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128 gb microsd...when is enough ENOUGH!

Come on folks...128gb microsd?!?!
At first I was excited about the Sandisk announcement (http://dailymobile.se/2008/10/20/sandisk-to-develop-128gb-micosd/); but then I asked one question--When will this end?
I'm torn between constantly buying "the next biggest memory card" versus start storing everything I need online.
Sure they both have their PROs and CONs -- but since 99% of my travels are in a 3G area...
...why NOT use one of the many FREE picture/file stores online?
...and why NOT watch movies and vids online instead of a downloaded copy to my memory card?
...and why not start storing my contacts, calendar, tasks and everyday To Do lists online too?
...and why not even run my desktop applications online where I can access them anywhere I have connectivity?
We Tech OGs know this "cloud computing (Web 3.0)" is nothing new--remember DUMB TERMINALS and THIN CLIENTS? Amongst other advantages, it was SUPPOSE to put a halt to ever-growing disk space needs and excessive licensing costs back in the 1980s and 90s. It didn't really fly...and so now Here we go again.
With only a handful of today's mobile devices having more than 640K of RAM, maybe Bill Gates was right after all when he supposedly said "640K of memory should be enough for anybody".

What is better than to have a large cyclinder capacity?
Right - even more cyclinder capacity ...
I am not traveling always in good 3G connection area and I like to carry arround the data I need. The more the better, for me it is realy that simple.
Wikipedia, MP3s, Navigation, Presentations, fotos, documents, etc.
With a smal card I have to select the data. The larger the card the easier it will be - just have everything.
Claus

128GB on a MicroSD card is just insane.

Been there...done that
dingolino said:
What is better than to have a large cyclinder capacity?
Right - even more cyclinder capacity ...
I am not traveling always in good 3G connection area and I like to carry arround the data I need. The more the better, for me it is realy that simple.
Wikipedia, MP3s, Navigation, Presentations, fotos, documents, etc.
With a smal card I have to select the data. The larger the card the easier it will be - just have everything.
Claus
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Until about 2 years ago, I loaded gigs of TomTom and Mapopolis maps to my SD card. The problem was those maps NEVER had street names and areas less than 4 years old. So I abandoned that and started using Google Maps, YahooGo and Nav4All. The only downside is that an internet connection is now required. I'm now starting to go online with fotos so I can share. I abandoned loading encyclopedias, dictionaries and wikis to my SD cards a long time ago. To me loading those on a card is the same as carrying around hard/printed copies. It's outdated the second you put it on paper. By accessing those online, in theory, you'll have the latest updates.
My only concern with accessing contacts, calendar, tasks and documents online is SECURITY.

Not long ago I spent $60 on a 4GB micro SDHC
Haven't come close to filling it -- but when I saw a 8GB for only $25 last week, I just had to grab it.
I just might do the same when 16GB get to that price point.

burtcom said:
Not long ago I spent $60 on a 4GB micro SDHC
Haven't come close to filling it -- but when I saw a 8GB for only $25 last week, I just had to grab it.
I just might do the same when 16GB get to that price point.
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I spent the equivalent of $12 on a 4GB Micro SDHC the other day.

I have the same problem and now it has been sorted!

dingolino said:
What is better than to have a large cyclinder capacity?
Right - even more cyclinder capacity ...
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Meanwhile this rule of thumb isn't true anymore. The pressure inside the cylinder affects the power of an engine too. So more cylinder capacity isn't neccessary that much.

Had a 512MB SD Card - was enougth but a bit too small ... !
Upgraded to a 1GB SD Card - was enougth but again became a bit too small.
Bought me a 2GB SD Card - damn, still not enough space ... !
Got me a 4GB Card - ... will it ever be large enough for my needs?
Sitting on my 8GB Card - ... not enough space !!!
Well, avoided so far the 16Gig Card because I think it is just too expensive! Hopefully prices will drop soon - so, 128GB would be cool, I could get rid of my 160GB USB drive.
However, I doubt that any currently available MOBILE HANDSET would be capable of handling a 128GB Card ... !

