Hey all XDA members
Im sorry to ask any of you this but please help me !!
I had no problems rooting my phone with unrevoked and just left it at that but knowing me i downloaded a app on android market place called... ROM MANAGER - clockworkmod or whatever .. it seemed ok i went to backup my phone to my sd card and it said i had 897mb of storage left ... so i thought great ill back it up now so i wont brick my phone and if i ever did i could back up it said it finished succesfully or what not turns off my phone then every time it boots i get telstra next G boot logo then after abit it re F$#cking starts.. excuse my french i can access recovery menu and even clockworksmod recovery tryed formating the cache and everything
ATM im paying for a brick per month and it just seems so easy to fix but im obviously mistaken .. I really dont know what to do i wanna send it to htc but dont know how they would respond if they found clockworkmod in the recovery menu I dont even care if i have to pay them just so i can get my desire back ...
FAQS that ive learnt about this issue so far
#1 it makes a bootloop because i didnt have enough storage on my sd card so im puting the blame atm with the guys at clockmod for not giving users a clear warning that if you dont have enough memorey it will cause a boot loop ... and they make you pay for the app ... go figure >.>
There is no one to blame but you, you should know what you are doing with a rooted phone. Also your paying argument is stupid, who pays for a app you don't know before trying the free alternative?
Now to your problem:
Pull the battery.
Hold VolDown+POWER.
Go to recovery.
Go to backup and restore.
Restore.
Find the file of your backup. (either a data and time or a name you gave)
Click it.
Wait till it's done.
Reboot system now.
In recovery use the trackpad to navigate and confirm and in hboot, i think, volume up and down to navigate and power to confirm.
If there is no backup file at step 6, wipe dalvik cache under advanced (also in recovery), reboot and see if that fixed it. If not do a full wipe in recovery, data/factory reset, cache and dalvik cache under advanced. Keep in mind this will wipe everything of your phone. Sd card is not affected.
Thanks for the reply first off i know its my fault i program computers for a living and find it quite frustrating when i cant get a linux based phone to boot..
also to recovering the backup in clocksworkmod ... it didnt work, but it is probably corrupted from not being able to do a full backup of my phone.... if you or anyone else here who has a back on a htc desire please feel free to send me it
also to factory restore, formating cache still a no go im starting to lose hope already the phone hardware sense it fine its just the operating system thats bonkers
and finally i can understand you defending clocksmod and they have done a very good job but maybe next time they should warn us about this big bug thats in the backup process because this little piece of software has proberly bricked my phone from a tiny bug in the software
Well almost 900Mb is enough to back up your entire phone, unless you have a massif ext partition. So I doubt that is the problem but whatever.
If both the above steps didn't work (and you also clear dalvik cache) I suggest you just install a custom rom. If you don't know what you want or where to start, I suggest you start with Leedroid. If you have a ext partition on your sd card use the A2SD version, if you don't use NoA2SD version.
To install:
Download the rom.
Boot in to recovery.
Connect the phone to the pc.
Go to mounts and mount the sd as mass storage (or whatever it's called, should be the last option in the list if I remember correct)
Copy the rom to the sd. (not in any folder, just on the sd card)
Safely remove and unmount again.
Wipe data/factory rest, cache and dalvik again just to be sure.
Go to install zip form sd.
Chose zip form sd
Find the zip you just transferred and flash it.
Wait till it's done.
Reboot system. (this can take up to 10 minutes)
This should give you a booting phone again.
TheGhost1233 said:
Well almost 900Mb is enough to back up your entire phone, unless you have a massif ext partition. So I doubt that is the problem but whatever.
If both the above steps didn't work (and you also clear dalvik cache) I suggest you just install a custom rom. If you don't know what you want or where to start, I suggest you start with Leedroid. If you have a ext partition on your sd card use the A2SD version, if you don't use NoA2SD version.
To install:
Download the rom.
Boot in to recovery.
Connect the phone to the pc.
Go to mounts and mount the sd as mass storage (or whatever it's called, should be the last option in the list if I remember correct)
Copy the rom to the sd. (not in any folder, just on the sd card)
Safely remove and unmount again.
Wipe data/factory rest, cache and dalvik again just to be sure.
Go to install zip form sd.
Chose zip form sd
Find the zip you just transferred and flash it.
Wait till it's done.
Reboot system. (this can take up to 10 minutes)
This should give you a booting phone again.
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Thanks again for the fantasitic help I will get right on it.. havent got much to lose now haha sorry for the late reply I was called to work I will post a video here to show some what the issue is before i install a custom rom thanks again
Oh and do you have paypal cause if it works i will pay you 20-50 or somthing LOl
Just tried to install the steel blue theme for cm 7.0 on my desire and i wiped cache then flashed from the sd rebooted and there was 'android' in silver writing for about 4 mins and then the screen just went black (and still is with just the orange charging light on and it doesnt do anything when i hold in the power button).
