Hey all XDA members
Im sorry to ask any of you this but please help me !!
I had no problems rooting my phone with unrevoked and just left it at that but knowing me i downloaded a app on android market place called... ROM MANAGER - clockworkmod or whatever .. it seemed ok i went to backup my phone to my sd card and it said i had 897mb of storage left ... so i thought great ill back it up now so i wont brick my phone and if i ever did i could back up it said it finished succesfully or what not turns off my phone then every time it boots i get telstra next G boot logo then after abit it re F$#cking starts.. excuse my french i can access recovery menu and even clockworksmod recovery tryed formating the cache and everything
ATM im paying for a brick per month and it just seems so easy to fix but im obviously mistaken .. I really dont know what to do i wanna send it to htc but dont know how they would respond if they found clockworkmod in the recovery menu I dont even care if i have to pay them just so i can get my desire back ...
FAQS that ive learnt about this issue so far
#1 it makes a bootloop because i didnt have enough storage on my sd card so im puting the blame atm with the guys at clockmod for not giving users a clear warning that if you dont have enough memorey it will cause a boot loop ... and they make you pay for the app ... go figure >.>
There is no one to blame but you, you should know what you are doing with a rooted phone. Also your paying argument is stupid, who pays for a app you don't know before trying the free alternative?
Now to your problem:
Pull the battery.
Hold VolDown+POWER.
Go to recovery.
Go to backup and restore.
Restore.
Find the file of your backup. (either a data and time or a name you gave)
Click it.
Wait till it's done.
Reboot system now.
In recovery use the trackpad to navigate and confirm and in hboot, i think, volume up and down to navigate and power to confirm.
If there is no backup file at step 6, wipe dalvik cache under advanced (also in recovery), reboot and see if that fixed it. If not do a full wipe in recovery, data/factory reset, cache and dalvik cache under advanced. Keep in mind this will wipe everything of your phone. Sd card is not affected.
Thanks for the reply first off i know its my fault i program computers for a living and find it quite frustrating when i cant get a linux based phone to boot..
also to recovering the backup in clocksworkmod ... it didnt work, but it is probably corrupted from not being able to do a full backup of my phone.... if you or anyone else here who has a back on a htc desire please feel free to send me it
also to factory restore, formating cache still a no go im starting to lose hope already the phone hardware sense it fine its just the operating system thats bonkers
and finally i can understand you defending clocksmod and they have done a very good job but maybe next time they should warn us about this big bug thats in the backup process because this little piece of software has proberly bricked my phone from a tiny bug in the software
Well almost 900Mb is enough to back up your entire phone, unless you have a massif ext partition. So I doubt that is the problem but whatever.
If both the above steps didn't work (and you also clear dalvik cache) I suggest you just install a custom rom. If you don't know what you want or where to start, I suggest you start with Leedroid. If you have a ext partition on your sd card use the A2SD version, if you don't use NoA2SD version.
To install:
Download the rom.
Boot in to recovery.
Connect the phone to the pc.
Go to mounts and mount the sd as mass storage (or whatever it's called, should be the last option in the list if I remember correct)
Copy the rom to the sd. (not in any folder, just on the sd card)
Safely remove and unmount again.
Wipe data/factory rest, cache and dalvik again just to be sure.
Go to install zip form sd.
Chose zip form sd
Find the zip you just transferred and flash it.
Wait till it's done.
Reboot system. (this can take up to 10 minutes)
This should give you a booting phone again.
TheGhost1233 said:
Well almost 900Mb is enough to back up your entire phone, unless you have a massif ext partition. So I doubt that is the problem but whatever.
If both the above steps didn't work (and you also clear dalvik cache) I suggest you just install a custom rom. If you don't know what you want or where to start, I suggest you start with Leedroid. If you have a ext partition on your sd card use the A2SD version, if you don't use NoA2SD version.
To install:
Download the rom.
Boot in to recovery.
Connect the phone to the pc.
Go to mounts and mount the sd as mass storage (or whatever it's called, should be the last option in the list if I remember correct)
Copy the rom to the sd. (not in any folder, just on the sd card)
Safely remove and unmount again.
Wipe data/factory rest, cache and dalvik again just to be sure.
Go to install zip form sd.
Chose zip form sd
Find the zip you just transferred and flash it.
Wait till it's done.
Reboot system. (this can take up to 10 minutes)
This should give you a booting phone again.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks again for the fantasitic help I will get right on it.. havent got much to lose now haha sorry for the late reply I was called to work I will post a video here to show some what the issue is before i install a custom rom thanks again
Oh and do you have paypal cause if it works i will pay you 20-50 or somthing LOl
Hi Guys
I have a relly rare problem with my phone. The main problem is that i can't charge it. When I put it on the charger for probbably 10 sec. is charging (orange indicator) but then start blinking orange/green.
I tried also connect to PC, result is the same.
