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Give me a good reason to put the new SIM card in

Is there any reason to put the new SIM card that came with my phone in? I put in the same one that I've been using for years (Dash->G1->G2->SGS2) and it works fine. 4G shows at the top of the screen. I haven't tried a speed test yet, but I'd bet I get 4G speeds the same way I did on my G2.
So, what good reason is there?

Right now, there is no reason. When the wifi calling becomes available it will require the new Sim.
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do you have some sort of sentimental connection to that sim? why not just use the new one to make sure yoour up to date?

Where did you guys find the new sim card? Is it in the plastic wrapper with the manual/user guide? I don't see it in the box and I haven't opened up the plastic wrapping the manual/user guide is wrapped in. Fyi I did buy my phone from a T-Mobile.
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Lucas155 said:
Is there any reason to put the new SIM card that came with my phone in? I put in the same one that I've been using for years (Dash->G1->G2->SGS2) and it works fine. 4G shows at the top of the screen. I haven't tried a speed test yet, but I'd bet I get 4G speeds the same way I did on my G2.
So, what good reason is there?
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I replaced my five yr old sim card with it because my old one seemingly caused some bad 3g data issues. I found this out by swapping sim cards with a friend who just signed with T-Mobile and an SGS2. I replaced my old one with the one that came with the SGS2 and now I'm not only seeing improved 3g speeds but also better call reception.
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Quick question, my sim is about 3 months old. Will it work with wifi calling when it is released or is the SIM in the box even more "updated" than a 3 month old sim?

mikea3000 said:
Quick question, my sim is about 3 months old. Will it work with wifi calling when it is released or is the SIM in the box even more "updated" than a 3 month old sim?
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No, the GS2 and Amaze 4G are the first phones to shop with the new sim cards.
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You need new Sim in order to get ota updates.
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You need new Sim in order to get ota updates.
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Are you sure about this? where Did you get this information? sounds a bit unrealistic that ota. Uupdates are tied to the sim in the box.

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Are you sure about this? where Did you get this information? sounds a bit unrealistic that ota. Uupdates are tied to the sim in the box.
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They aren't. They are tied to IMEI's. Two things you really need it for; 1. If you want to use WiFi calling after the maintenance update in a couple weeks, you will absolutely have to have this SIM card. No questions. It will not work. 2. After time, the older SIM cards will fail. This could lead to data access, call drop, sms sending/receiving and signal issues. If you have one now to activate, saves you a call and a trip to the local store for a replacement.

In the tmobile system we have 2 classifications of Sims. 2g (your dash) and 3g (hspa+).. make your conclusions
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Lucas155 said:
Is there any reason to put the new SIM card that came with my phone in? I put in the same one that I've been using for years (Dash->G1->G2->SGS2) and it works fine. 4G shows at the top of the screen. I haven't tried a speed test yet, but I'd bet I get 4G speeds the same way I did on my G2.
So, what good reason is there?
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Actually the new Sim is a completely new revision designed for the high speed 4g network. It also has the gold contacts in a different design which is part of it look at old and new Sims if you don't believe me. I forgot the name of the new Sim but its what was taught and explained for tmobile techs (tier 2 and up support). Also most stores do not have this Sim revision in yet so use the one supplied in your box. 90% of most tmobile employees have no idea about the new Sim and only guess when asked.
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In the tmobile system we have 2 classifications of Sims. 2g (your dash) and 3g (hspa+).. make your conclusions
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Your dash? The dash also later came in a 3g version. Also hspa+ is our 4g version and hspa is 3g.
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that 90% is a little exxagerrated.. we have trainings on the subject
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Actually the new Sim is a completely new revision designed for the high speed 4g network. It also has the gold contacts in a different design which is part of it look at old and new Sims if you don't believe me. I forgot the name of the new Sim but its what was taught and explained for tmobile techs (tier 2 support). Also most stores do not have this Sim revision in yet so use the one supplied in your box. 90% of most tmobile employees have no idea about the new Sim and only guess when asked.
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Not trying to be rude but your part of the 90% I was referring to.
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Yes but the similar supplied by the company during that time was our 2g sim.. the 3g sim didn't come till ppst-g1 era.. and still inventory of Sims were mixed
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Your dash? The dash also later came in a 3g version.
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How do you come to that conclusion.. the size and shape of the gold has changed multiple times over the last few years so your point is invalid.. TECHNICALLY the only difference with new Sims for our device and amaze is for the new WIFI calling network. As of Nov 12 wifi calling will not work on our phones with older sim cards
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Yes but those were different revisions and also had a different contact design. Please I am not arguing with you but I am correct on this matter.
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Lol OK lets not argue
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Yes but those were different revisions and also had a different contact design. Please I am not arguing with you but I am correct on this matter.
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How do you come to that conclusion.. the size and shape of the gold has changed multiple times over the last few years so your point is invalid.. TECHNICALLY the only difference with new Sims for our device and amaze is for the new WIFI calling network. As of Nov 12 wifi calling will not work on our phones with older sim cards
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I don't know what idiot told you that is all it was designed for and I doubt that was sent from us at corporate. What's your name T-Mobile associate? You can pm me and I will look it up tommorrow to show you what you should have learned correctly. Also per tmobile policy which you signed when hired you need to remove the tmobile associate title on your xda account credentials if you are a tmobile employee.
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Does att block imei?

