I'm curious if someone out there in dev land can explain why custom ROM (ics/jb) 4g is so poor compared to stock ROM 4g.
For example, the FI03 stock ROM or any GB ROM will consistently get 8-15mb/s...whereas custom ROMs like CM9/10 have speeds of 600kb/s max. (Some claim the FI03 modem fixes this issue but this has proven to be untrue by many users)
I know I'm not alone in this category as many other users are report the same speeds as well. Is it kernel related?
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I believe something in the kernel is throttling 4G. I know chris41g is working on it with his kernel, which is why 4G has been borked in his latest experimental CM9 builds.
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Dchibro is correct - it is the the kernel - not the rom - not the modem.
Both above correct, but it is more than just the Kernel .. I asked in a FI03 thread about the removal of the cap and was told the changes are in kernel and in several places in the ROM itself too.
Just happened to me after flashing a new kernel in.
Went from getting 8mbps down in the office to 1.1mbps lol. I think I'll be going back to stock.
Does anyone know when it started getting throttled though. I was sure 4g was fine on cm9 up until a couple months ago....
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I just flashed back to stock FI25 kernel from depository and my 4G speeds are back to normal. Was previously on AGAT's.
Theres a vid on youtube that the CM team did and I believe Cyanogen talked about Sprint phones in general saying they was harder to maintain due to there set up with 4g radios.
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yeah I was getting low 3gish speeds on 4g with agat 5.4 kernel with FI03 stock rooted rom. Switched to his FI03 kernel repack and 4g speeds went back up.
I think it's only really been fixed since FI03 came out and 5.4 isn't based on FI03 source?
I get 8.8 MB/s with BluKuban
Anyone know which kernal to use for CM10 or any JB Roms that wouldn't screw up 4g speeds?
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Anyone know which kernal to use for CM10 or any JB Roms that wouldn't screw up 4g speeds?
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There's no kernel compatible for CM10 no source yet.
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I get 8.8 MB/s with BluKuban
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But on stock rom you get 16 mbs
Sprint Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch w/ Stock 4.0.4
Xperia Play R800X w/ supercharged stock 2.3.3 and doomkernel
I've seen in the Epic4g forums that they've gotten the Nexus S modem and RIL to work with their device. From what I understand, the AOSP Nexus modem works better on custom AOSP roms for the Epic4g than the stock ones. Any idea if this would be feasible on our device, maybe from the GNex?
I don't know, just a blind shot in the dark. Below is a link to a thread discussing patches to make this work, if anybody wants to look a little further into it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1842037
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I actually just flashed Blukuban to see what kind of speeds I would get and I am still get 300 to 400 kbps.
The only roms I get good 4g are GB roms. All JB and ICS I get no more than 700kbps.
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Has any progress been made or is something those of us who are affected will have to deal with?I just tried MIUI, CM 10, and sbrissens aosp and I'm still at the same speed.
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Has any progress been made or is something those of us who are affected will have to deal with?I just tried MIUI, CM 10, and sbrissens aosp and I'm still at the same speed.
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welcome to sprint
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Hey been using different roms and kernels but my phone keeps rebooting itself plz help using sprint sgs 2
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Hey been using different roms and kernels but my phone keeps rebooting itself plz help using sprint sgs 2
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If everything else seems to be working fine, and this is happening on all ROMs, then it is probably either your phone or the battery.
Take the battery out and spin it on the table. If it spins like a top that means it's puffed. A puffed battery is shot get new one. In fact, a puffed battery is potentially dangerous, it means it's internally damaged. It's possible for them to catch fire.
If it's not the battery, it's the phone, get a warranty replacement.
My wife's phone was doing this on multiple ROMs (including stock), and the battery is fine. We have a new phone on the way right now in fact.
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I get 8.8 MB/s with BluKuban
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How is that even possible? I'm in a high 4g coverage area and the fastest 4g I've gotten was 2.2ish, with blu kuban as well.
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So I'm asking for sort of a review of smoothness and speed of the new fd roms compared to fc18 or fc22. Thanks for your input?
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So I'm asking for sort of a review of smoothness and speed of the new fd roms compared to fc18 or fc22. Thanks for your input?
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Read here and see what people said about it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1580802
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So I'm asking for sort of a review of smoothness and speed of the new fd roms compared to fc18 or fc22. Thanks for your input?
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Hold off until fd05, which has already been leaked but not leaked widespread yet.