..let me hear ya say tera. oh yeah

The more space you have, the more space you´ll need/use
So the "When is enough" will have to be answered by users and not by manufacturers. The day we don´t buy something that will be the day when they maybe say "Now it´s enough"

Keep in mind those Cards will be used as well for other things then Phones. with a USB reader ( that you could carry on your key chain) you could carry complete data of your desktop with those. (pictures. movies,music etc)
I am selling those readers and many company's that have been using CD/DVDs moving to USB readers with cards. >see the picture for sample<

Solon said:
Meanwhile this rule of thumb isn't true anymore. The pressure inside the cylinder affects the power of an engine too. So more cylinder capacity isn't neccessary that much.
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Untill you also fill that bigger cylinder with more air....

I suppose the question is not necessarily whether or not "when will enough be enough" but more so "when will they develope phones with much better camera and video quality? That is when the large SD cards will come in handy. 4 years ago Samsung made a great phone for Verizon Wireless. It did nto sell well because it never had a great sale on it but the thing had amazing video, camera, and even voice to text on it.

Hyden121 said:
I suppose the question is not necessarily whether or not "when will enough be enough" but more so "when will they develope phones with much better camera and video quality? That is when the large SD cards will come in handy. 4 years ago Samsung made a great phone for Verizon Wireless. It did nto sell well because it never had a great sale on it but the thing had amazing video, camera, and even voice to text on it.
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like this nokia n98? id rather buy a camera and a phone/pda i mean its not like digital zoom is amazing or anything, but yeah that would use alot of space, so would a phone with better screen resolution then all of the games/videos would be bigger. there probably wont ever be an end because people are lazy so they program lazy and dont optimize code and people want everything to be hd so everything will be bloated just for graphics

Wow, that is a pretty sweet phone anda carl zeis lens is really killer for a phone! So I guess that would be a yes.

so this is still using the SDHC interface or what??
it wouldnt make sencse to make a new subunit of SD if it can only go 128 Gb, because face it........ that isnt large enough to support another couple of years.
the jump from 2 Gb to 32 Gb was pritty big, 16 times the capacity.
32 Gb to 128 Gb is nothing compared to that first jump, its only 4 times bigger.

The real question should have been. Where can I get one and how much?

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The real question should have been. Where can I get one and how much?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13520709&postcount=8503
I plan to get the 128GB SDXC in that thread.

Thanks, but those are SD, not micro SD which is what we need for smartphones.

UK Phones with 16GB Storage

Thus far after much research it's looking like, for the UK at least, only the following phones will have 16GB of storage;
HTC Surround
LG Optimus 7
LG Optimus 7Q
All the others seem to have 8GB.
Bearing in mind I currently have an HD2 with a 16GB SD card in it, I was hoping that "upgrading" to WP7 would bring a jump in storage to at least 32GB. Now it looks like remaining at 16GB is the best I can hope for, and moving over to the HD7 would result in a halving of storage back to 8GB.
Anyway, the above 3 phones at least seem to offer the same storage as I currently have.
I'm guessing most of the phones only have 8GB so they can provide an upgrade path in 12 months time to 16 or 32, so that we can spend more money on buying yet another phone.
Bearing in mind I have 60GB of music and 20GB of photos, I'm a bit peeved. Especially as the iPhone seems to have up to 64GB.

I thought O2 were bumping up the HD7 to 16GB? At least that's what they have it listed as in their 'Coming soon' section and their press blog!

the hd7 in uk will have 16gh, some omnia 7's may do. I don't think the uk is getting the surround. I am hoping that the trophy has been hiding the fact it has sd cards as they are selling them on there website for that phone.

There have been a number of indicators recently that the HD7 has a microsd slot, so even a device with 8GB should be upgradable to 16 or 32GB. Jolly good.

