[Q] Can't you just trick it? - HTC Wildfire S

I've noticed that pretty much every ICS ROM for the Wildfire S has at least a few major problems with it and that's really the only thing stopping me from flashing that over the WildChild ROM which is brilliant, but not ICS. So I've been wondering, isn't there a way just to trick the phone into thinking it has ICS rather than flashing a buggy ROM?
I know you might think that's a stupid idea but I really only want it for the apps I can get that aren't available for GingerBread. (I already like the interface of WildChild.)
So yeah, any way to make it think it's on ICS without a custom ROM is the general question here? Thanks in advance, even if you can't help.

There is no one you will be tricking but yourself and your friends. Try TrianaDroid by Oliverg96
It is cm7 themed to look like ICS with some apps from it as well
Sent from my bowl of jelly!

lol that was weird. I agree with vbhtt that Triana Droid is your best shot for having a themed GB but with ICS looks.
I use CM9 for everyday use. I don't get much offended by the bugs but yeah, I'd wish the bugs to be sorted out too. But still It's pretty bugfree for me as No one records video from a phone which cannot record HQ video, For watching video we can always use MX player with SW decoder.
I have some 100+ apps on my CM9 and not a single lag.
Give it a try.

ICS isnt buggy, just that camera isnt fully working and that u cant reverse USB tethering. We are lucky to have so many devs and roms.

No, no. It's the other way around. I want the GB looks, with ICS. I don't wanna have to change to a buggy ROM is all.

99Aaron99 said:
No, no. It's the other way around. I want the GB looks, with ICS. I don't wanna have to change to a buggy ROM is all.
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You want GB look? oh god why?
GB has fail graphics except sense ROMS. I hate look of cm7.
Can I know which software are you trying which can run just on ICS? Coz except launchers I haven't had any problem running on GB.

sukhjit321 said:
You want GB look? oh god why?
GB has fail graphics except sense ROMS. I hate look of cm7.
Can I know which software are you trying which can run just on ICS? Coz except launchers I haven't had any problem running on GB.
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Well like I said in the OP, I like the looks of WildChild ROM. But there's a few apps (such as Onavo Extend (extends your data plan)) that you can only download on ICS. So I want the Play Store to think my phone is on ICS without losing the good looking ROM I have now.

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99Aaron99 said:
Well like I said in the OP, I like the looks of WildChild ROM. But there's a few apps (such as Onavo Extend (extends your data plan)) that you can only download on ICS. So I want the Play Store to think my phone is on ICS without losing the good looking ROM I have now.
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It'll work on ICS for a reason. Even if you find some weird cunning way to trick it, the app's gonna crash.
So I hope you got your answer.

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Cyanogen Mod roms??

