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I live in NW Indiana (just outside of Chicago) and last night my service was so slow I could not even stream Spotify (with 3-bars on the 3g meter), when I tested with speedtest app I was getting +,- 100 kbps, is that what I can expect from my new carrier?
My phone is rooted with Blazer rom and shows baseband EG31 and Kernel EG30, is that ok or could I have messed up the modem? I tested at 4:40am this morning and got over 1 mbps....
I have noticed, I live in New York, a significant service downgrade in the past three months. My unfounded theory is that it has something to do with the Iphone launch, because service was great about 6 months ago. I had very few problems.
I've noticed the same thing here in Oak Park, CA (just a bit NW of LA), starting about a couple of months ago, on both my Photon and my Epic Touch. Sprint's 3G service has become terribly inconsistent and generally bad.
Its all over thats why im switching to verizon. The worst thing is the reps act like nothings wrong
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They keep saying the iphone isn't having any problems. I wonder if they are degrading android to male iphone look better. We are switching to Verizon when the contract is up.
Sprint might be doing work in your area. See map here: https://network.sprint.com/
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I live in NW Indiana (just outside of Chicago) and last night my service was so slow I could not even stream Spotify (with 3-bars on the 3g meter), when I tested with speedtest app I was getting +,- 100 kbps, is that what I can expect from my new carrier?
My phone is rooted with Blazer rom and shows baseband EG31 and Kernel EG30, is that ok or could I have messed up the modem? I tested at 4:40am this morning and got over 1 mbps....
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Same here, data sucks balls big time but voice so far has had no issues.
Its the dat part that is killing it. Yet we have to pay that extra 10 bucks a month just because its a smart phone aka data usage. What a joke.
Or maybe that extra 10 bucks is to pay for data usage for Carrier IQ... LOL
It's not really because of the iPhone, although that plays a small part in it. Sprint has just been lazy overall in maintaining and upgrading their network while the majority of customers have switched to smart phones
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Honestly, I think its just work being done on the network. I noticed the same thing, but 3 days ago I did a prl n profile update (I had done this several times before) n started getting much better service, including 4g. I'm not saying g this is the case for everyone. If you do jump ship, have fun with Verizon. I dealt with them for years before sprint. And if you think sprints customer service is bad. . . Also their data prices are INSANE! but, Verizon does have a better network. TO ME, being able to stream my music collection without worrying about data is more important than being able to watch a movie on 3g, but thats why we get choices if sprint was right for everyone, Verizon wouldn't be in business, and its the same the other way around
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When I go within 100ft of the tower I use in my home in Toledo I get full signal strength and peek speeds of 100 kbps, sprint really needs to get on that. Then again in Cleveland I get 1mbit+.
Sprints network is really unstable right now so its probably not the best time to sign a contract with them if you use a lot of data.
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....the IPhone effect maybe? My 4g has been better lately.
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Just keeping checking the website that was posted before. We are making a lot of updates and changes to make the network better. I have seen better improvement myself and know more are coming. The next two years are going to have a better and faster network. Remember that the USA is huge so it does take time. The other thing to do is preach to everyone to use wifi whenever they can so that there are less phones on the network until the project is completed in 2013!
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I have noticed these slow speeds, buy within the last week, it has improved. I was driving down the highway and was hitting 1600kbs on 3G!!
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Yup lots of variables.
each site can handle only so many people. Older sites have overall capacity issues. Thats to say some sites can handle x amount of users, and x amount of data. Some sites get user upgrades to handle more users but not data, causing a super slow down.
Then theres the issue of interference. Add in any issues your device might be having due to flashing a custom rom, kernel or modem and it all adds up to way to many possibilities.
The good news is, you verified your modem is good, not only did you get slow data speeds one test, but later it was good.
I have a similar experience with my Stock Epic Touch.
Some locations in Dallas, TX have horrible data speeds, while others are hit and miss.
One of the worse i am aware of is the are of i635 / hwy 80. Ever weekend i meet my dad for lunch at a BBQ place in that area. I test every weekend and the speeds are SOO SLOW. But once i leave the area im back to 1meg or so..
Overall i am still happy. I am just patient i guess.
yap service absolutely sucks, that's why I have started using the ROAM method and hopefully within a couple of months sprint will let me leave at no cost.
I think the implementation of "Network Vision" is going to cause things to get worse before they get better in many areas.
