I am doing what I can to conserve battery. I just got my S3 last night. I installed K9 because that is what I used on my previous Droids. I checked my battery info this morning and K9 is like 19%. I have it checking every 10 mins for new mail. Any of you know if the native app is push and does it draw off the battery as much?
Thanks!
Why every ten minutes, particularly when you (apparently) have the option of push?
I've never seen K9, properly configured (I normally use push), take more than 2-3% of battery use, even in e-mail-intense scenarios.
cause the option is there that says frequency with a time limit. I have to select something. Push isn't there.
I suppose it's possible that your mail provider doesn't support push (who is your mail provider?), but the frequency check isn't where the push setting is supposed to be. Look under Advanced in account settings for push settings; if that's set up properly (you will be able to see a "Push" next to the last time a mail folder was checked if so), you can disable normal polling altogether.
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I suppose it's possible that your mail provider doesn't support push (who is your mail provider?), but the frequency check isn't where the push setting is supposed to be. Look under Advanced in account settings for push settings; if that's set up properly (you will be able to see a "Push" next to the last time a mail folder was checked if so), you can disable normal polling altogether.
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Hmmm, so I just switched it to never and sent myself a test email to see if it comes in. That would be great if it works that way.
whats wrong with Google Gmail apps? its works great and wonderfully.
I have used k9 fit about a year and a half, generally have it at 30 minute poll interval but usually manually check for new mail about every 10. I get between 50 and 200 emails a day and k9 is never even close to showing up in the top 10 of my battery stats. Occasionally it will bug out and drain (about one a month or so) but a test cures this.
I would try to uninstall and reinstall if you are having regular issues with it. I have nothing but good things to say about this client, far better than any other i have tried.
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I am doing what I can to conserve battery. I just got my S3 last night. I installed K9 because that is what I used on my previous Droids. I checked my battery info this morning and K9 is like 19%. I have it checking every 10 mins for new mail. Any of you know if the native app is push and does it draw off the battery as much?
Thanks!
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I use K-9 with 2 imap accounts + gmail app and I can easily make 2 days on one charge.
I get the emails as soon as the server received them.
Are you using a pop account ?
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whats wrong with Google Gmail apps? its works great and wonderfully.
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How to you get it to work wonderfully with non-Gmail accounts? I have a non-Gmail IMAP account for work. As far as I can tell, the only way to use Gmail for this account is set up POP acesss to the account in Gmail. Using that approach, I get unacceptably long and and unpredictable delays in getting mail (typically a half hour to an hour). That doesn't work for me, which is unfornate because the stock emai app is utter crap.
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How to you get it to work wonderfully with non-Gmail accounts? I have a non-Gmail IMAP account for work. As far as I can tell, the only way to use Gmail for this account is set up POP acesss to the account in Gmail. Using that approach, I get unacceptably long and and unpredictable delays in getting mail (typically a half hour to an hour). That doesn't work for me, which is unfornate because the stock emai app is utter crap.
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Gmail app is only meant to receive mail from gmail. What people are talking about here only applies if you are using gmail. Afaik push is kind of supported on IMAP. Use the stock email app or k-9 to set it up that way.
Yes. I was trying to answer liquid's question about what us wrong with Gmail. The stock Samsung email does not support push (imap idle). I use Kaiten, which works pretty well.
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Yes. I was trying to answer liquid's question about what us wrong with Gmail. The stock Samsung email does not support push (imap idle). I use Kaiten, which works pretty well.
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Kaiten is on my list.. I definitely want to check it out, but just havent spent the $5 yet.
I'm on aokp jb. GPS on, Bluetooth always on. Always in 4g not lte. With Google including gmail etc to sync whenever gmail and calendar and that stuff does. Plus aokp lock screen weather and fancy widgets weather. I see a drain of about .75% an hour. The only time my battery drains is the moment I turn on the screen. I've noticed this with all android devices and too many people care about push and stuff. It doesn't make a difference IMO. Been on android since the g1 came out.
