to the Jedi ROMs specifically, because of you check all the other ROMs these steps aren't listed as necessary. Only the current crop of TW ROMs. So we both may be correct and in the end it probably doesn't matter. I've flashed the Jedi ROMs myself and didn't do anything other than flashing the superwipe script, flashing the ROM and reboot. No issues. The step might just be a precautionary measure.I know for a fact that with AOSP based ROMs the step is unnecessary. You don't even need to wait the initial 10 minute time like with TW ROMs either lol. Like I said whatever works for ya works man.
Happy flashing folks!
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Yes, TDJs super wipe formats and wipes cache BEFORE ROM installation, not afterwards.
Like I said to each his own whatever works for you.
Also this info doesn't need to be taken down. Maybe those flashing steps apply to the Jedi ROMs specifically, because of you check all the other ROMs these steps aren't listed as necessary. Only the current crop of TW ROMs. So we both may be correct and in the end it probably doesn't matter. I've flashed the Jedi ROMs myself and didn't do anything other than flashing the superwipe script, flashing the ROM and reboot. No issues. The step might just be a precautionary measure.I know for a fact that with AOSP based ROMs the step is unnecessary. You don't even need to wait the initial 10 minute time like with TW ROMs either lol. Like I said whatever works for ya works man.
Happy flashing folks!
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Ill agree with you when it comes to that waiting ten minutes thing.. I personally think its a myth..
but you still get a few of these..
And im sorry, im not trying to argue with you.. But neither you nor I are a dev, we are just flashers who have much knowledge.
Point being a cache wipe and a fix perm is not required, but WILL prevent issues and CAN NOT IN ANY WAY cause a problem.. your OP is wrong and should be edited to reflect that.
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Ill agree with you when it comes to that waiting ten minutes thing.. I personally think its a myth..
but you still get a few of these..
And im sorry, im not trying to argue with you.. But neither you nor I are a dev, we are just flashers who have much knowledge.
Point being a cache wipe and a fix perm is not required, but WILL prevent issues and CAN NOT IN ANY WAY cause a problem.. your OP is wrong and should be edited to reflect that.
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Haha you just made me remember a specific part of my claims I didn't mention. I should have clarified. I'm talking about flashing TDJs wipe cache immediately after flashing a ROM. I've done this myself and came up with boot loops. Which is probably due to CWM 6.0.1.4 AND 6.0.1.5s intolerance for the fixes TDJ included to fix the crap CWM 5.0.2.7 couldn't get done =D
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Haha you just made me remember a specific part of my claims I didn't mention. I should have clarified. I'm talking about flashing TDJs wipe cache immediately after flashing a ROM. I've done this myself and came up with boot loops. Which is probably due to CWM 6.0.1.4 AND 6.0.1.5s intolerance for the fixes TDJ included to fix the crap CWM 5.0.2.7 couldn't get done =D
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Which brings back the main point of your thread.. I am telling you that these kinds of scripts are not only made for our device, but many others as well. The reason those specific recovery's don't flash them properly is because they are borked...
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Which brings back the main point of your thread.. I am telling you that these kinds of scripts are not only made for our device, but many others as well. The reason those specific recovery's don't flash them properly is because they are borked...
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Nah the problem with the scripts isn't the scripts themselves. They're awesome! Who wouldn't want a on click solution to wiping their partitions? Its the fixes TDJ included to fix CWM 5.0.2.7s faults, which have been fixed in CWM 6+, which is why they cause issues. TWRP is immune to these fixes and they work perfectly. So to any users out there, if you have CWM 6+, do t use the wipes. Any TWRP users, the scripts work perfectly well and won't ruin anything. Thanks for helping me clarify that Castaldo. The recoveries used with our phones are very different and call for different flashing instructions. Which is the point to my post. Devs, please clarify this! And your threads won't be full of crazy issues that can easily be avoided lol
I'm busy working on some beer and liquor with friends ATM. Gonna get back to that lol
enjoy your weekend and happy flashing folks!
I'll fix the OP with these new changes ASAP.