Im fairly new to the whole rooting/custom rom game (have a rooted DHD running Leedroid HD V2.2.2) and keep seeing Cyanogen Mod popping up everywhere!! Whats this ROM all about? I have read its a nightly so is constantly being updated, but is there any stable versions? Do normal android apps run on this platform? Is there any advantage to moving to one of these roms as opposed to a Froyo or GB rom? I only use my DHD for fairly basic stuff (gaming, navigation, music, email etc.) but do like it to be fast and look a bit different to every other DHD!!!
Thanks in advance! Dan
dansharpy said:
Im fairly new to the whole rooting/custom rom game (have a rooted DHD running Leedroid HD V2.2.2) and keep seeing Cyanogen Mod popping up everywhere!! Whats this ROM all about? I have read its a nightly so is constantly being updated, but is there any stable versions? Do normal android apps run on this platform? Is there any advantage to moving to one of these roms as opposed to a Froyo or GB rom? I only use my DHD for fairly basic stuff (gaming, navigation, music, email etc.) but do like it to be fast and look a bit different to every other DHD!!!
Thanks in advance! Dan
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Oops Many but basic questions....CyanogenMod is currently CM7 series...its based on GB only....but no-Sense....there are RC2 available which is stable enough...no reboots or crashs.....
Its an android rom only so all the application runs on this..
The only thing which you are going to miss is video player as the video player on the sense rom is nice....but alternative are available.
you will get many other things....speed is one of them...
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G1sanju said:
Oops Many but basic questions....CyanogenMod is currently CM7 series...its based on GB only....but no-Sense....there are RC2 available which is stable enough...no reboots or crashs.....
Its an android rom only so all the application runs on this..
The only thing which you are going to miss is video player as the video player on the sense rom is nice....but alternative are available.
you will get many other things....speed is one of them...
Hope I have answered some...
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Awesome, thanks for the reply. I use Zimly for movie watching anyway so not bothered about loosing the sense player! Is there any advantage to using the cyanogen rom over say the leedroid/revolution GB roms??
Thanks again!!
dansharpy said:
Awesome, thanks for the reply. I use Zimly for movie watching anyway so not bothered about loosing the sense player! Is there any advantage to using the cyanogen rom over say the leedroid/revolution GB roms??
Thanks again!!
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It will remove sense...you can just see that sense roms are 200MB and CM7 is just 80MB...lot of bloat will be off and speed will be there...but if you love sense then its a different case...
CM has a good support so lot of features are getting added regularly...try it and see if it is of your liking.....try CM7-RC2
G1sanju said:
It will remove sense...you can just see that sense roms are 200MB and CM7 is just 80MB...lot of bloat will be off and speed will be there...but if you love sense then its a different case...
CM has a good support so lot of features are getting added regularly...try it and see if it is of your liking.....try CM7-RC2
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Ok so its basically the core Gingerbread with out sense. That sounds pretty good, ive never actually used Android without sense (DHD is my first android device!) so think i might give it a go!! Thanks again for the advice and thanks for the link!!

