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What if I don't want to use Triangle Away?

Just for my own curiosity, I read somewhere that to get rid of the yellow triangle from flashing with odin, you can use one of the One-Click odin's back to stock to clear the triangle because it will replace the bootloader.
Does anyone know if this applies to just the GB roms and is it just EK30 or will EL29 work as well?

tdunham said:
Just for my own curiosity, I read somewhere that to get rid of the yellow triangle from flashing with odin, you can use one of the One-Click odin's back to stock to clear the triangle because it will replace the bootloader.
Does anyone know if this applies to just the GB roms and is it just EK30 or will EL29 work as well?
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Use a USB jig ?
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I believe so. But it won't reset your counter. Just the triangle. Triangle away resets both.
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Every time I've used the one-clicks its gotten rid of the triangle. GB and ICS

daniel4653 said:
Use a USB jig ?
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I have one Daniel. But I wanted to know if there was another way.

rwright64 said:
Every time I've used the one-clicks its gotten rid of the triangle. GB and ICS
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Thanks, that's what I thought. It doesn't make sense for a GB user to have to flash over to ICS just to use the triangle away and then back. Plus, some folks shouldn't be anywhere near ICS to begin with.

peanut1596 said:
I believe so. But it won't reset your counter. Just the triangle. Triangle away resets both.
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Peanut! How you doing man. The jig resets the counters too. That's really why I wanted one.

tdunham said:
Peanut! How you doing man. The jig resets the counters too. That's really why I wanted one.
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The jig is great. I ended up with a homemade one after purchasing an E4GT from an XDA poster and I use it all the time. However I do keep a copy of triangle away in my gmail box so I can access it anytime I'm away from home and need to get rid of the triangle and reset the counter.

tdunham said:
Peanut! How you doing man. The jig resets the counters too. That's really why I wanted one.
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Oh yeah I know the jig does but I was just talking about the one-click. I should get a usb jig myself. Lol
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Got my jig off amazon for about 3 bucks when I ordered my case. Well worth it. Just plug it in and BOOM you are in DL mode. Easier than messing with the buttons IMHO.

Anyone happen to know how I can kick off the triangle on purpose? :silly:
For testing purposes ya know...

is triangle away safe, I didn't use it because I didn't want to brick my phone

Blaze2219 said:
is triangle away safe, I didn't use it because I didn't want to brick my phone
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With ICS its as safe as anything else you have done with your phone, granted you are a flasher. I have used it and its great and only takes seconds. I would say get a jig but if you dont and use ICS this is a great tool as well.
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tdunham said:
Anyone happen to know how I can kick off the triangle on purpose? :silly:
For testing purposes ya know...
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you mean have the triangle show up? odin a kernel if thats what you are referring too.

Why no odin one clicks?

Back when I was on the E4GT, Odin One clicks were the most useful tools I had used. Rooting without tripping the flash counter, and easily going back to stock. My question is, why are there none for the S3? Is it that there's too many changes in the S3 that they wouldn't work, or has anyone tried? I want to root my S3 but I don't want to trip the flash counter since Triangle Away isn't fully working on our device as far as I know. And I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but I'm hardly ever on a computer and the search in the XDA app sucks.
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Triangle away has works flawlessly for me.
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Speedin07si said:
Triangle away has works flawlessly for me.
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You should double check. If you have installed any of the leaks something has been changed and while you can reset the counter with Triangle Away, it will not stay at zero when you reboot. I have seen this discussed in a few other threads and have noticed it with my own phone.

Neil Fruit said:
You should double check. If you have installed any of the leaks something has been changed and while you can reset the counter with Triangle Away, it will not stay at zero when you reboot. I have seen this discussed in a few other threads and have noticed it with my own phone.
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That may be it, I don't do any of the leaks, I need a 100% working phone all day everyday.
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Counter?

Well, I recently got the S3 is rooted running Xquizit v35. But my main question is what exactly is the counter?
is there any bad things if it gets too high? does it need to be reset?
Oh, and based on your opinion and experience what is the best ROM for us T-Mo S3 users out there?

The counter is for samsung to tell if you have ever modified your device. They do this for warranty purpose, if it is tripped then they will charge you. However Chainfire has an app out called Triangle away that will put your counter to zero.

