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Hello all, I am a Desire HD user for a year.
I am using Opera 10.1 beta which is the smoothest browser i have ever used.
I installed many browsers via market and i found that most of them are really
choppy, not as smooth as iPhone's safari even flash is disabled.(Or this problem can not be solved due to the hardware?)
So, I wonder if there are any browsers that would be better than Opera?
Thanks.
The reason the iPhone browser feels smoother is that as soon as your finger touches the screen all page rendering & element loading stops, whereas on Android it continues, hence the "choppy" feeling.
You can read more here --> https://plus.google.com/100838276097451809262/posts/VDkV9XaJRGS
As for your actual question, I use CyanogenMod7 and the browser works normally, minor choppiness as per.
ive had many phones from windows mobile to android, and over the years the browser i continuously return to is opera mobile (which you cannot f***k with)
ive tried
dolphin
maxathon
stock
firefox
all the browsers suck bigtime compared to opera no matter what anyone says,
stick to opera mobile, it works well, its all in the rendering,
ive had alot of problems trying to log into certain sites with the above browsers, when i used opera no issues at all!
smooth browsers
I've tried loads of browsers for Android and I always come back to Opera, mini for speed or if u have slow internet and mobile for everyday browsing. Love it so much I'm using it for P.c aswell with the Opera link function keeps ur bookmarks synced over mobile and desktop. If u r on 10.1 beta I'd update if I were u there has probably been 8 or 9 updates since then a couple of them major ones. Current version is 11.5.3
I always use Opera too. I tried many as per this page.
For me Opera is superior because of its smoothness and pretty good speed.
If you are using ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich) you could also try ICS Browser Plus from Beansoft, which is new.
From what I see, the stock browser (of Android 2.3 in HTC Desire HD) is pretty good -- it has decent speed, and it provides adequate "reflow" of text when you zoom a page.
Opera's speed is about the same, but the problem with Opera (at least the current version from Market) is that it always renders text formatted for "zoomed in" (as after double click) zoom level -- even if you zoom out, the columns width (in characters) remains the same, narrow. Which renders it less then usable IMHO . BTW, not sure why, I'm pretty sure I've see bundled versions of Opera on Windows Mobile, which rendered text with adequate reflow, I guess this is some marketing feature for them.
The rest of available browsers are just not very good from the performance standpoint. So with all the available choices, there is actually no good alternative to the stock one
Thank you guys, thanks for the information.
Hope that the stable ICS would release soon and bring our Desire HD to next level...
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So with much time passed and with me using AOSP 4.2.2 ROM's now, I needed to provide an update to this thread.
Chrome was my previous favorite under ICS, but now sucks (for the purpose of the torture test thread anyways).
I don't know what happened, but for the last few weeks, Chrome has not been able to display the torture-test GIF's webpage smoothly. So I set about looking for a new Browser.
Here are the new results.
UNACCEPTABLE:
Opera Mini
Quick ICS Browser
Skyfire
Lighting Browser
UC Browser (must not be compatible with 4.2.2 yet)
STUDDERING MOTION AND FAR FROM FLAWLESS:
One Browser
Angel Browser
Baidu Browser
Niesky
Maxthon
Naked Browser
Dolphin
Dolphin mini
Boat
Boat Mini
VERY GOOD PERFORMANCE:
Opera Beta
Opera Mobile
Firefox
I then opened Opera Beta, Opera Mobile and Firefox all at the same time so I could check their performance against each other, while also being able to display the images while the phone was being heavily used.
Opera Beta *started* out with the fastest performance. With Firefox second and Opera Mobile a distant third.
But after a few minutes, Opera Beta stopped playing the gifs at all.
Opera Mobile was "okay" but starting to studder just a tad.
Firefox on the other hand was still sitting there blazing through the GIF's without any trouble at all!!!
So, unless Firefox ends up having a horrid GUI, it is now my new favorite go-to Browser!