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You will probably get different answers from everybody. I am still using FC15 myself
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You will probably get different answers from everybody. I am still using FC15 myself
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Exactly why I said hold off. There hasn't been a noticeable improvement since the mid fc15 builds.
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I had some problems with FD02 but it may have been applications. Some applications would freeze the phone or sometime just bringing up messages would lock the phone up. I would just have to wait for lock screen, then unlock and see what crashed. The older versions seem slightly more stable in my experience.
If you are working fine, stable with FC22 there's no reason to be flash crazy. Right now they all have their own issues that seem to be a bit different for everyone.
Wait until a Beta finally shows up, or you hear a lot of rave about a certain new leak and try then.. but right now not 'much' is changing from one leak to another.
huge difference the fd05 is the smoothest release yet
definitely flash
I normally don't upgrade til at least three builds newer are out if that makes sense. Unless there is a huge improvement. I am on FD02 and will most likely stay on it until FD10 is released, if it is released. If you are on a setup right now and its working for you. Hang tight. Cause as soon as you flash FD02/05 then FD10 will be out. Just my thoughts on it.
Are you guys talking about Modem or Kernel?
I have been running the FD10 Modem and Kernel on a FD02 build for the last few days and honestly it seems silky smooth for me. No scripts or undervolting at this point and so far I am getting good battery life out of it too.
I'm on calkulin's E4GT2 v.1.4. (FD02). The only bugs I've seen are that some apps aren't compatible, and the sound notification issue. It doesn't support boot animations and i wouldn't chance flashing any themes. It does support different launchers like go launcher so you can theme it that way. Other than that it is very smooth and solid with EVERYTHING else working including hotspot. Good battery life and no over heating. Came from blazer 4.1 which is awesome and very customizable but caused some battery issues. Although there is a stick FD10 posted in the Dev section, there aren't any custom Roms running on FD10. So I'm gonna stick with Calkulins fdo2 until i see something better. I have tried the goodness and its also good but only 4g hotspot. I need 3g so it was a no.go. Hope this was helpful and as far as SOLID ROMS GO Calkulins are the beast! Thanks calk for all you do. Always go with him first. Sent from my E4GTouch myself oh baby i love this phone
Latest is the greatest ......right? :what:
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im on aokp with fd02 kernel and modem, best battery life i have ever seen on my device, also the smoothest ive seen, but its the only 4.0.4 i have ran. The fd02 modem doesnt seem all that great for me though, having more problems in low coverage areas than before. as in it didnt work where it used to kinda barely work.
FC24 modem + 4.1 blazer ROM = perfection.
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FC24 modem + 4.1 blazer ROM = perfection.
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I will second that. I was using fd05 with decent results but the battery life suffered. Atleast for me fc24 was great signal and great battery too.
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Heck ya the latest fdo2 Calkins rom is da sheezy!
I've read quite a few posts mentioning this but haven't seen any solutions. I'm running Phantom Blazer's ICS ROM with AGAT's newest kernel. Are all ICS ROMs facing this problem or this is specific to Phantom's ROM? If there isn't a solution to this I'll need to go back to GB, I've missed some important emails from work due to this problem.
how did you flash to blazers rom? Did you do a full wipe or no data, I've been seeing a lot of posts about ics bugs where the poster tried to do a nodata flash, this is known to cause lots of wide ranging issues... personally I'm currently on mijjazs goodness but run aokp and cm9 regularly as well, I've not had any issues with wifi disconnecting, and believe me I would notice, I use wifi for most everything as sprint data is mostly unuseable in my area
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Well, one possible solution for now may be to try another wireless router if you have one. I don't know the root cause of this problem, but I do know I had horrible disconnect issues at my girlfriends house after updating (to stock rooted FF18), but no issues at mine. She has a Netgear router, I have an Airport Extreme. they both relatively new. I brought my previous Airport Extreme to her house and set it up. Now I no longer have disconnects at her place either. This doesn't fix whatever is wrong with the phone, but it works...
I have tried all the roms every 1 of them! with a fresh install and wipe everything and wifi disconnects on every 1 of them
I.also did a fresh install using caulkalin's format all zip. My router is an older linksys. Never had any Wi-Fi issues with it on my galaxy s1(fascinate). Anyone know of any developers here have taken a look at what might be causing this?
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it definitely has something to do with the rom, when I am on e l 29 my phone never disconnects, when I flash any I c s rom, I get random disconnects.