There is no such as the BEST ROM...I recommend cm10 ...its a great noob ROM...its stable enough for daily use.
http://get.cm/?device=d2tmo
You can download it there...make sure you get the latest gapps because the ROM doesn't have them reinstalled
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handman29 said:
There is no such as the BEST ROM...I recommend cm10 ...its a great noob ROM...its stable enough for daily use.
http://get.cm/?device=d2tmo
You can download it there...make sure you get the latest gapps because the ROM doesn't have them reinstalled
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And I would disagree it a very un-noob rom, it has words they'd have to search "nightly" "milestone" "gapps" better option, stock ROM debloated, or stock ROM with root permission and learn what you can do from there.
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mt3g said:
And I would disagree it a very un-noob rom, it has words they'd have to search "nightly" "milestone" "gapps" better option, stock ROM debloated, or stock ROM with root permission and learn what you can do from there.
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+1
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If you've flashed you have to send Samsung $15 if you want to keep your warranty.

Well, I'm not a noob at android I know most about it. I'm just new to Samsung. I haven't tried CM10 since I'm mainly about battery life w/ a good performance. How's the battery life on CM10? And I guess I'll try to reset my counter with that app. Thanks guys!
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FWIW my counter is at 15 right now. (See how worried I am about it)
Just download Triangle Away and run it when you want. After each flash, once a week, never. It all depends on how careless/ful you are when flashing and if you bork something so bad, it has to be returned for warranty.
Also best ROM threads are frowned upon bc they always turn into pissing contests.

How do I check my counter?
type R-blood

Actionx1 said:
How do I check my counter?
type R-blood
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Either run triangle away or boot into download mode. Both will show your flash counter.
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Ok, so can't ask "best ROM", but, is everything working and stable in any particular version of CM10?
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I see people talking about the warranty aspect of it, but I found out the hard way that having the counter not zeroed out affects the way some T-Mo and Samsung services work. Examples:
1) I was excited the AllShare Cast dongle for $50, got it all hooked up, then had this problem where every time the phone tried to hook up to the hub, it would just disconnect after a few seconds. After doing some reading, it was discovered that if your flash count reset back to zero (and binary showing as "official"), then the hub worked just fine. So I did the Triangle Away business, and bam. Worked like a charm.
2) There was a promotion a little while back where T-Mobile customers could view or download The Avengers movie from one of the bloatware apps I removed long ago. I don't remember all the details, but the download only worked once the counter and then the TV app data were both reset.
So there are real world reasons to go ahead and reset the flash counter back to zero. It just took me a little bit of time to figure this out myself. And now I'm passing the savings on to youuuuu!

Thanks for that! That's a heads up
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[Q] URGENT: Revert to stock Kernel/ROM and Remove Yellow Triangle

Firstly thank you in advance to anyone who takes time out to help me fix this problem.
I have searched high and low for an answer both here and abroad but I have not been able to find anything that addresses non-stock recovery and yellow triangles.
I have an Epic 4G Touch running CM9 with CWM. A couple of days ago I noticed that my charge port was giving me issues and I had to place the connector in just the right way to get it to charge. Now it has become a large issue where it will barely charge.
TL;DR: I have insurance and need to figure out how to get back to stock everything, remove the yellow triangle (without USB jig) and make it look like the phone has had nothing but stock.
Thank you again!

That's cheating.
Pp.
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Search "Triangle Away" and all stick ROMs are in the Repository... Click on stickies in the Dev section

Why not try a PC Odin One-clic stock restore (FL24) - carefully holding in the connector during the whole flash?

bilgerryan said:
Search "Triangle Away" and all stick ROMs are in the Repository... Click on stickies in the Dev section
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This
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Use your current recovery to flash the FL24 modem and then use Mobile Odin to flash FL24.

Or he could just flash a full stock one click using the SD card and avoid all that stuff...

graydiggy said:
Or he could just flash a full stock one click using the SD card and avoid all that stuff...
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Depending on which modem they are running...
I'd suggest;
Use triangle away, flash an older official stock tar with mobile odin, (wont matter with current modem since they can be mixed since they're running cm9) then let the ota take it to official latest.
But I'm betting op has done something by now.