ROM with Vanilla ICS

Hi guys,
Is there any chance a ROM with vanilla ICS will be made. I dont think i like this Sense.. IMO, ics is better consumed in its pure glory.
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calypso666 said:
Hi guys,
Is there any chance a ROM with vanilla ICS will be made. I dont think i like this Sense.. IMO, ics is better consumed in its pure glory.
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I would personally like this as well, and I doubt we're alone... (And then provide apks for the stock HTC apps separately, so we can choose the ones we actually want to keep.)
knoxploration said:
(And then provide apks for the stock HTC apps separately, so we can choose the ones we actually want to keep.)
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It never works like this. You either have sense or you don't.
I'd say there is a very good chance we will get vanilla ICS roms - other Tegra3 devices are already getting them. Only difficulty will be the camera I imagine.
M.
Hopefully the device is popular enough for a CM9 official release.
Hopefully soon..that way I can update all my black&cyan themed gapp's
mattman83 said:
It never works like this. You either have sense or you don't.
I'd say there is a very good chance we will get vanilla ICS roms - other Tegra3 devices are already getting them. Only difficulty will be the camera I imagine.
M.
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There is "ics" roms based on Sense, that is all sense apps are replaced with ICS apps except where they are better (camera and album for instance) but everything else is ICS. And it works great, i have tested some of these on my evo (wich doesnt even have official ICS yet) so it is possible.
but those are sense based and the advantage is that all hardware works as well as stock but if you want pure AOSP you have to wait a month or two, or more, before a proper aosp kernel and compile from aosp is made.
Has htc released kernel-source for one x yet?
mattman83 said:
It never works like this. You either have sense or you don't.
I'd say there is a very good chance we will get vanilla ICS roms - other Tegra3 devices are already getting them. Only difficulty will be the camera I imagine.
M.
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I didn't say Sense, I said apps. I don't know exactly what apps are on the phone yet, and whether there's anything worth having; on my Asus tablet there's a bunch of crap, but there are also a few things (eg. Splashtop) that are worthwhile.
I hope so. S
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knoxploration said:
I didn't say Sense, I said apps. I don't know exactly what apps are on the phone yet, and whether there's anything worth having; on my Asus tablet there's a bunch of crap, but there are also a few things (eg. Splashtop) that are worthwhile.
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Yep, and the sense apps are all tied into the sense framework, which means you need a sense rom.
I don't think there is any question of whether or not this phone will be popular enough for CM9 to take it on board - this and the SGSIII are going to be the 2 biggest phones this year. It's just a matter of time before it happens.
M.
mattman83 said:
Yep, and the sense apps are all tied into the sense framework, which means you need a sense rom.
I don't think there is any question of whether or not this phone will be popular enough for CM9 to take it on board - this and the SGSIII are going to be the 2 biggest phones this year. It's just a matter of time before it happens.
M.
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In ICS you can dissable apps (essentialy uninstalling apps but they come back after a whipe) like for instance 3'rd party music-apps like soundhound etc.
But sense is there. rosie, clock app etc.
But most apps can also be added back from ICS from what i have seen, like clock, alarm, calendar, e-mail etc and thuss making a sense device "aosp" like without acctualy removing things you need from a sense based rom like binary drivers.
mattman83 said:
It never works like this. You either have sense or you don't.
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What? oO