Firefox download link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mozilla.firefox&feature=search_result
Edit. I just discovered FireFox Beta. Looks like it's pretty darn good also.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sMSwxLDEsIm9yZy5tb3ppbGxhLmZpcmVmb3hfYmV0YSJd
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This is my Android Browser "torture test". I click the link below and let all the gifs load up. I then do the same on my computer. Then I compare the results between the two. I watch to see how fast & smooth the gifs are when compared to how I see them on my fairly heavy duty home computer.
Oh yea, the link below is often NSFW!!!
edit. link removed due to not being SFW.
Though I made sure this particular page was PG13 at the worst.
Not a BS website. Actually a pretty cool one, if you're into Motorcycles.
And lots of funny GIF's on this page.
Anyways, tonight I tested a bunch of popular browsers. At least the ones that the Play store suggested as being most popular. And I'm really disappointed with how poorly the majority worked.
My phone:
AT&T Galaxy SIII
ROM - ARISTODEMOS AOSP Jelly Bean (I float around a lot)
Kernel - Ktoonsez Jelly Bean TW @ 2ghz Overclock
LTE @ ~18mbps & WiFi @ ~3mbps
And here are the browsers and "score" I gave each. Score is 1-4 on a scale of, uhh, 1-4 with 4 being "best".
VERY GOOD PERFORMANCE:
Chrome = 4
ACCEPTABLE PERFORMANCE:
UC Browser = 3
Opera = 3
UNACCEPTABLE PERFORMANCE:
Boat = 1
Maxthon = 1
Stock Jelly Bean = 1
SkyFire = 1
Dolphin = 1
Your own results may vary. These are just MY results. But I thought I'd share them with others who like to look at gifs and don't have time to do their own testing.
I had similar results with a slimmed down testing I did a few months ago of Dolphin & Stock Browser vs. Chrome on AOKP. Chrome blew them away back then also.
Updated for browsers running on 4.2.2 AOSP ROM (LiquidSmooth RC2).
can't tell what you used to test the site since it's been removed, but reading this made me try the firefox beta and i'm actually very impressed. It handles flash pretty well also which is a bonus in my book.
nevermind
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can't tell what you used to test the site since it's been removed, but reading this made me try the firefox beta and i'm actually very impressed. It handles flash pretty well also which is a bonus in my book.
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It was a webpage loaded up with about 50 individual animated GIF's. I had to remove the link because of a couple nSFW GIF's.
If you are over 18 and want to check it out, just PM me for the URL.
I found that I liked Opera Mobile for the best GUI. But the lack of full-page viewing killed it for me.
Does anyone fine scrolling a webpage on Google chrome a little bit slow as oppose to the stock browsers ?
It doesn't seem to do it on the nexus 7 and our didn't seem to on the gallacy s3, only see the issue on my note 2. Is anyone else experience this issue?
Same story here. The stock browser scrolls and zooms much smoother.
I've been seeing the same thing. I had the same issue on my GS2 and thought it was just the older hardware, guess not. Been thinking of switching to an alternative browser.
Personally I love chrome and have had no issues.
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Try Boat browser you wont look back, install Adobe Flash from XDA video below on it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGI87D7lVyA
For me chrome is also laggy. Best for me is stock+full screen and gestures....
I have to agree, It seems that the stock browser seems to work pretty well under most situations. I'm not sure why chrome behaves this way, it was the same on my note 1.
Chrome is bit laggy than stock browser.it was same issue on s3 too.
Before rooting when screen dim, I can click home screen and it returns to where I was.but now it closes down to homescreen.
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Does it perform any better with a different ROM? My nexus7 never had the issue, it was buttery-smooth and its only sporting a tegra3 CPU. I feel as if its maybe some sort of graphical driver or something...
The stock browser works fine, buttery smooth, almost as good as iPhone/Safari, but I'm at a loss as to explain chrome.. It worked fine on the S3 I tried at the shops (I think it was the I9305?). Has anyone had any insight as to why it might be slowish on some and faster on other devices?