I live in NW Indiana as well and this is how it normally is
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i live in orange county NY the army bases in los all. I get 1-2 MB down on 3g and 4g on most of the area ranging from 4.5-11mb down. Its really spotty in some areas though. I can honestly sit in the my bed sometimes and get like 100kb down
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I live in NW Indiana (just outside of Chicago) and last night my service was so slow I could not even stream Spotify (with 3-bars on the 3g meter), when I tested with speedtest app I was getting +,- 100 kbps, is that what I can expect from my new carrier?
My phone is rooted with Blazer rom and shows baseband EG31 and Kernel EG30, is that ok or could I have messed up the modem? I tested at 4:40am this morning and got over 1 mbps....
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I was up in Michigan City last month for 4 days (Mother in Law and Wife's Grandma live there) and was in and around Hammond and Valpo as well. I got much better speeds than that with my EG4T. The 3G in MC was actually superior to the 3G down here in DFW, although they don't seem to have 4G...
I was running Caulkin's 1.0 at the time, and it was pretty nice up there.
I was in a sprint store and the woman turned off my 4g switch and told me to not use it because we don't have 4g in my city. She said we only have 3g (crappy towers at that). Is it possible only larger cities have 4g? I've even attempted to find maps of where the 3g towers were in my city to see if I could test the connectivity but there's nothing offered. I'm honestly not sure what to do.
Check out sprint.com they have a map that overlays all there locations with 3g and 4g and what not. short answer to your question is yes. 4g is pretty limited to major US cities and even then not the whole cities. Over time they should get more coverage but we'll see how switching to lte over WiMax plays out.
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I live in the US - Raleigh NC area, they have pretty decent coverage here. But seeing as I just got my phone and Sprint about 3 weeks ago I can't talk about travel at a distance. Stormglove is right, check out sprints web site.
There are like 3 towers with wimax in the whole state of Arizona but Phoenix is the 5th largest city in the nation... Go figure
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I live in Louisville, KY. Apparently there are like 2 WiMax towers here. Connection is pretty poor though, even within range of WiMax I can get repeated connects and disconnects.
I dont get how they can even advertise 4g for Sprint. The amount of towers they currently have deployed probably dont even cover 10% of the usa i bet. Theres 1 tower in my state i beleive and its not even on the sqme island as me :-( they should advertise it as such.. "sprint, slow ass 3g and 4g thats probably not even within distance of a IBM missel" cause there 4g is a fricken joke
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I get great 4g in NYC 5MB/sec (in my house which is practically a dead zone for ALL phones >_>{LUCKY ME!!!!}) and 10MB/sec+ outside my house. hopefully LTE shows better results for the rest of sprint users. =(
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There are like 3 towers with wimax in the whole state of Arizona but Phoenix is the 5th largest city in the nation... Go figure
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Us Mexicans can't build there.. we are not allowed in Arizona... duh!
I would just test it. I live in Prescott, Arizona, and according to sprint.com there isn't a 4g tower for miles and miles. However, on average I get 3 bars of 4g n a connection speed of about 12 mbps. So I would just flip it on every now and then and see
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Well in the case of when i was in Gurnee Ill around thanksgiving they actually lost 4g.
Thanksgiving 2010 they had 4g while i was down there, Thanksgiving 2011 they no longer had 4g the week i was down there...
Strange...
i get 4g in philadelphia... although as i go about town i'd say reception is spotty at best. if i'm in a good spot 4g blazes. if i'm in a car or certain areas, it's nil.
on another note, i think wimax is more or less dead on the water? there will be no more or few towers invested in by sprint since they want to be on lte by 2013. i could be recalling this info inaccurately; also since they piggyback off clear's wimax that doesn't mean clear will cease expanding their market - but i'm not sure about any of this, so take this post as speculation.
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I would just test it. I live in Prescott, Arizona, and according to sprint.com there isn't a 4g tower for miles and miles. However, on average I get 3 bars of 4g n a connection speed of about 12 mbps. So I would just flip it on every now and then and see
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I love that area and try to get up to oak creek canyon at least 3 or 4 times a year in summer
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Just go to clear.com and check the coverage map to see tower locations for your area since sprint is using them for their 4g coverage
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Just go to clear.com and check the coverage map to see tower locations for your area since sprint is using them for their 4g coverage
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I wonder how accurate that map is, as i supposedly have 4g.
But its sparatic at best...
Although i suppose sparatic means coverage in that area.
I would consider sprint's 4g more limited in market area's meaning most major markets but not all. Im just outside nashville, tn (not a major market) and its here & have been since june of 2010 but coverage is more spotty than anything. I work in a all glass building and its up and down like a roller coaster trying to get it to stay connected vs switching to 3g. In my home it wont even connect to 4g but not a big deal to me. Personally i would have done some research to see which area's its in b/c paying $10 for premium data isnt quite getting your money's worth in a non 4g area.