I thought that the problem will be in battery, but today at work I tried college battery and the problem is still the sme.
The funniest thing is, that I can turn - on my phone, get into boot-loader etc, but when i try to turn it on, it starts loading everything work's fine, but just begore the system is loaded (i can see the status bar, loading sd card), the phone shut down.
I really don't know what to do. I tried hard reset, restore backup from original HTC OS, turn on with/without sd card .... i think that everything
Could you help me somehow ?
Thanks
PS: sorry for my english
My boot loader is HBOOT-6-01.1002
RADIO-3.35.20.10
and i'm using Cyanogen Mod 7.03
try without the sdcard! sounds like something may be corrupt on it. if it all works fine without the card then i think a format is necessary ...... this will delete all sdcard data so make a backup 1st then start transfering needed things back slowly, testing a reboot on each new folder etc transfered. or run a disk check of sdcard on pc.
you could also try a fresh flash of the rom too.
R.V.3
slymobi said:
try without the sdcard! sounds like something may be corrupt on it. if it all works fine without the card then i think a format is necessary ...... this will delete all sdcard data so make a backup 1st then start transfering needed things back slowly, testing a reboot on each new folder etc transfered. or run a disk check of sdcard on pc.
you could also try a fresh flash of the rom too.
R.V.3
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
as i wrote, the sd card is OK, i tried with/without sd card(also in bootloader i can list the card), the problem is still the same. Also tried flash new rom, but nothing changed :-/
Can you post a picture of your boot loader?
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using Tapatalk 2
lo2ay said:
Can you post a picture of your boot loader?
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I hope you meen this
jank0 said:
as i wrote, the sd card is OK, i tried with/without sd card(also in bootloader i can list the card), the problem is still the same. Also tried flash new rom, but nothing changed :-/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ah,sorry i missed that.
R.V.3
jank0 said:
I hope you meen this
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Alright, looks familiar btw (exactly like mine lol) - did you have an ext partition? If not: any apps on sd? You said that you flashed the ROM again - did you format or wipe the system partition before? (If you run into ROM related probs most of the time it won't help just to flash the ROM over because the problems might resist).
eventcom said:
Alright, looks familiar btw (exactly like mine lol) - did you have an ext partition? If not: any apps on sd? You said that you flashed the ROM again - did you format or wipe the system partition before? (If you run into ROM related probs most of the time it won't help just to flash the ROM over because the problems might resist).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, i moved many apps on sd-card (i probbably don't have any ext partition,but not sure)
After new flash (if it mean's instaling new from from sd card) i used wipe dalvik cache, but after installation, not before.
So could you tell mr kind of step by step introductions what should I do, because i'm not really good in this stuff :-/
Thanks
Try flashing the rom again but with full wipes, not just dalvik cache. But also cache, data & system. After you do the wipes reflash your rom (and Gapps if needed). This will delete all your apps, SMSs and contacts though...
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using Tapatalk 2
lo2ay said:
Try flashing the rom again but with full wipes, not just dalvik cache. But also cache, data & system. After you do the wipes reflash your rom (and Gapps if needed). This will delete all your apps, SMSs and contacts though...
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So i wiped data/factory reset, wipe cache partition, wipe dalvik cache, then installed cyanogen mod 7.2.0, but the problem still persists.
Now i think the problem will be somewhere with the apps on sd-card, because before the phone shut down, i can see in status bar text "preparing sd card" ....
Is there anything else i can do ?
and i didn't try flashing gapps, because i dont know what to do ? ... i need to download some zip and install it from sd ? or ?
Thanks
jank0 said:
So i wiped data/factory reset, wipe cache partition, wipe dalvik cache, then installed cyanogen mod 7.2.0
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'd also wipe (better format) system partition
Now i think the problem will be somewhere with the apps on sd-card, because before the phone shut down, i can see in status bar text "preparing sd card" ....
Is there anything else i can do ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes: remove those apps (you could do a backup with titanium backup) and try again. You did mention that earlier - a full wipe seems pretty useless if you leave parts that interact on a FAT32 partition... (or do you use an ext partition?).
If you start fresh without any apps on sd you could at least exclude this from the list of possible causes
To make this clear: from my experience there rarely will be one single easy action you could do to solve a persistant problem. Therefore most of the time it helps to follow all the steps of those procedures very careful, systematic and throw lazyness over board
So I'd do a full wipe/new install following this procedure:
format /system, /data
wipe /dalvik-cache, /cache
wipe all/factory reset
flash ROM
flash gapps
reboot without sdcard first (just to make sure)
and i didn't try flashing gapps, because i dont know what to do ? ... i need to download some zip and install it from sd ? or ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You'll need the correct gapps for your Android version and flash it right after flashing the ROM (has to be done as gapps are freely available by Google but aren't allowed to include into custom ROMs due to licences)
Gapps could be found here: http://goo.im/gapps
So i will try full / wipe (new installation)
I just don't know what you mean by "format /system, /data" and how to do it ... is it somewhere in recovery mode ? or there is any app for it ?