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There have been a number of indicators recently that the HD7 has a microsd slot, so even a device with 8GB should be upgradable to 16 or 32GB. Jolly good.
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I am hoping that this is true as even though I have never used up an 8gig SD card, the games on WP7 will most likely be bigger than the games on Android.

To be honest I am struggling with there thinking that 8 GB memory is enough.
This phone is supposed to be for gaming,music,video,photos and office Documents. not to mention if you record in 720P the phone will be full in no time.

Yep, the HTC HD7 has 16GB memory. Just been confirmed by O2.
http://shop.o2.co.uk/mobile_phone/HTC/HD7
and an official price tag of £380.00...not that bad. I wonder what I can get for my HD2...

Casey_boy said:
...and an official price tag of £380.00...not that bad...
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Finally some adequate price. Hope we will see soon a good offers for other models as well.

I think I will hold off in buying HD7. I believe HTC will eventually raise the specs(hoping!wishing!) including the SD card slot. Might use my trusty HD2, which basically is HD7 with WM6.5 OS.

Omnia 7 16Gb
Samsung's site ( omnia7.samsungmobile.com ) state there's a 16Gb version under the Specifications.
Has anybody been able to actually CONFIRM this? Everyone I talk to denies knowledge if it even existing and Samsung haven't responded.
A 16Gb Omnia 7 is the only phone I'd consider getting now otherwise I'll just continue to wait.

According to this...
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/samsung-focus-review
The Samsung Focus is expandable to 40GB, i.e. it has a slot and you can use a 32GB card. Bonza!

Jim Coleman said:
According to this...
pocketnow.com/windows-phone/samsung-focus-review
The Samsung Focus is expandable to 40GB, i.e. it has a slot and you can use a 32GB card. Bonza!
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Thanks for the info, but unfortunately the Focus is US-only and isn't available here in the UK (for some unknown reason). 40Gb sure does sound good compared to the majority 8Gb models available in the UK :/

Just been down to the O2 shop this morning. Had a look under the battery and no SD card slot
However there is a plastic label so maybe there is on under there? We'll not know untill someone disassembles but so far it looks unlikely.

As MS is been tight lipped about WP7 until now, I was surprised... but expandable memory should not be an issue as MS wants the users to use the phone as Zune and play games...
I can’t see a reason to restrict ppl from expanding the memory....
honestly 16GB will be fine for me as i keep my music and videos on my 60GB touch... its almost full.. so i can never ***** about not enough memory on my phone..

I really cannot understand why OEM's created this frustration with the amount of the internal memory. At least they are using a soldered microSD cards so all of us know how much the difference between 8 and 16 GB costs. Even the iPhone 4, as typical overpriced Apple product, has £500 price tag and 16 GB internal memory. For comparison Omnia 7 has the same preorder price and the miserable 8 GB.
How they imagine competing with all of the marvellous Android phones that are coming and even with the iPhone? Or they just experimenting with the new platform...

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I really cannot understand why OEM's created this frustration with the amount of the internal memory. At least they are using a soldered microSD cards so all of us know how much the difference between 8 and 16 GB costs. Even the iPhone 4, as typical overpriced Apple product, has £500 price tag and 16 GB internal memory. For comparison Omnia 7 has the same preorder price and the miserable 8 GB.
How they imagine competing with all of the marvellous Android phones that are coming and even with the iPhone? Or they just experimenting with the new platform...
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I have noticed this with Samsung time and time again, They place a great screen on this phone then use a poor camera, and skimp on memory. But still want top dollar for there product.
I understand the sound quality is poor compared to HTC phones as well.
It is a huge over-site not having a larger capacity for the memory, The manufactures are to blame here where are the 32 GB and 64 GB versions.
It almost feels as if the manufactures want this product to fail.
I hope they bring larger sizes soon.

[Q] How many people wanted removable storage on a Galaxy Nexus?

