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what is the difference between nightly and stable??
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You basically just said it.
Nightly- not stable and each one builds upon the other and fixes bugs
Stable- completely working, bugs fixed, no problems besides user error
evouser22 said:
what is the difference between nightly and stable??
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Interestingly, with CM7, the nighties are themselves, very very capable and remarkably stable. Definitely stable enough to be most people's daily driver.
I run nightlues all the time and they are very stable. Much better than rls1 ever was. A full stable should be coming soon though.
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Like the people above me said, Nightlies are compiled every night (usually) and aren't considered by Team Douche to be "stable." Oh, and if you file a bug report about something in a Nightly, expect to be burned at the stake.
RC's are a tad more stable than Nightlies (typically) and while they don't include the latest-and-greatest features all the time (ie, RC1 is now outdated and doesn't have WiMAX or the battery percentage in the status bar), you can file bug reports about them and they'll usually get solved.
Stables are just what their name says: Stable. There's rarely any major bugs in them, and when bugs are discovered, a bug report can be filed, and assuming it's not an 1D10T error, gets fixed, and integrated into the next Nightly/RC/Stable, or they'll just make a .1 release (ie, 7.0.0 to 7.0.1 and so on).
Right now though, CM is in feature freeze, so all that's going into Nightlies right now are bugfixes (for example, the WiMAX code for EVO broke a bunch of other phones in weird ways, and the Nexus One has a "wonky" bug). We'll probably see RC2 in a week or two, and then 7.0.0 stable within a month.
i'm thinking of going with aokp, but it's kinda a "turn off" for me when it comes out with a weekly build and i feel the need to constantly check on the forums and flash to a new one
what's a good one that is just solid that doesn't require a new build update every week?
You can go Aokp because the last stable build is milestone #4 all the other builds that come out are just a nightly.
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Addictedtothegreenguy said:
You can go Aokp because the last stable build is milestone #4 all the other builds that come out are just a nightly.
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i understand but having nightly builds makes me feel like i need to constantly upgrade to the newest one
Just... don't update then? If your setup works well just leave it. You can always skip updates.
I'd go with Bamf Paradigm. Uniquely built AOSP rom, stable, and good battery life. Try it for yourself, you'll be amazed
And quality over quantity - no hyper change logs every 4 days, but if you're in for something different, jump in.
if that is such a problem then just flash AOKP Milestones... not AOKP Nightlies + Milestones.
Milestones are for people who don't want to keep updating. These milestones come 1-2 week.
Honestly, if updating a ROM / Kernel is a "turn off" because a developer is maintaining their ROM / kernel at a rate to improve your phone more and more and you don't want to stick with that maybe you should of stayed on stock ROM/kernel? Because this is like me hearing that people are complaining about a dev updating their ROM / kernel way too much.
When you rush through things and do not test enough, you end up missing issues, which ncreases the need to update the rom more frequently.
BAMF Paradigm does not release updates like mad because for every release, we have at least 3-4 testing releases to our beta testers to find and fix bugs. We do not like to consider our users the beta testers.
Hi,
I wonder if i should switch from CM7 to ICS/Andromadus.
is Andromadus ready for exeryday use yet? (i don't mind a few bugs, glitches or even a freeze a week. But i need a working phone)
how does it compare to CM7? (battery life, performance)
is CM9 worth a try? (there is no official build or is there?)
i've tried these three roms and know i've Andromadus beta 3
cyano 9 has got a lot of bugs and make a lot of freeze (with beta 3 i've got 3 freeze in 6 hours)
the battery with Andro goes well, nothing special but the performance are excellent
you have to try it
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i've tried these three roms and know i've Andromadus beta 3
cyano 9 has got a lot of bugs and make a lot of freeze (with beta 3 i've got 3 freeze in 6 hours)
the battery with Andro goes well, nothing special but the performance are excellent
you have to try it
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I think my battery has been lasting less since I flashed andro. Anyways I think it's the best rom out, so I'll keep staying with it and its test builds...
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is Andromadus ready for exeryday use yet? (i don't mind a few bugs, glitches or even a freeze a week. But i need a working phone)
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I believe yes, it is certainly ready for everyday use. I haven't gotten many glitches/freezes since beta 2 (even then a glitch or reboot might happen once a week max). Pretty much everything works (mms, camera has no preview glitch, etc).
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how does it compare to CM7? (battery life, performance)
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IMO it's an upgrade feature wise. Many system apps and functions are just more polished IMO (contacts, dialer with google voice integration, etc). Battery life is noticeably worse than CM7 but I am still able to get through a day with no issues (my CM7 battery life ranged from 28-36 hours while Andromadus seems to be more like 19-28 depending on my usage).