"(or do you use an ext partition?)" - not sure I created somthing probabbly like that, because i wanted to move my apps on sd card ... but not sure ... i'm pretty lame in this stuff.
jank0 said:
So i will try full / wipe (new installation)
I just don't know what you mean by "format /system, /data" and how to do it ... is it somewhere in recovery mode ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes, depends on your version where to find it - it's at "mounts and storage" / "format" here (if I'm not mistaken - sorry too lazy to go there now)
"(or do you use an ext partition?)" - not sure I created somthing probabbly like that, because i wanted to move my apps on sd card ... but not sure ... i'm pretty lame in this stuff.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if you "created something" or have all your apps on sd you most probably have an ext partition which you should format/wipe, too, then (after backing up your apps...)
didn't help
formated /system, /data /sd-ext
wipe /dalvik-cache, /cache
wipe all/factory reset
then installed rom from zip , after that i installed google aps, turn it off (because of inserted sd card) than turn it on without sdcard .... but problem is still the same
Use the guide in my signature. First to unroot and S-ON. Then wipe SD card.
Then root again (also in sig), hopefully it'll be gone.
usaff22 said:
Use the guide in my signature. First to unroot and S-ON. Then wipe SD card.
Then root again (also in sig), hopefully it'll be gone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Today at work my colleague tryed your guide (step by step, unroot S-ON , wipe sd partition then root .... etc) but didn't help, he also gave mi error log from phone, so if somone could help me.
I can see some errors in there, but really don't know what to do. Can you help with that ?
Thanks a lot
jank0 said:
Today at work my colleague tryed your guide (step by step, unroot S-ON , wipe sd partition then root .... etc) but didn't help, he also gave mi error log from phone, so if somone could help me.
I can see some errors in there, but really don't know what to do. Can you help with that ?
Thanks a lot
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
From what I understand, it just looks like a normal day for the Wildfire; some errors but mainly just day to day errors, somethings that my £560 One S does
Do you know which part he got stuck on by any chance? Which step, etc.
Sent from my HTC One S using Tapatalk 2
usaff22 said:
Do you know which part he got stuck on by any chance? Which step, etc.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
he didn't get stuck anywhere ...
But after all that incident's i'll installed RUU and the phone working correctly (he is not shuting down on initialization)
but the charging problem is still in there (blinking orange / green when i want to charge it while it's ON).
Only way i can charge my phone is in bootloader but still better then nothing
So thanx a lot for advices.
jank0 said:
he didn't get stuck anywhere ...
But after all that incident's i'll installed RUU and the phone working correctly (he is not shuting down on initialization)
but the charging problem is still in there (blinking orange / green when i want to charge it while it's ON).
Only way i can charge my phone is in bootloader but still better then nothing
So thanx a lot for advices.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try to change your charger/data cable..may be its a charging port fault.
sixline said:
Try to change your charger/data cable..may be its a charging port fault.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
good idea. Having this said it might also be a good idea to carefully check your micro USB slot (this also causes a faulty behaviour with the car dock app sometimes) - you could give it a blast with compressed air to blow out particles (but be careful not to blow the stuff inside the phone).
I flash a lot of roms on my phone. Recently I noticed that there was a lot of left over programs and apps on my internal memory. I have nothing on the phone I want to keep that is not already backed up via TitaniumBackup.
What I would like to do, is wipe everything that I can without messing up partitions or Mount points or the needed stuff in ./data/media so I can flash a new room on a totally clean phone (except for the nessasary files needed like the data/media stuff and recovery stuff ect..)
Normally when I flash I do this: (in TWRP)
1. Nandroid backup
2. Wipe/factory restore
3. Wipe data and system again
4. Flash new ROM
5. Wipe devlik/cache
6. Reboot
When I finally get to the desktop I start up root explorer and look around my internal memory. This is were I still see a lot of old apps still sitting there. I want them gone. I'm afraid to wipe/format internal memory while in TWRP because I will lose everything right ? Even the stuff that is needed to boot the phone to recovery.
Any suggestions ?
Thanks
T-Mobile Samsung G S4
SGH-M919
TWRP v6.x.x.x
16 gig micro sd-card
Go in twrp and click wipe, advanced, and click everything. after wiping Mount the phone to PC via twrp and move the rom and kernel to sd card. Unmount then do the steps you usually do to install a ROM, including wipe.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I am always on the mobile app and am always 'trying' to help others and moderators on the forum and learning something new everyday. I make stupid posts sometimes, but I never repeat a mistake more than once. I may not be a developer, but I know alot of stuff, so feel free to messsge me any questions and I'll be happy to answer them to the best of my ability.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I'm starting a video game company with my friend where we will be making Android games. message me for more info or go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2290843
Thibor69 said:
I flash a lot of roms on my phone. Recently I noticed that there was a lot of left over programs and apps on my internal memory. I have nothing on the phone I want to keep that is not already backed up via TitaniumBackup.