Like the title says, I'm curious to see how many people actually wanted this function. I was a bit disappointed when I heard about the lack of removable memory, but I lust after this phone. I do have a 16GB card that's near capacity. I haven't cleaned it out in a while, so I'll do that first. Hopefully 16GB will be enough for me. But I digress, this isn't a rant about how the Galaxy Nexus doesn't have removable memory. This thread is more about seeing the percentage of people who did want this function.

I did want it, just like I wanted it on the NS. But I understand that I don't NEED removable storage and will be buying the GN the first chance I get. And given the choice, I'll probably go with a 16GB version, because I still have about 4GB of free space on my NS.

I really wanted an sdcard slot on it. I will have to import the phone as the 32GB versions as there seems to be no current plans to sell that version in Sweden according to Samsung themselves. 32GB is minimum for me. I had hoped to be able to get a 32 GB version and then plug in my 32 GB microsd for even more storage.

Wanted it, but mostly because i got a 32GB MicroSD card already
All of my storage is wasted on nandroids anyway.

The lack of the card slot (which even my Nexus One has) is a real shame - it would only have cost a few pence to include a card slot unless there is something I have missed. The slot would have been preferred to the barometer by the vast majority of people - if we had to choose one or the other.

If they were releasing the 32GB in the UK i wouldn't have wanted an SD slot as that would be enough for me. But as we're only getting the 16GB for whatever reason i would want an SD.
As they're not doing either i'll have to stay with my GS2.

i know i'm having issues with my card slot and/or SD card on my Fascinate. It'll say my SD card is ejected when it's not. I'm starting to think the omission of a card slot isn't so bad.. less moving parts = less things to break? lol

Not too bothered about it at all, never take my card out of the current phone.
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dragonzsoul said:
less moving parts = less things to break
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Exactly!
I was a little upset about no SD at first, but then realized that I haven't taken the card out of my N1 since I first got the phone and used it to transfer stuff to the new phone...easy enough to do with a USB and 5 minutes.

Only thing that bums me out is I basically can't get the 16GB because if I run out of space I'm hosed.

SomeGuyDude said:
Only thing that bums me out is I basically can't get the 16GB because if I run out of space I'm hosed.
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Use the cloud... everyones doing it heh.

Besides stuff that needs to be on the phone, almost everything (music, docs, photos) are in the cloud for me.
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fdm1 said:
Exactly!
I was a little upset about no SD at first, but then realized that I haven't taken the card out of my N1 since I first got the phone and used it to transfer stuff to the new phone...easy enough to do with a USB and 5 minutes.
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You are totally missing the point of the sdcard slot. The biggest advantage is being able to upgrade the amount of storage if you need it. The fact that it costs next to nothing now makes it even better. Also, a less used upside is the ability to read it even if your phone stops turning on at all.
To me, the best solution would be to have lots of internal storage but still have the option of an sdcard for extra storage for movies, lossless audio and other big files if the user wanted. I would be totally fine with it being used entirely for user storage. Any form of cache files that are currently stored on the sdcard probably belongs on the internal memory.

blunden said:
You are totally missing the point of the sdcard slot. The biggest advantage is being able to upgrade the amount of storage if you need it. The fact that it costs next to nothing now makes it even better. Also, a less used upside is the ability to read it even if your phone stops turning on at all.
To me, the best solution would be to have lots of internal storage but still have the option of an sdcard for extra storage for movies, lossless audio and other big files if the user wanted. I would be totally fine with it being used entirely for user storage. Any form of cache files that are currently stored on the sdcard probably belongs on the internal memory.
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Well you got a small screen so movies shouldnt be large in size and phones probably aren't the best devices to playback lossless audio to make a difference audibly.
I'm pro SD card though but really you just slap a large one in there and forget about it. I do use it as a quick medium to transfer custom roms and kernels to my buddies... pictures to my gf... etc. Seemed transfers were faster directly using the SD card vs going through the phone... but with the cloud and wireless transfer methods, its a mute point.
Most stuff can be in the cloud such as pictures and music and even nandroid backups (only need a few locally). I keep games/apps/wallpapers locally but those could even go to the cloud. As long as I can download them when I need them. And you don't need to have a whole movie collection on you at all times. Just a few throwbacks for travels.
My collection spans since my nexus one and its maybe 4-5gb minus music
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV

i got a good collection of 32GB that i parked since i got stuck with Nexus S, i was really hoping GN would have the SD slot
and just purchased a 64GB microSD, with no where to use it on the GN

what am I going to do with my class 10 MicroSD?

