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***T-Mobile GAB Sim Card***

So ive been doing researches cuz i would like to get my "WIFI Calling" to work...
So i called T-mobile to see they had a solution for me...
And this is what they said:
They told me that the Normal Sim Card i have is not supported to use WIFI Calling.....
So the guy said that i need to buy a "GAB SIM CARD" that supports WIFI Calling and its price is $20
I even Google it to see how they look but didn't find it...
What do you guys think?
Should i buy it or is there another way to do it without buying this SIM CARD
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I had to get a new one for it to work as well.
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That's bull****, they should have updated your SIM card when you bought the phone off of them unless of course you didn't buy it from them

jwalker279 said:
I had to get a new one for it to work as well.
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Hey but how much did you pay for yours?
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romny19 said:
Hey but how much did you pay for yours?
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That's funny. Both of mine came with their new SIM card. I don't know why they're charging you for one.

Beefvvl said:
That's funny. Both of mine came with their new SIM card. I don't know why they're charging you for one.
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I called... But tomorrow ima go to the store and ask for one acting like if they were free to see if they give me one lol
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sim cards are and should be free from t-mobile. go to your local store.
BUT, when you got your phone (if you bought it from t-mobile) it should have come with a sim card, that supports wifi calling. That's what I had to do, had them activate the sim that came with my galaxy s2, and then started using it instead. and bam wifi calling

It sounds like you went to a dealer.
Not every t-mobile store is operated by t-mobile. Many of them are dealer stores that charge whatever they want.
Dealer stores are usually pre pay only, but there are some authorized to collect commission off contracts and that have access to t-mobiles "quickview" account software. (Quickview is the system the infamous SOC codes are set up in.)
A lot of dealers incorporate sleazy practices and do not conform to the standards set by t-mobile. They do things like charge egregious amounts of money on SIM cards, and may not honor the return polices set by t-mobile. They also sell lots of "out of production" phones they get at good deals ex. Lg-g2x for under 240 dollars wholesale and resell for over 550.
Call t-mobile and ask for a corporate store, not a dealer store.
T-mobile seems to allows this since "money is money"
As for the SIM card I don't think it has anything more than you're IMSI and your half of the encryption cypher, (for establishing a network connection) and some limited memory regarding contacts and previous network connection frequencies . . . The fact that your SIM card did not support wifi calling is most likely because t-mobile identified it a a card not to allow access to for whatever reason. I don't believe there is a technical deficiency in you're old SIM preventing such a technology, or support in you're new one for that matter.
But then again, I am no expert. If anyone knows more please share.
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They give you free sim cards at the tmo store. I've already went and got 2 of them for free

Thanks guys!!!!
Thats good info and ima go today
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I got it for free at the store.
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jwalker279 said:
I got it for free at the store.
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I had to pay $20 :/
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romny19 said:
So ive been doing researches cuz i would like to get my "WIFI Calling" to work...
So i called T-mobile to see they had a solution for me...
And this is what they said:
They told me that the Normal Sim Card i have is not supported to use WIFI Calling.....
So the guy said that i need to buy a "GAB SIM CARD" that supports WIFI Calling and its price is $20
I even Google it to see how they look but didn't find it...
What do you guys think?
Should i buy it or is there another way to do it without buying this SIM CARD
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I just went into the store and told them I needed a new sim card because mine wouldn't work with wifi calling. 5 minutes and no money later I had a new SIM

casper200519 said:
I just went into the store and told them I needed a new sim card because mine wouldn't work with wifi calling. 5 minutes and no money later I had a new SIM
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Nice dude. same thing happened to me few months back. Customer service wanted to charge me, along with the website. But the local store just gave me one like it was Christmas.
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romny19 said:
I had to pay $20 :/
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Why would you pay for it? They are free

Because TMobile likes to get every dime they can. Usually they are free in the corporate owned stores.....franchises have the option to charge
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tjbiker031 said:
Because TMobile likes to get every dime they can. Usually they are free in the corporate owned stores.....franchises have the option to charge
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Oh, you went to one of those...that sucks