What I would like to do, is wipe everything that I can without messing up partitions or Mount points or the needed stuff in ./data/media so I can flash a new room on a totally clean phone (except for the nessasary files needed like the data/media stuff and recovery stuff ect..)
Normally when I flash I do this: (in TWRP)
1. Nandroid backup
2. Wipe/factory restore
3. Wipe data and system again
4. Flash new ROM
5. Wipe devlik/cache
6. Reboot
When I finally get to the desktop I start up root explorer and look around my internal memory. This is were I still see a lot of old apps still sitting there. I want them gone. I'm afraid to wipe/format internal memory while in TWRP because I will lose everything right ? Even the stuff that is needed to boot the phone to recovery.
Any suggestions ?
Thanks
T-Mobile Samsung G S4
SGH-M919
TWRP v6.x.x.x
16 gig micro sd-card
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you have your TiBu backups, nandroids, and ROM zips, pictures, videos, etc already on your SD card; there is no harm in formatting your internal memory. You won't lose recovery, you won't have a problem with booting, nothing of that sort.
When I was running SynergyRom on my S3, wiping Internal memory was usually Always suggested because of the reasons you mentioned.
Move your Nandroid and files you want to flash to your extSdCard card for obvious reasons.
I have TWRP 2.5.0.2 as my Recovery, which has been running without issues for months.
Enter Recovery:
Press -
Wipe
Format Data
As a safety valve, you'll be asked to Type in Yes to continue this Internal wipe.
You'll retain the partitions you mentioned.
I think the above will get you to where you want to be.
You can always double check afterward as you've already done before.
Biker1 said:
When I was running SynergyRom on my S3, wiping Internal memory was usually Always suggested because of the reasons you mentioned.
Move your Nandroid and files you want to flash to your extSdCard card for obvious reasons.
I have TWRP 2.5.0.2 as my Recovery, which has been running without issues for months.
Enter Recovery:
Press -
Wipe
Format Data
As a safety valve, you'll be asked to Type in Yes to continue this Internal wipe.
You'll retain the partitions you mentioned.
I think the above will get you to where you want to be.
You can always double check afterward as you've already done before.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just wanted to say good question and responses. Helpful.
Hi there,
I got a custom Rom installed on my HTC desire, but now a year later it's getting a bit slow .. I would like to re-install this rom (believe it was MildWild 8.0 ) but whats the best way to do this ?
Can i just make a 'factory reset' from the CWM recory menu ? Or should i wipe everything and flash the Rom again ? Or maybe some other option ?
Thanks in Advance.
try wipe cache and dalvik in recovery then reboot.
maybe help .
Mascarponi said:
Hi there,
I got a custom Rom installed on my HTC desire, but now a year later it's getting a bit slow .. I would like to re-install this rom (believe it was MildWild 8.0 ) but whats the best way to do this ?
Can i just make a 'factory reset' from the CWM recory menu ? Or should i wipe everything and flash the Rom again ? Or maybe some other option ?
Thanks in Advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try mildwild 14 based on redux2
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA Free mobile app
Mascarponi said:
Hi there,
I got a custom Rom installed on my HTC desire, but now a year later it's getting a bit slow .. I would like to re-install this rom (believe it was MildWild 8.0 ) but whats the best way to do this ?
Can i just make a 'factory reset' from the CWM recory menu ? Or should i wipe everything and flash the Rom again ? Or maybe some other option ?
Thanks in Advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You should try to work out why it might be slow in the first place.
Are you using an sd partition for A2SD? How did you create the partition? Any other scripts?
If you want to simply reinstall the ROM, you can:
- make a nandroid backup just in case
- flash the ROM.zip straight over the top, no wipe
This may clean things a little on your /system partition, and you shouldn't lose your apps.
If you "wipe data / factory reset" within cwm, and do nothing afterwards, this will wipe the ROM and it will not boot as you won't have any OS.
You can reflash the ROM.zip after "wipe data / factory reset", this is simply a full wipe and reinstall from scratch. Make sure you have a nandroid, backed up your contacts to google, and a titanium backup of your apps etc before you try this.
conjro said:
try wipe cache and dalvik in recovery then reboot.
maybe help .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Despite this being repeated millions of times in xda, it rarely ever actually solves anything. cache is just temporary files. dalvik is required for apps to function. after you wipe it, it simply rebuilds, which is why it takes so long to boot afterwards...
In other words don't bother wiping dalvik...save yourself the time.
Thanks for the help.
It's probably getting slow because I run most apps via A2SD .. Cant really remember how i created the partition back then, it's more than a year ago now...don't think i use other scripts.