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After clearing cache and factory reset in recovery and then rebooting im now in a constant boot loop. Wtf can I do?
Can someone PLEASE respond
Reflash your rom.
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TheGhost1233 said:
Reflash your rom.
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How?
I used ROM manager to flash the original rom so don't have one on the SD
ScRiVs said:
How?
I used ROM manager to flash the original rom so don't have one on the SD
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Reboot into recovery mode. Then Click on install zip from SD Card. Browse SD card and find the Clockworkmod folder click on that then you should see a zip file called recovery update. Click on it and let it flash the file. Once you it finishes it should take you back to recovery menu. If you downloaded the ROM it should be on your SD card. If not scroll thrpyfg menu and click on mounts. mount your device as a usb connect your computer transfer your ROM from your PC to your SD card and install.
Hope this works for you. If not post the ROM you're having issues with and what results are after trying steps above and I'll try to wall you through alternative.
Go into recovery and wipe everything....click on mounts and storage and format everything starting from boot,wipe cash partition,wipe dalvik cash,wipe...wipe wipe n double wipe...reboot recovery,mount the sd card and usb and start again
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Reboot into recovery mode. Then Click on install zip from SD Card. Browse SD card and find the Clockworkmod folder click on that then you should see a zip file called recovery update. Click on it and let it flash the file. Once you it finishes it should take you back to recovery menu. If you downloaded the ROM it should be on your SD card. If not scroll thrpyfg menu and click on mounts. mount your device as a usb connect your computer transfer your ROM from your PC to your SD card and install.
Hope this works for you. If not post the ROM you're having issues with and what results are after trying steps above and I'll try to wall you through alternative.
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Mounted to computer through recovery as u said downloaded Leedroid because the rom i had was not on the sd card and it looks like it's STILL in the boot loop coz i clicked reboot after it flashed and now it's making an r2d2 noise and showing a loading screen then playing the noise and doing the same over and over again?
WTF?!?!?!?!
If you flashed a different rom you need to do a full wipe (data/factory reset and cache).
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If you flashed a different rom you need to do a full wipe (data/factory reset and cache).
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Thanks!
Although won't be sticking with leedroid as it doesn't seem customizable at all
ScRiVs said:
Thanks!
Although won't be sticking with leedroid as it doesn't seem customizable at all
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I beg to differ but you are entitled to your opinion. However, just to give you some insight, Leedroid is one of the more respected and hardworking developers. His updates are not weekly because he provides stable and highly reliable ROMs. Remember your problem existed prior to trying to flash Leedroid's ROM.
Now more likely than not there was a user error in the process. Did you format your SD Card FAT 32 with EXT3 partition? Do you have the update.zip on the ROOT of your SD Card if not Leedroid provides a link to the CWM update.zip file.
Did you unmount the device in recovery and did you properly remove device from PC (if using Windows unplugging the device without properly removing/ejecting will cause bad data blocks/errors on the SD Card).
And of course did you wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache before flashing Leedroid's rom? If you did all of these things the only other issue that you may be experiencing is that you must have USB Debugging enabled on the device.
Leedroid provide exception support for his ROMs and he also updates his threads in answering general questions and troubleshooting if any one is experiencing issues after flashing his ROM.
hallo al ,
i need really help here please. since today my desire is not working anymore.
what is the problem??
my recovery is working(recovery-clockwork-2.5.0.7-bravo) ,so i can flash any custom roms . after flashing a custome rom. installed compleet (without issue), or error lines. oky.
here is the big problem... when the rom begin to start (1 seconde) my desire reboot (joker face alpharev) and rebooting and rebooting .
i dont know what to do. acces to bootloader is working and fastboot to. and i tried all my sdcards to 4gb,8,32. all same problem.
everything is working but roms dont starting anymore......
mildwild roms .v4.9.1 and v5.
sorry about my english
Thank you in advance!
Have u partitionated your Sd Card? you know most custom roms need Ext3 or ext4 partition..
cabasse_tronic said:
Have u partitionated your Sd Card? you know most custom roms need Ext3 or ext4 partition..