Its ff18 TW....I used aokp and now cm9 but didn't have this issue. I did flash quite a few roms besides these and it always happened on tw based roms only.
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Thanks, Dante. I'm running AOKP and wifi disconnect seems to be fixed now. Unfortunately battery life isn't nearly as good but I'll do some reading and hopefully find a way to improve it.
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Yeah happens to me too. But only when I have a weak wifi signal. Doesn't happen at home. Maybe due to the crappy routers in free wifi.
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Thanks, Dante. I'm running AOKP and wifi disconnect seems to be fixed now. Unfortunately battery life isn't nearly as good but I'll do some reading and hopefully find a way to improve it.
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You can also try cm9...chris41g built a kernel for it where you can now control the governor and processor. Battery life has been awesome, plus no wifi issues. Too bad the kernel doesn't work on aokp yet.
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I've read quite a few posts mentioning this but haven't seen any solutions. I'm running Phantom Blazer's ICS ROM with AGAT's newest kernel. Are all ICS ROMs facing this problem or this is specific to Phantom's ROM? If there isn't a solution to this I'll need to go back to GB, I've missed some important emails from work due to this problem.
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Nobody really answered your question as to whether this was a 'known' ics issue. And I'm not going to suggest that you 'buy a new router just in case'. What I will tell you is that I have the same problem, but unfortunatley I'm on the same ROM as you, so I can't rule that out. But there's definitely an issue and it is definitely associated with ICS; would be interested in what non-Blazer folks are seeing.
I've been on AOKP for a full day now. Still no problems with Wi-Fi and I may have spoken too soon about the battery. I'm at 12 hours at 56% with 3 hours screen time which is a lot better than I got on my s1. I love all the options on this rom too. Loving having my 4 way lock screen back.
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I've read quite a few posts mentioning this but haven't seen any solutions. I'm running Phantom Blazer's ICS ROM with AGAT's newest kernel. Are all ICS ROMs facing this problem or this is specific to Phantom's ROM? If there isn't a solution to this I'll need to go back to GB, I've missed some important emails from work due to this problem.
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In case you're still seeing this problem - I switched to Blend ICS FF18 / Goodness 16.6 and the wi-fi problem would seem to have disappeared. I suspect the issue is/was somewhere in the Blazer ROM. I'd ask if the dev was working on it, but probably get flamed; that ROM hasn't been updated in a while anyway, so you might want to try Blend anyway.
I am having the same issues. My Wifi goes up and down every 5 seconds which kills my battery. Mine started on stock phone on GB 2 weeks ago on EL29 (phone was not modified or rooted). I was hoping rooting and flashing to CM9 would fix it. It has not, I have tried multiple modems as well. Any suggestions?
I have a 4 month old NetGear router. All other Wifi devices in the house are working fine.
Its probably just kernel related or router issue, been running blu kuban ics which is touchwiz based and never had a wifi issue. The kernel is sourced build by rujeluss22 with it's own modified recovery based on agat's recovery. Try it out, you guys might like it.
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So I am still having a random disconnect wifi issues on Phantom Blazer rom just like the stock FF18 from sprint
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Its probably just kernel related or router issue, been running blu kuban ics which is touchwiz based and never had a wifi issue. The kernel is sourced build by rujeluss22 with it's own modified recovery based on agat's recovery. Try it out, you guys might like it.
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This is not a router issue, unless it effects every router I've connected to since changing to ICS. (dozens)
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Anybody found a possible solution yet? I've never had this issue on sprint's stock GB. Currently running Blazer AGAT 0.4.0
Haven't had any problems with this setup. overall ff18 sucks for many of us.
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Haven't had any problems with this setup. overall ff18 sucks for many of us.
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So you think it's the modem? Is the modem even responsible for WiFi? I though it was responsible for cell connection only
Just wondering if you guys are sticking to GB and why. I've tried FF18 and it's okay. CM9 is amazing but I don't think its solid like EL29 (IMO). But overall CM9 is solid. No flaming but I want to hear what you guys think.
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Still on el29 blazer rom until something can budge me from wanting to flash.
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Sucking on Call's EL29 for the battery life and lack of bugs.
None of the ICS builds last me a whole work day. GB gives me a consistent 18 - 36 hours depending on usage.
