These iHippies are copying Samsung and HTC with lte
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They'll try but it's not likely to effect anything.
Apple stocked up on LTE patents before the release, so likely this won't go anywhere.
I Am Marino said:
They'll try but it's not likely to effect anything.
Apple stocked up on LTE patents before the release, so likely this won't go anywhere.
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Not sure why you say that. It only takes one bullet to kill (and apple has already been trying to get sammy and htc's phones banned, so there's not exactly a deterrence factor here - indeed, one can say that they're forced to go on the offensive in order to force a settlement).
What I don't understand is the timeframe. As we all know, the wheels of "justice" work slowly, but it sort of seems like HTC's two LTE patents have already long been in consideration, and could lead to an ITC injunction soon. Not that I'm any expert in the patent system, mind you.
HTC is already in the process, Samsung is on their way too....
http://androidandme.com/2012/09/sma...ck-us-eu-sales-of-iphone-5-using-lte-patents/
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They'll try but it's not likely to effect anything.
Apple stocked up on LTE patents before the release, so likely this won't go anywhere.
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Apple obtaining LTE patents means nothing in the court of law. However, the patents from HTC and Samsung are considered FRAND patents afaik so they are unlikely to cause any type of injunction.
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Apple obtaining LTE patents means nothing in the court of law.
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How so?
That meant a lot in a court of law when it came to Samsung.
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How so?
That meant a lot in a court of law when it came to Samsung.
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In terms of HTC or Samsung getting an injunction. It doesn't matter what patents Apple has, if they violate HTC or Samsung, they can be found guilty of infringement.
But, these patents are FRAND patents, which means they will not be given an preliminary injunction to ban sales even if the judge thanks they are infringing.
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Google must sue Apple for Notifications,Panorama,Still pictures while video recording ...
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AFAIK, Google doesn't have any approved patents on any of those. They do some notification type patents but none that are exactly like the current JB notification system. And Google didn't invent any of those features as they all existed before they were included in Android.
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Google will never sue Apple directly and vice versa.
When and if this happens, mobile hell will break loose because one OS will die after it.
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AFAIK, Google doesn't have any approved patents on any of those. They do some notification type patents but none that are exactly like the current JB notification system. And Google didn't invent any of those features as they all existed before they were included in Android.
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and Apple didn't invent ANYTHING but they are sueing EVERYONE!
btw. http://androidspin.com/2012/09/11/a...li-and-grocery-store-in-latest-legal-dispute/
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and Apple didn't invent ANYTHING but they are sueing EVERYONE!
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you missed the blatantly obvious.. apple invented rectangles with rounded corners, the jury said so. because before apple, those shapes didnt exist :silly:
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Google will never sue Apple directly and vice versa.
When and if this happens, mobile hell will break loose because one OS will die after it.
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what do u think this can be avoided?
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simms22 said:
you missed the blatantly obvious.. apple invented rectangles with rounded corners, the jury said so. because before apple, those shapes didnt exist :silly:
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****ty U.S Patent office .....
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Apple obtaining LTE patents means nothing in the court of law. However, the patents from HTC and Samsung are considered FRAND patents afaik so they are unlikely to cause any type of injunction.
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If they were FRAND, there would have been a big outcry by now, and the ITC judge of the HTC patents would probably have mentioned it. Instead, the outcry is limited to commenters who are highly opinionated and don't actually know anything.
"Apple claimed the existing 3G-related patents are standard essential patents (SEPs) according to our earlier commitment to the FRAND (fair, reasonable, and non-discriminatory) terms. But the story is totally different when you talk about LTE patents. These are new and highly-valued," a source said in the article.
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Not sure why you say that. It only takes one bullet to kill (and apple has already been trying to get sammy and htc's phones banned, so there's not exactly a deterrence factor here - indeed, one can say that they're forced to go on the offensive in order to force a settlement).
What I don't understand is the timeframe. As we all know, the wheels of "justice" work slowly, but it sort of seems like HTC's two LTE patents have already long been in consideration, and could lead to an ITC injunction soon. Not that I'm any expert in the patent system, mind you.
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If they requested the patent prior to trial they are fine. If during trial...they're screwed
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and Apple didn't invent ANYTHING but they are sueing EVERYONE!
btw. http://androidspin.com/2012/09/11/a...li-and-grocery-store-in-latest-legal-dispute/
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They may not have invented anything but they have a crap load of patents that says otherwise. Google has only recently started focusing on applying for patents for Android. They are way behind Apple in this regard. This is why they were forced to buy Motorola.
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Article on it here
http://mobile.businessweek.com/news...-challenged-by-apple-probably-valid-judge-say
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Hope HTC, slaps Apple stupid hard for being sneaky.
I love me HTC and Samsung. They are on some boss moves. HTC will probably stomp on them harder since they "Truly" are the first with the LTE stamp.. second is Samsung.