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yes of course 512 mb a2sd and 32 mb Swap Size created with recovery-clockwork-touch-5.8.0.2-bravo
any help please?? what should i do? everything working (except roms)
Firstly you should connect it to the PC when its in recovery, and open the command prompt then run "adb logcat" as soon as you click reboot. It might say, "-waiting for device-" but just wait try and see what the problem is... if you dont know much about it, then just save the logcat and post it here.
otherwise:
you are doing a full wipe with each rom change?
have you tried re-partitioning the SD card BY DELETING THE FAT32 PARTITION AS WELL - corrupt partition could cause problems.
or you could try using a different ROM If I have problems I always try, a full wipe, format sd card / ext/ system / data then start installing Ginger Villian as in my experience I found it's extremely stable and reliable.
im using mildwild and iv NO swap size and my phone works fine. try different recovery (4ext) coz CWM iv heard sometimes makes bad partitions which also could be the problem
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here is my logcat
fresh install mildwild V5.0
recovery-clockwork-touch-5.8.0.2-bravo
maybe i did something wrong, and the log is not compleet. so let my know plz
yes already did it,
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Firstly you should connect it to the PC when its in recovery, and open the command prompt then run "adb logcat" as soon as you click reboot. It might say, "-waiting for device-" but just wait try and see what the problem is... if you dont know much about it, then just save the logcat and post it here.
otherwise:
you are doing a full wipe with each rom change?
have you tried re-partitioning the SD card BY DELETING THE FAT32 PARTITION AS WELL - corrupt partition could cause problems.
or you could try using a different ROM If I have problems I always try, a full wipe, format sd card / ext/ system / data then start installing Ginger Villian as in my experience I found it's extremely stable and reliable.
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allways fullwipe
already re-partitioning my SD-card
Ginger Villian is a perfect rom, but my problem is , roms not starting
I'm no dev but there are lots of worrying things in your logcat. failed mounting, no zipalign, no bootanimation, lots of bad permissions, etc etc.
I suspect that the install is not correctly performed. Some of the problems in the log just wouldn't happen if the install worked (like unable to locate bootanimation)
so heres a few things to try to cover all the bases:
do a fix permissions and reboot - its worth a shot
re-partition WITH GPARTED or 4EXT recovery. do not use CWM. as already stated it can cause problems. ensure you delete the fat partition too.
Download a ROM and check the the md5, I suggested GV for a reason
mattyyey said:
I'm no dev but there are lots of worrying things in your logcat. failed mounting, no zipalign, no bootanimation, lots of bad permissions, etc etc.
I suspect that the install is not correctly performed. Some of the problems in the log just wouldn't happen if the install worked (like unable to locate bootanimation)
so heres a few things to try to cover all the bases:
do a fix permissions and reboot - its worth a shot
re-partition WITH GPARTED or 4EXT recovery. do not use CWM. as already stated it can cause problems. ensure you delete the fat partition too.
Download a ROM and check the the md5, I suggested GV for a reason
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lool , i'm going buring this desire, oky i try GPARTED and fix permissions now
From the looks of it u r using stock hboot.if u r using mildwild I think ext partition of sd card is not immediately needed.I think recovery is the problem.change the recovery to 4ext and try.install the .img from adv and I think u will ne ok.
will formatting my sd card through the phones menu destroy anything to do with the phone being rooted? i know i will lose all my apps data etc but im not bothered about that all im bothered abotu is braking the rooted info etc
PhilLFC said:
will formatting my sd card through the phones menu destroy anything to do with the phone being rooted? i know i will lose all my apps data etc but im not bothered about that all im bothered abotu is braking the rooted info etc
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nope will not destroy your root account/info when you rooted your phone was modified files placed on internal flash memory (on phone) nothing about your sdcard -/boot and /system partitions usually are affected when rooting
yes you lose some apps moved to sdcard
ruscan.calin said:
nope will not destroy your root account/info when you rooted your phone was modified files placed on internal flash memory (on phone) nothing about your sdcard -/boot and /system partitions usually are affected when rooting
yes you lose some apps moved to sdcard
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thanks for the quick reply
going to format the sd before i run the Beta_0.15.0.1 update for my htc desire then try work out how to move all the apps caches etc to the sd card just been reading up its possible so need to try do it to save space on this htc desire.
thanks for the heads up
PhilLFC said:
thanks for the quick reply
going to format the sd before i run the Beta_0.15.0.1 update for my htc desire then try work out how to move all the apps caches etc to the sd card just been reading up its possible so need to try do it to save space on this htc desire.
thanks for the heads up
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well here I have to tell you something very important: not all apps are movable it depends of developer
also if you move cache/Dalvik-cache to sdcard take care don't format/remove sdcard because these cache files are in fact system files that's why you are entering a lot of trouble !
I mean you can move cache to sdcard but be sure :don't remove it and make a nandroid backup on sdcard before !
your phone is stuck at splashscreen if you remove/format sdcard in this case solution is to enter recovery mode wipe everything data/cache/Dalvik and flash a new ROM or restore nandroid backup!
in conclusion: now you have a stock rom on phone that's why cache is placed on phone memory so you can format sdcard but don't do the same after moving cache to sdcard -I wanted it to be very clear
also:
-do a nandroid backup before editing/modifying something (now you have root)
-never flash a rom if not sure that's made for your phone: possible hardware failure!
ruscan.calin said:
well here I have to tell you something very important: not all apps are movable it depends of developer
also if you move cache/Dalvik-cache to sdcard take care don't format/remove sdcard because these cache files are in fact system files that's why you are entering a lot of trouble !