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is CM9 worth a try? (there is no official build or is there?)
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Andromadus merges nearly everything from CyanogenMod's ICS branch (I think). This is apparent in the system settings such as lock screen customizations, notification bar toggles, etc. YES, it's worth a try!!
Andromadus. At least til cm9 comes out
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Android_Monsters said:
Andromadus. At least til cm9 comes out
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It looks like an official vision build of cm9 may never come out
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blk_jack said:
It looks like an official vision build of cm9 may never come out
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Cyanogen himself has a desire z so we'll get a official build when HTC stops dragging there feet and releases the desire hd kernel source.
That aside I too was a little iffy about flashing Androdamus being that there were a lot of bugs in the earlier beta's, So I waited a few months I'm glad that I did its good enuff to be used as a daily driver now. Depending on your battery (I bought a htc extended one over a month ago) the life will vary on heavy usage I get about 4 to 5 hrs, On Moderate I get 8 plus.
Andromadus is a HUGE upgrade from CM7 not only is it a newer version of Android but everything is more organized as far as settings and features go. Flash it if u don't like it you can always go back. . .
I stuck with CM6 until a week ago, tried CM9.
(totally skipped GB).
I flashed the CM9 and Andro ROMs.
I stuck with Andro since the camera actually worked...
So far - way less battery life, laggier than CM6 (our phones don't have the HP needed it's snappy enough for everyday use, it's just... you know, it's not like a dual core 1.4GHz phone). Lots of little bugs (missed notifications? can't use google voice / gtalk voice, graphical glitches sometimes, crashing programs, hanging) but if you only use a few apps and browse simple sites / check news it's not so bad.
Since you're on XDA it's almost safe to assume this won't phase you too much. It's not "THAT" bad, but it is definitely not like a commercial release yet. Many many things being worked out BUT it's definitely "usable".
I'm still using it It's just very annoying to have to update reimport contacts etc when new versions of the ROM come out. (I don't use contact sync). It's also annoying because of the app crashes or things that "don't work" like instagram etc. However, it looks way better than froyo!
If all your looking for is pretty, just use gingerbread with an ics theme
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does anyone know how to overclock DesireZ on Andromadus?
c00ller said:
I believe yes, it is certainly ready for everyday use. I haven't gotten many glitches/freezes since beta 2 (even then a glitch or reboot might happen once a week max). Pretty much everything works (mms, camera has no preview glitch, etc).
IMO it's an upgrade feature wise. Many system apps and functions are just more polished IMO (contacts, dialer with google voice integration, etc). Battery life is noticeably worse than CM7 but I am still able to get through a day with no issues (my CM7 battery life ranged from 28-36 hours while Andromadus seems to be more like 19-28 depending on my usage).
Andromadus merges nearly everything from CyanogenMod's ICS branch (I think). This is apparent in the system settings such as lock screen customizations, notification bar toggles, etc. YES, it's worth a try!!
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excellent answer，btw，this rom also have some bugs i think ,some apps cant work perfectly,yeah,bugs maybe come from apps....
everything works perfect,but phone seems to delay a few munites than cm7.sorry for my bad english
Using this one, works great.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1492461
I love CyanogenMod, I really do. It is constantly improving and the devs working on it obviously work very hard to keep things running smoothly. However, with a codebase this large, constant improvements inevitably leads to a fairly consistent stream of new bugs amidst the improvements. I understand that nightlies are not intended to be used as daily drivers, although usually they are stable enough for most here at XDA.
Acknowledging all of this: I can't help but wish on some days that I could take the excellent skills/care/devotion of the CyanogenMod team and have them devote a fraction of their work to create a pure, optimized AOSP ROM. No mods, no community apps, and (hopefully) no bugs. This would be an incredible stop-gap between the initial build of a new CM nightlie (say, CM11) and the inevitable stable release.
This is NOT a statement against the added mods/apps to CyanogenMod (File Manager, Apollo, DSP Manager, etc.), I am very much of the opinion that these additions are beneficial, even necessary to the growth of CyanogenMod.
I do not expect this to happen, and I especially do not expect them to go back through CM10 and line-by-line strip all of their adjustments/additions. I understand that they are all very busy at work to keep us happy, and I appreciate that. Think of this as wishful thinking from a big fan.
Am I alone in this opinion?
it is called an AOSP rom. in this case vanilla. get a nexus device for that
Obviously, but I think you're missing my point...or you didn't read my post.