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Back to the one truly perfect rom (Calk's EL29) for me, too. I've tried ICS in many flavors (Calk's, mijj's, Phantom's) and they all have various issues. Be it poor battery life, MMS not working, audio bugs, Pandora not playing, GPS not locking, whatever, ICS sucks on the E4GT. The only ICS ROM that I've had any success with was CM9, but I use AllShare almost daily so that isn't a go for me.
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I'm trying to decide between EL29 and CM9.
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I'm on Calkulins El 29 myself I'm staying here until ICS is worked out, and the phone will work itself out eventually, trust the devs since the source kernel has been put out, slowly but surely we will see battery life improvements among the many other things!
Haha thats a trip ...yeah el29 is a solid build ...to be honest i like ginger bread...running calks 3.0
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Went to cm9 and probably won't return to a stock ish Rom any time soon. Have had great results with latest nightly and kernel from source combo.
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I dont get how you all are having issues with ICS Ive used ROMs from Venum, and other members of Team Venum. Using Dazed's Wicked Sensation 1.5 now. Great battery life, plenty fast for me. I did change the Kernel and modem to FF02 though. seems to work best for my phone. Ive used Blend, Blu Kuban, Anakonda, Boa, ICE, AOKP, CM9, Frankenstein's ego. Never had an issue with any of them. Well... except for not flashing AOKP right a couple times. Got it figured out fairly quickly Even running Placebo tweaks and havent had issues at all. One thing or another may not work on one ROM or another. but always found a work around for them. Im just learning all this stuff though. Havent really gotten in to the meat an potatos of it all yet. But Im learning.
Anyways... long answer just to say I Love ICS. Cant wait to try Jellybean.
Back to Calk's 3.0
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I love ics but the horrible speeds I encounter with my bandwidth brought me back to gb. I tried everything to get descent speeds and ended up losing the battle. Even resorted going back to stock ota and bringing the phone to Sprint so they could look at it. GB is the place to be for me and my bandwidth. I just wish the forum would branch sub cats for ics and GB users so I don't have to scroll for 20 mins looking for old GB roms
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Back to Calk's 3.0
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I can't flash calks 3.0 what modem should I be flashing? I'm in stock rooted el.29 what directions should I be doing? I tried today and soft bricked my phone and had to odin back to rooted .29
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ICS reminds me of Windows ME! It was just not a finished product, and with Jelly bean in the very near future, it's shaping up to be just like it. Ics needs that shot in the arm that it lacked for smoothness and other things. All i can say is BUTTER! ! !
On Calk 3.0. Considering a switch to CM9.
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I can't flash calks 3.0 what modem should I be flashing? I'm in stock rooted el.29 what directions should I be doing? I tried today and soft bricked my phone and had to odin back to rooted .29
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Did you install cwm? also try to redownload it. But to a PC. Transfer to the sd card and reboot into recovery do the wipe thing and install reboot and enjoy
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On caulk 3.0 buttery smooth baby
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Calks 3.0 tweaked out
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ICS reminds me of Windows ME! It was just not a finished product, and with Jelly bean in the very near future, it's shaping up to be just like it. Ics needs that shot in the arm that it lacked for smoothness and other things. All i can say is BUTTER! ! !
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Oh and let's not forget vista since we are going there. Even google stated in there press conference when they announced jb the all around goal was to smooth out the os and tighten everything up. I pray we get it!
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I like stock experience (EL29) but since kernel source (ICS) dropped I gave it another chance to my favorite REAL ROM CyanogenMod9 7/21 from chris41g with his source kernel 2.5 so far excellent. (All the issues I had disappeared with the source kernel)
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Calkulin's EL29 2.8.1 specifically. I liked that older version better than 2.9.x's
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Did you install cwm? also try to redownload it. But to a PC. Transfer to the sd card and reboot into recovery do the wipe thing and install reboot and enjoy
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Yes I have rogue clockwork and no go
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I'm... really confused. Someone please enlighten me.
Because the EVO was made for GB ROMS. The hardware is compatible with GB.
You can load a custom ICS or JB ROM from the many available here but I don't think they have HWA. They are also not 4G compatible and if you have good 4G in your area then it does not make any sense as to why you would go with a non 4G ROM. Also, FFC and a bunch of other stuff does not work with ICS or GB. The processing power of the EVO is also a little weak for the animations of ICS or JB.
^ This.
Perhaps if HTC had ever released the source code for the drivers for things like 4G and the FFC, ICS and JB ROM's would be more popular and more people would use them. As it stands now, Gingerbread doesn't have any of the above issues-it just works, plain and simple.