I mean you can move cache to sdcard but be sure :don't remove it and make a nandroid backup on sdcard before !
your phone is stuck at splashscreen if you remove/format sdcard in this case solution is to enter recovery mode wipe everything data/cache/Dalvik and flash a new ROM or restore nandroid backup!
in conclusion: now you have a stock rom on phone that's why cache is placed on phone memory so you can format sdcard but don't do the same after moving cache to sdcard -I wanted it to be very clear
also:
-do a nandroid backup before editing/modifying something (now you have root)
-never flash a rom if not sure that's made for your phone: possible hardware failure!
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thanks for the extra update mate, i wont be formating it after this update anyway its just full of crap from when it wasnt rooted the thousands of apps i went through just want a clean sd before i update to the beta 15. im sure its safe to update as i got the update notification on my phone and on the site it links you too it says htc desire so just going to wipe it all clean then install that update along with the google apps package too thanks again for the help
PhilLFC said:
thanks for the extra update mate, i wont be formating it after this update anyway its just full of crap from when it wasnt rooted the thousands of apps i went through just want a clean sd before i update to the beta 15. im sure its safe to update as i got the update notification on my phone and on the site it links you too it says htc desire so just going to wipe it all clean then install that update along with the google apps package too thanks again for the help
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thanks for your feedback also I'm sure nothing bad about that update because it's about an official/tested update !
ruscan.calin said:
thanks for your feedback also I'm sure nothing bad about that update because it's about an official/tested update !
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all working good upgrade went well only 1 thing that isnt working though, when you press on frequent calls it doesnt ring them, will have to look up on this
Hi there,
I got a custom Rom installed on my HTC desire, but now a year later it's getting a bit slow .. I would like to re-install this rom (believe it was MildWild 8.0 ) but whats the best way to do this ?
Can i just make a 'factory reset' from the CWM recory menu ? Or should i wipe everything and flash the Rom again ? Or maybe some other option ?
Thanks in Advance.
try wipe cache and dalvik in recovery then reboot.
maybe help .
Mascarponi said:
Hi there,
I got a custom Rom installed on my HTC desire, but now a year later it's getting a bit slow .. I would like to re-install this rom (believe it was MildWild 8.0 ) but whats the best way to do this ?
Can i just make a 'factory reset' from the CWM recory menu ? Or should i wipe everything and flash the Rom again ? Or maybe some other option ?
Thanks in Advance.
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Try mildwild 14 based on redux2
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Mascarponi said:
Hi there,
I got a custom Rom installed on my HTC desire, but now a year later it's getting a bit slow .. I would like to re-install this rom (believe it was MildWild 8.0 ) but whats the best way to do this ?
Can i just make a 'factory reset' from the CWM recory menu ? Or should i wipe everything and flash the Rom again ? Or maybe some other option ?
Thanks in Advance.
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You should try to work out why it might be slow in the first place.
Are you using an sd partition for A2SD? How did you create the partition? Any other scripts?
If you want to simply reinstall the ROM, you can:
- make a nandroid backup just in case
- flash the ROM.zip straight over the top, no wipe
This may clean things a little on your /system partition, and you shouldn't lose your apps.
If you "wipe data / factory reset" within cwm, and do nothing afterwards, this will wipe the ROM and it will not boot as you won't have any OS.
You can reflash the ROM.zip after "wipe data / factory reset", this is simply a full wipe and reinstall from scratch. Make sure you have a nandroid, backed up your contacts to google, and a titanium backup of your apps etc before you try this.
conjro said:
try wipe cache and dalvik in recovery then reboot.
maybe help .
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Despite this being repeated millions of times in xda, it rarely ever actually solves anything. cache is just temporary files. dalvik is required for apps to function. after you wipe it, it simply rebuilds, which is why it takes so long to boot afterwards...
In other words don't bother wiping dalvik...save yourself the time.
Thanks for the help.
It's probably getting slow because I run most apps via A2SD .. Cant really remember how i created the partition back then, it's more than a year ago now...don't think i use other scripts.
I don't use this phone that much anymore, but i wanted to have a backup phone in case my newer one gets broken or something, therefore i wanted to do a clean install on this one.
So if i flash the ROM straight over this one, without wiping, i still got al my personal data on the phone ?
Does a Nandroid backup also backs up the apps ? Cause when i reinstall this backup it probably gets slow again right ?
Is there a way to backup only the system settings from the ROM, so that when i do a full wipe , reinstall the same ROM again, i can restore the changes i made in this ROM ?