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Did anyone happen to read the article on Tech Radar about Apple filing suit against the Galaxy Nexus? They are filing for the fact that it uses...get this......slide to unlock that Apple was awarded a few weeks back....LOL. Thoughts?
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Apple invented smartphones? Didn't you get the notification?
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I'm surprised anyone with a candy bar form isn't getting the cease and desist letters.
I hate our current patent laws. Let's rewrite them.
The end.
The IPAQ would like a word with Apple
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I'm surprised anyone with a candy bar form isn't getting the cease and desist letters.
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Who says they didn't?
Perhaps the fruit markets should sue Apple for using their name. These lawsuits are getting out of hand.
I don't know why they are suing Samsung and not Google. It's like suing Dell for having Microsoft's Windows 7 infringing on one of their patents.
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Google bought a patent from IBM that is for a "computer phone".... I think apple should be careful.
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I don't know why they are suing Samsung and not Google. It's like suing Dell for having Microsoft's Windows 7 infringing on one of their patents.
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Good point. I understand Apple suing Samsung over the look of the tab 10.1 but this isnt Samsung's fault. It is a software issue so they should be suing Google. I don't see how Apple can win this case at all.
can't google sue apple for copying their notification bar?
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can't google sue apple for copying their notification bar?
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I don't think so, since they didn't patented it. but Google should be careful it's just a matter of time before Apple patent that too and sues Google over it!
they already were awarded the patent for Face unlock, we have to wait and see when they force Google to take it off from their products.
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I don't think so, since they didn't patented it. but Google should be careful it's just a matter of time before Apple patent that too and sues Google over it!
they already were awarded the patent for Face unlock, we have to wait and see when they force Google to take it off from their products.
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The would be such a f'ing Apple thing to do, steal someone else's idea, patent it, and then sue them for using it!
I really hate Apple
The difference is that Apple isn't going to go directly after Google. Why? Because Google would stomp them out of existence. It's the same reason Microsoft has been going after the various manufacturers for Android lawsuits instead of Google.
Google has nearly endless funds and controls a huge amount of the content that all of the other manufacturers utilize. Going after them would mean a death sentence for their products, as well as a huge portion of their companies. If Apple sued Google over a patent Google would bring history to the table, which would leave Apple/Microsoft without options.
In effect, they'd have the ability to almost shut down production of iPhones and Windows Mobile phones in the United States.
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The difference is that Apple isn't going to go directly after Google. Why? Because Google would stomp them out of existence. It's the same reason Microsoft has been going after the various manufacturers for Android lawsuits instead of Google.
Google has nearly endless funds and controls a huge amount of the content that all of the other manufacturers utilize. Going after them would mean a death sentence for their products, as well as a huge portion of their companies. If Apple sued Google over a patent Google would bring history to the table, which would leave Apple/Microsoft without options.
In effect, they'd have the ability to almost shut down production of iPhones and Windows Mobile phones in the United States.
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Seeing the iPhone banned in the US would make me smile.
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apple would even sue his own father if it had to
they're just pissed off the nexus is way prettier than iphone
Would Google be able to completely shut off their websites to fruit phone users?
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Would Google be able to completely shut off their websites to fruit phone users?
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That would be stupid on their part. They make money from the fruit phones that go to their websites
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Apple is pathetic, they make their own rules and expect you to obey. Afterall, they did invent the smartphone right?
Iphone hasn't evolved at all in 4 generations imo. Now they're too busy with stopping competition by using the screwed up patent laws in the US, than to see that their innovation train has come to a complete stop.
I used to respect Apple for their innovation. But now, I'm pretty close to sledge my old 2g ipod touch, who's only purpose is to play Spotify on my stereo.
Pardon my french but f*ck Apple.
Ventilation done.
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Seeing the iPhone banned in the US would make me smile.
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Just a smile? I'd make a huge party for everyone i know with free drinks and three strippers
No seriously, this mad patent war has to be stopped. Samsung and other phone manufacturers losing way too much money because of these ****** **** ******** and we are paying for it.
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Link to Android Central article
Apple has once again called Samsung into court. This time it's about the Galaxy Nexus and four patents that Apple says it infringes. The patents in question are:
U.S. Patent No. 5,946,647: a patent for data being used as a hyperlink
U.S. Patent No. 8,086,604: a unified search patent
U.S. Patent No. 8,046,721: a slide-to-unlock patent
U.S. Patent No. 8,074,172: a word completion patent*
Apple is requesting that the Samsung Galaxy Nexus be blocked from sale in the United States because it violates these patents. *Should the court find in favor of Apple, a ban against the Galaxy Nexus would be put in effect until the final court decision. *
Could it happen? Certainly. But if it does, it won't go into effect any time soon, it would only affect stores inside the U.S. selling these products, and no jack-booted thugs from Cupertino will come pry your Nexus from your hands. We can't be sure how the courts will act, but all of these are pretty shaky patents, and once again Apple is not going after Google directly -- even though the Galaxy Nexus has a pure vanilla version of Android. *The only certainty here is that the patent system is broken and only serves the company willing to spend the most in the courts.
