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[Q] Is it possible to root without losing all my data?

I've read much about rooting, but it always seems to come in conjuncture with going into recovery mode and invoking factory settings..
Is there a way that I could just get root access without losing all of my data?
Thanks!
[GSM Galaxy Nexus, Android 4.0.2]

aaagever said:
I've read much about rooting, but it always seems to come in conjuncture with going into recovery mode and invoking factory settings..
Is there a way that I could just get root access without losing all of my data?
Thanks!
[GSM Galaxy Nexus, Android 4.0.2]
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Akaik the answer is no. Once you unlock the bootloader the device gets wiped.

Looks like CF-Root might be able to do the job..
aaagever said:
I've read much about rooting, but it always seems to come in conjuncture with going into recovery mode and invoking factory settings..
Is there a way that I could just get root access without losing all of my data?
Thanks!
[GSM Galaxy Nexus, Android 4.0.2]
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Alright! I love answering myself!
I just found out the CF-Root doesn't wipe the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1396952
Because: "THIS IS NOT A ROM - it is only a modified kernel. You need to have the relevant firmware already on your device. You do NOT need to wipe anything for this patch."
I'll try it an let you all know

aaagever said:
Alright! I love answering myself!
I just found out the CF-Root doesn't wipe the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1396952
Because: "THIS IS NOT A ROM - it is only a modified kernel. You need to have the relevant firmware already on your device. You do NOT need to wipe anything for this patch."
I'll try it an let you all know
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Nice work.

aaagever said:
Alright! I love answering myself!
I just found out the CF-Root doesn't wipe the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1396952
Because: "THIS IS NOT A ROM - it is only a modified kernel. You need to have the relevant firmware already on your device. You do NOT need to wipe anything for this patch."
I'll try it an let you all know
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Rooting doesn't wipe your phone, unlocking your bootloader does.
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joshnichols189 said:
Rooting doesn't wipe your phone, unlocking your bootloader does.
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That's what I thought.

joshnichols189 said:
Rooting doesn't wipe your phone, unlocking your bootloader does.
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So can I root without unlocking the bootloader?

aaagever said:
So can I root without unlocking the bootloader?
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I don't think so. MAybe Josh knows????

aaagever said:
So can I root without unlocking the bootloader?
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I doubt it: it's set up to do that because anyone can unlock it from fastboot and get full access to the phone, it's an attempt to prevent peeps getting access to the data on a stolen phone.

[Q] root w/out wipe out

is there a way to get root/jailbreak without full wipe out?

Jailbreak? What's that?
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ÜBER™ said:
Jailbreak? What's that?
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you know what i mean )

a1exus said:
you know what i mean )
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There is such a way, since i dont have the verizon nexus... i dont quite know where it is but im sure its a sticky in your android development. Or somebody with your phone will come in and post a link.. sorry just jerking your chain

ÜBER™ said:
There is such a way, since i dont have the verizon nexus... i dont quite know where it is but im sure its a sticky in your android development. Or somebody with your phone will come in and post a link.. sorry just jerking your chain
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doesnt work on 4.0.4, only 4.0.2 i believe.

Wipe happens when you unlock your bootloader (which you have to do to flash root), and you can't unlock without wiping.
Swyped on my CM9 Galaxy Nexus

a1exus said:
is there a way to get root/jailbreak without full wipe out?
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You can back up your stuff via adb, unlock (wipe), and then restore via adb. It'll take a while, but it will be like it was never wiped.

a1exus said:
is there a way to get root/jailbreak without full wipe out?
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As was mentioned before:
a) if you are on 4.0.2 or 4.0.1, follow the instructions here to root. Then you can flash CWM, backup via that, and then unlock your bootloader.
b) if you are 4.0.4, follow the instructions here to backup, then unlock your bootloader by following the instructions here (you do not need to do steps 5-13 under part D if you only want to unlock your bootloader), and root by following part E in the same post.

any way to install JB 4.1 without wiping?

Im not rooted or unlocked, just stock from the play store. I was curious if there was a way to update before getting the OTA in a week or so? Also i want to do it without wiping my data

newtonfb said:
Im not rooted or unlocked, just stock from the play store. I was curious if there was a way to update before getting the OTA in a week or so? Also i want to do it without wiping my data
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Use search, this has been awnsered many times before in this forum
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You have to unlock your bootloader to flash Jelly Bean if you do not have Takju IMM30D, Takju IMM30D should get automatically the OTA update to JB.

If you're locked, you have to unlock (which wipes) to flash the JB image.
Just wait for the OTA.