Thanks.
eddiehk6 said:
You should try to work out why it might be slow in the first place.
Are you using an sd partition for A2SD? How did you create the partition? Any other scripts?
If you want to simply reinstall the ROM, you can:
- make a nandroid backup just in case
- flash the ROM.zip straight over the top, no wipe
This may clean things a little on your /system partition, and you shouldn't lose your apps.
If you "wipe data / factory reset" within cwm, and do nothing afterwards, this will wipe the ROM and it will not boot as you won't have any OS.
You can reflash the ROM.zip after "wipe data / factory reset", this is simply a full wipe and reinstall from scratch. Make sure you have a nandroid, backed up your contacts to google, and a titanium backup of your apps etc before you try this.
Despite this being repeated millions of times in xda, it rarely ever actually solves anything. cache is just temporary files. dalvik is required for apps to function. after you wipe it, it simply rebuilds, which is why it takes so long to boot afterwards...
In other words don't bother wiping dalvik...save yourself the time.
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Mascarponi said:
It's probably getting slow because I run most apps via A2SD
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You're supposed to run all your user installed apps via A2SD, that's why you rooted and partitioned your sd card in the first place. Otherwise you run out of space again
.. Cant really remember how i created the partition back then, it's more than a year ago now...don't think i use other scripts.
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If you can't remember how you did it, then there's a chance you did it wrongly. It should be done with 4EXT recovery or gparted only, not clockworkmod recovery or minitool partition wizard. You mention clockworkmod recovery, so I assume you are also still S-ON?
So if i flash the ROM straight over this one, without wiping, i still got al my personal data on the phone ?
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Yes, but make a nandroid backup first just in case
Does a Nandroid backup also backs up the apps ? Cause when i reinstall this backup it probably gets slow again right ?
Is there a way to backup only the system settings from the ROM, so that when i do a full wipe , reinstall the same ROM again, i can restore the changes i made in this ROM ?
Thanks.
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To be honest, these are kind of basics you should know before you try anything with your phone A nandroid backup is a backup of everything. When you restore it, it should be exactly the same: apps, settings, texts, home screens etc.
You should be making a nandroid backup before you wipe / install anything unless you know exactly what you're doing, as it is a safe point to restore to if anything goes wrong. You can even move them off your sdcard to PC or cloud storage to save space and for safekeeping (normally stored in the /clockworkmod folder)
You can backup anything you like with apps like Titanium Backup. It is best used for your normal apps and app data. You can backup and restore /system apps and data, but this is very risky and I don't recommend it.
Personally I would recommend a full wipe and restore, setting everything up properly from the start as it should have been done in the first place. I'm assuming you're still S-ON:
- Install Titanium Backup, backup all your user apps and data (not system apps)
- Make sure your contacts are backed up to your Google account, backup SMS if you need to with another app
- Backup your whole sdcard to PC
- S-OFF with revolutionary
- Flash cm7r2 hboot using fastboot, this will optimise your actual internal memory more efficiently.
- Flash 4EXT recovery using fastboot
- Reformat your sdcard in 4EXT, partition with maximum 2GB ext4 partition, no swap
- Copy your sd card backup back
- Full wipe (wipe all partitions except sdcard)
- Flash ROM.zip
- Restore user apps + data with Titanium
Hey Eddie,
Thanks for you answer, really appreciate it.
I installed the custom rom on my phone more than a year ago, and back then i was really into it, now most of the details i forgot..
But it's S-OFF for sure, and i installed HBOOT also..i can't really remember how i formatted the SD card, is there a way to find that out ?
I will probably just install the same rom again, but first do a full wipe like you advised. Then it probably will work as smooth as it did in the beginning when i installed this ROM for the first time..
Do i need to reformat the SD-card again then, or is only a wipe enough?
Also, when installing apps, i now move them to SD card via the 'apps' menu -> move to SD , is that the right way to do it ? Or is there some other method ?
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You're supposed to run all your user installed apps via A2SD, that's why you rooted and partitioned your sd card in the first place. Otherwise you run out of space again
If you can't remember how you did it, then there's a chance you did it wrongly. It should be done with 4EXT recovery or gparted only, not clockworkmod recovery or minitool partition wizard. You mention clockworkmod recovery, so I assume you are also still S-ON?
Yes, but make a nandroid backup first just in case
To be honest, these are kind of basics you should know before you try anything with your phone A nandroid backup is a backup of everything. When you restore it, it should be exactly the same: apps, settings, texts, home screens etc.