Ain't Sense just being another laucher app? Everything else basically being reskins and shameless rips of "unsensed" apps (like Twitter for sense and all that ****) ?
You can install another launcher, and use Titanium to kill/freeze most Sense apps. I use a ICS launcher from a N1 ICS rom. And it works fine. Wish I could replace the status bar / notification drawer as well tho.
Calibrae said:
What? oO
Ain't Sense just being another laucher app? Everything else basically being reskins and shameless rips of "unsensed" apps (like Twitter for sense and all that ****) ?
You can install another launcher, and use Titanium to kill/freeze most Sense apps. I use a ICS launcher from a N1 ICS rom. And it works fine. Wish I could replace the status bar / notification drawer as well tho.
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There is something called a framework. You can't use sense Widgets on another launcher because of it.
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Again, I wasn't referring to Sense apps. This is my first HTC phone; most other manufacturers usually bundle stock apps, I know HTC is bundling some free versions like TuneIn, but don't know if they also bundle any paid ones worth having. Those are what I'm referring to, NOT Sense.
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I'd also love a stock ics rom. Only thing that needs to be ported would be the camera app. Omg the app is just the best cam app. The stock camera app is useless in comparison.
Everything else can be scrapped
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KamikaZeeFu said:
I'd also love a stock ics rom. Only thing that needs to be ported would be the camera app. Omg the app is just the best cam app. The stock camera app is useless in comparison.
Everything else can be scrapped
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Not to belabor the point already raised in this thread, but the Sense Camera cannot be ported over to any other ROM. As previously mentioned, the Sense Camera is one of the apps that are inextricably tied to the overall Sense framework. You need to have a Sense-based ROM for the Sense Camera to work.
Just to save any potential heartache for people hoping to port it over to an AOSP-based ROM. Too many tears have been shed already-- many of them mine :]
I hope this happens...The day this ROM comes out for HTC ONE X...is the day i buy it!
OR SGS 3..whichever is quicker!
The ARHD Rom has a lite version stripped from sense.. try that in the development section
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Just to clarify here, there's "senseless" and then there's "AOSP".
Senseless is based on HTC stock rom but with many HTC apps removed and replaced with ICS stock. Many of the apps are better however you still have the same underlying framework, it's still a htc sense rom at the core.
AOSP is built from google source, there's not one line of sense in it. It's leaner, meaner, faster, better on battery, but it'll take alot longer to get it running properly. It WILL NOT support most HTC apps, particuarly the camera as these all tie into the HTC core (which doesn't exist in AOSP).
You cannot remove sense from a HTC rom, you can just remove the apps. It's like chopping the top off a weed but leaving the roots. You can't see it, but you still have weeds
M.
I have no idea what you are all talking about, but I know I need Vanilla!! Really hate SENSE...
If I had AOSP would it mean that my camera would not work at all? Or would it just mean that some of the SENSE functions would not be possible to use?
PoopTossnApe said:
I have no idea what you are all talking about, but I know I need Vanilla!! Really hate SENSE...
If I had AOSP would it mean that my camera would not work at all? Or would it just mean that some of the SENSE functions would not be possible to use?
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If you had a proper AOSP rom (like CM9, AOKP etc) then the camera would work to take photos and videos, but none of the dual record/high speed type stuff is likely to work. There may even be problems in early builds just trying to get it working, a dedicated imaging chip is quite unusual and depends on what architectural changes there are.
And, if you don't know what I'm talking about with senseless vs aosp, how can you even know that you *need* vanilla ics??
M.