I did want it. But I guess its cool that they're selling a 32gb version, just hope it's not an outrageous price. But I've never modded a phone without removable storage before. Either way, I'm buying on launch day.ill be importing from the UK since T-Mobile hasn't said a peep about it and I don't feel like waiting another month or two or three
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still hope
Ummm my xoom has usb host with honeycomb , I'm guessing its in ics as well?.. just POP that micro sd into a usb adapter when needed if true

i dont care about SD suport.

streets814 said:
Ummm my xoom has usb host with honeycomb , I'm guessing its in ics as well?.. just POP that micro sd into a usb adapter when needed if true
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USB host in ICS is confirmed by google and many review on the net

need advice !!

i am planning to buy the SGS4 mini but what about the internal storage ??? does is well be a problem for installing apps ?? and the camera is it good ??

Best phone i have had, especially for its price too!!..plenty of storage (i have over a thousand mp3s atm :thumbup: .sharp camera images..i find it very fast when browsing etc
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I wouldn't say plenty... camera is okay.

I have exactly the same amount of storage I had before with my S1,
which was released in 2010, so I dont feel "plenty"...
But the phone in fact is really nice, fast, stable and comes almost without annoying bugs.
The camera is really good, too, especially with sunny-day-outside videos.

remove my post from this [email protected]?hit please..tired of seeing people moan about space lol..i think its fine.. haters!! its like they never heard of micro sd :banghead: smh
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Since I knew of the storage capacity and bought the phone nevertheless, Im certainly not a hater.
There are people out there, who use their phone differently than you do,
just think of someone - like me - who wants to listen to .flac-files.
At almost one gb per album, even with a 64gb microsd, space isnt in fact plenty.
But still, to most users, storage seems to be sufficient. Just saying, it could be more...

bigscoobz said:
remove my post from this [email protected]?hit please..tired of seeing people moan about space lol..i think its fine.. haters!! its like they never heard of micro sd :banghead: smh
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actually the memory cannot be problem for me like u said i can use micro sd
but the camera is more important cause i love photography and the price tag for another phones like s4 is so high (i have to buy the phone unlocked)

I think this phone has decent storage and expandable with 64gb sdcard
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Since I knew of the storage capacity and bought the phone nevertheless, Im certainly not a hater.
There are people out there, who use their phone differently than you do,
just think of someone - like me - who wants to listen to .flac-files.
At almost one gb per album, even with a 64gb microsd, space isnt in fact plenty.
But still, to most users, storage seems to be sufficient. Just saying, it could be more...
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Personally I don't like to listen flacs on the phone and with this one you can't use a dac
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kilouhm said:
i am planning to buy the SGS4 mini but what about the internal storage ??? does is well be a problem for installing apps ?? and the camera is it good ??
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I personaly like this phone a lot. I like it before it was even anounced as I was in a need to change my old phone to a new one but found out that the 5" flagman phones are too big for my liking always liked small phones and even Laptops if that matter after all the phone is something you carry everyday. So when the SGS4 mini was introduced I know that this was my phone I especially like the 8 mps camera which I already know form SII and S3 and love. However I`m not much of a photograph myself so even with this beatuiful camera I can`t take great photos but it`s ok.
What about daily use the Dual-Core CPU is fast enough to handle normal workload like browsing ocational Facebook activities etc. The 1.5 GB of Ram could and make all the difference in multi-tasking and is great that you know that whatever you do you wouldn`t run out of RAM.
I think the most anouing issues with this phone are the internal storage in my case (I-9195) it`s only 5GB which is really small as I play games mostly Fifa 14 and the phone has only 1.4GB internal storrage free after the fifa install. So if you plan to play games the internal storage is not big enough or I suggest you to find a phone with the 16GB internal. The other anouing issue is the battery life the phone hardly manage to give me whole day of intensive usage which isn`t good at all. However in normal usage it surely could last 2 days.
So to put it simple the phone is fast and the size is great however the internal storrage is less then needed and the battery life is poor.