To the comment about not covering more than 10 percent of the country. It is probably a lot less than that even. But, since 80 percent of our country lives in urban environments it doesn't matter.
You won't get any type of 4G when your cruising down I-70 in BFE. But, it works fine in St. Louis or Kansas City. Even on a bigger carrier you have a similar problem.
*I posted this over on Androidcentral to get more input.. I wanted to see a broad idea of the people getting good/bag 4g.
(Don't know if this falls in question or general discussion, seeing as it is discussing)
Hello everyone. Anyone in the Miami area or near Miami, Florida, getting good or bad 4G.?
Well on my 2nd GNexus here with bad 4g (no 4g or flakey 4g) Tried 4.0.2 -> 4.0.4. radios.
I get 1 bar for 5 minutes and boom it's gone till I reboot or sim card pull, tried a new sim card as well.
Just seeing what kind of 4g people are getting in my area.
Thanks.
yea it really sucks down here. theirs only a few places were ive gotten full 4G bars
Welcome to the club.
It is pathetic in East Phoenix-Metro, AZ. As I type this, my nexus has NO data whatsoever and it has been going in and out frequently. Today was quite embarrassing as well, for when I was in school, I needed to pull up a Google Doc on my phone, BUT what was my connection? GREY BAR NO DATA! Verizon, I pay you in excess of $100 dollars a month and this is what I get? What was that again, Most reliable 3G and 4G networks?????
Phoenix was one of the first cities in the US to get LTE on Verizon, and now I am wondering why the first has to be the last in reliability.
I've been using my GSM Nexus in Miami for over two weeks and everything's been fine so far. T-Mobile doesn't have great signal strength indoors, but I've had that issue with every phone I've had with them. I'm about to switch to StraightTalk using AT&T's network so I'll let you know how it goes, but no problems to speak of so far!
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similar issues in Chicago area....no data, greyed out 4g, etc. i also have mifi and that had issues connecting as well
Verizon....the new ATT.
4g is out in Washington DC also.
Same here in Minneapolis
No 4G in NYC this morning. Besides not having data, service been terrible here in the city since I switch from at&t last week , I usually get 40mbs here in my house on At&t, I get 5mbs on Verizon LTE sucks plus I have not seen full bars on the phone yet. Is it the phone or just how the service is? I still got a week until my 14 days return period. What to do
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I used my LTE Toggle to turn 4g off and I picked up a 3g signal after about 30 seconds. 3g now holding fine.
No 4G in Pittsburgh, PA. Oh Verizon, you silly people and your "improving the network".
I can't even get 3g.
San diego. 4g is out. Intermittent 3g
Edit: cdma
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It's a sign from the universe the day I was going to switch from AT&T to Verizon it goes down. Curse you AT&T I shall stay with you.
Upstate NY and 4G is out. AC just did a story on it.
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Great 4g and 3g (full bars) here in the middle of nowhere (Lincoln, NE). Speed test app getting 40mbps down and 30mbps up.
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im in miami
i live near the airport area. data is working fine here
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Upstate NY and 4G is out. AC just did a story on it.
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Got it back!
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Got it back!
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4g was out this morning, got some 3g, but now its back i guess.
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Experiencing some issues downloading those expense reports via your Verizon LTE device this morning? You're not alone. We've received reports of data outages in Indianapolis, Milwaukee, Phoenix, Pennsylvania and Ohio. We've reached out to VZW to find out what the issue is, and as soon as and we know more we'll post it right here. For now, let us know if your LTE is letting you down in the comments below.
Update: Via Twitter, Verizon states "VZW is investigating customer issues in connecting to the 4GLTE data network. 3G data, voice and text services are operating reliably." However, we're hearing reports that 3G is down for customers as well in some areas.
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No 4G in NYC this morning. Besides not having data, service been terrible here in the city since I switch from at&t last week , I usually get 40mbs here in my house on At&t, I get 5mbs on Verizon LTE sucks plus I have not seen full bars on the phone yet. Is it the phone or just how the service is? I still got a week until my 14 days return period. What to do
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It's a mix of both. For example, I come from a Droid Razr Maxx and that thing had amazing signal and held 4G just fine. But sometimes Verizon could be derpy, atleast not for me though.
So after reading all these replies (thanks guys) seems like its a widespread problem.
edit: Oh what a coincidence, my 4G problems lined up with this outage, but no guys my issues of no 4g, are seperate outage or not sadly
Anyone having same issues the 3g speeds are horrible
Im on my SG3
My speeds have been varying.