[Q] looking for a stable ROM

Hello I am looking for a stable ROM with ICS or any android 4.0+ version because I need a T9 dialer in hebrew which is built in any android 4.0+ version.
And why do I need it stable?
well... the phone is going to be belong to my sister and I am going to have the HOX+(maybe not quite sure yet) and she is not going to play with ROMs flash them during the night and look for the best for her and update the ROM every week so thats why I need it stable...
and guys dont worry our HTC is kind of old but still good but my sister is walking around with Samsung 514!!!
I really want her to be impressed with android (although it does not matter what UI he have as long its not AOKP because i didnt love it )
thank you for you help time, thinking and for reading this despite my bad english(i can wait 2 weeks tops)'
ho one last thing i know there are 3rd party apps at the store the provide the T9 dialer but its still 3rd party abit laggy and slow
Stable 4.0+ ha you must be new here.
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All ICS+ ROMs are in a alpha / beta stage for the Desire... they can never be as stable as you would like them to be because of inherent device driver and resource limitations in our phone. Having said that, I use Sandvold http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1355660. It is a decent daily driver for me, but has a major bug once in a while. You would need to debug for your sister on such occasions.
murtuzasb said:
All ICS+ ROMs are in a alpha / beta stage for the Desire... they can never be as stable as you would like them to be because of inherent device driver and resource limitations in our phone. Having said that, I use Sandvold http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1355660. It is decently fast and stable, but has a major bug once in a while. You would need to debug for your sister on such occasions.
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You are contradicting yourself. Stop recommending something as stable when it's clearly not.
People will never learn there are no but's when something is stable.
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Hmmm.. you may be right...
Then again, its software... I have never used software that has never crashed or not had bugs.
PS: I edited my earlier post to remove the word stable
what about the miui he is in beta level but he is there because it gets updated almost every week can any one recommend on that?
and do you guys think that even in 2 weeks no stable roms will appear?
xzfzx said:
what about the miui he is in beta level but he is there because it gets updated almost every week can any one recommend on that?
and do you guys think that even in 2 weeks no stable roms will appear?
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OK, there's the thing. If you are looking for a stable ics+ or ics+ with sense, your out of luck. The htc desire will not be able to support it with help from htc's own engineers/developers. However, if you are willing to use a fairly buggy rom, just pick any and see how you like it. In short, stop asking and just do it. Enjoy flashing.
http://get.cm/?device=bravo
http://forum.oxygen.im/viewtopic.php?id=1476
k3lcior said:
http://get.cm/?device=bravo
http://forum.oxygen.im/viewtopic.php?id=1476
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i didnt really get your post but i thuink i got the idea there is no ics stable rom =(
cronus101 said:
OK, there's the thing. If you are looking for a stable ics+ or ics+ with sense, your out of luck. The htc desire will not be able to support it with help from htc's own engineers/developers. However, if you are willing to use a fairly buggy rom, just pick any and see how you like it. In short, stop asking and just do it. Enjoy flashing.
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please read the whole story before you reply because you missed 2 things 1.i dont want sense 2.this is not for me
by the way you can be nicer =(
but thank you for your answer any where
xzfzx said:
i didnt really get your post but i thuink i got the idea there is no ics stable rom =(
please read the whole story before you reply because you missed 2 things 1.i dont want sense 2.this is not for me
by the way you can be nicer =(
but thank you for your answer any where
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Sorry. Wasn't trying to be rude. Just stating with or without sense. I ment you as in general terms.
xzfzx said:
I really want her to be impressed with android (although it does not matter what UI he have as long its not AOKP because i didnt love it )
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If you want her to be impressed with Android, don't flash any ICS/JB as they are filled with various problems that noobs keep on making threads about them. You don't want your sister to have that impression that Android is a crappy OS don't you?
Stable? Go with AOSP CyanogenMod7 or Oxygen roms or at least anything that is based on those roms. Yeah it's Gingerbread but it's a fully working OS. They aren't eye candy but you'll have little to no complaints coming from your sister about this or that not working.
stankyou said:
If you want her to be impressed with Android, don't flash any ICS/JB as they are filled with various problems that noobs keep on making threads about them. You don't want your sister to have that impression that Android is a crappy OS don't you?
Stable? Go with AOSP CyanogenMod7 or Oxygen roms or at least anything that is based on those roms. Yeah it's Gingerbread but it's a fully working OS. They aren't eye candy but you'll have little to no complaints coming from your sister about this or that not working.
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you are probably right and she never had android before so i think she will love it with or with out the T9 dialer
but what about >>MIUI<< rom i asked once if he is stable the developer said it is and its ics any reccomendations?
or you still think i hsould go with 2.3 and forget about stabl ics for now
xzfzx said:
you are probably right and she never had android before so i think she will love it with or with out the T9 dialer
but what about >>MIUI<< rom i asked once if he is stable the developer said it is and its ics any reccomendations?
or you still think i hsould go with 2.3 and forget about stabl ics for now
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Go 2.3
CyanogenMod7 has a T9 dialer. It's not as fancy as Sense but it works.
stankyou said:
CyanogenMod7 has a T9 dialer. It's not as fancy as Sense but it works.
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but i need one in hebrew :/ i gave up on that idea any way but thank you for pointing that what =)
ICS rom is pretty stable now, you can try Nikez or CM9, both is :good:
azrage said:
ICS rom is pretty stable now, you can try Nikez or CM9, both is :good:
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i used nikez for a while and the lack of tweaks at the status bar made me move on to another rom ,can you recommend on a CM9 based rom or give me a link?
Hi,
install the latest leedroid its not ICS but fast and stable and has good sense UI (girls like it )
azrage said:
ICS rom is pretty stable now, you can try Nikez or CM9, both is :good:
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Pretty stable? Then why the hell does the developer still tags it as pre-alpha/beta/wip then?