I have been chatting with this girl on Craig list who wants to get rid of her sgs3 to help pay for an iphone later this week....
I know all the sprint / tmobile phones on Craig list eventually are blocked for non payment / reported stolen...
To my understanding att doesn't care about this stuff... At least last year the un didn't..
Is that still the case? Don't want to get this good deal on a phone just to have to unlock and sell it again..
Want to buy it for my sister
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Yes at&t now DOES block imeis. Ask her to meet at a store to confirm the device is legit.
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They do indeed imei block now.

No they dont i know this for a fact i have 3 broken contract phones and they all work they would rather have money from prepaid service then all that ****
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JB calhoun said:
No they dont i know this for a fact i have 3 broken contract phones and they all work they would rather have money from prepaid service then all that ****
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Actually yes att does block imeis for stolen devices. I work for them and it just came out. Its called blocklisting. Will not work on att and if you put an att sim in it it will suspend your service.
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Justinfedor said:
Actually yes att does block imeis for stolen devices. I work for them and it just came out. Its called blocklisting. Will not work on att and if you put an att sim in it it will suspend your service.
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What if somebody opens an att account.. Sells their phone on Craig list and stops payments to it.. Will att block the phone they got with the contract?
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Just meet up at the store make the purchase there. If the seller is unwilling to go there then tell them to screw off. They will have security cameras all over the place so there is evidence that this person is selling you the phone; and you will also have a witness that this is taking place so if later they claim that they never sold it to you and it was in fact stolen then you have some evidence in your corner. Legally speaking nothing is concrete but you have to think as litigious as possible because scum is everywhere.
And if you want to get really ridiculous you could type up a document stating that they will in fact pay in full the remainder of the contract and/or pay any fees necessary to keep "the specific ImeI" from being blocked from att service. You would have to have them sign it in front of a witness and a notary. If I were spending more than 400 bucks I would get this ridiculous. Then if you have to take them to small claims court this contract will be as good as any other contract and any judge worth a damn will force them to pay the damages.
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waiters said:
What if somebody opens an att account.. Sells their phone on Craig list and stops payments to it.. Will att block the phone they got with the contract?
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Att only blocks if the owner calls and reports it stolen and contacts device blocklist speciality group.
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Unlocked s3 and wanting to switch to prepaid

hey everyone i'm new to this so please bare with me..I have a T-Mobile Samsung galaxy s3 and I got the unlock code off eBay for a pretty cheap price, so far it looks liked it accepted it . I wanted to switch over to net10 or simple mobile. I heard about if not paying my T-Mobile bill they will block the imei number. If so will I be able to use it at all on those carriers I stated, or will I just have to use it on H2o or Att.
Also as far as the apn settings is there an application that will help? Thanks in advance
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Just means u cant use the phone back on t-mobile other company's dont care if the phone has bad record I had and s3 before I got the one I have now it could not work with tmobile because the person that sold it to me did not pay bill but u can use it on att simple mobile net 10 any (gsm) cell phone carriers
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OK thanks a lot. Also I did hear that simple mobile is run by T-Mobile so will it work on simple mobile if Imei is blocked?
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Yeah it will work. Simple mobile doesn't even ask for imei. Only if you want to put it there is the option but its not required
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Ok thanks alot for the info
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To be fair, they're going to know your IMEI even if you don't disclose it to them during the sign-up process. Just by using the phone it will send that information out when you communicate with their cell towers - so I'd imagine if T-Mobile shares its block list with Simple Mobile, it won't matter if you disclosed the IMEI at signup - they're going to know it anyway.
That, and the Big Four is actively working with the FCC on a cross-carrier database - so unless that falls through at the 11th hour, that's on the horizon in the next year or so.
Just sayin'.