romny19 said:
I had to pay $20 :/
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Initially they told me $20 too...but I explained to them in a very gruff voice that I give them over $200 a month and I am completely done with my contract and would be happy to switch carriers. Manager came out and gave me the SIM. Since that day I always go to that store and the Manager normally sweetens my purchase with a discount on what I buy.
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romny19 said:
I had to pay $20 :/
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Wow dude you got burned I've gotten so many sim cards for free from tmobile is crazy.
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shnn2011 said:
As for the SIM card I don't think it has anything more than you're IMSI and your half of the encryption cypher, (for establishing a network connection) and some limited memory regarding contacts and previous network connection frequencies . . . The fact that your SIM card did not support wifi calling is most likely because t-mobile identified it a a card not to allow access to for whatever reason. I don't believe there is a technical deficiency in you're old SIM preventing such a technology, or support in you're new one for that matter.
But then again, I am no expert. If anyone knows more please share.
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T-Mobile is actually using new type of SIM cards - GBA cards that allow WiFi calling via the SIM, and the device must support it as well - you must have a GBA SIM and a compatible device for this type of WiFi calling to work.
If I remember correctly, only the Galaxy S2 and the HTC Amaze support WiFi Calling through the SIM, rest of the devices have it using the app.

Good News Coming Soon for ATT Prepaid Users!

Hello All,
For those who are planning to switch to ATT prepaid accounts, beware that starting next week ATT will be releasing their new prepaid "4g" packages which are kind of improved.
I've only the confirmation of one package which is for 65$ unlimited voice and text and 1GB data (so you save 10$ since you would be paying 50+25 before).
I am not sure if there will be any improvements to the existing data package limits though.
Also for new smartphone users, it's NOW double hard for them to get unlimited data on 50$ plan. ATT is ABLE to detect your IMEI number whenever you plug your sim into a new phone. Although for international users, it will not show up as their exact make and model but they WILL know if it's a smartphone or not (they now treat it as a smartphone if the make and model does not show up).
Just wanted to share an insider knowledge with those who need it.

shadowyman said:
Hello All,
For those who are planning to switch to ATT prepaid account, beware that starting next week ATT will be releasing their prepaid "4g" packages which are kind of improved.
I've only confirmation of one package which is for 65$ unlimited voice and text plus 1GB data (so you save 10$ since you would be paying 50+25 before).
I am not sure if there will be any improvements to the data package limits though.
Also for new smartphone users, it's NOW double hard for them to get unlimited data on 50$ plan. ATT is ABLE to detect your IMEI number whenever you plug your sim into a new phone. Although for international users, it will not show up as their exact make and model but they WILL know if it's a smartphone or not.
Just wanted to share an insider knowledge with those who need it.
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What proof do you have that it's "double hard" I
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What proof do you have that it's "double hard" I
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Try to set up a new account with a smart phone and manage to get data on 50$. You will see what I mean.

shadowyman said:
Try to set up a new account with a smart phone and manage to get data on 50$. You will see what I mean.
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I'm asking if you have any sources.
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why are you posting this in international forum?

Thread moved to AT&T forum

Sorry about opening in the wrong place. As an unlocked phone user i felt like this might be more interesting to unlocked phone users since usually att s3 phones have post paid contract phones.

shadowyman said:
Sorry about opening in the wrong place. As an unlocked phone user i felt like this might be more interesting to unlocked phone users since usually att s3 phones have post paid contract phones.
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No worries,
we just felt the information would be more relevant to a larger user base who is using AT&T as opposed to the international community where the AT&T users are a minority

I don't suppose this will finally allow for LTE access on prepaid?
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I just bought my prepaid go phone, activated my sim card with 50 unlimited plan. All working fine on the basic phone. Then cut my sim and switched sim to my gs3 and sim can not be read. After 20 restarts on my gs3 . SIM not valid. I called att and talked to a representative and gave him my IMEI and. Boom he told me: ok i just linked your sim to your galaxy s3 . Only call and text. Data not working "(
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Forgot to mention. My gs3 its original from att but already Unlocked. Im using it on tmobile with a 30 $ unlimited plan. But stuck on edge.
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viruz1225 said:
I just bought my prepaid go phone, activated my sim card with 50 unlimited plan. All working fine on the basic phone. Then cut my sim and switched sim to my gs3 and sim can not be read. After 20 restarts on my gs3 . SIM not valid. I called att and talked to a representative and gave him my IMEI and. Boom he told me: ok i just linked your sim to your galaxy s3 . Only call and text. Data not working "(
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Forgot to mention. My gs3 its original from att but already Unlocked. Im using it on tmobile with a 30 $ unlimited plan. But stuck on edge.
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If you're not set on ATT if I were you I'd just hop over to Straight Talk

Why would you spend all that money on a phone that has 4G and not be able to use it. Just seems ridiculous to me. You won't be able to get data working on a $50 gophone data plan. You have to get the 65 dollar option.
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rquinn19 said:
If you're not set on ATT if I were you I'd just hop over to Straight Talk
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I agree, data will be slow for HSPA+ standards (i dont think it is hspa+). prepaid data isnt supposed to work on smartphones unless u purchase their separate data which is edge speeds.
prepaid is great for everything except data. if you find yourself on wifi the majority of the time then its not a problem.