Problem with "search for the answer" replies...
"search is temporarily disabled at this time"
I have been getting that message a lot lately... and it lasts for hours sometimes.
But the answer as others have said is... no, you must unlock and wipe.
Use a tool like Titanium backup, it makes wipes less of a pain. Do not backup system apps unless you are flashing a ROM that is similar, like updates to the ROM you are using, or one that has only minimal differences. For switching to JB... just back up user apps.

Marine6680 said:
Use a tool like Titanium backup, it makes wipes less of a pain. Do not backup system apps unless you are flashing a ROM that is similar, like updates to the ROM you are using, or one that has only minimal differences. For switching to JB... just back up user apps.
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Problem being he must have root to use TiBu, which requires he unlocks the bootloader .

to root without unlocking bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1531865
I tested it once and it worked...

But he said its from the play store... meaning takju... from what I read the takju can unlock the bootloader and it will not wipe lucky
-Google

manumanfred said:
to root without unlocking bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1531865
I tested it once and it worked...
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Only works on 4.0.2. No exploit for 4.0.4.
iGoogleNexus said:
But he said its from the play store... meaning takju... from what I read the takju can u lock the bootloader and it will not wipe lucky
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Only some are reporting this. Not everyone has this "bug".

martonikaj said:
Only works on 4.0.2. No exploit for 4.0.4.
Only some are reporting this. Not everyone has this "bug".
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D8< YOLO
-Google

Marine6680 said:
Problem with "search for the answer" replies...
"search is temporarily disabled at this time"
I have been getting that message a lot lately... and it lasts for hours sometimes
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Google search function doesn't normally fail. It can search xda too.
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martonikaj said:
Problem being he must have root to use TiBu, which requires he unlocks the bootloader .
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Advice for afterwards LOL
bk201doesntexist said:
Google search function doesn't normally fail. It can search xda too.
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True, but many just attempt XDA internal search.

martonikaj said:
Only some are reporting this. Not everyone has this "bug".
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Are you sure? I thought all play store devices did not wipe on unlock.
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martonikaj said:
Only some are reporting this. Not everyone has this "bug".
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of everyone who has posted about their play store gn wiping after unlock, it was just 1 user: DOHctor
the "some" in your statement would be better as "most" or even "almost all"

efrant said:
Are you sure? I thought all play store devices did not wipe on unlock.
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It seemed to me in those threads that there were still people getting wipes when unlocking. Hasn't really been brought up recently though. And we still don't really know why it doesn't wipe.

>=[ so I was right??
-Google

newtonfb said:
Im not rooted or unlocked, just stock from the play store. I was curious if there was a way to update before getting the OTA in a week or so? Also i want to do it without wiping my data
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I hate how u ppl ask these questions when it's pretty obvious this can't be don't without even being unlocked. Just get the Wug's toolkit and unlock and root. Done and forever free from the cage.

Root without unlocking/wipe?

Is there some way to get root without unlocking the bootloader/wiping?

AFAIK root requires a custom recovery, to flash a custom recovery requires unlocked bootloader, so simple answer is no.

ghostofcain said:
AFAIK root requires a custom recovery, to flash a custom recovery requires unlocked bootloader, so simple answer is no.
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What functionality do I loose with unlocking? Wiping data of course, but otherwise?

kokesh said:
What functionality do I loose with unlocking? Wiping data of course, but otherwise?
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Nothing, the only downside is the need to wipe data.

ghostofcain said:
Nothing, the only downside is the need to wipe data.
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I want sure about the fingerprint, etc. Thanks!

Damn, read a bit about what a bootloader is, its role is described in its name. Those fears are pointless.

Striatum_bdr said:
Damn, read a bit about what a bootloader is, its role is described in its name. Those fears are pointless.
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Not necessary, coming from other devices. I am no noob, I know what BL is, but some manufacturers tie certain features to locked BL. Sony for example cripples camera when you unlock.

kokesh said:
Not necessary, coming from other devices. I am no noob, I know what BL is, but some manufacturers tie certain features to locked BL. Sony for example cripples camera when you unlock.
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oneplus works same whether the bootlader is locked or unlocked. the only downside is as soon as you lock or unlock your bootloader your phone is wiped completely.

bonham1988 said:
oneplus works same whether the bootlader is locked or unlocked. the only downside is as soon as you lock or unlock your bootloader your phone is wiped completely.
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How does it work with OTA updates? Do those work with TWRP?