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create a pure, optimized AOSP ROM. No mods, no community apps, and (hopefully) no bugs.
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A vanilla android rom with a custom kernel
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A vanilla android rom with a custom kernel
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Yes, but done by devs that know what they're doing.
Every single dev here knows what they are doing. Plus aosp is easy to compile for any device
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I don't see any after a quick search. I've used pure vanilla ROMs on my evo/evo3d and they were pretty terrible. I just assumed, by prior experience and lack of vanilla roms here, that they were tricky.
no, thats just because AOSP roms lack features that people crave from CM or AOKP
Alright, so we're back to my initial post now.
In other words an aosp pure android rom is not people look forward to. Cm10 stable rom is there and probably with like one minor bug or two.
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I know how you feel; I wish they would release a stable ROM for those that prefer stability over speed/features
EXACTLY. i love how hard the devs work to improve android and add features but until its possible to get a stable rom with these features I'd prefer simple, pure vanilla with all work going towards stability. Maybe I'll start on that one day
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ohfoxxxycole said:
EXACTLY. i love how hard the devs work to improve android and add features but until its possible to get a stable rom with these features I'd prefer simple, pure vanilla with all work going towards stability. Maybe I'll start on that one day
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You can't ask for optimization with stability. The nightlies are there because that's what they're trying to achieve, if it's not stable enough for you - don't use it. Go back to TW. That's the closest to pure stable for this device you're going to get. There are -always- bugs, even in the most fine tuned software, because it's all about what the user puts on their devices and how it interacts with the system.
Plus, not too long ago CM released the CM10 Milestone 2. It's stable enough for daily use. Give that a shot. If it's not to your liking, pull CM's device tree into a freshly synced repo of AOSP and compile it. See how easy it is to get it working.
There are -always- bugs, even in the most fine tuned software, because it's all about what the user puts on their devices and how it interacts with the system.
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this is true, but i'd be using this with mostly stock software + social network feeds and games only
the milestones are a great idea, and probably the closest thing im going to get to this, but they are still snapshots of mostly stable aosp with many many tweaks to keep modifications that i may or may not use stable. not exactly ideal, but thanks for the suggestion. i'll probably stick with the newest m build when it is ready.
im not asking for cms device tree compiled as it is, or anything at all. im just hoping that before or adjacent to cm11 getting going with mods and tweaks that they will release builds tailored to vanilla and nothing else, concentrating only on bugs before adding things and testing them and adding things and breaking things and testing them and so on and so forth. i feel im not communicating this efficiently and im sorry
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You can't ask for optimization with stability. The nightlies are there because that's what they're trying to achieve, if it's not stable enough for you - don't use it. Go back to TW. That's the closest to pure stable for this device you're going to get. There are -always- bugs, even in the most fine tuned software, because it's all about what the user puts on their devices and how it interacts with the system.
Plus, not too long ago CM released the CM10 Milestone 2. It's stable enough for daily use. Give that a shot. If it's not to your liking, pull CM's device tree into a freshly synced repo of AOSP and compile it. See how easy it is to get it working.
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Does the bottom mic work on M2? What about the data drops that constantly happen? Does it transition well from LTE to 3G, vice versa?
And these are serious questions, I'm not trying to be a [email protected] at all.
I have a 20 month old baby girl so I do a lot of video recording, so the bottom mic is important to me since the top one doesn't pick anything up unless you're basically speaking directly into it. I do a lot of business through my phone, so a reliable data connection is obviously very important too. I've had BB6 on my phone for about a week now, and I absolutely love it...with these two exceptions. It seems they're both problems with all AOSP ROMs. If they get fixed sooner rather than later, there will be zero reason to have TW ROM for me.
EDIT: And GPS seems to take quite a bit longer to lock on compared to TW.
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Does the bottom mic work on M2? What about the data drops that constantly happen? Does it transition well from LTE to 3G, vice versa?
And these are serious questions, I'm not trying to be a [email protected] at all.
I have a 20 month old baby girl so I do a lot of video recording, so the bottom mic is important to me since the top one doesn't pick anything up unless you're basically speaking directly into it. I do a lot of business through my phone, so a reliable data connection is obviously very important too. I've had BB6 on my phone for about a week now, and I absolutely love it...with these two exceptions. It seems they're both problems with all AOSP ROMs. If they get fixed sooner rather than later, there will be zero reason to have TW ROM for me.
EDIT: And GPS seems to take quite a bit longer to lock on compared to TW.
