Hi all who stumble upon my question. I recently purchased a 2500mAh battery from ebay but I am having a few issues with my phone/power/charging. Firstly I did a battery stats wipe when the phone was on <1%. Now it always says the battery is on 100% until it dies, even when the phone is offline and the battery is dead it says it's at 100%. This also means that the battery won't charge to its full capacity I have tried wiping the battery stats again once it is charged but unfortunately it makes no difference. Is it because of the rom that i'm on? and i preferably don't want to do a data wipe. I am using the heaven droid rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801634
Furthermore, i'm finding that i don't get much more usage out of this battery than with the original 1500mAh battery (before i was having this problem...) any tips?
Thanks for reading this, Aaron
Was it an official battery or cheap knock off, if it's the latter I'd bin it and buy an official one.
XperienceD said:
Was it an official battery or cheap knock off, if it's the latter I'd bin it and buy an official one.
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yeah it was a cheap one but it is bigger and heavier than a genuine ba750 so it seemed legit to me
aarondennis96 said:
yeah it was a cheap one but it is bigger and heavier than a genuine ba750 so it seemed legit to me
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It is, but the system is locked to 1500 only. After it dies reinsert battery and it would continue the left juice
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This is getting annoying now
ok i've kinda tried your suggestion and the battery has been lasting longer. But i flashed AOKP JB and i still have the same problem. Although the battery now says it's at 1%. I performed a data wipe etc. This is getting annoying now :'(
This thread may help out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23061168
if not contact op to see if any help available
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Try this : Download from play store "root browser", open it and go to /system and open file "build.prop" (as text) and edit line :
ro.semc.batt.capacity=1500 (the 1500 replace with your new capacity)!
Then save and close file, reboot phone.
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I'm not up-to-date on battery etiquette, so thought I would check with you chaps. I should be picking my One X up from Carphone Warehouse tomorrow or Wed, but wanted to know whether it was considered better to charge immediately, or to use the battery until the phone dies, then charge fully, or some other third option. Want to make sure I get the best out of the battery, obviously.
Thanks!
wilkomints said:
I'm not up-to-date on battery etiquette, so thought I would check with you chaps. I should be picking my One X up from Carphone Warehouse tomorrow or Wed, but wanted to know whether it was considered better to charge immediately, or to use the battery until the phone dies, then charge fully, or some other third option. Want to make sure I get the best out of the battery, obviously.
Thanks!
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What you really want to do is condition your battery. You don't need to do it immediately but in the first week or so of having the phone. By conditioning, I mean... Charging it until it's full, then using it until its fully discharged, then charging it again. Repeat this cycle ("fully discharged when charging") for 3 to 4 times... after that, you'll notice that your battery lasts longer than usual. It's what I've done with all my phones, seemed to work pretty good.
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What you really want to do is condition your battery. You don't need to do it immediately but in the first week or so of having the phone. By conditioning, I mean... Charging it until it's full, then using it until its fully discharged, then charging it again. Repeat this cycle ("fully discharged when charging") for 3 to 4 times... after that, you'll notice that your battery lasts longer than usual. It's what I've done with all my phones, seemed to work pretty good.
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But were you using Lithium-Ion batteries? From what I have heard, completely depleting the power of the battery actually damages its health.
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But were you using Lithium-Ion batteries? From what I have heard, completely depleting the power of the battery actually damages its health.
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I think you are right.
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A lot of the time android will shut down just before your battery is 100% empty, you will find if you try to turn your phone on after its shut down it will still boot and run for 15 - 30 mins, depending on battery age and condition ofcorse. And if you keep on turning on the phone when its battery is very low/empty you will then start to damage it.
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Some one posted this website before:
http://batteryuniversity.com/
It also has a nice table about how to look after your battery:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_charge_when_to_charge_table
How to Prime Batteries
...Rechargeable batteries may not deliver their full rated capacity when new and will require formatting. While this applies to most battery systems, manufacturers of lithium-ion batteries disagree. They say that Li-ion is ready at birth and does not need priming. Although this may be true, users have reported some capacity gains by cycling these batteries after long storage....
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Source: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prime_batteries
Charging the battery
Before you turn on and start using HTC One X, it is recommended that you charge the battery.
Only the power adapter and USB Cable provided in the box must be used to charge the battery.
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Source: HTC One X Manual as pasted here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572581
However there seems to be a common agreement that over the first week / two weeks of usage the battery will improve...
Last quote from MaDaCo review comments from Paul when asked how does he condition his battery:
I don't really condition it tbh, I just find it takes a few charges to get 'up to speed'.