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I use k-9 with 2 POP accounts, one every 10 min and the other every 6 hours. After running the whole day it doesn't even show up in my battery list. The lowest one is media server at 1m 20s of CPU time and 2% of battery usage.
Low email volume today on those accounts so that's part of it, but I've never thought it was much of a drain. Once in a while I'll see it in the battery list, but I see the Gmail app in there more often.
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So I am wondering, is it a huge battery drain to use the direct push email function? I just flash a few days ago, and while I have only been thru about 4 cycles on my battery, when I set up my email I am using the exchange sync for email too from google.
Anyone know what is better on the battery? no email push and set up for checking for new email every 30 min or just have the direct push going?
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In the typical scenario, Push is WAY better for your battery juice, especially since you probably do not get mail all the time. For example, if you set the POP retrieval for every 30minutes, then you're going use juice every 30 minutes whether you have mail or not, because just popping your mail account is going to use juice. With push, you only use juice when there is mail.
On the other hand, if you get hundreds of messages a day, everyday, all day, then popping might be better since you could retrieve them in batches.
FWIW, I have 13 e-mail accounts. When I set my XV6800 to POP the maximum number of Outlook Mobile accounts, which is 6 (and that limit sucks, BTW) every 15 minutes, the battery didn't even make it to the end of the work day. When I went to a Push setup, even for ALL 13 accounts, that low battery problem went away.
Hope this helps.
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In the typical scenario, Push is WAY better for your battery juice, especially since you probably do not get mail all the time. For example, if you set the POP retrieval for every 30minutes, then you're going use juice every 30 minutes whether you have mail or not, because just popping your mail account is going to use juice. With push, you only use juice when there is mail.
On the other hand, if you get hundreds of messages a day, everyday, all day, then popping might be better since you could retrieve them in batches.
FWIW, I have 13 e-mail accounts. When I set my XV6800 to POP the maximum number of Outlook Mobile accounts, which is 6 (and that limit sucks, BTW) every 15 minutes, the battery didn't even make it to the end of the work day. When I went to a Push setup, even for ALL 13 accounts, that low battery problem went away.
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And how did you do that with 13 accounts?
lol. you can only have one email account configured to exchange at any one time!
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lol. you can only have one email account configured to exchange at any one time!
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I have 5 different e-mail addresses going to one google account (setup to exchange on my phone), so 13 isn't impossible.
Means i don't miss e-mails coz i forgot to check them.
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lol. you can only have one email account configured to exchange at any one time!
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Use google as your push account and then use the POP retrieval service in google to aggregate your other accounts.
My god Google will rule the world one day! I heard they have a feature coming soon called "Google Charging" that will be AWESOME! lol j/k
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In the typical scenario, Push is WAY better for your battery juice, especially since you probably do not get mail all the time. For example, if you set the POP retrieval for every 30minutes, then you're going use juice every 30 minutes whether you have mail or not, because just popping your mail account is going to use juice. With push, you only use juice when there is mail.
On the other hand, if you get hundreds of messages a day, everyday, all day, then popping might be better since you could retrieve them in batches.
FWIW, I have 13 e-mail accounts. When I set my XV6800 to POP the maximum number of Outlook Mobile accounts, which is 6 (and that limit sucks, BTW) every 15 minutes, the battery didn't even make it to the end of the work day. When I went to a Push setup, even for ALL 13 accounts, that low battery problem went away.
gHope this helps.
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so I thank you for your input, it makes sense what you are saying, I am one of the lucky ones ai only have a work email and only one personal email.
my battery is doing much better now after a week. I will stick with the push thill for a while.
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Are you saying that you previously were popping at intervals, and now you're pushing instead, and you see better battery life?