My s3 running prepaid 50 unlim everything. Including 4g data no throttle.
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New to T Mobile..

Couple of questions?
I was approved for up to 10 lines with no deposits and wanted to add 3 lines. Ok so me and my brother, mom, and stepdad have been on a cricket family plan forever... but now that im on TMO, I wanted to bring them all over to TMO... simple right just pick up 3 N4's... here is my dilemma...
My brother who will be on the plan isnt a problem (he will get a N4), however my Mom and stepdad don't need an N4 while my sister and her husband (who are on TMO with an adequate pair of mytouch 4G's) would love the N4..
QUESTIONS
1. Can I add 3 lines (thru the online $50 N4 w/ 2yr contract) and then when the phones arrive simply give 2 of the N4's to my sister and her husband in exchange for their MyTouch 4Gs, and ultimately just have them insert their sims into the N4s for it to work or maybe after upgrading to lte sims? While having my mom and stepdad insert their (im presuming lte sims) into the MyTouch 4Gs without any problems...
Sorry if this is completely newbish or doesnt make any sense... just trying to do something nice without having to spend 100 extra bucks (+ two unnecessary 2yr contracts) but will if I have to haha)
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I think, as long as all the phones are on TMO, you can swap SIM cards without any problem.
That was your question, right?

diffence between two is.
Mytouch 4G Regular Sim.
N4 micro Sim.
you might need to get a new sim card or adapter .

1. If my mom and stepdad have their N4 LTE sim cards in my sister and her husbands MyTouch 4Gs and vice versa, my sister amd her husband stick their non-LTE MyTouch 4G sims into the N4's... all 4 phones will completely work?
2. Since my sister and her husband obviously have their own plan('s), will this affect anything or will they go on paying their bill, as will I, normally without a hitch?
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microamd said:
diffence between two is.
Mytouch 4G Regular Sim.
N4 micro Sim.
you might need to get a new sim card or adapter .
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So is it possible to ask TMO to link your number up to a sim that doesnt "work with" the phone you are signed up to pay them for 2 years lol
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You can buy a T-Mo phone and sell it for all they care, just get the phone paid for (as in monthly payments if applicable) and don't report it as lost, if you have an insurance replacement. As for the difference in SIM cards, anyone can go into a T-Mo store anywhere and get a new SIM as long as they have an account in good standing. No charge for SIM and you can put it in, activate it online yourself. Easy.
I've done all these without hassle.

So if my sister and her husband are still making payments on their MyTouch 4Gs then it wont work?
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PhxDroid86 said:
Couple of questions?
I was approved for up to 10 lines with no deposits and wanted to add 3 lines. Ok so me and my brother, mom, and stepdad have been on a cricket family plan forever... but now that im on TMO, I wanted to bring them all over to TMO... simple right just pick up 3 N4's... here is my dilemma...
My brother who will be on the plan isnt a problem (he will get a N4), however my Mom and stepdad don't need an N4 while my sister and her husband (who are on TMO with an adequate pair of mytouch 4G's) would love the N4..
QUESTIONS
1. Can I add 3 lines (thru the online $50 N4 w/ 2yr contract) and then when the phones arrive simply give 2 of the N4's to my sister and her husband in exchange for their MyTouch 4Gs, and ultimately just have them insert their sims into the N4s for it to work or maybe after upgrading to lte sims? While having my mom and stepdad insert their (im presuming lte sims) into the MyTouch 4Gs without any problems...
Sorry if this is completely newbish or doesnt make any sense... just trying to do something nice without having to spend 100 extra bucks (+ two unnecessary 2yr contracts) but will if I have to haha)
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U need to buy 2 new regular tmo sims. When u go to activate ur sim online, u have to enter the sim id code and with a phone number, it can be any number. When tmo sends u lte sims, just add ur bro in law and sis to those sim cards. Parents, ud have to regular sim cards
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There are no issues here... Doesn't matter if phones are paid off or not, as long as they're not reported as lost or stolen. As someone stated above, all you need is the proper SIM cards or adapters for the smaller SIMs to work in the MT4g