I don't use this phone that much anymore, but i wanted to have a backup phone in case my newer one gets broken or something, therefore i wanted to do a clean install on this one.
So if i flash the ROM straight over this one, without wiping, i still got al my personal data on the phone ?
Does a Nandroid backup also backs up the apps ? Cause when i reinstall this backup it probably gets slow again right ?
Is there a way to backup only the system settings from the ROM, so that when i do a full wipe , reinstall the same ROM again, i can restore the changes i made in this ROM ?
Thanks.
eddiehk6 said:
You should try to work out why it might be slow in the first place.
Are you using an sd partition for A2SD? How did you create the partition? Any other scripts?
If you want to simply reinstall the ROM, you can:
- make a nandroid backup just in case
- flash the ROM.zip straight over the top, no wipe
This may clean things a little on your /system partition, and you shouldn't lose your apps.
If you "wipe data / factory reset" within cwm, and do nothing afterwards, this will wipe the ROM and it will not boot as you won't have any OS.
You can reflash the ROM.zip after "wipe data / factory reset", this is simply a full wipe and reinstall from scratch. Make sure you have a nandroid, backed up your contacts to google, and a titanium backup of your apps etc before you try this.
Despite this being repeated millions of times in xda, it rarely ever actually solves anything. cache is just temporary files. dalvik is required for apps to function. after you wipe it, it simply rebuilds, which is why it takes so long to boot afterwards...
In other words don't bother wiping dalvik...save yourself the time.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mascarponi said:
It's probably getting slow because I run most apps via A2SD
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You're supposed to run all your user installed apps via A2SD, that's why you rooted and partitioned your sd card in the first place. Otherwise you run out of space again
.. Cant really remember how i created the partition back then, it's more than a year ago now...don't think i use other scripts.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you can't remember how you did it, then there's a chance you did it wrongly. It should be done with 4EXT recovery or gparted only, not clockworkmod recovery or minitool partition wizard. You mention clockworkmod recovery, so I assume you are also still S-ON?
So if i flash the ROM straight over this one, without wiping, i still got al my personal data on the phone ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, but make a nandroid backup first just in case
Does a Nandroid backup also backs up the apps ? Cause when i reinstall this backup it probably gets slow again right ?
Is there a way to backup only the system settings from the ROM, so that when i do a full wipe , reinstall the same ROM again, i can restore the changes i made in this ROM ?
Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
To be honest, these are kind of basics you should know before you try anything with your phone A nandroid backup is a backup of everything. When you restore it, it should be exactly the same: apps, settings, texts, home screens etc.
You should be making a nandroid backup before you wipe / install anything unless you know exactly what you're doing, as it is a safe point to restore to if anything goes wrong. You can even move them off your sdcard to PC or cloud storage to save space and for safekeeping (normally stored in the /clockworkmod folder)
You can backup anything you like with apps like Titanium Backup. It is best used for your normal apps and app data. You can backup and restore /system apps and data, but this is very risky and I don't recommend it.
Personally I would recommend a full wipe and restore, setting everything up properly from the start as it should have been done in the first place. I'm assuming you're still S-ON:
- Install Titanium Backup, backup all your user apps and data (not system apps)
- Make sure your contacts are backed up to your Google account, backup SMS if you need to with another app
- Backup your whole sdcard to PC
- S-OFF with revolutionary
- Flash cm7r2 hboot using fastboot, this will optimise your actual internal memory more efficiently.
- Flash 4EXT recovery using fastboot
- Reformat your sdcard in 4EXT, partition with maximum 2GB ext4 partition, no swap
- Copy your sd card backup back
- Full wipe (wipe all partitions except sdcard)
- Flash ROM.zip
- Restore user apps + data with Titanium
Hey Eddie,
Thanks for you answer, really appreciate it.
I installed the custom rom on my phone more than a year ago, and back then i was really into it, now most of the details i forgot..
But it's S-OFF for sure, and i installed HBOOT also..i can't really remember how i formatted the SD card, is there a way to find that out ?
I will probably just install the same rom again, but first do a full wipe like you advised. Then it probably will work as smooth as it did in the beginning when i installed this ROM for the first time..
Do i need to reformat the SD-card again then, or is only a wipe enough?
Also, when installing apps, i now move them to SD card via the 'apps' menu -> move to SD , is that the right way to do it ? Or is there some other method ?
eddiehk6 said:
You're supposed to run all your user installed apps via A2SD, that's why you rooted and partitioned your sd card in the first place. Otherwise you run out of space again
If you can't remember how you did it, then there's a chance you did it wrongly. It should be done with 4EXT recovery or gparted only, not clockworkmod recovery or minitool partition wizard. You mention clockworkmod recovery, so I assume you are also still S-ON?
