Hi,
I got a new aftermarket battery, same size but more power: is there anything I should do (delete battery stats, manually or through an app, etc...) to have it work properly?
thanks
thegios said:
Hi,
I got a new aftermarket battery, same size but more power: is there anything I should do (delete battery stats, manually or through an app, etc...) to have it work properly?
thanks
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i doubt its legit anyway..
Your good to go bud the Android system will take care of everything. Wiping battery stats is a thing of the past.
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thegios said:
Hi,
I got a new aftermarket battery, same size but more power: is there anything I should do (delete battery stats, manually or through an app, etc...) to have it work properly?
thanks
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Nothing special to do.
Problem is, if the battery is the same size, its probably the same (or even less) mAh capacity as stock, and just being sold as larger w/ a different label
martonikaj said:
Nothing special to do.
Problem is, if the battery is the same size, its probably the same (or even less) mAh capacity as stock, and just being sold as larger w/ a different label
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in theory battery is without NFC so the advertised 1900mAh should be real
is tehre a way to check the real mAh of a battery?
Battery Monitor Widget shows you the mAh of your battery,
By the way, Did you tray to dial the code *#*#4636#*#* on the phone, and then go to the option "battery info"?
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As with any battery I suggest charge and discharge FULLY two or three times to condition the battery. Don't top it off for the first bit. If its not genuine, I wouldn't hold my breath. Don't let it sit discharged in your phone lest it leak. My 2cents.
if its the same size as the oem its not 1900mah.
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Okay so, my last phone was a Droid X2 and I got a 3500 mah extended battery for it. It was on Android 2.3.5 and Android's battery meter did not correctly read the battery's percentage.
When it got to 1% battery it would simply stay there for a while before it died.
I am wondering if this problem is fixed with the Galaxy Nexus or ICS in general?
I purchased a Seidio 3800mah battery and I'm curious to know if I can rely on it's battery readings.
Thanks in advanced!
donlad said:
Okay so, my last phone was a Droid X2 and I got a 3500 mah extended battery for it. It was on Android 2.3.5 and Android's battery meter did not correctly read the battery's percentage.
When it got to 1% battery it would simply stay there for a while before it died.
I am wondering if this problem is fixed with the Galaxy Nexus or ICS in general?
I purchased a Seidio 3800mah battery and I'm curious to know if I can rely on it's battery readings.
Thanks in advanced!
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I have the official Samsung Extended Battery (2100mAh) and it reads it perfectly. Charges all the way to 100% and then dies at 0% (doesn't hang at 1%).
anton2009 said:
I have the official Samsung Extended Battery (2100mAh) and it reads it perfectly. Charges all the way to 100% and then dies at 0% (doesn't hang at 1%).
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Thanks for the quick response
I see you said you have the official battery and I'm wondering if there's anybody with a non official battery (if that even makes a difference).
Also I'm wondering about high mah batteries such as the 3800 mah from Seidio or another from Mugen Power.
Thanks
The percentage comes from the chip in the battery, not ICS. So any official battery would output the correct SoC which the driver can read. A cheap battery may or may not depending if that manufacturer setup the chip correctly.
Android 2.3.5 was identical. If it was a 3500 seido they typically give correct charge. If it was a cheaper one then thats why your droidx didnt display properly.
Has to do with the fuel gauge chip, not the OS. Galaxy nexus uses max10740. Nexus one used ds2784. Droidx was totally different too. All depends on that chip.
RogerPodacter said:
The percentage comes from the chip in the battery, not ICS. So any official battery would output the correct SoC which the driver can read. A cheap battery may or may not depending if that manufacturer setup the chip correctly.
Android 2.3.5 was identical. If it was a 3500 seido they typically give correct charge. If it was a cheaper one then thats why your droidx didnt display properly.
Has to do with the fuel gauge chip, not the OS. Galaxy nexus uses max10740. Nexus one used ds2784. Droidx was totally different too. All depends on that chip.
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Yes it was a cheap off-brand battery and that probably explains why it wasn't showing correct percentages.