Interesting how the Help on the phone AND on Google's site says the exact opposite! Those morons who wrote that are either complete idiots or they're trying to steer us away from Push for some reason.
karandras24 said:
I have 5 different e-mail addresses going to one google account (setup to exchange on my phone), so 13 isn't impossible.
Means i don't miss e-mails coz i forgot to check them.
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Goes to show how thinking outside the box works wonders, doesn't it?
One thing I do NOT like about using Google for this is that they have a statement that says that they do not guarantee any intervals on their end on POPPING, so it often takes over an hour to receive an e-mail. Verizon's Wireless Sync does the same job but pops every 15 minutes.
I wonder if it would be different if I had the 3rd party accounts automatically forward copies of messages to the gmail accounts. Does Google handle directly sent messages faster?
Edit: Yep, setup my other accounts to forward to my gmail account, instead of having the gmail account POP the other accounts, and now I get pushes within seconds! Yeee-haaaw!
Hi;
I am the proud new owner of a DHD having just migrated from an iPhone 3G, this phone is just awesome but will take a heck of a lot of getting used to, its not a smart phone its a god dam technical revelation!!!
Anyway, I set up email (BT Yahoo), Facebook, Twirtter, Skype and created a Google Mail Account (Had to do download apps) but its not setup in mail yet.
After setting the above up I noticed that 3G was constantly on, is this normal?
Anyway my question is how do prevent Facebook et al from constantly syncing? On my iPhone they would only sync when I opened the application.
Also once an application has been opened how do I know / make sure that it is off, does simply switching to another screen switch it off or is it still running in the background using up batter charge?
Many thanks in advance.
Go to Settings / Accounts & syncs
Under there there is Auto-sync check box, you can check and select what to sync over there.
My question is How can I set Gmail check status on a random basis, once I check out Google it's immediatly push mail but I want it to check it i.e. every 4 hours.
How can I do that?
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My question is How can I set Gmail check status on a random basis, once I check out Google it's immediatly push mail but I want it to check it i.e. every 4 hours.
How can I do that?
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There's the option in the mail app I think. You can set two modes, for example 1h intervals during tha day and 4h at night etc.
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There's the option in the mail app I think. You can set two modes, for example 1h intervals during tha day and 4h at night etc.
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Yes but I am using Gmail app and it's directly Push mail but I want it to check mails every 4 hours.
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Yes but I am using Gmail app and it's directly Push mail but I want it to check mails every 4 hours.
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Oh yeah... Well that's a tricky one then I guess...
hi, just wondering if anyone uses K9 Mail for their Gmail instead of the native Gmail app? and if so, do you think K9 uses more battery, less battery, or about the same?
i was surprised to see that K9 supports a type of push notification, IMAP IDLE, and actually receives Gmail messages as fast or even faster than the native Gmail. i have turned off any kind of polling by the app, and still, it seems, maybe, to use more battery than Gmail..... anyone have any thoughts or experience with this?
I cannot comment on the battery consumption by K-9, as it doesn't show up anymore (in Froyo EB13) as one of the apps using a certain % of my battery.
What I did notice with the stock e-mail app on Eclair and K-9 in Froyo, is that it stops polling for e-mails all of a sudden, sometime - that's quite a risk. To have the app check e-mails again, it needs to be initiated manually when this happens. It is probably Android, which causes the issue. I mentioned this issue wondering what your observations are.
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Hmm, that's not good if it suddenly stops checking for mail. So far I have only used K9 on Eclair, and only for Gmail..... for this it worked great. With Gmail, it doesn't have to 'check' for mail, but rather sit there idly and have messages pushed to it when they arrive at the server..... I was amazed at how well this worked. I just upgraded to EB13 but haven't used K9 yet.
As for the stock email app, I wouldn't trust it at all, doesn't work very well from what I can tell..... even when manually checking for messages, it sometimes won't fetch them, or will take very long to do so. Sorry but that's all the experience I have with these, lol. When I did use K9 on Ecair, it would show up as using 4 or 5% of my battery, whereas I don't remember seeing Gmail showing up at all...... and, my battery just didn't seem to last as long when using K9, even when using push only.