Sometimes I'll be at 1900kbps which is good but then it'll drop down to a piss-poor 1000kbps sometimes, even when it's midnight and nobody is using it.
Chicago is a particularly bad market for Sprint data. Luckily for you though, that means that Chicago is one of the first cities to get Network Vision. The process is well underway there now. All of the exurbs and some of the suburbs have many of their towers upgraded. There is an incompatibility issue between the old equipment and the new equipment, so handoffs for data, and especially voice, have a high failure rate. So things have been getting worse rather than better. Because of that unforseen issue, Sprint is speeding up the rollout in Chicago.
Expect LTE and good 3G to come within the next few months.
My speeds are horrible one of my buddies just got sprint to waive the etf he couldnt make a call for 2 days here are my speeds
Im on my SG3
Here's mine
Northwest of Chicago
I checking to see if any LTE towers where putting out anything
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Chicago is a bad area for att due to density of population just kills att. It's sad when I go there for a week every year, outside that city I like att.
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Arent we a sprint forum ?? But yes att sucks in chicago
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I guess just reiterating what a few others have said, but Network Vision is the culprit here. It's not like Sprint's service was great in Chicago before, but it's been horrid over the past few months. However, once the Chicago rollout is complete, I believe it'll be the best coverage in the area by far.
You just gotta stick with it a little while longer. Some people report that calling them up and explaining what's going on will get you a discount on your bill.
I'm right by the Loyola campus on Sheridan. In my apt I don't receive calls at all. And texts come extremely late. After dealing with techs for days in and out they finally are crediting my account 25 bucks a month for 4 months. Wow. This sucks.
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i was in joliet this weekend for a fam party
and i was getting 2.43 mb in 3g and that was nice i wonde rif network vision has to do with it anyone in joliet noticed that and also im going to call see if they credit me
After getting tired of the lack of data connection issues at sprint I jumped over to T-Mobile. While I'm sure it will be a better experience than I had at sprint, I would like to know how all your experiences have been
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I love it man. I've never lost service. I live in Dayton Ohio and there's 4G LTE everywhere here.
Didn't realize how bad Sprint is until I switched to T-Mobile last year......
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So far my phone hasn't dropped to 3g yet. I think I like this
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I do a lot of traveling for work and I used to be a Sprint subscriber as well. I will say that while T-Mobile's speeds are definitely better, Sprint has a better overall network IMO. I often find myself either struggling to find T-Mobile signal, Roaming on AT&T (If it even lets me), or I'm forced to deal with horrible 2G speeds (GPRS). Outside of major cities the majority of the coverage areas are 2G whereas on Sprint it is mostly 3G because if you had to roam you were on Verizon. If you thought Sprint's 3G was slow, wait until you experience T-Mobile's 2G lol.
If you generally reside in or around the larger cities then you have nothing to worry about. My experience is based on what I see everywhere I go... and I go to some pretty remote places and lots of smaller towns. Also, keep in mind that my experience with Sprint was before they implemented Spark and HD Voice, but being as a resident of San Antonio I did get to experience most of what their "Network Vision" had to offer.
As a matter of fact, the images in my signature were from when I was using Sprint. It was shortly after they first implemented LTE... And I lived approximately 45 miles outside of the city in the country. Those were some damn good speeds for being so far out, but I only lived about 1 mile from the tower lol. I only get 2G with T-Mobile out there and the 3G cuts off about 5 miles shy of that town. BUT, before switching to T-Mobile the Sprint speeds in that area had gone way down as more and more people got LTE phones. Last I checked, it was down to 7Mb/s Down and 2Mb/s Up.
Where I live north of San Francisco sprint had some areas of decent 4g but not at my house or at work. It also seems like the battery in my t mobile m8 lasts much longer. Maybe having a strong signal helps
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Where I live north of San Francisco sprint had some areas of decent 4g but not at my house or at work. It also seems like the battery in my t mobile m8 lasts much longer. Maybe having a strong signal helps
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Did you use an M8 on Sprint too?
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Did you use an M8 on Sprint too?
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Yeah.
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former sprint customer, totally thrilled with T Mobile in the Chicago area...Even though Chicago was one of the first places with Sprint's "new" network, we left them 6 months ago when my wife and son couldn't even make phone calls from our house with their M7 phones; ever since we went TMO, we've never dropped a call anywhere in Chicagoland, data speeds are great, and their customer service has been fantastic for us.
towards the end of having sprint, we definitely noticed a change in how they treated customers, obviously a new way of doing things brought over by their new owners...much less likely to issue credits for problems, and even had the nerve to charge us TAX on our cancellation fees!!
Sorry Sprint, NEVER again, and if you merge with TMO, we will leave for another option.