You should be making a nandroid backup before you wipe / install anything unless you know exactly what you're doing, as it is a safe point to restore to if anything goes wrong. You can even move them off your sdcard to PC or cloud storage to save space and for safekeeping (normally stored in the /clockworkmod folder)
You can backup anything you like with apps like Titanium Backup. It is best used for your normal apps and app data. You can backup and restore /system apps and data, but this is very risky and I don't recommend it.
Personally I would recommend a full wipe and restore, setting everything up properly from the start as it should have been done in the first place. I'm assuming you're still S-ON:
- Install Titanium Backup, backup all your user apps and data (not system apps)
- Make sure your contacts are backed up to your Google account, backup SMS if you need to with another app
- Backup your whole sdcard to PC
- S-OFF with revolutionary
- Flash cm7r2 hboot using fastboot, this will optimise your actual internal memory more efficiently.
- Flash 4EXT recovery using fastboot
- Reformat your sdcard in 4EXT, partition with maximum 2GB ext4 partition, no swap
- Copy your sd card backup back
- Full wipe (wipe all partitions except sdcard)
- Flash ROM.zip
- Restore user apps + data with Titanium
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Mascarponi said:
Hey Eddie,
Thanks for you answer, really appreciate it.
I installed the custom rom on my phone more than a year ago, and back then i was really into it, now most of the details i forgot..
But it's S-OFF for sure, and i installed HBOOT also..i can't really remember how i formatted the SD card, is there a way to find that out ?
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S-OFF means you unlocked the bootloader, it's a good start but nothing more. Explain 'installed HBOOT', did you already actually flash a different hboot? Write what is says on top of your bootloader screen. If it just says 'Alpharev', means you are actually still on stock hboot.
Like I said, if you can't remember how you partitioned your sdcard, you may have done it wrongly. Please reformat it from scratch as advised.
I will probably just install the same rom again, but first do a full wipe like you advised. Then it probably will work as smooth as it did in the beginning when i installed this ROM for the first time..
Do i need to reformat the SD-card again then, or is only a wipe enough?
Also, when installing apps, i now move them to SD card via the 'apps' menu -> move to SD , is that the right way to do it ? Or is there some other method ?
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Reformat your sdcard from the start, do it the right way so you know you've done it the right way, rather than be uncertain...then follow instructions as above.
Roms like Mildwild have A2SD built in, you only need to keep apps on 'internal' to trick them to your sd-ext partition. 'Move to SD' is redundant, and moves part of the app to the FAT32 partition of your sd card. A2SD moves all of the app apk (and dalvik cache if you choose to), to the sd-ext which is where you want.
Other ROMs you need to activate A2SD manually, read the first post. Same rule still applies, don't use 'Move to SD', because if you do, you are not actually using your sd-ext partition...
Some ROMs like MildWild are also better installed on smaller hboots like cm7r2 to use your internal memory more efficiently (stock hboot is wasteful). Again instructions should be given in the first post of each ROM.
eddiehk6 said:
S-OFF means you unlocked the bootloader, it's a good start but nothing more. Explain 'installed HBOOT', did you already actually flash a different hboot? Write what is says on top of your bootloader screen. If it just says 'Alpharev', means you are actually still on stock hboot.
Like I said, if you can't remember how you partitioned your sdcard, you may have done it wrongly. Please reformat it from scratch as advised.
Reformat your sdcard from the start, do it the right way so you know you've done it the right way, rather than be uncertain...then follow instructions as above.
Roms like Mildwild have A2SD built in, you only need to keep apps on 'internal' to trick them to your sd-ext partition. 'Move to SD' is redundant, and moves part of the app to the FAT32 partition of your sd card. A2SD moves all of the app apk (and dalvik cache if you choose to), to the sd-ext which is where you want.
Other ROMs you need to activate A2SD manually, read the first post. Same rule still applies, don't use 'Move to SD', because if you do, you are not actually using your sd-ext partition...
Some ROMs like MildWild are also better installed on smaller hboots like cm7r2 to use your internal memory more efficiently (stock hboot is wasteful). Again instructions should be given in the first post of each ROM.
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When i boot up in bootloader it says:
- revolutionary -
S-off
Hboot-6.93.1002
Radio etc..
Repartitioning is probably not necassery because i already think i did, but maybe do it again then..
A2SD:
This is what i did wrong all the time..i moved them to SD card via 'apps' in settings'..maybe this is why it got a little slower by time.
However i cant find any app called A2SD or is this a script that runs automatically ?
When i check the app 'freespace' it says : internal, microSD, Sd-ext, system.
thanks
Mascarponi said:
When i boot up in bootloader it says:
- revolutionary -
S-off
Hboot-6.93.1002
Radio etc..
Repartitioning is probably not necassery because i already think i did, but maybe do it again then..
A2SD:
This is what i did wrong all the time..i moved them to SD card via 'apps' in settings'..maybe this is why it got a little slower by time.