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Because pretty much everything works. No lag and like HD2FORNICK said, this phone, by hardware, is designed for GB
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Because the EVO was made for GB ROMS. The hardware is compatible with GB.
You can load a custom ICS or JB ROM from the many available here but I don't think they have HWA. They are also not 4G compatible and if you have good 4G in your area then it does not make any sense as to why you would go with a non 4G ROM. Also, FFC and a bunch of other stuff does not work with ICS or GB. The processing power of the EVO is also a little weak for the animations of ICS or JB.
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Ics and JB don't have hard ware acceleration?
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ICS and JB certainly do. But not for this phone. Drivers have to be compiled to specific hardware. To do that, the ROM maker will either need to build the driver from scratch, or have the source code and make modifications. HTC never released the source code for the drivers, so no hw accel for ICS and JB. You cant use the same drivers across two different OSes, even for the same harware. Oh well...
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Uhhh its a cell phone why wouldn't I want every feature working
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ICS and JB certainly do. But not for this phone. Drivers have to be compiled to specific hardware. To do that, the ROM maker will either need to build the driver from scratch, or have the source code and make modifications. HTC never released the source code for the drivers, so no hw accel for ICS and JB. You cant use the same drivers across two different OSes, even for the same harware. Oh well...
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But then why does ICS and JB run games and apps better
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Ics has hwa. Some other things r broken like 4g and ffc but hwa has been working for a long time
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I was gonna say the same thing about HWA. Hey papa is it possible of seeing HWA on GB roms?
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I was gonna say the same thing about HWA. Hey papa is it possible of seeing HWA on GB roms?
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I don't really know much about gb. So I don't want to say something that'll make me look stupid later...lol
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No need for hwa on gb. At op don't ***** to us. ***** to HTC to drop sources.
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I'm not a fan of GB ROMs but I do like sense. I dont mind the 4g part since I don't have it in my area. Still I keep switching between GB,ICS and JB. I have had good experience with the ICS ROMs I tried. JB ROMs is like ICS at the beginning with laggs and things not working but it gets better as time passes.
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Cuz gb just plain works.
No doubt, ice and jb are great, but just not functional enough for me. Like vid recording is choppy, which unfortunately is a deal breaker
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While all the ICS/JB roms are awesome, I came from the EVO shift to the EVO 4g for the bigger screen, and front camera. With the front camera broken on ICS and up, it is unfortunately a deal breaker. That is why I use gingerbread.
EVO 4G: Swagged Out with Swagged Out Stock+.
Try decks reloaded and you'll know why
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Decks Reloaded is amazing. It just flies and nothing ever FCs.
Even though I live in an area with great Wimax coverage, I never use it. It kills my battery so quickly. That's why I'm trying out an ICS ROM right now and I've also been trying out some JB ROMS. Had to drop JB because Bluetooth wouldn't work right in any of the ROMS I used.
Long story short, if it wasn't for the advanced notifications and status bar in ICS, I wouldn't ever use anything other than Decks Reloaded on my Evo 4g. Try it. It's so damn smooth.
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Because everything works on cm7.
Hdmi.ffc.gps.4g. Hw. Etc
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Try decks reloaded and you'll know why
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This
I haven't flashed much of anything for a while. Currently on CM10.0 and still on the EI22 modem. My phones been running sluggish and battery life is meh. Need a recommendation on a ROM and modem to give my epic a facelift. I want to get away from CM.
Thanks in advance.
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I haven't flashed much of anything for a while. Currently on CM10.0 and still on the EI22 modem. My phones been running sluggish and battery life is meh. Need a recommendation on a ROM and modem to give my epic a facelift. I want to get away from CM.
Thanks in advance.
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Plenty of choices now that you should read the threads. Flash the FC09 modem or research the NS4G modem. See which works best for you.
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Why get away from CM? IMO it's the apps rather than the ROM that counts more in battery consumption (unless you're comparing stock 2.3 to the battery of 4.2, hehe)
Personally CM10.1 is brilliant. No need to escape it, and aside from Avatar and MIUI V4 (very obsolete), mostly every ROM in the dev section look 60%~99% identical to CM (they're all AOSP, after all). If you want a facelift you could consider themes and mod packages.
As for modem... NS4G has really good reputation, though I hate swapping modems between nandroid restorations and stick to FC09.
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