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I was using m2 for quite a while before I switched over to bb6. In my time playing with m2 I found that video recording was fine and data connectivity took about 10 seconds longer on a reboot. Other than that I've experienced no data drops.
To add to this, YMMV. I'm not sure if my phone is different somehow but I've never had any of these problems that people describe with data drops at random.
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Also, as far as lte/3g hand off goes, I'm unable to test as I'm not in an lte area. As for GPS, it takes about 7 seconds to lock on in a room with no windows. Tested on slimbean, so again YMMV
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Just try looking into building aosp from source its really not that hard it will just take some time. You could even use the device tree for d2spr from cm so you really will just be using pure stock
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ohfoxxxycole said:
I don't see any after a quick search. I've used pure vanilla ROMs on my evo/evo3d and they were pretty terrible. I just assumed, by prior experience and lack of vanilla roms here, that they were tricky.
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You're clearly smoking some good crack. AOSP ROMs for the E3D are awesome right now.
Months ago
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I just updated my LGOG with spleef's AOKP 9/08 rom (4.3), and while some issues were fixed (i.e., camera focus, finally!), some new issues came up:
Colors seem washed out; not by much, but noticeably so.
Camera only goes to 8 MP, also no HDR (may be an issue with the GApps I flashed)
Kernel crash when recording video. (also may be GApps issue)
I guess I can live with the colors issue, since it might just be my eyes playing tricks on me. Hopefully this is just me flashing the wrong GApps.
Btw, I have gapps-jb-20130813-signed.zip.
Any help is greatly appreciated:laugh:
Yeah I'm working on it my man, the Camera is a weird one cause I'm using same sources in all but only aokp build with 8mp... the video stood in thinking is related to the hardware qcom sources they are being changed and updated daily.... Only advice I can offer is to try to be patient... these 4.3 ROMs are in early stages so as they progress things will be added/removed, fixed/broken, but you can rest assured these bugs will be worked out eventually.... I use these gapps
http://db.tt/3liRIaze...try them next time you do a fresh flash ... sorry for new issues I know they are an inconvenience but with everyone working together like we do they will be squashed
Alright, sounds good. Also, I tried benchmarking with Epic Citadel, and that also caused a kernel crash.
ERAUguy said:
Alright, sounds good. Also, I tried benchmarking with Epic Citadel, and that also caused a kernel crash.
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Yeah issue was either kernel related or hardware both have been updated so maybe won't happen again on today's builds
Jxt. said:
you should try to flash different kernels like Liberty evolve or codecraft just remember to backup your current rom before flashing those kernels just in case there not compatible..
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Yeah, I'm currently downloading a 9/05 build of spleef's Carbon ROM. I backed up everything last night also, so if all else fails, I can just revert to that old AOKP backup.
Ok, so I have the Carbon rom installed now, and I tried to flash my data (apps, etc.) back using TWRP. So I did, and stuff kept crashing left and right. I wiped and reflashed Carbon, and everythings fine. Is it not possible to restore my apps if I switched from AOKP to Carbon?
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Ok, so I have the Carbon rom installed now, and I tried to flash my data (apps, etc.) back using TWRP. So I did, and stuff kept crashing left and right. I wiped and reflashed Carbon, and everythings fine. Is it not possible to restore my apps if I switched from AOKP to Carbon?
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Apps yes system apps no system data no some apps data no id wait though for today's carbon it has several major fixes... Well worth waiting for... Lol, aokp source hasn't updated in two days ( the parts we use at least) but when I build it tonight I'm going to make sure those sabre fixes are in there I've never restored with twrp though I use titanium for my apps
So I updated the Carbon rom to the 9/09 one. After a day of use, there were no glitches, force-closes, crashes... pretty much flawless :good: I actually like it so much that I think I'll stick with your Carbon (over AOKP) for a while.
EDIT: I noticed that HDR isn't in the default camera application, and the HDR in the Focal camera app didn't apply HDR to the picture. Would it be possible for it to be added in? It worked well enough in 4.2.
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So I updated the Carbon rom to the 9/09 one. After a day of use, there were no glitches, force-closes, crashes... pretty much flawless :good: I actually like it so much that I think I'll stick with your Carbon (over AOKP) for a while.
EDIT: I noticed that HDR isn't in the default camera application, and the HDR in the Focal camera app didn't apply HDR to the picture. Would it be possible for it to be added in? It worked well enough in 4.2.
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possibly in the future but right now hw is making alot of changes on a daily basis so probably will come when things become more stable