However i cant find any app called A2SD or is this a script that runs automatically ?
When i check the app 'freespace' it says : internal, microSD, Sd-ext, system.
thanks
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Its a script so if your apps are on internal it will automatically trick them to move them to your sd ext which is the partition you have made which is 1gb recommended...
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Mascarponi said:
When i boot up in bootloader it says:
- revolutionary -
S-off
Hboot-6.93.1002
Radio etc..
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This means you are still on stock hboot.
If you are on Mildwild ROM, you are wasting space
Repartitioning is probably not necassery because i already think i did, but maybe do it again then..
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No, for the third time...
You think you already did it, and you have no idea how you did it...
Therefore: it is most likely is that you haven't done it, or you 've done it incorrectly.
If you've done it using clockworkmod recovery or minitool, they make bad partitions. It could be the exact reason you're having these slowdowns in the first place
You should do it with 4EXT recovery or gparted ONLY, nothing else. If neither sound familiar, then this increases your chances further that you have partitioned incorrectly...
A2SD:
This is what i did wrong all the time..i moved them to SD card via 'apps' in settings'..maybe this is why it got a little slower by time.
However i cant find any app called A2SD or is this a script that runs automatically ?
When i check the app 'freespace' it says : internal, microSD, Sd-ext, system.
thanks
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Like I said, Mildwild ROMs have A2SD built in, it's not an app...
Have a look again at freespace. You see all that free empty space on your /system partition? This is completely wasted redundant space.
You have exactly the same internal memory layout as before you rooted / S-OFF. With S-OFF you can change your actual internal memory layout by flashing a different hboot, see alpharev.nl.
By flashing a different hboot, you reduce your /system and /cache size -> and therefore increase your /data size (internal memory) = more space for apps :good: This is probably why you rooted in the first place...
So I believe you have narrowed it down to two choices:
- Keep full wiping...and never understand what you're doing...
- Follow the instructions and try to learn what you're doing and how your memory is actually being used Set everything up from scratch. It is the only way to guarantee you have a proper setup.
Up to you
Listen to eddie
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2125513
eddiehk6 said:
This means you are still on stock hboot.
If you are on Mildwild ROM, you are wasting space
No, for the third time...
You think you already did it, and you have no idea how you did it...
Therefore: it is most likely is that you haven't done it, or you 've done it incorrectly.
If you've done it using clockworkmod recovery or minitool, they make bad partitions. It could be the exact reason you're having these slowdowns in the first place
You should do it with 4EXT recovery or gparted ONLY, nothing else. If neither sound familiar, then this increases your chances further that you have partitioned incorrectly...
Like I said, Mildwild ROMs have A2SD built in, it's not an app...
Have a look again at freespace. You see all that free empty space on your /system partition? This is completely wasted redundant space.
You have exactly the same internal memory layout as before you rooted / S-OFF. With S-OFF you can change your actual internal memory layout by flashing a different hboot, see alpharev.nl.
By flashing a different hboot, you reduce your /system and /cache size -> and therefore increase your /data size (internal memory) = more space for apps :good: This is probably why you rooted in the first place...
So I believe you have narrowed it down to two choices:
- Keep full wiping...and never understand what you're doing...
- Follow the instructions and try to learn what you're doing and how your memory is actually being used Set everything up from scratch. It is the only way to guarantee you have a proper setup.
Up to you
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Ok Eddie, you got me convinced
Will follow your instructions , do a full whipe, re-partition it and perform a clean install like you mentioned in a couple of posts earlier .. thanks !
eddiehk6 said:
You're supposed to run all your user installed apps via A2SD, that's why you rooted and partitioned your sd card in the first place. Otherwise you run out of space again
Personally I would recommend a full wipe and restore, setting everything up properly from the start as it should have been done in the first place. I'm assuming you're still S-ON:
- Install Titanium Backup, backup all your user apps and data (not system apps)
- Make sure your contacts are backed up to your Google account, backup SMS if you need to with another app
- Backup your whole sdcard to PC
- S-OFF with revolutionary
- Flash cm7r2 hboot using fastboot, this will optimise your actual internal memory more efficiently.
- Flash 4EXT recovery using fastboot
- Reformat your sdcard in 4EXT, partition with maximum 2GB ext4 partition, no swap
- Copy your sd card backup back
- Full wipe (wipe all partitions except sdcard)
- Flash ROM.zip
- Restore user apps + data with Titanium
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Hi Eddy,
Finally I got the time to set up everything properly on my (new) Htc Desire, cause i lost my old one
Here is what i've done so far:
- Got it Rooted via the method advised here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1275632
- Then I S-Offed with Revolutionary script, and installed CWM 5.0.2.0 .. not really what you advised me but i wanted to test if it was working, cause i had this recovery on my old phone also.