Yes, but make a nandroid backup first just in case
To be honest, these are kind of basics you should know before you try anything with your phone A nandroid backup is a backup of everything. When you restore it, it should be exactly the same: apps, settings, texts, home screens etc.
You should be making a nandroid backup before you wipe / install anything unless you know exactly what you're doing, as it is a safe point to restore to if anything goes wrong. You can even move them off your sdcard to PC or cloud storage to save space and for safekeeping (normally stored in the /clockworkmod folder)
You can backup anything you like with apps like Titanium Backup. It is best used for your normal apps and app data. You can backup and restore /system apps and data, but this is very risky and I don't recommend it.
Personally I would recommend a full wipe and restore, setting everything up properly from the start as it should have been done in the first place. I'm assuming you're still S-ON:
- Install Titanium Backup, backup all your user apps and data (not system apps)
- Make sure your contacts are backed up to your Google account, backup SMS if you need to with another app
- Backup your whole sdcard to PC
- S-OFF with revolutionary
- Flash cm7r2 hboot using fastboot, this will optimise your actual internal memory more efficiently.
- Flash 4EXT recovery using fastboot
- Reformat your sdcard in 4EXT, partition with maximum 2GB ext4 partition, no swap
- Copy your sd card backup back
- Full wipe (wipe all partitions except sdcard)
- Flash ROM.zip
- Restore user apps + data with Titanium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mascarponi said:
Hey Eddie,
Thanks for you answer, really appreciate it.
I installed the custom rom on my phone more than a year ago, and back then i was really into it, now most of the details i forgot..
But it's S-OFF for sure, and i installed HBOOT also..i can't really remember how i formatted the SD card, is there a way to find that out ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
S-OFF means you unlocked the bootloader, it's a good start but nothing more. Explain 'installed HBOOT', did you already actually flash a different hboot? Write what is says on top of your bootloader screen. If it just says 'Alpharev', means you are actually still on stock hboot.
Like I said, if you can't remember how you partitioned your sdcard, you may have done it wrongly. Please reformat it from scratch as advised.
I will probably just install the same rom again, but first do a full wipe like you advised. Then it probably will work as smooth as it did in the beginning when i installed this ROM for the first time..
Do i need to reformat the SD-card again then, or is only a wipe enough?
Also, when installing apps, i now move them to SD card via the 'apps' menu -> move to SD , is that the right way to do it ? Or is there some other method ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Reformat your sdcard from the start, do it the right way so you know you've done it the right way, rather than be uncertain...then follow instructions as above.
Roms like Mildwild have A2SD built in, you only need to keep apps on 'internal' to trick them to your sd-ext partition. 'Move to SD' is redundant, and moves part of the app to the FAT32 partition of your sd card. A2SD moves all of the app apk (and dalvik cache if you choose to), to the sd-ext which is where you want.
Other ROMs you need to activate A2SD manually, read the first post. Same rule still applies, don't use 'Move to SD', because if you do, you are not actually using your sd-ext partition...
Some ROMs like MildWild are also better installed on smaller hboots like cm7r2 to use your internal memory more efficiently (stock hboot is wasteful). Again instructions should be given in the first post of each ROM.
eddiehk6 said:
S-OFF means you unlocked the bootloader, it's a good start but nothing more. Explain 'installed HBOOT', did you already actually flash a different hboot? Write what is says on top of your bootloader screen. If it just says 'Alpharev', means you are actually still on stock hboot.
Like I said, if you can't remember how you partitioned your sdcard, you may have done it wrongly. Please reformat it from scratch as advised.
Reformat your sdcard from the start, do it the right way so you know you've done it the right way, rather than be uncertain...then follow instructions as above.
Roms like Mildwild have A2SD built in, you only need to keep apps on 'internal' to trick them to your sd-ext partition. 'Move to SD' is redundant, and moves part of the app to the FAT32 partition of your sd card. A2SD moves all of the app apk (and dalvik cache if you choose to), to the sd-ext which is where you want.
Other ROMs you need to activate A2SD manually, read the first post. Same rule still applies, don't use 'Move to SD', because if you do, you are not actually using your sd-ext partition...
Some ROMs like MildWild are also better installed on smaller hboots like cm7r2 to use your internal memory more efficiently (stock hboot is wasteful). Again instructions should be given in the first post of each ROM.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When i boot up in bootloader it says:
- revolutionary -
S-off
Hboot-6.93.1002
Radio etc..
Repartitioning is probably not necassery because i already think i did, but maybe do it again then..
A2SD:
This is what i did wrong all the time..i moved them to SD card via 'apps' in settings'..maybe this is why it got a little slower by time.
However i cant find any app called A2SD or is this a script that runs automatically ?
When i check the app 'freespace' it says : internal, microSD, Sd-ext, system.
thanks
Mascarponi said:
When i boot up in bootloader it says:
- revolutionary -
S-off
Hboot-6.93.1002
Radio etc..