What next after the Note 4?

I'm finally getting to the point where I'm tired of not having root and might bite the bullet and spend the couple hundred to early upgrade to another device and I'm kinda out of the loop on what's what now. Maybe you guys have some input? I used to only use the upper-end Samsung phones, but since I'm on Verizon now it's not looking so good (at least with the Note 4). What top-end phone is out there for Verizon that can be rooted and has an external card slot?

Can't speak to if it can be rooted or not but this is what I am going with.

I went with the Nexus 5x. Good price, quick updates, unlocked bootloader, compatible with every US carrier, and more available pocket space. It's a step down in some aspects, but as a hypochondriac, I really shouldn't have access to a pulse oximeter in the first place lol.

well not willing to spend $500+ for a Verizon bloat boat phone, I'm looking at the nexus 5x, nexus 6p, Moto x pure and OnePlus2. All of them will settle my flashing addiction. 6P is a little pricey so I may go with one plus 2. $389 for 64GB version. The only beef I have is it isnt AMOLED.

Ive been looking at getting a nexus 6p, because i really like the screen size of my note 4. Sucks it cannot accept sd cards, and the battery cannot be removed, but with an option of 128mb built in, and how well the internal battery performs on it, it throws those issues out the window for me.

Looks like the Nexus 6P in 128gb would be the most interesting out of those mentioned. It just sucks that with the improvement of the technology, there has to be compromise. Maybe the external memory option is getting dropped because it's getting unused from all the online/cloud services now? I just can't imagine not having ample storage space for NAND backups, app backups, alternate ROMs, etc... And then moving things back and forth to memory. Sure wireless ac is nice, but what about some damn USB 3.0? *sigh*

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Looks like the Nexus 6P in 128gb would be the most interesting out of those mentioned. It just sucks that with the improvement of the technology, there has to be compromise. Maybe the external memory option is getting dropped because it's getting unused from all the online/cloud services now? I just can't imagine not having ample storage space for NAND backups, app backups, alternate ROMs, etc... And then moving things back and forth to memory. Sure wireless ac is nice, but what about some damn USB 3.0? *sigh*
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Well I think a big reason is for the deletion of microSD is room in the phone. They strive for thinner phones with more features. With the online\ cloud space really why do you need a micro sd? You can store the important things on the internal memory and things you don't need to access all the time on the cloud. SD cards are only another thing to go wrong with the phone.
Check out the Elephone phone. It has a SDcard slot. Down side is it has a MediaTek CPU which may hinder custom ROMs.

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Well I think a big reason is for the deletion of microSD is room in the phone. They strive for thinner phones with more features. With the online\ cloud space really why do you need a micro sd? You can store the important things on the internal memory and things you don't need to access all the time on the cloud. SD cards are only another thing to go wrong with the phone.
Check out the Elephone phone. It has a SDcard slot. Down side is it has a MediaTek CPU which may hinder custom ROMs.
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I agree, it is another thing that can go wrong with the phone, and I've had plenty of issues with them. It might just be more of an issue of want versus need and what I'm comfortable with. My downtime isn't always places with a good connection to the internet, so the storage space is a lifesaver. I do have one of those thumb drives that has a micro usb port on it, so that might just live in my pocket or something instead.

moto x pure is pretty sweet. keeping my note as a backup though.
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I just ordered a 6P. I'll be keeping this as a backup for sure. I really love this hardware, but I'm getting tired of the issues 5.0.1 carries.
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