With all this OTA talk, I've been getting many questions about accepting and OTA while stock rooted.
IF you are stock rooted, you can't get an OTA update because you most likely have a custom recovery installed (Clockworkmod).
To accept this OTA, you will need to install the STOCK recovery.
Please see this video to flash the stock recovery:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KeZx65twLk
The video linked above also shows how to manually update your phone with the appropriate update zip file.
Once you have accepted the OTA update while stock rooted with stock recovery, you will most likely need to re root. Re root with this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoEVDgjTTdg
qbking77 said:
With all this OTA talk, I've been getting many questions about accepting and OTA while stock rooted.
IF you are stock rooted, you can't get an OTA update because you most likely have a custom recovery installed (Clockworkmod).
To accept this OTA, you will need to install the STOCK recovery.
Please see this video to flash the stock recovery:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KeZx65twLk
The video linked above also shows how to manually update your phone with the appropriate update zip file.
Once you have accepted the OTA update while stock rooted with stock recovery, you will most likely need to re root. Re root with this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoEVDgjTTdg
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What I have done in the past is use OTA Rootkeeper. Backup root, then uninstall root. After the update use it to reroot with one tap.
poit said:
What I have done in the past is use OTA Rootkeeper. Backup root, then uninstall root. After the update use it to reroot with one tap.
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thanks man
Can anyone else confirm the ease of use with this "OTA rootkeeper"???
meccadon123 said:
thanks man
Can anyone else confirm the ease of use with this "OTA rootkeeper"???
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OTA rootkeeper worked for me. If you have mobile odin that works great too. newest one will patch the ota so you can install it.
meccadon123 said:
thanks man
Can anyone else confirm the ease of use with this "OTA rootkeeper"???
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billard412 said:
OTA rootkeeper worked for me. If you have mobile odin that works great too. newest one will patch the ota so you can install it.
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Both have worked super easily for me with no problems!!!
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qbking77 said:
With all this OTA talk, I've been getting many questions about accepting and OTA while stock rooted.
IF you are stock rooted, you can't get an OTA update because you most likely have a custom recovery installed (Clockworkmod).
To accept this OTA, you will need to install the STOCK recovery.
Please see this video to flash the stock recovery:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KeZx65twLk
The video linked above also shows how to manually update your phone with the appropriate update zip file.
Once you have accepted the OTA update while stock rooted with stock recovery, you will most likely need to re root. Re root with this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoEVDgjTTdg
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will this work for the new update as well?
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I just got the OTA ICS update sent to my phone. As of now it is rooted but on stock rom. My question is I have team Rogue custom recovery. Is that the same as clockwork mod and do I need to restore it back to stock recovery before I accept the ota update? thanks!
You can use sfhub's auto root tool to check if your ROM is compliant. If it isn't, it will fail the update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
Why don't you just use sfhub's one click FF18 with root. You need to be on stock el29 to accept the update. If not it will fail.
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cphil99 said:
I just got the OTA ICS update sent to my phone. As of now it is rooted but on stock rom. My question is I have team Rogue custom recovery. Is that the same as clockwork mod and do I need to restore it back to stock recovery before I accept the ota update? thanks!
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Thanks for the help. I was able to revert back to stock recovery but now when trying to update either ota or manual it gets stuck on the triangle with the android a few seconds into the update. I've tried renaming the file to "update" as instructed in the video and not renaming. Same result. Any suggestions guys?
cphil99 said:
Thanks for the help. I was able to revert back to stock recovery but now when trying to update either ota or manual it gets stuck on the triangle with the android a few seconds into the update. I've tried renaming the file to "update" as instructed in the video and not renaming. Same result. Any suggestions guys?
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I'm having the same issue.
Edit: I got it. I installed it in the folder not the root of the sd card.
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cphil99 said:
Thanks for the help. I was able to revert back to stock recovery but now when trying to update either ota or manual it gets stuck on the triangle with the android a few seconds into the update. I've tried renaming the file to "update" as instructed in the video and not renaming. Same result. Any suggestions guys?
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If you get the the triangle, press the "Menu" capacitative button and it will show the log.
Most likely you modified or removed some ROM file or your update.zip is corrupt.
Usually folks remove some bloat way back when and forgot they did it.
If you are still rooted, you could run Auto Root Option E, OTA Compliance Check EL29->FF18 and it will tell you everything that will cause the OTA update to fail.