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Does it perform any better with a different ROM? My nexus7 never had the issue, it was buttery-smooth and its only sporting a tegra3 CPU. I feel as if its maybe some sort of graphical driver or something...
The stock browser works fine, buttery smooth, almost as good as iPhone/Safari, but I'm at a loss as to explain chrome.. It worked fine on the S3 I tried at the shops (I think it was the I9305?). Has anyone had any insight as to why it might be slowish on some and faster on other devices?
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Chrome is laggy on any device including the Nexus 7 that I sold.
Chrome is laggy on my ipad 3 as well. Stock browsers seem to be much better integrated with cpu / gpu. Even on ipad safari owns chrome in terms of smoothness.
I have the Omega ROM on my Note II and Chrome is very stuttery when scrolling. I really like the way Chrome works but just can't use it due to the jerkiness of the scrolling, and it's also slower when flinging up and down long pages.
At the moment using Dolphin which uses the built in engine with it's own UI on top and liking it mostly. Will give Boat a try though.
elease early, release often. Today, we’re introducing Chrome Beta channel for phones and tablets on Android 4.0+. The Beta channel was launched in the early days of Chrome to test out new features and fix issues fast. Our newest Beta channel for phones and tablets now joins our Beta versions of Chrome for Mac, Windows, Linux and Chrome OS.
You can expect early access to new features (and bugs!), as well as a chance to provide feedback on what’s on the way. Just like our other Beta versions, the new features may be a little rough around the edges, but we’ll be pushing periodic updates so you can test out our latest work as soon as it’s ready. Even better, you can install the Beta alongside your current version of Chrome for Android.
Chrome for Android now benefits from all the speed, security and other improvements that have been landing on Chrome’s other platforms. For example, in today’s Beta update we have improved the Octane performance benchmark on average by 25-30%. In addition, this update includes interesting HTML5 features for developers such as CSS Filters. This is just one step of many towards bringing beautiful experiences to the mobile web.
Ready? Use it, abuse it, and tell us what you think. Our new Chrome Beta for Android is available now on Google Play (use the link, you won't find it in search)!
Posted by Jason Kersey, Technical Program Manager & Mobile Cat Herder
http://chrome.blogspot.com/2013/01/our-newest-beta-for-android-phones-and.html
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Difference is that Chrome Beta has newer features than Chrome on the Play Store.
Download Link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.chrome.beta
... Personally I prefer the newest & latest stuff so I will be replacing Chrome with Chrome Beta on my N4. Posting for awareness.
Looking forward to try this out once I get home
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Looking forward to try this out once I get home
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Hopefully it will have more performance increases Google Blog said that you have to install it via the Play Store website otherwise you won't find it on the Play store. It probably does have increases as it does say it increases benchmarks.
Chrome for Android now benefits from all the speed, security and other improvements that have been landing on Chrome’s other platforms. For example, in today’s Beta update we have improved the Octane performance benchmark on average by 25-30%. In addition, this update includes interesting HTML5 features for developers such as CSS Filters. This is just one step of many towards bringing beautiful experiences to the mobile web.
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I decided to run sun spider on it the results are here
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I decided to run sun spider on it the results are here
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Mind comparing the stable Chrome and the stock browser as well as others? would be interesting to see the differences.
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Mind comparing the stable Chrome and the stock browser as well as others? would be interesting to see the differences.
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Looking at the benchmarks sun spider performance seems the same as regular chrome
I will test on AOSP Browser now
AOSP Results :-
1578.1ms
These tests I'm doing are anything but scientific BTW.