MoHoGalore said:
Depending on which modem they are running...
I'd suggest;
Use triangle away, flash an older official stock tar with mobile odin, (wont matter with current modem since they can be mixed since they're running cm9) then let the ota take it to official latest.
But I'm betting op has done something by now.
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Implying that he will have the battery life to do all that.
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My apologies for not replying sooner.
To anyone still watching:
I ended up finding a 3rd party Sprint dealer willing to get me a replacement and bring EVERYTHING back to default before sending out the phone for repair.
Thank you everyone for your suggestions.
PS Does Triangle away really work? All of those "this may brick your device" warnings make me nervous...

jhw549 said:
My apologies for not replying sooner.
To anyone still watching:
I ended up finding a 3rd party Sprint dealer willing to get me a replacement and bring EVERYTHING back to default before sending out the phone for repair.
Thank you everyone for your suggestions.
PS Does Triangle away really work? All of those "this may brick your device" warnings make me nervous...
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Yes it works.
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jhw549 said:
My apologies for not replying sooner.
To anyone still watching:
I ended up finding a 3rd party Sprint dealer willing to get me a replacement and bring EVERYTHING back to default before sending out the phone for repair.
Thank you everyone for your suggestions.
PS Does Triangle away really work? All of those "this may brick your device" warnings make me nervous...
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It does really work. But there are chances for it to brick if you lose power to the phone. Battery dies, if falls and battery falls out, power button issues. Other than that, it won't brick you. They also put that warning on there so someone can't blame the dev if they did something to f**k their phone up. Its a universal disclaimer thar tells people to be careful.
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There will always be warnings
Stock roms/kernels should remove that triangle as well unless i am mistaken.

Razzzzer said:
There will always be warnings
Stock roms/kernels should remove that triangle as well unless i am mistaken.
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Or you can just use triangle away like what was posted.
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Razzzzer said:
There will always be warnings
Stock roms/kernels should remove that triangle as well unless i am mistaken.
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You're mistaken, to a point.
Flashing a stock will remove the triangle but not reset the binary counter.
Triangle away will do both.

[Q] Returned from factory with KNOX - what do I do?

Hi everyone, I just had my phone repaired at the factory, sent in with a stock T-Mobile 4.2.2 ROM, but came back with KNOX.
I HAVE NOT booted the phone up -- I put it into download mode only to see the KNOX flags. But it's probably been booted before for testing at the factory.
Is there anything I should/can do before I turn it on normally (to help with ridding myself of KNOX problems)?
Eventually, I want to root it and/or install a custom ROM.

j111 said:
Hi everyone, I just had my phone repaired at the factory, sent in with a stock T-Mobile 4.2.2 ROM, but came back with KNOX.
I HAVE NOT booted the phone up -- I put it into download mode only to see the KNOX flags. But it's probably been booted before for testing at the factory.
Is there anything I should/can do before I turn it on normally (to help with ridding myself of KNOX problems)?
Eventually, I want to root it and/or install a custom ROM.
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You can go ahead and boot up. There's nothing you can do right now at this moment that will save you versus later in time.
If they wiped your data and you're starting fresh, you may want to look into it soon as so you don't gain personal data which then you'll need to back up (extra step).
As for rooting/custom roms I cannot speak for the S4 but I can look into it if requested. But you could (I mean hopefully..) search the forums just as well as I can, so..
Hope this helps,
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Yup, I will search away. Just good to confirm that turning it on won't do me a disservice. Thanks!!

Chainfire like usual. Custom recovery. Will trip Knox. But only problem is a warning message on boot up.
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Android_Monsters said:
Chainfire like usual. Custom recovery. Will trip Knox. But only problem is a warning message on boot up.
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Warnings don't bother me, but I would like to have the ability to reset the KNOX flag in case the phone needs to go back for warranty repair.
Is KNOX resettable to zero in that way or is it irreversible?