kokesh said:
How does it work with OTA updates? Do those work with TWRP?
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Otas dont work with twrp, oneplus releases a singed ota update on their forums usually within a week or two after the official ota. These singned updates can be flashed via twrp.
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The only downside to unlocking the BL on the OP3 is that you get a warning message (http://i.imgur.com/88NcI2K.jpg) when booting the phone. Lots of people hate it, i like it personally. It makes pressing button combos to get into fastboot/recovery obsolete.

bonham1988 said:
Otas dont work with twrp, oneplus releases a singed ota update on their forums usually within a week or two after the official ota. These singned updates can be flashed via twrp.
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And xda often have a TWRP flash able update before the OTA has reached everyone.

ghostofcain said:
AFAIK root requires a custom recovery ...
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If flashing is the only way to root the device, then yes.
And unfortunately flashing seems to be the only way.

kokesh said:
What functionality do I loose with unlocking? Wiping data of course, but otherwise?
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Security. Your data are no more safe if your phone get stolen.

kokesh said:
What functionality do I loose with unlocking? Wiping data of course, but otherwise?
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All SafetyNet apps stop working (Android Pay, PokeGO etc.)

kokesh said:
What functionality do I loose with unlocking? Wiping data of course, but otherwise?
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I loose Android Pay. That's what i miss
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fp1707 said:
I loose Android Pay. That's what i miss
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Use Magisk and its all fine.

Puddi_Puddin said:
Use Magisk and its all fine.
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I tried setting that up but i keep failing. Not sure what i'm doing wrong
NVM i see what i got wrong, now it works just fine

bonham1988 said:
oneplus works same whether the bootlader is locked or unlocked. the only downside is as soon as you lock or unlock your bootloader your phone is wiped completely.
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This is not correct on OxygenOS 4.0.2, it's possible to root without wipe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDRPWvYJYfU

locking bootloader? Android 8

I went into super su and unrooted my phone. Can I lock my bootloader now or is this a bad idea?

corster88 said:
I went into super su and unrooted my phone. Can I lock my bootloader now or is this a bad idea?
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Bad idea. Next update might fail from left over stuff from root or a mod...then you are done.

TonikJDK said:
Bad idea. Next update might fail from left over stuff from root or a mod...then you are done.
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Whats the solution?

corster88 said:
Whats the solution?
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The solution (I think) would be to wipe data and flash the entire stock image for your phone, then re-lock the bootloader. This will make sure that any folders/files pertaining to being rooted are gone and shouldn't cause any problems when it comes to validating your OS. Just make sure you properly unrooted SU by using their uninstaller/unroot tool before wiping and reflashing.

corster88 said:
Whats the solution?
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LeMoise said:
The solution (I think) would be to wipe data and flash the entire stock image for your phone, then re-lock the bootloader. This will make sure that any folders/files pertaining to being rooted are gone and shouldn't cause any problems when it comes to validating your OS. Just make sure you properly unrooted SU by using their uninstaller/unroot tool before wiping and reflashing.
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Yes run flashall unless you are extremely brave. I used to lock and unlock my nexus 6 bootloader with custom firmwares but this phone is a completely different animal

corster88 said:
I went into super su and unrooted my phone. Can I lock my bootloader now or is this a bad idea?
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Flash. all to both slots and be sure to include -w

Out of curiosity, why do you even wish to lock the bootloader? Especially with the numerous horror stories of users unable to resurrect a bootlooping device (rather simple to fix if unlocked) because their bootloader is locked.

Pain-N-Panic said:
Out of curiosity, why do you even wish to lock the bootloader? Especially with the numerous horror stories of users unable to resurrect a bootlooping device (rather simple to fix if unlocked) because their bootloader is locked.
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Android pay? I know I miss it.

poor2rican1 said:
Android pay? I know I miss it.
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Isn't there a way to get Android pay working with su hide and magisk?

corster88 said:
I went into super su and unrooted my phone. Can I lock my bootloader now or is this a bad idea?
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Locking the bootloader is always a bad idea if you have to ask if it's a bad idea.
poor2rican1 said:
Android pay? I know I miss it.
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Flash a custom kernel.
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Bryanx86 said:
Flash. all to both slots and be sure to include -w
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I'm nub. What do you mean?

Ok I flashed to stock can I lock now?

corster88 said:
Ok I flashed to stock can I lock now?
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Just an FYI, here's someone that locked their bl. Only 2 reasons I can see this as necessary is RMA, and Android pay. And Android pay works with magisk, so really only one reason. Just be sure to know what you're doing. https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/help/pixel-xl-bricked-bootloader-locked-t3698638/page2