Thank you!
I have recently purchased the Verizon Samsung Extended Battery for both my phone and my wife's. It is supposed to have a capacity of 2100Mah.
However, using the app, Battery Monitor Widget, the app is reading the capacity of both batteries at 1750Mah on both my phone and my wife's phone.
Is this a fault of the app? Can it be possible that both batteries are bad?
If this is all the capacity I am going to get, I might as well go back to stock and get my money back. I just don't want to wait too long and be outside of the return policy from the Verizon store.
Thanks
Reset the battery stats.
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Hydera5 said:
Reset the battery stats.
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No.
Battery stats have NO effect on the percentage or MaH being read.
That being said, I haven't personally tested my extended via that app...or others.
But I generally get JUST A BIT more juice out of the extended.
I'd say it's worth it...especially if you're (obviously) wanting that extra juice...you can just swap mid-day if need be.
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Is this a fault of the app?
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Yes, but it's still a good app.
perhaps you can use the program to compare both batteries directly.
player911 said:
perhaps you can use the program to compare both batteries directly.
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I will install the stock battery tonight when I get home, measure it, and report back.
fit4ugolf said:
I will install the stock battery tonight when I get home, measure it, and report back.
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So the stock battery showed up as 1750 as well. I then did some research using the app's help section. I found out you can do a calibration during charge that will determine the actual mah of the battery.
So I ran my battery down to 17%, then turned on the calibration and plugged my phone in. This morning when I looked at the app, it showed by extended battery actual mah as 2022 after the calibration test.
I read a little more, if I run it down to 1 or 2%, it will give a more accurate mah. Therefore, my test for tonight is to drain my battery then run the calibration overnight again.
I will report back my test results tomorrow.
What is the proper way to condition a new battery? I just purchased the Samsung 2100, and want to make sure I use it properly.
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doubleojon said:
What is the proper way to condition a new battery? I just purchased the Samsung 2100, and want to make sure I use it properly.
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Just use it. Lithium batteries do not need to be conditioned or discharged completely or anything like that. Just use and enjoy.
doubleojon said:
What is the proper way to condition a new battery? I just purchased the Samsung 2100, and want to make sure I use it properly.
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I bought the Anker battery and it says to deplete the battery fully before recharging it back up to 100% without pulling the battery out of the phone...4 times. It may be a bit much but I wanted to make sure I got the most out of the battery. I believe in it because (i bought 2) one doesnt last nearly as long as the other...I properly conditioned one but not the other.
aftermarket batteries need to be condition like, fully drained and fully recharged.
on the other hand oem batteries don't.
Li-ion/Li-polymer batteries do not need to be conditioned. You are only wasting your time, it will make no difference whatsoever to the health of the battery. In fact letting these batteries run down completely can be harmful to them
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1725936
dr_w said:
I bought the Anker battery and it says to deplete the battery fully before recharging it back up to 100% without pulling the battery out of the phone...4 times. It may be a bit much but I wanted to make sure I got the most out of the battery. I believe in it because (i bought 2) one doesnt last nearly as long as the other...I properly conditioned one but not the other.
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You could never condition a Li-ion battery but simply calibrating how the OS logs the battery stats.
That's it.
1-You can't condition a li- on battery.
2- If you could, you wouldn't need to condition a manufacturer's battery.
3- fully depleting any battery harms (and could kill) it. That's one reason most devices won't really allow you to drain every bit out of it (cell phones are a prime example)
4- I've had batteries that I 'conditioned' end up weaker than they started out
5- I never stop at #4. 1,2,3,4,5. 1,2,3,4,5. It has to be done 3 or 4 times.... 5 3,4,5 3,4,5 (just kidding)
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aad4321 said:
I agree but why do you think the stock samsung battery would not need this? I mean it does specifically state in the manual to not use until fully charged. I doubt they are just saying that not knowing what they are talking about.
In anycase like almost anyone who buys a nexus I am way to excited to wait for the dam battery to charge.