- Then I flashed cm7r2 hboot using Android Flasher. Could not get it to work via CMD->Fastboot on windows.
- Now i end up with a boot loop, only giving me the white HTC screen. When booting up in Hboot, it says:
AlphaRev CM7 r2
S-Off
HBoot-6.93.1002
I can enter CWM recovery, but it gives me some errors like 'E: Can't open /cache/recovery/log
And like i said: booting normally it ends up in a bootloop.
Did i do anything wrong, and what s the best way to move on now ?
Thanks in advance.
Mascarponi said:
Hi Eddy,
Finally I got the time to set up everything properly on my (new) Htc Desire, cause i lost my old one
Here is what i've done so far:
- Got it Rooted via the method advised here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1275632
- Then I S-Offed with Revolutionary script, and installed CWM 5.0.2.0 .. not really what you advised me but i wanted to test if it was working, cause i had this recovery on my old phone also.
- Then I flashed cm7r2 hboot using Android Flasher. Could not get it to work via CMD->Fastboot on windows.
- Now i end up with a boot loop, only giving me the white HTC screen. When booting up in Hboot, it says:
AlphaRev CM7 r2
S-Off
HBoot-6.93.1002
I can enter CWM recovery, but it gives me some errors like 'E: Can't open /cache/recovery/log
And like i said: booting normally it ends up in a bootloop.
Did i do anything wrong, and what s the best way to move on now ?
Thanks in advance.
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When u change hboot u have perform full wipe then reflash rom or restore nandroid backup. So in recovery wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache, go to advanced and wipe dalvik cache then reboot recovery then flash rom or restore nandroid backup if u have one.
Also ul prob need to partition ur sdcard for a2sd in roms so u must use 4ext recovery or gparted only. So again, flash 4ext recovery.
jmcclue said:
When u change hboot u have perform full wipe then reflash rom or restore nandroid backup. So in recovery wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache, go to advanced and wipe dalvik cache then reboot recovery then flash rom or restore nandroid backup if u have one.
Also ul prob need to partition ur sdcard for a2sd in roms so u must use 4ext recovery or gparted only. So again, flash 4ext recovery.
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Ok thats clear, thanks for your reply.
I'd like to install 4Ext recovery, but it seems installing this recovery is done a little different from other recoveries right ?
Cause on their website it's done via an app frome the market..
Should i install a new rom first, then install 4Ext recovery ? Or can i flash 4Ext recovery from a zipfile in clockworkmod recovery ?
Mascarponi said:
Ok thats clear, thanks for your reply.
I'd like to install 4Ext recovery, but it seems installing this recovery is done a little different from other recoveries right ?
Cause on their website it's done via an app frome the market..
Should i install a new rom first, then install 4Ext recovery ? Or can i flash 4Ext recovery from a zipfile in clockworkmod recovery ?
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Go to desire general and ul see a thread by me "4ext recovery as PB99IMG" download and extract the file and flash the recovery.img via fastboot commands then once u have a rom installed u can download the 4ext app and update the recovery to latest version.
jmcclue said:
Go to desire general and ul see a thread by me "4ext recovery as PB99IMG" download and extract the file and flash the recovery.img via fastboot commands then once u have a rom installed u can download the 4ext app and update the recovery to latest version.
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Thanks.
Installed it , and am trying to re-partition my SD-card (8 Gb) in the 4Ext recovery mode.
I followed this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2125513
Set 1st sd-ext partition to 2048 mb, skipped second, and skipped swap.
But then i get the message:
You new partiotion table would look like this:
Fat32: 5580 mb
SD-ext: 2048MB
Is that correct ? Shouldn't be all the memory on the SD-card partitioned to SD-ext ?
Mascarponi said:
Thanks.
Installed it , and am trying to re-partition my SD-card (8 Gb) in the 4Ext recovery mode.
I followed this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2125513
Set 1st sd-ext partition to 2048 mb, skipped second, and skipped swap.
But then i get the message:
You new partiotion table would look like this:
Fat32: 5580 mb
SD-ext: 2048MB
Is that correct ? Shouldn't be all the memory on the SD-card partitioned to SD-ext ?
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Yh that looks right.
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lilsafbig said:
Yh that looks right.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA Free mobile app
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Okay thanks.
I thought that the whole SD-card would be partitioned as 4ext.
Is it true that A2SD now only uses the 4Ext partition (2gb) to trick apps to ?
Anyway, i'm happy to have my desire now set-up properly, so thanks for your help
I tried 2 Mildwild roms already, but didn't find a way to encrypt SD-card within these roms , does anybody knows if that's possible somehow ?
Any suggestions for other (Mildwild) Roms ? (tried MildWild MW-14 and MildWild CM-8.0 JG Stable)
Thanks.