Ram hasn't been cleared I'm running paranoid android on stock kernel with stock clocks
On demand is governor iirc
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I didn't clear the RAM either. I have weird results:
Chrome Stable: 1952.0 ms
Chrome Beta: 1333.0 ms
AOSP: 1557.5 ms
lol?
another blog post,
http://googlechromereleases.blogspo...+GoogleChromeReleases+(Google+Chrome+Releases)
Performance is sluggish, noticeably on Galaxy Nexus and Nexus S
Frequent freeze on devices with specific versions of Qualcomm GPU driver
Text autosizing may break formatting on some sites
164632 - Editing bookmark feature is broken
165244 - Text position handler jumps or disappears when moving
163439 - Clicking on links in yahoo.com not navigating on Nexus 7
166233 - Unable to submit comments on Facebook posts in desktop version of Facebook
165244 - Text handler jumps or disappears when moving
167351 - Youtube video controls are lost after returning from fullscreen video mode
162486 - iframe scrolling broken
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It's fast but pretty laggy when scrolling
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I might give it a try..but dolphin beta has been plenty fast for me.
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ztmike said:
I might give it a try..but dolphin beta has been plenty fast for me.
Sent from my Nexus 4 16GB using Tapatalk 2
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Doesn't hurt to try I'm sure that eventually, it will get to the stage of stability as the AOSP Browser.
Try using www.theverge.com, IMO ASOP is still smoother, I now this is beta, but seriously Google please do not release Chrome v25 and still be less smooth than stock browser.
I like all the features, and it's nice that has better benchmark scores, but it's still kinda laggy/stuttery while scrolling. Not buttery smooth like AOSP Browser or Dolphin Beta.
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Try using www.theverge.com, IMO ASOP is still smoother, I now this is beta, but seriously Google please do not release Chrome v25 and still be less smooth than stock browser.
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Well that's the whole point of Beta.
Chrome Stable (how it was before today)
Chrome Beta (how it is today)
I personally don't feel any lag on Chrome and feels as smooth as AOSP browser. I never felt any lag on Chrome, but I do like AOSP Browser simply because it's Holo themed.
Is it just me or have they changed the page formatting for the beta? One thing I've always like about Chrome on Android is that pages are rendered and formatted so that text is nice and legible by default without having to zoom in all the time.
With this beta, page rendering seems to mirror AOSP and other browsers now. The same web site doesn't display the same in stable and beta.
Attached screenshots to show what I mean
just tried and still as disappointing as ever. won't use until smoothness is at least as buttery as aosp browser
So far, Chrome beta works perfectly, no input lag, scrolls nice and fast and smooth. Stock ROM, rooted, Franco v30 kernel.
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So far, Chrome beta works perfectly, no input lag, scrolls nice and fast and smooth. Stock ROM, rooted, Franco v30 kernel.
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I just tried it using the desktop verge and it seems to be significantly smoother. But, use chrome only as my second browser. [AOSP browser smoothness + full screen + quick controls = WIN!!] .
So, have replaced the std. chrome with chrome beta for now. I hope they add support for full screen and gesture controls. [ the current swipe from edge to switch tabs is quite diff to do one handed]
Been using it since last night, seems faster but there are still little niggles to it. But it's labeled beta so I can't complain. Just give it time and it will be as fast as chrome on Linux.
EDIT: Sorry, bit of a derp there. I meant as fast as it is on Ubuntu etc. Android is Linux Lol.
A Nexus Connoisseur!! AOSPA!! Franco Kernel!!
Weird, the other day I was wondering why we don't have a Chrome Beta for Mobile devices.
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Sweet! I'm not going to worry about the minute performance hiccups. It's nice to know I'm on the latest and greatest.
I've had the Tab S 10.5 for about a month now and the lag while using everyday apps is driving me crazy. My top three offenders are:
1. Chrome
2. Play Newsstand
3. Play Store
I've done the following to help improve things:
- Changed launcher to Nova.
- Disabled bloatware (everything I can without rooting).
- Installed Chrome Samsung support library.
3D heavy games seem to run fine. My last tablet was a HP touchpad running CM11 so I am used to dealing with a few quirks. I stepped up to the Tab S to get away from some of that though. I know Android is infamous for scroll stutter, but it seems to me that a flagship tablet should easily beat out a bootleg touchpad.
Is this on par? Also, does anyone else's tab s get really hot around the touch screen near the Samsung logo? Maybe the Nexus 9 is worth another look. :silly:
Thanks for your comments.