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If everyones on tmo, which u say are, then yes its possible.
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Everthing ive read makes it seem very feasible but just wanted to verify I can swap sims between separate plans and that actual sims will work between phones
So far it seems N4 is microSIM while MyTouch 4G is regular SIM... how would I solve this issue
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eurohomie said:
There are no issues here... Doesn't matter if phones are paid off or not, as long as they're not reported as lost or stolen. As someone stated above, all you need is the proper SIM cards or adapters for the smaller SIMs to work in the MT4g
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Sweet, so here is my plan of attack
Tomorrow:
Buy 3 N4s each with 2 year contracts and 2 sim adapters
Then:
Wait for everthing to come in
Then:
Call by brother up and tell him to come pick up his phone (cancel his cricket line) and transfer his number to the N4
Then:
Call my sister, her husband, mom and stepdad and tell them to come over with their phones. Give the 2 MyTouch4Gs, 2 N4 SIMs and 2 Adapters to my mom and stepdad and close out their two Cricket lines and transfer their 2 numbers to the N4sims (MyTouch4G's).
Then give the 2 N4s to my sister and her husband (would they need adapters too... how do you fit a Mytouch4G regular SIM into a MicroSIM slot on the N4?)
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im asuming my sister and her husband will have to activate their lines onto microsims and then since they will use the N4, just not use the adapter
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how do you fit a Mytouch4G regular SIM into a MicroSIM slot on the N4?
You need to do the Tardis mod to you Nexus 4. You do have to be rooted for it.
Actually you can cut your sim, buy a punch or call a few shops and see if they have a sim punch.
http://www.airportal.de/nanosim/

PhxDroid86 said:
im asuming my sister and her husband will have to activate their lines onto microsims and then since they will use the N4, just not use the adapter
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Easiest way would be to get the 2 adapters for your parents sim to work on the mytouch 4g. As for your sister and her husband they should just ask for new micro sim cars which cost $10 each and they can keep the same number with one call. That's what I would do at least.

Thanks everyone for your input... got the answers I needed, now just have to hope the note 2 doesn't go on sale for super cheap within the next few months
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PhxDroid86 said:
Thanks everyone for your input... got the answers I needed, now just have to hope the note 2 doesn't go on sale for super cheap within the next few months
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Don't feel so bad its an amazing phone well worth whatever price you paid! I just got mine last week

I know it is... have one myself and hate to do the nice thing now (getting 3 N4s) if in 2-3 months the note 2 is super cheap lol
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PhxDroid86 said:
I know it is... have one myself and hate to do the nice thing now (getting 3 N4s) if in 2-3 months the note 2 is super cheap lol
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So just a bit of an update..
Tomorrow three N4s will be on the way...
1 for my older brother (who will surely let me mod to my hearts desire )
Two others, 1 for his twin sister and the other for her husband (who so happens to be the guy who got me into rooting/modding android... knows his s***)
A few things left standing are whether I can have multiple tmobile accounts/plans? As I currently have an individual "value" plan but "internet N4 deal" requires "classic" plan. Furthermore, will Tmobile allow me to switch out of my value plan, just 2 months into it, without early term penalty?
So far I figure the puchase to be $300 plus tax (~$360) upfront. If im unable to merge my account into a classic plan than those 3 separate lines will be $218/mo. If I can merge than im assuming I would just add 30-35 to the $218 monthly...
Considering I was payin $223 just a few months ago for 1 huawei ascend and 3 ZTE X500s through cricket, im pretty happy with the overall trade off...
To think, $1000 total (only $650 if you include mail-in rebates) for 1 GNII and 3 N4s ! LOL ! while going from slow 3G to fast 4G (better service) and increased the monthly by barely $30/mo lol
How long is shipping, or if there is any back orders, as my mom stepdad and brother maybe without phones for sometime
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2/18/13... so heres the scoop.
No, T MOBILE didnt let me switch my GNII individual "Value" plan to (required for online sale) "Classic" plan without paying additional termination fees etc.
I also wasnt able to add a separate account under the same name. Nor would the deal work on a "Value" family plan as the down payment increased to 200 per line and 20/mo for 20 months would be added per line to the monthly
But was still able to capitalize on the online deal by just having my stepdad put the required "Classic" plan under his name. As a simple breakdown
1 "Classic" family plan for 3 lines
3 Nexus 4's for 339 down after tax and 2 day shipping
Monthly unlimited Talk Text and Data for 218/month
Throw in my phone line and its 293 total a month for all 4 lines...
Im stoked, especially knowing that ill be getting 350 bucks back in rebates over the next few weeks
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Have unlock code from AT&T, how do I unlock without having non AT&T sim card?

I got my unlock code directly from AT&T. I do not have another carrier sim card to place in the phone (that will fit, this is a smaller than standard size sim card). There are people in my office that have T-mobile, sprint, or Virgin but have full size sim cards.
Any suggestions or instructions??
Thanks!!