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The more you guys debate, the more we learn. I'm trying to think of a way to feed the fire.... lol
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bzlik88 said:
The more you guys debate, the more we learn. I'm trying to think of a way to feed the fire.... lol
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feel free.
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I've been seeing all of these post saying "Start with a full wipe". I've used this same script for the longest and it works perfecrtly. Just flash the Aroma zip and go at it.
I TAKE NO CREDIT FOR THIS AMAZING SCRIPT BY zoot1 I am merely reposting this so as to save the trouble of Googling it or search through countless threads. Please support zoot1 and all his findings.
Here is a link to the file
zoot1's Wipe Scripts
& here's a link to his original thread
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DatBoiJeremy said:
I've been seeing all of these post saying "Start with a full wipe". I've used this same script for the longest and it works perfecrtly. Just flash the Aroma zip and go at it.
I TAKE NO CREDIT FOR THIS AMAZING SCRIPT BY zoot1 I am merely reposting this so as to save the trouble of Googling it or search through countless threads. Please support zoot1 and all his findings.
Here is a link to the file
zoot1's Wipe Scripts
& here's a link to his original thread
Click Here
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I looked the script over and it does nothing more than wipe data cache preload and system. It does not touch internal sdcard (data/media) which is the major part when a dev says do a FULL WIPE.
Not saying this is a bad choice for users just that it is still not considered a full wipe.
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jlmancuso said:
I looked the script over and it does nothing more than wipe data cache preload and system. It does not touch internal sdcard (data/media) which is the major part when a dev says do a FULL WIPE.
Not saying this is a bad choice for users just that it is still not considered a full wipe.
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Any time I've ran the "Mega Wipe" function, it does the trick for me when needed to. Removes any problems when I've had a bad flash.
But......if someone is skeptical of the script, then they shouldn't flash it. Just posting someone else's findings and making them more available to anyone who might want to use it.
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Any time I've ran the "Mega Wipe" function, it does the trick for me when needed to. Removes any problems when I've had a bad flash.
But......if someone is skeptical of the script, then they shouldn't flash it. Just posting someone else's findings and making them more available to anyone who might want to use it.
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As i stated i looked it all over and the scripts are fine. I just wanted anyone who uses it to know it does not wipe /data/media
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Ive seen that the full wipe of going into the mount options and wiping something in there is recommend for some roms, I'm curious to why it's necessary because i've just stuck with the wiping regular and havent encountered problems or force closes yet? Is it a speed issue or something else?
Just curious if its something I should look into figuring out and what exactly it is and wipes different.
Thanks
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Ive seen that the full wipe of going into the mount options and wiping something in there is recommend for some roms, I'm curious to why it's necessary because i've just stuck with the wiping regular and havent encountered problems or force closes yet? Is it a speed issue or something else?
Just curious if its something I should look into figuring out and what exactly it is and wipes different.
Thanks
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Its just an easy "all in one" wipe instead of doing it one by one, the zip does it for you. I use the Mega wipe option on it and it cleans the system, data, cache, and dalvik cache of your phone.
Yeah I've used it before but what I was curious about was the wipe method that jlmancuso was referring to, I've heard it mentioned on a few other posts, but I tend to not mess around with formatting my SD if I don't have to unless I know what I'm doing, but I've never messed around with the formatting options on PHiLZ Recovery enough to know what they're talking about when they say to go in there and do that, plus I've never needed to.
I figured that i'm not the only one who like you just does the regular system, data, cache and dalvik cache wipes before flashes and that's it.
From what I've read it seems like some people with certain larger SD cards have to format their cards or something with certain roms... I dunno, i'll just do what I always do and make a nandroid and go screw around until I figure it out, its always worked in the past.
Thanks for the wipe script though, as I use to use one with the e4gt all the time and it's deff a faster way getting through the process when your like me and flash new roms every other day.
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Its just an easy "all in one" wipe instead of doing it one by one, the zip does it for you. I use the Mega wipe option on it and it cleans the system, data, cache, and dalvik cache of your phone.
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N3Ph1L1M said:
Yeah I've used it before but what I was curious about was the wipe method that jlmancuso was referring to, I've heard it mentioned on a few other posts, but I tend to not mess around with formatting my SD if I don't have to unless I know what I'm doing, but I've never messed around with the formatting options on PHiLZ Recovery enough to know what they're talking about when they say to go in there and do that, plus I've never needed to.