Any reason to go JB or ICS?

Hello,
I am a long time CM7 user. Since there is no official CM9 or CM10 comming out for the Desire, I was wondering whether there is any real reason to dive into ICS or JB waters.
From what I could find, ICS should have USB host in the kernel and JB a faster UI. Now how does this translate to our device? Is there a real performance benefit or are these roms coming out just for sake of having the latest android?
note: I am running everything from SD with S2E on CM7 as there is not nearly enough internal memory in the Desire for me, so performance penalty here on GB as well...
jarda-wien said:
these roms coming out just for sake of having the latest android
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Answer in your question, since there is no chance for Desire to get full HWA/vsync (project butter) i see no reasons to use it. (not to mention there are still loads of issues like camcorder etc.)
Actual hwa/vsync in desire rom's is not a real deal, it's just a half working hacks.
Yeah, well... The only reason why I'm looking forward for ics and jb is sense 4 Other than that, I guess that gb is the best for our device.
Nikez JB rom has most everything working and the nightlys have the camera issues fixed. I went from CM7 to Nikez JB ROM just to see if it was worth it and its so much better than cm7 i cant go back.
Make a nandroid of your cm7 install and try it out at worst you are out an hour of time.
Look for Evervolv-turba-3.1.0-bravo-nightly-DATEXXXX.zip at http://dl.evervolv.com/nightly if you want the camera fixes.
syowr said:
Nikez JB rom has most everything working and the nightlys have the camera issues fixed. I went from CM7 to Nikez JB ROM just to see if it was worth it and its so much better than cm7 i cant go back.
Make a nandroid of your cm7 install and try it out at worst you are out an hour of time.
Look for Evervolv-turba-3.1.0-bravo-nightly-DATEXXXX.zip at http://dl.evervolv.com/nightly if you want the camera fixes.
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Camera has been fixed about a month back or more (though preview with stock camera is still glitched), we are talking about camcorder.
Also can you specify what exactly is better than CM7?
For example, CM7 gives you about twice more free RAM on boot than ICS/JB. (and ICS/JB is supposed to be multitasking, go figure lol)
So yeah, go record some video using this ROM and upload it to YT, i will have good laugh.
Hi,
try the AOKP its very good its another feeling :cyclops:
k3lcior said:
Camera has been fixed about a month back or more (though preview with stock camera is still glitched), we are talking about camcorder.
Also can you specify what exactly is better than CM7?
For example, CM7 gives you about twice more free RAM on boot than ICS/JB. (and ICS/JB is supposed to be multitasking, go figure lol)
So yeah, go record some video using this ROM and upload it to YT, i will have good laugh.
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No kelcior you are wrong. Woh built legacy camera and so Evervolv. Now in last nightlies camera works without glitches but camcorder doesn't...
just to report correct informations.
I agree: do a nandroid and try it out. I did the same weeks ago and I'll do for the next a1 from Nikez
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What about smoothness of operation and free ram? Do those new roms work slower/eat up more memory?
[k3lcior;34069023]Camera has been fixed about a month back or more (though preview with stock camera is still glitched), we are talking about camcorder.
So yeah, go record some video using this ROM and upload it to YT, i will have good laugh.[/QUOTE]
Actually the camera fixes as mentioned above are in the nightlies. Only you, not us, were talking about the camcorder and for no reason you decided to be a **** about too... classy.
@Impactor: The ROM runs remarkably well. Very smooth and fast. Really though don't take my word, or kelciors, on it just make a nandroid and give it a whirl if you don't like it then it's a piece of cake to restore back.
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What about smoothness of operation and free ram? Do those new roms work slower/eat up more memory?
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ICS/JB eats about twice more RAM than GB ROM's just on boot.
I don't know what do you mean by "just on boot". Does it mean after boot it drops to GB level?
impactor said:
I don't know what do you mean by "just on boot". Does it mean after boot it drops to GB level?
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Of course not. Engage brain.
He means just from the phone booting up it uses more RAM than GB. Not including apps you launch
To be fair to jellybean if it was coded properly for the desire it would be considerably faster than gingerbread.
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It would be more beneficial if people engaged their brains to word their thoughts less ambiguous.
Anyway, thanks for clarification. I guess I will have to see for myself if it's worth doing.
impactor said:
It would be more beneficial if people engaged their brains to word their thoughts less ambiguous.