Edit: I've read similar posts on lag. It seems like the argument boils down to: 1. Personal perception or 2. A mysterious "bad batch" of hardware.
i did the same steps,my tab is full of apps and games but i have 0 lag and the browsing is also fcking smooth. In the settings i also turned of features like dual window.
Are you sure you turned off fully power saving mode? About heating,if i play a game like gta or hearthstone i can also feel a warm area under samsung logo but is not hot and pretty common if you play games.
edith and use chrome beta instead of the standard chrome
Chrome lags on the tab s. Happens to most people. To fix over heating i installed a custom kernel that would optimise and prevent heating. Some big games do lag aswell.
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i did the same steps,my tab is full of apps and games but i have 0 lag and the browsing is also fcking smooth. In the settings i also turned of features like dual window.
Are you sure you turned off fully power saving mode? About heating,if i play a game like gta or hearthstone i can also feel a warm area under samsung logo but is not hot and pretty common if you play games.
edith and use chrome beta instead of the standard chrome
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I am already using chrome beta. The stock broswer is smoother.
can you upload a video to see the lag we are talking about?
I want to buy this tablet, and Ive read many posts about lag... but actually, is it very annoying? is there any video to see it?
Latiosman said:
can you upload a video to see the lag we are talking about?
I want to buy this tablet, and Ive read many posts about lag... but actually, is it very annoying? is there any video to see it?
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Only on certain apps. Chrome and a few others. On some games it just lags on loading screen but not during gameplay. Watch a veiw reviews on youtube. Theres some videos talking about the lag. Touchwiz launcher also has lag but can be fixed.
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can you upload a video to see the lag we are talking about?
I want to buy this tablet, and Ive read many posts about lag... but actually, is it very annoying? is there any video to see it?
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I think it depends on your perception of lag and what apps you mainly use. In my case, Chrome and Newsstand are always up so I see the lag constantly. I wish I had a Nexus 9 side by side for comparison. If I get a chance I'll take a video, but it might be hard to see. I played with a demo model at Best Buy and it seemed faster than mine as well.
I came from a iPad mini 2 (last year's model) to this tablet. As smooth as my iPad was I have to say I have very little if any lag on mine. It's runs beautifully for me. I'm OCD, any bit of lag would drive me up the wall. I really don't notice hardly anything. I'm still running bone stock everything minus using Nova launcher. Don't even feel like I need to root or flash anything. Although I'm going to once there is a root released for my model. Maybe I'm just lucky I don't know. Have had zero issues.
I'm used to an overloaded gs3 so this looks ultra smooth to me [emoji3]
It lags more with multiple user logged in, always reboot of you don't need the additional user
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I came from a iPad mini 2 (last year's model) to this tablet. As smooth as my iPad was I have to say I have very little if any lag on mine. It's runs beautifully for me. I'm OCD, any bit of lag would drive me up the wall. I really don't notice hardly anything. I'm still running bone stock everything minus using Nova launcher. Don't even feel like I need to root or flash anything. Although I'm going to once there is a root released for my model. Maybe I'm just lucky I don't know. Have had zero issues.
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For example, this thread's website lags a great deal in chrome beta when scrolling. Other sites aren't too bad. Newsstand is the worst though. Are you using the stock broswer?
This site does lag a little when scrolling. That I do have to admit. For whatever reason it doesn't really bother me however. I've never noticed any scroll stutter on stock android so I attribute it to touchwiz. This thing debloated or running a custom rom probably flys. I imagine any scroll stutter would be gone at that point.
I use the stock browser. I was never a fan of chrome. I know that on touchwiz your going to get the best performance from the stock browser unless there's a fix I'm unaware of which could be a possibility. Newsstand I actually haven't used so I can't speak for it. TouchWiz is just eating up so much ram. I'm like always at 1.5 to 2 gigs of ram with nothing running (other then the tons of unnecessary system apps I can't terminate) That is pretty ridiculous to me. Is touchwiz smooth as stock android? Definitely not. But I really have little to no lag other then scroll stutter on certain sites. I'm still going to root and debloat this thing when it's available for my model so I can truly experience the power of this tablet.