What do you mean by the big four carriers is working with the fcc in the next year? Please explain, thanks
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it should work on simple mobile
I've used phones blacklisted by T-Mobile on Simple
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I wonder if it would work with Wal-Marts mobile service since it is just rebranded T-mobile...hmm

Android_Monsters said:
it should work on simple mobile
I've used phones blacklisted by T-Mobile on Simple
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Yeah your right. I just called simple mobile and they said even if it is blacklisted for not paying my bill, it will still work because its an unlocked gsm phone so it wouldnt matter, just pop in my sim card and I would just honestly get edge network which is slower than 3g speed.
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It will work if they don't use T-Mobile IMEI blacklist and continue not to do so.
It seems like that's the case, at least for now.
Just saying, it doesn't have anything to do with if the phone being carrier unlocked or not - IMEI is tied to the phone's hardware, not the SIM card.
I went through something similar with T-Mobile, and most of the reps don't know what the block list is let alone how it works.
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Pennycake said:
It will work if they don't use T-Mobile IMEI blacklist and continue not to do so.
It seems like that's the case, at least for now.
Just saying, it doesn't have anything to do with if the phone being carrier unlocked or not - IMEI is tied to the phone's hardware, not the SIM card.
I went through something similar with T-Mobile, and most of the reps don't know what the block list is let alone how it works.
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Yeah i see that def now.
But wow thats crazy they have this whole imei number blocked thing going around and the workers dont even know whats going on smh. Im so confused as to how this works. Im reading like so many diff things about it.
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killj0y said:
I wonder if it would work with Wal-Marts mobile service since it is just rebranded T-mobile...hmm
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Walmart Family Mobile use T-Mobile IMEI blacklist. I had customers that tried to used blacklisted phones on Walmart Family Mobile and they did not work.

Lg nitro hd with straight talk sim signal wont pick up

I have a lg nitro HD and just bought a att straight talk sim phone boots up doesn't ask for unlock code but it won't register no bars of service any help or tips?
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snoopy1e11 said:
I have a lg nitro HD and just bought a att straight talk sim phone boots up doesn't ask for unlock code but it won't register no bars of service any help or tips?
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did you go under mobile networks and search for available networks? and you have att coverage in your area of course...

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did you go under mobile networks and search for available networks? and you have att coverage in your area of course...
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Yea even checked the straight talk apn.
I didn't activate it yet tho but I didn't think u would have to just for it to show a signal
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sometimes, its a provision issue on ST side, you can call ST and ask them to check on their side.

arda99 said:
sometimes, its a provision issue on ST side, you can call ST and ask them to check on their side.
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I'm bout to try that
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I got it to work had to activate it first thanx for all da help
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I got it to work had to activate it first thanx for all da help
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yes you do. I have an att sim card that I put in to check signal strength around me (I'm on t-mobile) and couldn't get it to show a signal at all. glad you figured it out.

Yea soon as I activated it popped right in
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What kind of data speeds are you getting on straight talk? I'm debating switching
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Between 3-5mb down and like 1 up but I live in the boondocks so ur speeds maybe a little better
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I'm on straight talk as well. Anywhere from 3 to 6 down, up to about 2 up.
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So I bought a straight talk phone, activated it, added the monthly 45 dollar plan. SIM works fine with the straight talk phone. I put it in my nitro and get no service at all. Stumped.
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Hutch89 said:
So I bought a straight talk phone, activated it, added the monthly 45 dollar plan. SIM works fine with the straight talk phone. I put it in my nitro and get no service at all. Stumped.
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Do you use the same APN settings or are straight talk's different? That would have an effect if they're supposed to be different.