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Conditioning the battery was needed with old style batteries.. new Li-xxx batteries don't need one.. and what does an extra 30mins actually mean to you ...
now you can buy original replacement batteries for 20-30$, so if it loses it's capacity after some time you can easily buy new one...
LorD ClockaN said:
Conditioning the battery was needed with old style batteries.. new Li-xxx batteries don't need one.. and what does an extra 30mins actually mean to you ...
now you can buy original replacement batteries for 20-30$, so if it loses it's capacity after some time you can easily buy new one...
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and how do we fit it ???????????????
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wilkomints said:
I'm not up-to-date on battery etiquette, so thought I would check with you chaps. I should be picking my One X up from Carphone Warehouse tomorrow or Wed, but wanted to know whether it was considered better to charge immediately, or to use the battery until the phone dies, then charge fully, or some other third option. Want to make sure I get the best out of the battery, obviously.
Thanks!
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I'd use the battery as soon as you get it until completely drained.
Then perform a full battery charge without use, its best to do this to ensure a full 0%-100% charge.
Hi,
I got a new aftermarket battery, same size but more power: is there anything I should do (delete battery stats, manually or through an app, etc...) to have it work properly?
thanks
thegios said:
Hi,
I got a new aftermarket battery, same size but more power: is there anything I should do (delete battery stats, manually or through an app, etc...) to have it work properly?
thanks
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i doubt its legit anyway..
Your good to go bud the Android system will take care of everything. Wiping battery stats is a thing of the past.
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thegios said:
Hi,
I got a new aftermarket battery, same size but more power: is there anything I should do (delete battery stats, manually or through an app, etc...) to have it work properly?
thanks
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Nothing special to do.
Problem is, if the battery is the same size, its probably the same (or even less) mAh capacity as stock, and just being sold as larger w/ a different label
martonikaj said:
Nothing special to do.
Problem is, if the battery is the same size, its probably the same (or even less) mAh capacity as stock, and just being sold as larger w/ a different label
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in theory battery is without NFC so the advertised 1900mAh should be real
is tehre a way to check the real mAh of a battery?
Battery Monitor Widget shows you the mAh of your battery,
By the way, Did you tray to dial the code *#*#4636#*#* on the phone, and then go to the option "battery info"?
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As with any battery I suggest charge and discharge FULLY two or three times to condition the battery. Don't top it off for the first bit. If its not genuine, I wouldn't hold my breath. Don't let it sit discharged in your phone lest it leak. My 2cents.
if its the same size as the oem its not 1900mah.
I have recently purchased the Verizon Samsung Extended Battery for both my phone and my wife's. It is supposed to have a capacity of 2100Mah.
However, using the app, Battery Monitor Widget, the app is reading the capacity of both batteries at 1750Mah on both my phone and my wife's phone.
Is this a fault of the app? Can it be possible that both batteries are bad?
If this is all the capacity I am going to get, I might as well go back to stock and get my money back. I just don't want to wait too long and be outside of the return policy from the Verizon store.
Thanks
Reset the battery stats.
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Hydera5 said:
Reset the battery stats.
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No.
Battery stats have NO effect on the percentage or MaH being read.
That being said, I haven't personally tested my extended via that app...or others.
But I generally get JUST A BIT more juice out of the extended.
I'd say it's worth it...especially if you're (obviously) wanting that extra juice...you can just swap mid-day if need be.
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Is this a fault of the app?
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Yes, but it's still a good app.
perhaps you can use the program to compare both batteries directly.
player911 said:
perhaps you can use the program to compare both batteries directly.
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I will install the stock battery tonight when I get home, measure it, and report back.
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I will install the stock battery tonight when I get home, measure it, and report back.
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So the stock battery showed up as 1750 as well. I then did some research using the app's help section. I found out you can do a calibration during charge that will determine the actual mah of the battery.
So I ran my battery down to 17%, then turned on the calibration and plugged my phone in. This morning when I looked at the app, it showed by extended battery actual mah as 2022 after the calibration test.
I read a little more, if I run it down to 1 or 2%, it will give a more accurate mah. Therefore, my test for tonight is to drain my battery then run the calibration overnight again.
I will report back my test results tomorrow.
What is the proper way to condition a new battery? I just purchased the Samsung 2100, and want to make sure I use it properly.
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doubleojon said:
What is the proper way to condition a new battery? I just purchased the Samsung 2100, and want to make sure I use it properly.
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Just use it. Lithium batteries do not need to be conditioned or discharged completely or anything like that. Just use and enjoy.
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What is the proper way to condition a new battery? I just purchased the Samsung 2100, and want to make sure I use it properly.