Lol, chrome sucks
It's about time Samsung optimised their flagship device. Had 3 since July and they all lag, stutter when scrolling and render pics poorly. Nova didnt fix the problems and changing some apps like using chrome beta marginally helped.
About time they fixed this via an update rather than just forget about the device and launch more/different models. Samsung will always fail unless it focuses on a core product set and spend the time making the hardware work properly with the software.
I was attacked when I first got my first device for stating lag. Whether an first time user or someone who doesn't want to root (glad I didn't after having 3 replacements), I shouldn't have to kill apps, install different roms and root.
Certain other OS fix problems like these quickly. Where's support from Samsung??
I have the note 4, their es8000 led TV, fridge freezer and various other bits so I'm not a Samsung hater by any means, just someone who expects upgrades to fix problems.
It's hard to determine how much lag is there until you run the same apps side by side with another tablet.
Over Xmas I got a chance to do just that. Ran S 10.5 side by side with my sister's nexus 7 2013. Both running kit kat (hers is 4.4.3 instead of 4.4.2).
Play Store and chrome both run smoother on hers, less jerking and stopping when scrolling. Tapatalk about same. She has Google now launcher, feels faster and smoother than nova launcher on mine. Overall, every thing just feels a little smoother and more fluid.
Granted, the nexus is 1920x1200 so it's pushing fewer pixels around, but the nexus is one year older and I paid $179 for it vs $379 for the S.
I think Samsung slapped on the OLED display and said heh, good enough. Which is true because I bought it
Custom Rom?
I made a rom that is all stock, just a few optimisations. Better performance, better batterylife and so on, here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/prerooted-stock-touchwiz-rom-t2973107
I'd use only stock browser, if it had a full screen option and some gestures, but nope.
My alternative browser is maxthon pioneer, it has everything but stutters a lot
I've had my S 10 since August....I don't like chrome, never have, but after reading all this I opened chrome and came to this forum and I see no issues at all. NONE, other than I don't like chrome
I'm stock not rooted or ROMed. I have Apex launcher installed since day one and disabled all the Samsung and google bloat I could disable.
I have no issues with this tablet other than posting on some forums is a little quirky but that's just the way things are. I normally use Dolphin with the Jetpack or Boat Browser for tablet.
I love this tablet! Sure beats the stuffing out of my Asus TF700T! What a total POC that is!
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I'd use only stock browser, if it had a full screen option and some gestures, but nope.
My alternative browser is maxthon pioneer, it has everything but stutters a lot
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I just throw in a wipe cache once every few days, and stock browser experience is very smooth, even with the second account logged on, with Facebook, dropbox, carousel and plenty other services in background
Don't worry about the Lag
This lag on Tab S is only temporarily, the Android 5.0 will get rid of 90% of the lag. I know this for fact because I have Note 3 with Touch-wiz it lags often, after installing Android 5.0 I have NOT ONCE run into lag after 1 month of using it.
As of now, the Tab S is supporting android 5.0 cm 12 which there should definitely be no lag but again its unofficial ROM as of now, there are still things they are working on. Samsung's android 5.0 will get rid significant amount of lag, because Android 5.0 have 60 fps animation smoothness, and efficient RAM usage.
I've also heard rumors Samsung is working to refreshing their Touchwiz Interface with slim amount of lag. So, the future is promising.
As of now, if you really can't stand the lag, Install the Android 5.0 ROM for Cm 12, there are afew things not working in their such as Camera, NFC or something else, but the usage should show NO LAG!!!
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As of now, if you really can't stand the lag, Install the Android 5.0 ROM for Cm 12, there are afew things not working in their such as Camera, NFC or something else, but the usage should show NO LAG!!!
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Cyanogenmod for Galaxy tab S??