As an aside, the previous posters are correct and it is probably easier if you just use the FF18 ODIN OneClick.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229
The Official FF18 OTA will not run under CWM or CWM-Rogue because when it goes to verify the integrity of the kernel, it will find it is different than what it was expecting.
I have a rooted FF18 OTA that will install from CWM if you want to go that route:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771799
I got it!
sfhub said:
If you get the the triangle, press the "Menu" capacitative button and it will show the log.
Most likely you modified or removed some ROM file or your update.zip is corrupt.
Usually folks remove some bloat way back when and forgot they did it.
If you are still rooted, you could run Auto Root Option E, OTA Compliance Check EL29->FF18 and it will tell you everything that will cause the OTA update to fail.
As an aside, the previous posters are correct and it is probably easier if you just use the FF18 ODIN OneClick.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229
The Official FF18 OTA will not run under CWM or CWM-Rogue because when it goes to verify the integrity of the kernel, it will find it is different than what it was expecting.
I have a rooted FF18 OTA that will install from CWM if you want to go that route:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771799
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That did it! I just downloaded and ran the new Odin file and it worked like a charm with no loss of data. Thank you so much for you help!
Thanks for helping out an Android noob. I recently rooted and installed CWM recovery. This is my first OTA update since doing so and I haven't been able to find any clear instructions on what to do.
I assume there are a few options - I'd love to hear what they are and what advantages/disadvantages each has. I'm assuming I can unroot and go totally stock but I'm not really sure how to flash a stock recovery. I've also read that using OTA Rootkeeper is a great way to temp unroot then reroot after the OTA. I'm a little confused since I see a similar option in the SuperUser app - does that work as well?
I also am wondering if there will be a CWM flashable package in the near future that we can use and if it's worth waiting for something like that?
Thanks again.
There's a thread here discussing the OTA and how people are installing it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1893036
I am running rooted stock (without CWM) and I simply used Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper and then did the update. Since you have CWM, I think you've got a few additional steps.
rickwood said:
There's a thread here discussing the OTA and how people are installing it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1893036
I am running rooted stock (without CWM) and I simply used Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper and then did the update. Since you have CWM, I think you've got a few additional steps.
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Thanks but I've been following that thread - there aren't any instructions just comments on personal situations. I'm sure there are many like me who need a bit of a guide for this specific situation. It definitely sounds easier without CWM - I'm surprised I can't find any clear instructions on how to revert to stock recovery.
You can get the OTA as long as your are running a stock ROM! or worst case scenario you just have to update through Kies!!
Use odin to install stock rooted image and recovery. Then get voodoo ota rootkeeper from the play store. Run it to preserve root. Check for software update. Install update. Restore root with rootkeeper. Reinstall custom recovery. Done.
kjpedro said:
You can get the OTA as long as your are running a stock ROM! or worst case scenario you just have to update through Kies!!
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From what I understand you need to unroot to get the OTA - though Kies might be a workaround.
I'm specifically talking about rooted WITH CWM. You cannot get the OTA without stock recovery (based on what I've read).
gunnyman said:
Use odin to install stock rooted image and recovery. Then get voodoo ota rootkeeper from the play store. Run it to preserve root. Check for software update. Install update. Restore root with rootkeeper. Reinstall custom recovery. Done.
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Thanks gunny! Do you lose apps/settings when flashing back to stock rooted/recovery or is everything preserved?
Surprising to me nothing was lost.
Hey guys, for a while now I've been using a custom rom on my AT&T Galaxy S3, and due to some work obligations, I need to get back to the official rom with all those bloated apps. I guess my question is, how do I flash it back to that state? Where do I find the official rom? Will I have to unroot (and if so, how)?
Thanks in advanced!
Follow this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1895100
Once you do that and get to official simply take the ota and that will get you to the latest firmware. Then use voodoo rootkeeper to reinstall su.
I just did this yesterday and it worked flawless just be sure to use the ota linked in gunnyman's post. You can use goo manager to install a custom recovery too if you want to.
Hope it helps
smokin1337 said:
Follow this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1895100
Once you do that and get to official simply take the ota and that will get you to the latest firmware. Then use voodoo rootkeeper to reinstall su.
I just did this yesterday and it worked flawless just be sure to use the ota linked in gunnyman's post. You can use goo manager to install a custom recovery too if you want to.
Hope it helps
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+1 follow these steps
smokin1337 said:
Follow this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1895100
Once you do that and get to official simply take the ota and that will get you to the latest firmware. Then use voodoo rootkeeper to reinstall su.