Anyway, thanks for clarification. I guess I will have to see for myself if it's worth doing.
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Sorry I kind of agree (even though I don't see the other interpretation.)
As for the jellybean ROMs no offense to the devs but they were always going to be hacked together ports. If Google brought jellybean to the nexus one it would be nothing like the ports (performance wise)
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Have you tried Evervolv rom? I heard many good thing about it's performance on Desire.
impactor said:
Have you tried Evervolv rom? I heard many good thing about it's performance on Desire.
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Its the best 4.0+ ROM for desire but I still don't think its quite as fast as some 2.3 roms
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Reasons for Android 4.0:
http://www.android.com/about/ice-cream-sandwich/
http://www.android.com/whatsnew/
But I guess you know about the new features, so why you're asking?
About RAM: You obviously aren't into Linux/Android that much, but used RAM actually isn't a bad thing.
k3lcior said:
Answer in your question, since there is no chance for Desire to get full HWA/vsync (project butter) i see no reasons to use it. (not to mention there are still loads of issues like camcorder etc.)
Actual hwa/vsync in desire rom's is not a real deal, it's just a half working hacks.
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Could you define "loads of issues"? I only see camcorder, sometimes 3g drops.
boleguc said:
Yeah, well... The only reason why I'm looking forward for ics and jb is sense 4 Other than that, I guess that gb is the best for our device.
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Really? Sense will always be a big discussion, but 4 is still bloated. It doesn't have additional features and the UI mostly can be themed.
syowr said:
Nikez JB rom has most everything working and the nightlys have the camera issues fixed. I went from CM7 to Nikez JB ROM just to see if it was worth it and its so much better than cm7 i cant go back.
Make a nandroid of your cm7 install and try it out at worst you are out an hour of time.
Look for Evervolv-turba-3.1.0-bravo-nightly-DATEXXXX.zip at http://dl.evervolv.com/nightly if you want the camera fixes.
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Thanks for trying and not just complaining
dethrat said:
Sorry I kind of agree (even though I don't see the other interpretation.)
As for the jellybean ROMs no offense to the devs but they were always going to be hacked together ports. If Google brought jellybean to the nexus one it would be nothing like the ports (performance wise)
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Actually, there are ports, yes, all Sense roms are ports, some JB Roms are ports, but some aren't.
And HTC is known for thee "hacks" you mention aswell. You shouldn't have bought a Desire if you don't like hacks.
impactor said:
Have you tried Evervolv rom? I heard many good thing about it's performance on Desire.
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The performance is good.
WoH said:
Could you define "loads of issues"? I only see camcorder, sometimes 3g drops.
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First one that comes to my mind, blinking/flashing Youtube videos. (issue exists for about half year already in ICS/JB)
Broken camcorder you mentioned (15 fps recording) wasn't fixed for about a year already (since first ICS builds)
Non working flash (and the JB compatibility doesn't matter, it has been confirmed working on other devices with workaround), dont want to go into details it just doesnt work in Desire JB ROM's.
Want more? JB/ICS is much larger in size, which means YOU HAVE TO use ext partition for a2sd solution, while on GB ROM's internal memory can be enough with custom hboot. (just dont tell me there is no speed difference between internal / sd :laugh
And since Qualcomm/HTC will NEVER release libs/source for all the drivers, there will be never fully working HWA/Butter.
WoH said:
About RAM: You obviously aren't into Linux/Android that much, but used RAM actually isn't a bad thing.
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Yeah, especially when you run out of RAM entire framework/launcher restarting, maybe not a bad thing but utterly annoying. (it never happens on GB ROM's.)
Just to show what's the difference, upon booting JB ROM you'll have about 150-160Mb free RAM, on GB (cm7, mildwild w/e) it's about 290-300Mb free RAM - go figure.
So yeah, i think i'm fine with Android/Linux knowledge.
WoH said:
The performance is good.
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Until you'll run out of RAM, which happens quite often @ JB.
WoH said:
all Sense roms are ports
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Dafuq?
k3lcior said:
Yeah, especially when you run out of RAM entire framework/launcher restarting, maybe not a bad thing but utterly annoying. (it never happens on GB ROM's.)
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Um.. yea it does...