Repartitioning is probably not necassery because i already think i did, but maybe do it again then..
A2SD:
This is what i did wrong all the time..i moved them to SD card via 'apps' in settings'..maybe this is why it got a little slower by time.
However i cant find any app called A2SD or is this a script that runs automatically ?
When i check the app 'freespace' it says : internal, microSD, Sd-ext, system.
thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Its a script so if your apps are on internal it will automatically trick them to move them to your sd ext which is the partition you have made which is 1gb recommended...
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA Free mobile app
Mascarponi said:
When i boot up in bootloader it says:
- revolutionary -
S-off
Hboot-6.93.1002
Radio etc..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This means you are still on stock hboot.
If you are on Mildwild ROM, you are wasting space
Repartitioning is probably not necassery because i already think i did, but maybe do it again then..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, for the third time...
You think you already did it, and you have no idea how you did it...
Therefore: it is most likely is that you haven't done it, or you 've done it incorrectly.
If you've done it using clockworkmod recovery or minitool, they make bad partitions. It could be the exact reason you're having these slowdowns in the first place
You should do it with 4EXT recovery or gparted ONLY, nothing else. If neither sound familiar, then this increases your chances further that you have partitioned incorrectly...
A2SD:
This is what i did wrong all the time..i moved them to SD card via 'apps' in settings'..maybe this is why it got a little slower by time.
However i cant find any app called A2SD or is this a script that runs automatically ?
When i check the app 'freespace' it says : internal, microSD, Sd-ext, system.
thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Like I said, Mildwild ROMs have A2SD built in, it's not an app...
Have a look again at freespace. You see all that free empty space on your /system partition? This is completely wasted redundant space.
You have exactly the same internal memory layout as before you rooted / S-OFF. With S-OFF you can change your actual internal memory layout by flashing a different hboot, see alpharev.nl.
By flashing a different hboot, you reduce your /system and /cache size -> and therefore increase your /data size (internal memory) = more space for apps :good: This is probably why you rooted in the first place...
So I believe you have narrowed it down to two choices:
- Keep full wiping...and never understand what you're doing...
- Follow the instructions and try to learn what you're doing and how your memory is actually being used Set everything up from scratch. It is the only way to guarantee you have a proper setup.
Up to you
Listen to eddie
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2125513
eddiehk6 said:
This means you are still on stock hboot.
If you are on Mildwild ROM, you are wasting space
No, for the third time...
You think you already did it, and you have no idea how you did it...
Therefore: it is most likely is that you haven't done it, or you 've done it incorrectly.
If you've done it using clockworkmod recovery or minitool, they make bad partitions. It could be the exact reason you're having these slowdowns in the first place
You should do it with 4EXT recovery or gparted ONLY, nothing else. If neither sound familiar, then this increases your chances further that you have partitioned incorrectly...
Like I said, Mildwild ROMs have A2SD built in, it's not an app...
Have a look again at freespace. You see all that free empty space on your /system partition? This is completely wasted redundant space.
You have exactly the same internal memory layout as before you rooted / S-OFF. With S-OFF you can change your actual internal memory layout by flashing a different hboot, see alpharev.nl.
By flashing a different hboot, you reduce your /system and /cache size -> and therefore increase your /data size (internal memory) = more space for apps :good: This is probably why you rooted in the first place...
So I believe you have narrowed it down to two choices:
- Keep full wiping...and never understand what you're doing...
- Follow the instructions and try to learn what you're doing and how your memory is actually being used Set everything up from scratch. It is the only way to guarantee you have a proper setup.
Up to you
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok Eddie, you got me convinced
Will follow your instructions , do a full whipe, re-partition it and perform a clean install like you mentioned in a couple of posts earlier .. thanks !
eddiehk6 said:
You're supposed to run all your user installed apps via A2SD, that's why you rooted and partitioned your sd card in the first place. Otherwise you run out of space again
Personally I would recommend a full wipe and restore, setting everything up properly from the start as it should have been done in the first place. I'm assuming you're still S-ON:
- Install Titanium Backup, backup all your user apps and data (not system apps)
- Make sure your contacts are backed up to your Google account, backup SMS if you need to with another app
- Backup your whole sdcard to PC
- S-OFF with revolutionary
- Flash cm7r2 hboot using fastboot, this will optimise your actual internal memory more efficiently.
- Flash 4EXT recovery using fastboot
- Reformat your sdcard in 4EXT, partition with maximum 2GB ext4 partition, no swap
- Copy your sd card backup back
- Full wipe (wipe all partitions except sdcard)
- Flash ROM.zip
- Restore user apps + data with Titanium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi Eddy,
Finally I got the time to set up everything properly on my (new) Htc Desire, cause i lost my old one
Here is what i've done so far:
- Got it Rooted via the method advised here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1275632
- Then I S-Offed with Revolutionary script, and installed CWM 5.0.2.0 .. not really what you advised me but i wanted to test if it was working, cause i had this recovery on my old phone also.