I just did this yesterday and it worked flawless just be sure to use the ota linked in gunnyman's post. You can use goo manager to install a custom recovery too if you want to.
Hope it helps
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+1 as well. Had just rooted my phone and installed CWM two days before the OTA update became available, then spent some time bringing it back to rooted stock, then saved root with voodoo rootkeeper. Worked like a charm.
Of course, now the update is CWM flashable...
Hi,
I might sound dumb but will I be ablle to get OTA updates if I install custom recovery and root.
thechamp007 said:
Hi,
I might sound dumb but will I be ablle to get OTA updates if I install custom recovery and root.
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No. OTA updates require stock recovery. However, you can revert to stock recovery and unroot as you please. Also, you can flash OTA updates through TWRP once a flashable zip is made, except you have to download it and flash it manually, just like installing a custom ROM. Cheers.
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I received the last update through OTA on a rooted Stock ROM with TWRP installed.
After the install was finished TWRP asked if I wanted to restore the root. All went smoothly.
To clarify.. I did not flash the ROM. I used the normal OTA update.
tigerdim said:
I received the last update through OTA on a rooted Stock ROM with TWRP installed.
After the install was finished TWRP asked if I wanted to restore the root. All went smoothly.
To clarify.. I did not flash the ROM. I used the normal OTA update.
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I believe you can on small point updates. The full update from 4.3 to 4.4 most likely won't work with a custom recovery.
nbehary said:
I believe you can on small point updates. The full update from 4.3 to 4.4 most likely won't work with a custom recovery.
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you must have stock /system folder + stock recovery
you can be rooted, by if you delete some files in /system - you break your ota
new ota will be with new radio too
after ota super-su apk will be removed by the ota
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i restored /system apps from sdcard before 4.3 ota and migrate very well from 4.2.2
The ota 4.3 update removed my root and Twrp. Hope 4.4 doesn't do the same. It's always a pain for me to restore root with my Windows 7 laptop. It keeps installing the wrong usb drivers which get in the way of the wugfresh toolkit access to the nexus 7. So it's no easy task for me.
I have looked around and can't seem to get a straight answer about this. I have a stock rooted gn2, if i update over the air will it brick it? At the moment i have the att updater frozen with titanium backup. Any insight would be greatly appreciated, happy holiday!
where have you been searching? This has been covered dozens of times...
sorry
could you possibly provide a link sir?
generally speaking you can NOT take/install any OTA update when you are rooted...most OTA updates wont install if a custom recovery is detected.
99% of the time it wont work, .09% of the time it might install but you will have all sorts of issues, and .01% of the time it will work..
I think that pretty much covers it; you should probably just be patient and wait until the dev's incorporate it into a custom rom, and then you wont have to unroot to "enjoy" what ever the wonderful features are that ATT was so kind to include in their update..
And the install checks for stock system
You can install if you have stock rom. Root doesn't matter. My phone was rooted with stock room and twrp recovery. I just flashed stock recovery back. I had my superuser integrated in system partition. After Ota, i upgraded superuser apk. It then disabled Knox and download latest su binary.
So successful update with root preserved. Pm me of you need help
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WARNING :
If you take the official OTA to 4.3 while root is present...you WILL trip the KNOX counter in your boot loader.
And if you root after an official 4.3 update you WILL trip KNOX anyway..
My .02....DO NOT UPDATE....
Stay rooted on the old bootloader and flash a custom 4.3 rom.....g
Wife is getting a new AT&T note 2 on the 24th (it already shipped). I would assume it doesn't have the OTA on it yet. Can you just reject the OTA when it arrives? Or will it try to install automatically on the new phone. Any way to prevent that until I can get my hands on it (have time tio mess with it).
Anyone try flashing a rom After ota update?
Did you thank your Developer today?
Same boat
I too have a stock rooted 4.1.2. OTA fails as root present, got that. All I need is a stock 4.3 root. I have read several posts and still unclear as to what to do. I have either missed it or just not found the answer.
Do I need to unroot via SuperSU? then OTA? Odin flash a stock ROM?
Please don't bash as I am only seeking an answer. And any help is greatly appreciated!
cordless89 said:
I too have a stock rooted 4.1.2. OTA fails as root present, got that. All I need is a stock 4.3 root. I have read several posts and still unclear as to what to do. I have either missed it or just not found the answer.