j111 said:
Warnings don't bother me, but I would like to have the ability to reset the KNOX flag in case the phone needs to go back for warranty repair.
Is KNOX resettable to zero in that way or is it irreversible?
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Sadly once KNOX is tripped there is no going back
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j111 said:
Warnings don't bother me, but I would like to have the ability to reset the KNOX flag in case the phone needs to go back for warranty repair.
Is KNOX resettable to zero in that way or is it irreversible?
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It is programmatically permanent. Meaning that there isn't a method of resetting it via software but only by hardware (board replacement etc). There will soon be a Riffbox solution where you can reflash the bootloader by a serial port, you will undoubtedly have to solder the tiny wires to the microscopic solder points on the board. (Yikes) We hope to god that someone finds a knox exploit soon.
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Thanks everyone for the replies!
WOW! Hard to believe. So no one with a newer S4 or S5 can root without voiding warranty? No going back? That's terrible.
I wonder if this means less people are rooting these days. Darn, I want to get rid of bloat, but warranty is important to me.
I assumed with the advent of the S5, someone had figured it out. Here's to hoping someone does.

j111 said:
Thanks everyone for the replies!
WOW! Hard to believe. So no one with a newer S4 or S5 can root without voiding warranty? No going back? That's terrible.
I wonder if this means less people are rooting these days. Darn, I want to get rid of bloat, but warranty is important to me.
I assumed with the advent of the S5, someone had figured it out. Here's to hoping someone does.
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People have been reporting that they have sent there phone in on a warranty with KNOX tripped to 0x1 and getting it back with KNOX set back to 0x0. I guess it's a hit or miss.
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Kriptik210 said:
People have been reporting that they have sent there phone in on a warranty with KNOX tripped to 0x1 and getting it back with KNOX set back to 0x0. I guess it's a hit or miss.
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I have yet to hear a report about warrenty being denied due to knox. So it's not a real worry. At least not yet.

If you can make and receive calls your good. It's not that bad,
Pp.
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PanchoPlanet said:
If you can make and receive calls your good. It's not that bad,
Pp.
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Yeah Knox is like Herpes. You can't get rid of it, but its only annoying once in a while. Usually it doesn't affect you.
Sent from your phone. You should be more careful where you leave that thing.

How fast does KNOX increase?
Does Knox increase EVERY time you load a new ROM, or a new recovery, or re-root?
That is, once it goes to 0x1 does it stay there, or if you are playing around a lot, does it quickly go 0x2, 0x3, and up and up and up?

j111 said:
Does Knox increase EVERY time you load a new ROM, or a new recovery, or re-root?
That is, once it goes to 0x1 does it stay there, or if you are playing around a lot, does it quickly go 0x2, 0x3, and up and up and up?
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It stays at 0x1. Nothing happens to your phone in general. It still operates the same.
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I think it goes up, have read in the forum about counter going up to 3+.
Pp.
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PanchoPlanet said:
I think it goes up, have read in the forum about counter going up to 3+.
Pp.
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Thats a first for me. How and why would it go up? Just curious.
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Don't know, I'm on the MDL bootloader, but have heard of the count going uo.
Pp.
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No. The knox counter does not go up. Its either tripped or it isnt.
The flash counter goes up everytime you flash something in odin, but not when you flash stuff in recovery.
Flash counter and knox are 2 different things
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Skipjacks said:
No. The knox counter does not go up. Its either tripped or it isnt.
The flash counter goes up everytime you flash something in odin, but not when you flash stuff in recovery.
Flash counter and knox are 2 different things
Sent from your phone. You should be more careful where you leave that thing.
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Well, if you've been flashing ROMs for a while without bricking or messing up your phone, then tripping KNOX shouldn't be an issue. All KNOX is is an alarm for Samsung to know if you've done anything to void your device. So if you ever do brick your phone or anything, even if it's hardware issue on their end, they can then say you're the blame just because they know you tampered with it. Even if it's their own fault. But if you know what you're doing, then it really doesn't matter. And they still won't really know until you try and turn it in one day and they look to see if the trip counter is 0x1 or 2 or 3. If it's 0x0 then it's good to them.
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Pp.
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That is just not correct. Knox is absolutely not just a way for Samsung to see if you have messed with the phone.
Its a security feature to allow the device to qualify as a secure system for business use. Some enterprise software won't work if the knox flag is tripped. That allows it to be more secure as you can't simply hide root so a root checking app will still function.
This prevents data theft for businesses. That is what knox is there for. It was not put in as a warranty check.
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