Am I the only one who's disenchanted with the Gmail app on Android? I was hoping it would be better with my Nexus, but nothing has changed.
It doesn't seem like true push. If I set Gmail up as an exchange account in the mail app, it receives my e-mail and notifies me within seconds of sending a test message. The Gmail app randomly notifies me within about 15 minutes or so. Call me anal, but I like to receive my e-mail as soon as possible (sometimes it's important) and I don't see why there's a delay on the official Gmail app.
I know this has been an ongoing issue for some time with Android and my co-worker claims that he's perfectly happy just using the Gmail app, but my experience is that the Email client receives e-mail faster and that's important to me.
I've been using the gmail app for a while on 4 different devices (N1,G2,Sensation,GNex), and I've never noticed more than a couple second lag receiving emails. I have noticed something since 4.0.4 or possibly the latest gmail update. When I mark an email as read on my computer, the notification no longer clears itself on my phone. I have to manually clear it.
It can be strange, and in some cases frustrating. More often than not, my emails come really quick (as they should). There has been a few occurances where an email was delayed by several hours.
And it does seem as though the mail app works better than the gmail app for push email.
Edit: I only use the gmail app, but have used the mail app in the past.
Never had more than a 30 second delay personally.
See, my co-worker swears he doesn't notice a delay either, but I have tested it over and over. When I have notifications on for both the default e-mail client and Gmail, I will get a notification immediately from the e-mail client and nothing from Gmail. More troubling, when I open Gmail, the e-mail is not there yet. It's like it's on periodic check, instead of push.
Currently, I have notifications turned off for the Gmail app and use it to sync everything, then have Gmail set up as an exchange account and only have it pulling in e-mail (no contacts or calendar). It still seems a tad redundant, but its' the only way to ensure that I get my e-mail reliably.
I've not noticed any delay with using the app.
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No delays here either. I relay email from POP3 accounts to Gmail for the push functionality and it works flawlessly.
All good here too. Matches my desktop Gmail timing. Btw I love the Gmail app its the best damn email experience I've ever seen on a phone, I use it constantly.
I can't be the only one having this issue. Is it possible that no one here knows any different simply because they haven't tried it as an exchange account through the regular e-mail app? Again, I have had this issue on pretty much every Android phone I have owned. And I can duplicate it any time.
Would anyone care to add Gmail as an Exchange account through the e-mail app and then send themselves a test message? Let me know if you get it in both apps around the same time. In my case, it shows up instantly in the e-mail app and won't show up for several minutes in the Gmail app unless I push the sync button manually.
i've noticed delays too. really frustrating because i have no idea what can be done about it...
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i've noticed delays too. really frustrating because i have no idea what can be done about it...
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Nothing that I know of, because it only seems to affect a small percentage of users. I can find a few posts on the internet with other users complaining about the same issue, but most people who reply say they have no problem (just like this post). It makes me wonder if I created a completely new Gmail account and tied it to my phone, if I'd get e-mail instantly on that account.
Unfortunately, that's not an option. I've had this address for years.
How long is your delay, less than a minute? I send myself a test email from my corp work email and it comes thru in less than a minute.
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How long is your delay, less than a minute? I send myself a test email from my corp work email and it comes thru in less than a minute.
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The delay varies. Sometimes it's instant, other times it's anywhere from a 5-15 minute delay. I always get the e-mails instantly in the e-mail app when Gmail is set up as an exchange account.
The moral of the story is, it's not reliable. I can never count on getting my e-mail in a timely manner in the Gmail app.
Sign in to the Google Talk application and make sure you're always signed in. I believe that the gTalk-connection is used for push-messages, so if you're signed in into gTalk, push should work.