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The charging cycle is only for the firmware to log the battery stats so it's reflected correctly; it has nothing to do with the battery itself. That's why people recommend it for new batteries - OS will be able to reflect the battery level more accurately.
Like it's been repeated gazillion times before, you could not condition a Li-ion battery. It starts to degrade as soon as it leaves the factory NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO and basically dies within 3 years from the manufacturing date.
MilkPudding said:
The charging cycle is only for the firmware to log the battery stats so it's reflected correctly; it has nothing to do with the battery itself. That's why people recommend it for new batteries - OS will be able to reflect the battery level more accurately.
Like it's been repeated gazillion times before, you could not condition a Li-ion battery. It starts to degrade as soon as it leaves the factory NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO and basically dies within 3 years from the manufacturing date.
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I guess that's what I meant. Thank you guys for the responses. I charged it fully, then ran it to shutdown, then charged fully again. So far, so good.
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Can I use a 3500mAh or a 2450mAh battery on my phone? Are there any problems or risk?
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Can I use a 3500mAh or a 2450mAh battery on my phone? Are there any problems or risk?
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No risks, as in, no. You can't do any damage to your phone by putting in a new battery. Problems though would be that you need to make sure the battery comes with a new back cover, as due to the increased battery size, the stock cover will no longer fit. :good:
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No risks, as in, no. You can't do any damage to your phone by putting in a new battery. Problems though would be that you need to make sure the battery comes with a new back cover, as due to the increased battery size, the stock cover will no longer fit. :good:
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Ah.. The 2450 mAh battery is identical to the original, the 3500 mAh is largest than the original and is including a new cover.
But I choose 2450 mAh, because i wouldn't chance my phone's size.
Thank you!
You can use any size mah in a battery and it will be fine, the only thing you should worry about is over heating because with a bigger capacity battery which means it can run longer it could make the phone warm or hot, if you feel it getting warm take the battery out or turn the phone and let it cool off. You could use a 5000 mah and you would be fine, as long as the voltage output is correct to the phones specs then you should be good! Hope thus helps!
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hey where did you get that 2400 mA battery? i mean online? than give me link plz
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Hi.
My name is Andre.
I have an xperia play that I've been using as a pocket emulator for years.
I have the NexPlay Rom installed, as well the recommended LuPuS CM9 Kernel and .58 Enhanced firmware.
Recently I bought one of these 4500 mAh battery and back cover from ebay.
The original charge it came with lasted a good while so I really believe this is not a fake battery.
But I can't get the phone to recognize the new battery capacity and charge it. The phone seems to only charge it up to the original 1500 mAh.
I've added the following line to build.prop (the line wasn't present) through the BuildProp Editor app:
ro.semc.batt.capacity=4500
But even after clearing the cache, davik cache and resetting the battery stats, I see no changes.
Can anyone help? I'd really appreciate it.
sorry i cant help, but a 4500mah battery sound nice, when i had the xplay i had a 2450 mah and worked fine, the only problem is it decayed its capacity very very quickly
inaroom said:
sorry i cant help, but a 4500mah battery sound nice, when i had the xplay i had a 2450 mah and worked fine, the only problem is it decayed its capacity very very quickly
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Thanks anyway.
Since my original post I've done more reading, searching and testing.
Turns out there is nothing functionally wrong with the phone, other than it still thinking the battery is 1500 mah for battery duration calculations.
The charge percentage is correct, and the phone is charging the battery until it reaches a voltage of 4.2, which means it's full.
It's the battery itself that is only taking in about 2800 mah. The seller said he would send me another one.
Arthemus123 said:
Thanks anyway.
Since my original post I've done more reading, searching and testing.
Turns out there is nothing functionally wrong with the phone, other than it still thinking the battery is 1500 mah for battery duration calculations.
The charge percentage is correct, and the phone is charging the battery until it reaches a voltage of 4.2, which means it's full.
It's the battery itself that is only taking in about 2800 mah. The seller said he would send me another one.
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ok keep us updated