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I bought the Anker battery and it says to deplete the battery fully before recharging it back up to 100% without pulling the battery out of the phone...4 times. It may be a bit much but I wanted to make sure I got the most out of the battery. I believe in it because (i bought 2) one doesnt last nearly as long as the other...I properly conditioned one but not the other.
aftermarket batteries need to be condition like, fully drained and fully recharged.
on the other hand oem batteries don't.
Li-ion/Li-polymer batteries do not need to be conditioned. You are only wasting your time, it will make no difference whatsoever to the health of the battery. In fact letting these batteries run down completely can be harmful to them
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1725936
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I bought the Anker battery and it says to deplete the battery fully before recharging it back up to 100% without pulling the battery out of the phone...4 times. It may be a bit much but I wanted to make sure I got the most out of the battery. I believe in it because (i bought 2) one doesnt last nearly as long as the other...I properly conditioned one but not the other.
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You could never condition a Li-ion battery but simply calibrating how the OS logs the battery stats.
That's it.
1-You can't condition a li- on battery.
2- If you could, you wouldn't need to condition a manufacturer's battery.
3- fully depleting any battery harms (and could kill) it. That's one reason most devices won't really allow you to drain every bit out of it (cell phones are a prime example)
4- I've had batteries that I 'conditioned' end up weaker than they started out
5- I never stop at #4. 1,2,3,4,5. 1,2,3,4,5. It has to be done 3 or 4 times.... 5 3,4,5 3,4,5 (just kidding)
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aad4321 said:
I agree but why do you think the stock samsung battery would not need this? I mean it does specifically state in the manual to not use until fully charged. I doubt they are just saying that not knowing what they are talking about.
In anycase like almost anyone who buys a nexus I am way to excited to wait for the dam battery to charge.
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The charging cycle is only for the firmware to log the battery stats so it's reflected correctly; it has nothing to do with the battery itself. That's why people recommend it for new batteries - OS will be able to reflect the battery level more accurately.
Like it's been repeated gazillion times before, you could not condition a Li-ion battery. It starts to degrade as soon as it leaves the factory NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO and basically dies within 3 years from the manufacturing date.
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The charging cycle is only for the firmware to log the battery stats so it's reflected correctly; it has nothing to do with the battery itself. That's why people recommend it for new batteries - OS will be able to reflect the battery level more accurately.
Like it's been repeated gazillion times before, you could not condition a Li-ion battery. It starts to degrade as soon as it leaves the factory NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO and basically dies within 3 years from the manufacturing date.
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I guess that's what I meant. Thank you guys for the responses. I charged it fully, then ran it to shutdown, then charged fully again. So far, so good.
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Hi all!
I use the gadget about 2 years or more. My Battery is very bad... 1.5 hours of screen!
Can you tell me, where i can buy new REALY original battery for this phone. (in US).
Thank you!
Kidovzky said:
Hi all!
I use the gadget about 2 years or more. My Battery is very bad... 1.5 hours of screen!
Can you tell me, where i can buy new REALY original battery for this phone. (in US).
Thank you!
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I've seen good things about one on Amazon. Which ROM are you using? Also, which kernel?
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My guess is a battery issue...not a bad battery tho.
Why not get gsam and post some screenshots after a good long drain?
Your setup, usage and apps have surely changed over time. Something is likely draining your battery.
Read the first 3 posts in the battery thread in my signature.... Its for the N5...but most info is universal.
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I've seen good things about one on Amazon. Which ROM are you using? Also, which kernel?
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On amazon many fake battery. Ok, try to find it again.
ROM is cm11 with default kenel
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On amazon many fake battery. Ok, try to find it again.
ROM is cm11 with default kenel
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Ok. I've seen some good things about Anker batteries (like this one:http://www.amazon.com/Replacement-T...H-I515/dp/B0078WL4YO/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top)
With a new battery, do a full charge, full discharge (until phone dies and will not turn back on), and another full charge.
+1 for the anker 2200mah replacement. It's cheaper than the oem battery. It lacks nfc though. And as for the whole "battery memory" thing, don't worry about it. Just pop the new battery in and use it however. I just bought the anker to replace the original battery in my wife's s2, her battery life has doubled.
I just bought the Anker 2200 mAh battery and its great. My phone does last a little longer on standby, but my screen-on time hasn't increased by very much (I typically get about 3-4 hrs screen time).
I'm running CarbonROM + Wildkernel and other various tweaks for battery life. My phone spends most of its time in deep sleep.
When you open your battery stats, what things are taking the most out of your battery? I've found the app Wakelock Detector to help a lot in tracking down battery drains.
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.uzumapps.wakelockdetector&hl=en
GSAM gives a much easier to understand picture of battery usage. If you're rooted, get Gsam root companion as well to see held awake stats. ?