- Then I flashed cm7r2 hboot using Android Flasher. Could not get it to work via CMD->Fastboot on windows.
- Now i end up with a boot loop, only giving me the white HTC screen. When booting up in Hboot, it says:
AlphaRev CM7 r2
S-Off
HBoot-6.93.1002
I can enter CWM recovery, but it gives me some errors like 'E: Can't open /cache/recovery/log
And like i said: booting normally it ends up in a bootloop.
Did i do anything wrong, and what s the best way to move on now ?
Thanks in advance.
Mascarponi said:
Hi Eddy,
Finally I got the time to set up everything properly on my (new) Htc Desire, cause i lost my old one
Here is what i've done so far:
- Got it Rooted via the method advised here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1275632
- Then I S-Offed with Revolutionary script, and installed CWM 5.0.2.0 .. not really what you advised me but i wanted to test if it was working, cause i had this recovery on my old phone also.
- Then I flashed cm7r2 hboot using Android Flasher. Could not get it to work via CMD->Fastboot on windows.
- Now i end up with a boot loop, only giving me the white HTC screen. When booting up in Hboot, it says:
AlphaRev CM7 r2
S-Off
HBoot-6.93.1002
I can enter CWM recovery, but it gives me some errors like 'E: Can't open /cache/recovery/log
And like i said: booting normally it ends up in a bootloop.
Did i do anything wrong, and what s the best way to move on now ?
Thanks in advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When u change hboot u have perform full wipe then reflash rom or restore nandroid backup. So in recovery wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache, go to advanced and wipe dalvik cache then reboot recovery then flash rom or restore nandroid backup if u have one.
Also ul prob need to partition ur sdcard for a2sd in roms so u must use 4ext recovery or gparted only. So again, flash 4ext recovery.
jmcclue said:
When u change hboot u have perform full wipe then reflash rom or restore nandroid backup. So in recovery wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache, go to advanced and wipe dalvik cache then reboot recovery then flash rom or restore nandroid backup if u have one.
Also ul prob need to partition ur sdcard for a2sd in roms so u must use 4ext recovery or gparted only. So again, flash 4ext recovery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok thats clear, thanks for your reply.
I'd like to install 4Ext recovery, but it seems installing this recovery is done a little different from other recoveries right ?
Cause on their website it's done via an app frome the market..
Should i install a new rom first, then install 4Ext recovery ? Or can i flash 4Ext recovery from a zipfile in clockworkmod recovery ?
Mascarponi said:
Ok thats clear, thanks for your reply.
I'd like to install 4Ext recovery, but it seems installing this recovery is done a little different from other recoveries right ?
Cause on their website it's done via an app frome the market..
Should i install a new rom first, then install 4Ext recovery ? Or can i flash 4Ext recovery from a zipfile in clockworkmod recovery ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Go to desire general and ul see a thread by me "4ext recovery as PB99IMG" download and extract the file and flash the recovery.img via fastboot commands then once u have a rom installed u can download the 4ext app and update the recovery to latest version.
jmcclue said:
Go to desire general and ul see a thread by me "4ext recovery as PB99IMG" download and extract the file and flash the recovery.img via fastboot commands then once u have a rom installed u can download the 4ext app and update the recovery to latest version.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks.
Installed it , and am trying to re-partition my SD-card (8 Gb) in the 4Ext recovery mode.
I followed this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2125513
Set 1st sd-ext partition to 2048 mb, skipped second, and skipped swap.
But then i get the message:
You new partiotion table would look like this:
Fat32: 5580 mb
SD-ext: 2048MB
Is that correct ? Shouldn't be all the memory on the SD-card partitioned to SD-ext ?
Mascarponi said:
Thanks.
Installed it , and am trying to re-partition my SD-card (8 Gb) in the 4Ext recovery mode.
I followed this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2125513
Set 1st sd-ext partition to 2048 mb, skipped second, and skipped swap.
But then i get the message:
You new partiotion table would look like this:
Fat32: 5580 mb
SD-ext: 2048MB
Is that correct ? Shouldn't be all the memory on the SD-card partitioned to SD-ext ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yh that looks right.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA Free mobile app
lilsafbig said:
Yh that looks right.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Okay thanks.
I thought that the whole SD-card would be partitioned as 4ext.
Is it true that A2SD now only uses the 4Ext partition (2gb) to trick apps to ?
Anyway, i'm happy to have my desire now set-up properly, so thanks for your help
I tried 2 Mildwild roms already, but didn't find a way to encrypt SD-card within these roms , does anybody knows if that's possible somehow ?
Any suggestions for other (Mildwild) Roms ? (tried MildWild MW-14 and MildWild CM-8.0 JG Stable)
Thanks.