Do I need to unroot via SuperSU? then OTA? Odin flash a stock ROM?
Please don't bash as I am only seeking an answer. And any help is greatly appreciated!
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I had stock rooted 4.1.2 with cwm as my recovery. I did the ota update. After the update, cwm wanted to fix root but couldn't. Essentially I lost root. Next, I re-rooted with CF-Auto-Root. I then installed SuperSU from play store which disabled Knox. Using GooManager I flashed TWRP. The last issue was wifi wasn't working. I used Odin to flash this file: http://d-h.st/OYC (unzip and use the tar in Odin). Wifi restored. Overall I like this update. It's faster and smoother.
Having said all this, I do not recommend anyone use this method. It's much cleaner to unroot then update. Or better yet, as suggested before, use one of the custom 4.3 roms.
flymacs said:
I had stock rooted 4.1.2 with cwm as my recovery. I did the ota update. After the update, cwm wanted to fix root but couldn't. Essentially I lost root. Next, I re-rooted with CF-Auto-Root. I then installed SuperSU from play store which disabled Knox. Using GooManager I flashed TWRP. The last issue was wifi wasn't working. I used Odin to flash this file: link removed (unzip and use the tar in Odin). Wifi restored. Overall I like this update. It's faster and smoother.
Having said all this, I do not recommend anyone use this method. It's much cleaner to unroot then update. Or better yet, as suggested before, use one of the custom 4.3 roms.
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I noticed the OTA did not work on my nine as I got the "unable to update" after the OTA downloaded. I initially rooted via the CF-Auto flash.
Just curious as to next step.
flymacs said:
I had stock rooted 4.1.2 with cwm as my recovery. I did the ota update. After the update, cwm wanted to fix root but couldn't. Essentially I lost root. Next, I re-rooted with CF-Auto-Root. I then installed SuperSU from play store which disabled Knox. Using GooManager I flashed TWRP. The last issue was wifi wasn't working. I used Odin to flash this file: http://d-h.st/OYC (unzip and use the tar in Odin). Wifi restored. Overall I like this update. It's faster and smoother.
Having said all this, I do not recommend anyone use this method. It's much cleaner to unroot then update. Or better yet, as suggested before, use one of the custom 4.3 roms.
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So you had no trouble flashing TWRP? I went back to 4.1.1 from Skynote, OTA'd 4.1.2 and was going to flash another ROM but my wife got my phone the next morning to play slots and she accepted the 4.3 official update before I woke up. I did root with CF Auto and disabled Knox, but was wondering if Goomanager would work.
The next question is can we flash some ROMS with the rooted OTA 4.3?
Geeve
Is there a pre-rooted stock 4.3 for the i317 AT&T available?
geeve420 said:
So you had no trouble flashing TWRP? I went back to 4.1.1 from Skynote, OTA'd 4.1.2 and was going to flash another ROM but my wife got my phone the next morning to play slots and she accepted the 4.3 official update before I woke up. I did root with CF Auto and disabled Knox, but was wondering if Goomanager would work.
The next question is can we flash some ROMS with the rooted OTA 4.3?
Geeve
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Goomanager worked fine. No problems with twrp either.
As far as flashing on from ota 4.3, I'm not brave enough yet.
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cordless89 said:
I noticed the OTA did not work on my nine as I got the "unable to update" after the OTA downloaded. I initially rooted via the CF-Auto flash.
Just curious as to next step.
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Did you debloat or remove any apps from the stock 4.1.2?
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Goomanager worked fine. No problems with twrp either.
As far as flashing on from ota 4.3, I'm not brave enough yet.
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Did you debloat or remove any apps from the stock 4.1.2?
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Nope, pretty much as stock as you can get plus root. OTA failed but I assume reason being the root... but I'm a newbie on this stuff.
cordless89 said:
Nope, pretty much as stock as you can get plus root. OTA failed but I assume reason being the root... but I'm a newbie on this stuff.
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Then the next question I have is if you are using the stock recovery? I was using cwm on stock rooted 4.1.2. When I did the ota, the phone rebooted into cwm. Cwm asked if I wanted to do the update. I selected yes. When it completed, the Samsung installer gave a failed to install message, but cwm showed that it completed and wanted to fix root. It couldn't fix since I was unrooted at this point. I rebooted into 4.3 non-rooted. Re-rooted...etc.
I want to say again that I don't recommend anyone follow this procedure. I'm just trying to describe how I solved my own mess and hopefully answer any questions.