I didn't compare the two, but I'm pretty sure they're different: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1856574

So apparently the SIM that came with the straight talk cheap phone cannot be used on any other phone they're tied together and now im basically f***** because the sims are worthless too me the cheapy phone even more so and I can't get a refund on the two 45 dollar airtime cards I bought to start service. Not to mention this information took five hours of calling and being disconnected, redirected, and hung up on with straight talk reps. I'm so pissed right now I hope that company goes up in flames. F*****s
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Hutch89 said:
So apparently the SIM that came with the straight talk cheap phone cannot be used on any other phone they're tied together and now im basically f***** because the sims are worthless too me the cheapy phone even more so and I can't get a refund on the two 45 dollar airtime cards I bought to start service. Not to mention this information took five hours of calling and being disconnected, redirected, and hung up on with straight talk reps. I'm so pissed right now I hope that company goes up in flames. F*****s
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Just buy the "use your own phone" sim and do a sim change that should work its only $15. Walmart carries it so you should be able to get it fixed tonight.
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Hutch89 said:
So apparently the SIM that came with the straight talk cheap phone cannot be used on any other phone they're tied together and now im basically f***** because the sims are worthless too me the cheapy phone even more so and I can't get a refund on the two 45 dollar airtime cards I bought to start service. Not to mention this information took five hours of calling and being disconnected, redirected, and hung up on with straight talk reps. I'm so pissed right now I hope that company goes up in flames. F*****s
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Go to the straight talk facebook page and post your problem. They'll ask you to open a ticket and they will fix it, or tell you what's wrong.

Live in U.S. going to Ireland

Traveling to Ireland with the wife for three weeks, wondering if there is a easy and cheap way to get my phone to work in Ireland? Buy a burner while I'm there, or unlock my phone and buy mins? What converter for charging can i use without putting a hurt on my phone or battery, Not sure that's why I'm asking, any suggestions are welcomed, thanks.
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blaker13 said:
Traveling to Ireland with the wife for three weeks, wondering if there is a easy and cheap way to get my phone to work in Ireland? Buy a burner while I'm there, or unlock my phone and buy mins? What converter for charging can i use without putting a hurt on my phone or battery, Not sure that's why I'm asking, any suggestions are welcomed, thanks.
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I'd say the easiest way would be to unlock and buy some mins over there (along with one of their carrier's sim card, usually about 10$). That way you don't get charged for roaming.
You might have to flash another modem once you're there but you'll see by yourself if yours is fine or not.

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I'd say the easiest way would be to unlock and buy some mins over there (along with one of their carrier's sim card, usually about 10$). That way you don't get charged for roaming.
You might have to flash another modem once you're there but you'll see by yourself if yours is fine or not.
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Do I just goto a phone store there
And ask to buy a sim?
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Do I just goto a phone store there
And ask to buy a sim?
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Pretty much. I duno the carriers over there but usually that's what you'd do. Go in, explain you're staying for a couple weeks and wanna use their service. They should sell you a pay as you go sim with some mins.
You can always check with the carriers before hand.

I was in Uk couple a month ago I unlocked my sim card and use 3mobile service it give me unlimeted Data 300 min and 500 text for 15 pound no setup fee just put your sim in the phone and you are ok ( whatsapp & viber and vonage worked perfectly )

Did you use the unlock method in the dialpad? Can I but a sim card online so I'm setup when I arrive? And when I get back I just put my att Sim back in and wallah?
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Do I just goto a phone store there
And ask to buy a sim?
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am pretty sure there is a software that unlock your phone for free or send it to a store and they will unlock it with easy costs before going to ireland
its easier to unlock or get service for your phone here in US compared to Ireland..................

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am pretty sure there is a software that unlock your phone for free or send it to a store and they will unlock it with easy costs before going to ireland
its easier to unlock or get service for your phone here in US compared to Ireland..................
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Yea att won't unlock unless my 2yr contact is up, even though I've been a customer for ten yrs(kinda bs in my opinion) I can just unlock through dialpad... was going to get a Sim online, but I guess it's Vodafone, looks like you have to goto a store there.
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Soft unlock works. It's much cheaper to buy a local sim.
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Yea att won't unlock unless my 2yr contact is up, even though I've been a customer for ten yrs(kinda bs in my opinion) I can just unlock through dialpad... was going to get a Sim online, but I guess it's Vodafone, looks like you have to goto a store there.
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I bought a "3" Ireland sum from someone on eBay for my daughter.. check around.. they are one if the few carriers you can get like 1gb of internet for like 49 bucks.
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