[Q] Is it worth switching to CM10 and Jelly Bean on my Dinc

I'm running CM9 with no real problems. Is it worth switching to CM10 and Jelly Bean? Is there more problems with JB than ICS for the dinc and dose the video work on JB? I know it is more demanding on the cpu but is the preformance worse than ICS?
joeyz400 said:
I'm running CM9 with no real problems. Is it worth switching to CM10 and Jelly Bean? Is there more problems with JB than ICS for the dinc and dose the video work on JB? I know it is more demanding on the cpu but is the preformance worse than ICS?
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What defines video? I mean you can see what does and what doesn't work easily in the CM10 thread. It also doesn't take long to make a nandroid and test JB out. There's also other threads about it's performance and if it's the best, etc. CM10 is worth it to me and quite a few others.
TLDR: Flash it and see for yourself.
I've read so much information it just gets confusing. Sometimes it seems when I try to improve on something I wind up messing up my phone. Yeah i could record video in mov. format format but it's a hassle. Which version of cm10 are u running? I read that on some roms have a problem reading SD card.
joeyz400 said:
I've read so much information it just gets confusing. Sometimes it seems when I try to improve on something I wind up messing up my phone. Yeah i could record video in mov. format format but it's a hassle. Which version of cm10 are u running? I read that on some roms have a problem reading SD card.
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Honestly, just flash it and try it. If it doesn't work for you, you now know. The SD card problems were never in CM, but in Rom Manager, which has been fixed and isn't even included anymore in CM.
Zimeron said:
Honestly, just flash it and try it. If it doesn't work for you, you now know. The SD card problems were never in CM, but in Rom Manager, which has been fixed and isn't even included anymore in CM.
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I agree just try it. For me there was no comparison between the performance of CM9 and CM10. CM10 was much better.
CM 10 seems better for me. Even when some of the function like video camera not works so well but still i prefer CM 10. And you better try yourself. since nandroid backup and TB was invented i never afraid for switching and testing roms
joeyz400 said:
I'm running CM9 with no real problems. Is it worth switching to CM10 and Jelly Bean? Is there more problems with JB than ICS for the dinc and dose the video work on JB? I know it is more demanding on the cpu but is the preformance worse than ICS?
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I was using CM9 for a while and decided to try out CM10(pons) last week and will stick with it going forward. Video recording isn't a big deal to me and YouTube does flicker a little but it's not that bad. Other than that it seems as responsive as, or more than, CM9(invisiblek) for how I use my phone.
Which CM9 build are you on?
joeyz400 said:
I'm running CM9 with no real problems. Is it worth switching to CM10 and Jelly Bean? Is there more problems with JB than ICS for the dinc and dose the video work on JB? I know it is more demanding on the cpu but is the preformance worse than ICS?
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Which CM9 are you using? (Since it was never officially released, and there are a few different dev builds out there from those as who were so kind to pick up the project and run with it, Which one have you (or anyone here) found has work the best?) (And, as always, a link plz)
I have to agree with just giving cm10 a try. Pons' builds are excellent. Google Now is also cool. Download goomanager and use twrp for the best experience.
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Make a nandroid and try it. Its really, really good. I have had almost no problems, it is super fast, and everything seems to work(except video recording). It also supports OTA updates which is cool but you will need TWRP recovery.
I just moved to cm10 yesterday and so far I really like it. I say give it a shot and see what you think.
I say go for it! I first went with the AOSP RC3, but it was very very laggy. I switched to Pon's CM10, and it is absolutely amazing. It is as smooth and fast as my HTC Evo 3D which has a dual-core processor and more than double the RAM!
I highly, highly recommend CM10!
I was very impressed when I switched to the CM10 builds from CM9, CM10 is much smoother in my opinion.
Yes! So worth it tinys cm10 is super stable and smooth
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My wife's Inc has been running great on Tiny's CM10's as well. Fast, stable, and she hasn't had problems in daily use.
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Give it a shot!
I have been running pons' cm10 builds for a few months and would definitely recommend giving them a shot! (tiny is building based on pons' work at the moment, since pons' computer died) The thread is very active and informative, you should give it a read.

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