I've heard about a few people going into t mobile and asking to borrow one. They shouldnt mind they are probably thinking you'll use on tmob after unlocking
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Makoers said:
I've heard about a few people going into t mobile and asking to borrow one. They shouldnt mind they are probably thinking you'll use on tmob after unlocking
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I'm wondering - would a SIM from an AT&T MVNO (such as RedPocket) be considered a "non AT&T SIM card" for purposes of unlocking?

I just bought an "H20 Wireless" micro sim card on Ebay for .99.
Hopefully it will do the trick...will post an update (if anyone cares) if it does or doesn't work when I receive it.

Why don't you just store the code and use it when you get any non att sim? I mean, why waste money, even a $, unless well you have a willing non att friend who can lend you his sim.
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diablo009 said:
Why don't you just store the code and use it when you get any non att sim? I mean, why waste money, even a $, unless well you have a willing non att friend who can lend you his sim.
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Because I just got a Galaxy S 4 and I'm selling the phone. You wouldn't spend a $1???

Gotta spend money to make money sometimes haha
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pierre3408 said:
Because I just got a Galaxy S 4 and I'm selling the phone. You wouldn't spend a $1???
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Got it. I didn't think of selling phone. I was thinking on my lines given that I am a frequent traveler, and get code from AT&T within 90 days or earlier of getting a new phone.

OK. so i put the H2O sim card in and reboted several times and all I get is "sim card not provisioned".
So I just borrowed a Verizon sim card from someone in the office that has a Verizon Galaxy S III and got the same thing.
I am not being prompted for an unlock code?
What Am I doing wrong???

Live in U.S. going to Ireland

Traveling to Ireland with the wife for three weeks, wondering if there is a easy and cheap way to get my phone to work in Ireland? Buy a burner while I'm there, or unlock my phone and buy mins? What converter for charging can i use without putting a hurt on my phone or battery, Not sure that's why I'm asking, any suggestions are welcomed, thanks.
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blaker13 said:
Traveling to Ireland with the wife for three weeks, wondering if there is a easy and cheap way to get my phone to work in Ireland? Buy a burner while I'm there, or unlock my phone and buy mins? What converter for charging can i use without putting a hurt on my phone or battery, Not sure that's why I'm asking, any suggestions are welcomed, thanks.
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I'd say the easiest way would be to unlock and buy some mins over there (along with one of their carrier's sim card, usually about 10$). That way you don't get charged for roaming.
You might have to flash another modem once you're there but you'll see by yourself if yours is fine or not.

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I'd say the easiest way would be to unlock and buy some mins over there (along with one of their carrier's sim card, usually about 10$). That way you don't get charged for roaming.
You might have to flash another modem once you're there but you'll see by yourself if yours is fine or not.
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Do I just goto a phone store there
And ask to buy a sim?
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Do I just goto a phone store there
And ask to buy a sim?
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Pretty much. I duno the carriers over there but usually that's what you'd do. Go in, explain you're staying for a couple weeks and wanna use their service. They should sell you a pay as you go sim with some mins.
You can always check with the carriers before hand.

I was in Uk couple a month ago I unlocked my sim card and use 3mobile service it give me unlimeted Data 300 min and 500 text for 15 pound no setup fee just put your sim in the phone and you are ok ( whatsapp & viber and vonage worked perfectly )

Did you use the unlock method in the dialpad? Can I but a sim card online so I'm setup when I arrive? And when I get back I just put my att Sim back in and wallah?
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Do I just goto a phone store there
And ask to buy a sim?
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am pretty sure there is a software that unlock your phone for free or send it to a store and they will unlock it with easy costs before going to ireland
its easier to unlock or get service for your phone here in US compared to Ireland..................

winosxbuntu said:
am pretty sure there is a software that unlock your phone for free or send it to a store and they will unlock it with easy costs before going to ireland
its easier to unlock or get service for your phone here in US compared to Ireland..................
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Yea att won't unlock unless my 2yr contact is up, even though I've been a customer for ten yrs(kinda bs in my opinion) I can just unlock through dialpad... was going to get a Sim online, but I guess it's Vodafone, looks like you have to goto a store there.
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Soft unlock works. It's much cheaper to buy a local sim.
blaker13 said:
Yea att won't unlock unless my 2yr contact is up, even though I've been a customer for ten yrs(kinda bs in my opinion) I can just unlock through dialpad... was going to get a Sim online, but I guess it's Vodafone, looks like you have to goto a store there.
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I bought a "3" Ireland sum from someone on eBay for my daughter.. check around.. they are one if the few carriers you can get like 1gb of internet for like 49 bucks.
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