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I do a lot of traveling for work and I used to be a Sprint subscriber as well. I will say that while T-Mobile's speeds are definitely better, Sprint has a better overall network IMO. I often find myself either struggling to find T-Mobile signal, Roaming on AT&T (If it even lets me), or I'm forced to deal with horrible 2G speeds (GPRS). Outside of major cities the majority of the coverage areas are 2G whereas on Sprint it is mostly 3G because if you had to roam you were on Verizon. If you thought Sprint's 3G was slow, wait until you experience T-Mobile's 2G lol.
If you generally reside in or around the larger cities then you have nothing to worry about. My experience is based on what I see everywhere I go... and I go to some pretty remote places and lots of smaller towns. Also, keep in mind that my experience with Sprint was before they implemented Spark and HD Voice, but being as a resident of San Antonio I did get to experience most of what their "Network Vision" had to offer.
As a matter of fact, the images in my signature were from when I was using Sprint. It was shortly after they first implemented LTE... And I lived approximately 45 miles outside of the city in the country. Those were some damn good speeds for being so far out, but I only lived about 1 mile from the tower lol. I only get 2G with T-Mobile out there and the 3G cuts off about 5 miles shy of that town. BUT, before switching to T-Mobile the Sprint speeds in that area had gone way down as more and more people got LTE phones. Last I checked, it was down to 7Mb/s Down and 2Mb/s Up.
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Are you in La Vernia? If so T-Mobile will finally be upgrading the 2G to LTE in the next few months! I'm in San ANtonio too and hate that there is no LTE or 4G down 87 all the way until you hit Victoria.
I was with Sprint for about 12 years and just finally got fed up waiting for them to figure out how to get 4G rolled out properly, so I switched to TM when I purchased the M8 a few months ago.
Now that I'm on TM, I kick myself for not switching over sooner. With unlimited everything and the fact that 4G is so fast in my area, I don't even bother with switching on wifi. (I rarely stream video to the phone, so no real need for wifi)
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I love it man. I've never lost service. I live in Dayton Ohio and there's 4G LTE everywhere here.
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I'm here in beaver creek and I'm literally just outside of the coverage area, I get lte but 5mbs down and about 4 up. But out and about I'm finally getting up to about 26mbs down.
I was with Sprint for over 10 years, then about a year and a half ago i switched to T-Mobile. Im so glad i did. I live in a major metropolitan area so coverage is always good for me.
As others have mentioned living in suburbs or travelling might get you some dead spots. So try the network out and then make a final decision.
My m8 gets great reception but my Daughters iPhone 5s is not so good. I guess that's what she gets for using an iPhone....... Right
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in case anyone is curious about tmobile coverage in their area, they have a free, 7 day, "test drive" now, where they will let you use a iPhone for 7 days for free on their network, and you can see if their network meets your approval...
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Are you in La Vernia? If so T-Mobile will finally be upgrading the 2G to LTE in the next few months! I'm in San ANtonio too and hate that there is no LTE or 4G down 87 all the way until you hit Victoria.
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My family lives west of SA off HWY 90 in Castroville.
T-Mobiles network runs circles around Sprints! I was with sprint for the last 7 or 8 years and was tired of the "We are working on the towers in your area" excuse. I switched to T-Mobile back in February and got the Z1s and I plan on getting the M8 this week with the jump program. I had the M7 with sprint which was a great phone despite sprint's crappy network. I can't wait to be back with a htc phone!
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almost the same exact story from me; as far as leaving Sorint in February because of the horrible network issues.
did you get on tmo for the old jump, before feb 23rd?
I did, and have had a lg flex,(actually 3 of them), and I too can't wait to be back on a HTC phone, for a variety of reasons..
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almost the same exact story from me; as far as leaving Sorint in February because of the horrible network issues.
did you get on tmo for the old jump, before feb 23rd?
I did, and have had a lg flex,(actually 3 of them), and I too can't wait to be back on a HTC phone, for a variety of reasons..
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Yeah I got on around February 6th, what did they change after that?
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the "new" jump, for those that signed up after Feb 23rd, requires you to pay 1/2 of the outstanding balance on your "old" phone, before you can "jump" to a new one. You can do that as often as you want, but it will cost you 1/2 of the outstanding balance on your phone.
the "old" jump, that you and I are on, doesn't have that requirement; we can jump once after 6 months at no charge, and then jump a second time anytime within our first year at no extra charge as well..
I'm getting an M8 next week for my first jump, and then I will wait and see what comes out in the next few months and see; note 4, Sony Z3, htc one max M8, who knows what is coming between now and December..