I also had the delay once, after I restored a backup of the gmail data after a factory reset(actually, yakjuxw -> yakju). I deleted the gmail data and re-configured it. That fixed the problem for me.
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Sign in to the Google Talk application and make sure you're always signed in. I believe that the gTalk-connection is used for push-messages, so if you're signed in into gTalk, push should work.
I also had the delay once, after I restored a backup of the gmail data after a factory reset(actually, yakjuxw -> yakju). I deleted the gmail data and re-configured it. That fixed the problem for me.
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I'm glad you mentioned this. I have the gmail issue (won't ever recieve push email...have to manually sync) AND I cannot sign into GTalk from my phone.
I wish I could fix.
Sorry to revive a dead thread, but was there ever a resolution to this? I'm having the exact same problem on my HTC One X (AT&T).
Gmail or Gtalk delays are due to router (firewall issues). Just forward the necessary Google ports, and you'll be good to go.
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Gmail or Gtalk delays are due to router (firewall issues). Just forward the necessary Google ports, and you'll be good to go.
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This occurs when I'm connected to AT&T's lte network too
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I am struggling with this issue as well
Me too, lately it's been brutal for me
About a month to a month and a half ago, I developed this problem on my Email(not Gmail) app set up for my Exchange account: mail would occasionally not be pushed automatically and I would have to open the email app to fetch all the emails. There is no pattern that I am able to figure out when this automatic push does not work. Sometimes mail gets pushed and everything works great but at other times i would have gotten 6-7 emails and none would have gotten pushed. Rebooting the phone temporarily fixes this. First I thought this was a server side problem so I downloaded Touchdown(trial version) and had it run on the same account alongside. Touchdown is able to show all emails as they are pushed whereas sometimes the native email app fails to do so. Gmail is also able to push emails to my Gmail app at all times without any problems. Touchdown interface is ok but I actually like the stock email interface a whole lot better. Anything I can do to fix this?
Currently running android 4.2.
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Anything I can do to fix this?
Currently running android 4.2.
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This behaviour is new for JB. The stock email app requires sync to be on to actually poll, or even push like it should. Having never been a "syncer", I was fearful of awful battery at first, but this isn't the case. With two email accts on push, and the Gmail app syncing, it doesn't drain battery like you'd think. Just uncheck the elements for each account that you don't want synced.
There are quite a few reports of this on Google Code; the recommendation is to enable sync 9 times out of 10, assuming all the server settings are correct, etc... I turn off sync from 22:00 to 06:00, but other than that, it's on.
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This behaviour is new for JB. The stock email app requires sync to be on to actually poll, or even push like it should. Having never been a "syncer", I was fearful of awful battery at first, but this isn't the case. With two email accts on push, and the Gmail app syncing, it doesn't drain battery like you'd think. Just uncheck the elements for each account that you don't want synced.
There are quite a few reports of this on Google Code; the recommendation is to enable sync 9 times out of 10, assuming all the server settings are correct, etc... I turn off sync from 22:00 to 06:00, but other than that, it's on.
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Thanks but battery life has been surprisingly very good on my GNexus and all accounts are set to push at all times. How do I enable sync just 9 out of 10 times. Can you give me a link to this on Google code? Thanks again!
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Thanks but battery life has been surprisingly very good on my GNexus and all accounts are set to push at all times. How do I enable sync just 9 out of 10 times. Can you give me a link to this on Google code? Thanks again!
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I was saying that the answer 9/10 times is enabling sync.
Settings > Data Usage > menu button > Auto-sync data.
Don't have the links handy any longer.
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I was saying that the answer 9/10 times is enabling sync.
Settings > Data Usage > menu button > Auto-sync data.
Don't have the links handy any longer.
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Thanks. I checked and it looks like autosync has been enabled on my phone. Hoping there is something else I can do to have my exchange emails pushed.... Wonder what they changed in JB that did this. Is there a way to delete the email.apk for JB and install the email.apk from ICS?
anyone else?