I figured that i'm not the only one who like you just does the regular system, data, cache and dalvik cache wipes before flashes and that's it.
From what I've read it seems like some people with certain larger SD cards have to format their cards or something with certain roms... I dunno, i'll just do what I always do and make a nandroid and go screw around until I figure it out, its always worked in the past.
Thanks for the wipe script though, as I use to use one with the e4gt all the time and it's deff a faster way getting through the process when your like me and flash new roms every other day.
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1. Sdcard format... this is only a problem with 64gig cards. They are normally formated as exfat which is mainly supported by touchwiz roms (some aosp rons do support it). Most aosp roms dont support that format so the card needs to be formatted as fat/fat32.
2. The issue with internal sdcard is due to changes in android. The older versions use /data/media/1 as your internal while newer versions use /data/media as your internal. So then you have two different sets of data filling up your internal space.
3. The other issue with internal sdcard is that there can be data left over from other roms that can cause issues (fc's and random reboots).
To fix both 2 and there you need to format the internal sdcard but remember to back that up to pc first (mostly it will be your downloads, pictures, and music). The under mounts you will format /data /data/media and reboot into recovery. If you are not having issues than dont worry about formatting internal sdcard. Yet if you are having fc's and random reboots this can fix most of those issues.
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Good day everyone.
I have successfully rooted my S3 1747.
I have done a backup after installing Rom manager. I also have a nandroid and titanium backup completed.
I would like to install cyanogen mod but its very important that I am able to get my contacts back.
I plan to install through the so called easy method in rom manager.
Am I able to get my stuff back after the install?
Thanks in advance
Most system app data will not be compatible. I don't know about CM, but in TW there's an option to export contacts to SD. It'll save them in a .CSV file. Maybe you can import them to CM contacts like this. Might want to confirm that first though.
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Thanks for the reply. I'm going to do this later. Does cyanogen live up to the hype?
Everyone has their own preference. I personally like touchwiz better. There are plenty who would agree and disagree.
If you've got a nandroid backup of your current set up, its pretty easy to flash a bunch of different ones to see what you like, and then go back if none keep your interest.
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Thanks again for the response and sorry for my late thanks. I was busy at work and overlooked the post.
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You can use google to back up all contacts and restore them on any android with your google account on it....as for the install I believe our s3 is compatible with the cm installer
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You can use google to back up all contacts and restore them on any android with your google account on it....as for the install I believe our s3 is compatible with the cm installer
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When you say cm installer. I assumes you are talking about the app and pc program that does everything automatically. It says my phone is compatible however wouldn't work originally. I had to root and use twrp. Can I use that to update from now on or should I continue to use twrp?
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Well for me cwm is the easiest to use as you just wipe and flash.....its purely up to you, if your gunna use twrp just download the zip boot recovery wipe system, cache, dalvik cache, data (factory reset), and hit install zip and bam you got cyanogen
I wouldn't wipe /system before a flash. If the rom fails to flash youll have no OS to boot into, and it can be a huge pain to get it back. If the rom does flash, its first step will be to format /system, so it gets done anyway.
I think this may be one of those things people used to have to do on some older devices, and was carried on to newer ones. I just think its an unneeded extra step, and more than a few times ended up taking a day or two to help people get their device working right again.
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I wouldn't wipe /system before a flash. If the rom fails to flash youll have no OS to boot into, and it can be a huge pain to get it back. If the rom does flash, its first step will be to format /system, so it gets done anyway.
I think this may be one of those things people used to have to do on some older devices, and was carried on to newer ones. I just think its an unneeded extra step, and more than a few times ended up taking a day or two to help people get their device working right again.
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That's good advice that would have helped me a lot. All the instructions I followed online said to wipe/format everytime.
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Yeah, its extremely common advice. I see it all the time. There are rare times when it is necessary to format system, but I dont feel a rom flash is one of them.
Its still possible to end up with no OS after a failed flash, but the chances are greatly decreased by eliminating that one step!
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