It's time for Google to step in and put a stop to this bull****. The first patent in question is the same one that was upheld against HTC in a move that shocked the tech community at large, essentially giving Apple the rights to the hyperlink -- something invented over 20 years ago by numerous companies that aren't Apple.
The other three are just as laughable, or would be if not for the fact that Apple was allowed to secure the patents at all.*Every single one of them has existed as prior art long before Apple became relevant, yet a patent was granted each and every time. This is the core of the problem. You can't blame Apple for trying, it's cheaper to litigate away your competition than it is to out-innovate them. *And make no mistake -- that's exactly what's going on here. *Apple wants Android to go away, and a look at any chart that shows market share will tell you why. *It's a ****ty way to get ahead, but it's too easy not to try. It's going to take a tech giant to change the way this all works, and we know nobody can count on Apple or Microsoft to do it, because this is their system, created the way they like it, and making them rich. If Apple is afraid to go after Google, Google needs to go after Apple instead of sitting on their laurels waiting to ride in and save the day at the last minute.
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Watch this video!
"Great artist steal! We have always been shameless about stealing great ideas." -Steve Jobs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW0DUg63lqU
Not trying to flame but you guys really should search better. This has been posted several times. Please search!!"
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just yesterday
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1492356
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americans, you have over 200 parties, not only republicants and the democrats... so vote for Pirate Party and stop this patent bull****
to be honest, US patent system is hilarious
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Not trying to flame but you guys really should search better. This has been posted several times. Please search!!"
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I did search first. I turned up results for the "Android General" forum but not the SGN forum. Do you have an opinion on the topic?
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just yesterday
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1492356
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I would have def posted there if I had seen it, I searched using dif key words. However that is irrelevant now. The thread you linked got no attention at all, except for one guy who confused it for the old story that did NOT pertain to the US. Once again I would like to ask, do you have an opinion? Or does your lack or critical thinking always result in a "don't post this" attitude? I would like to discuss and get other peoples opinions please.
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to be honest, US patent system is hilarious
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agreed!! Or rather what Apple does to it is. Did you watch the vid?
It's OK to steal as long as Apple is doing the stealing
Apple's new Slogan.
Apple is quite obviously scared of the SGN. Justifiably so. Unbelievable that they would go after Samsung though since the software is all Google....
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Apple's new Slogan.
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This has always been their slogan, it's not just a new thing.
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agreed!! Or rather what Apple does to it is. Did you watch the vid?
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nope) what vid?)
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nope) what vid?)
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The YouTube video in OP at the bottom, the Steve Jobs one..
Here is the link again, not sure how to embed it here...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW0DUg63lqU
eh..without watching the full video that clip is taken pretty out of context.
What are the chances of this blowing over and getting solved? Why I ask is that I want this phone but I need to put some money together to buy it since I have to buy it at full price if I want it and I'd hate to see this phone no longer being able to be sold because of stupid ****ing Apple.
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eh..without watching the full video that clip is taken pretty out of context.
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In what context is stealing others work and claiming it as your own okay?
Edit: what about the patent Apple filed recently for a "facial recognition unlock" on their products!? It seams to me Apple is holding up the progress of technology by acquiring their products in court and not in the lab or whatever. They just throw around their weight and money and bully other companies to steal. Jesus Steve Jobs said it himself and you are still trying to defend them.
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What are the chances of this blowing over and getting solved? Why I ask is that I want this phone but I need to put some money together to buy it since I have to buy it at full price if I want it and I'd hate to see this phone no longer being able to be sold because of stupid ****ing Apple.
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Well it was shot down over seas, but here in the US who knows. I would say you will hear about the progress and if it seams you need to buy one quickly you can. And there is always importing in case of a worst case scenario.
What I am most confused about is why is Google not patenting their own work!? I don't get it, they see what Apple is doing yet they seam unwilling to protect their own asses? Are they being wreckless or stupid or..?
Here, from AndroidCentral.. There are links for detailed info about those four patents :
http://www.androidcentral.com/apple-it-again-calling-injunction-against-galaxy-nexus
So, let's discuss those patents. Do you think Apple has a big chance?
Note that the first patent has won them against HTC.
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Here, from AndroidCentral.. There are links for detailed info about those four patents :
http://www.androidcentral.com/apple-it-again-calling-injunction-against-galaxy-nexus
So, let's discuss those patents. Do you think Apple has a big chance?
Note that the first patent has won them against HTC.
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That is the link/ body of text from the OP?. I don't fully understand patents and law but am very interested. The best I can do is state my personal opinions, which I think I have made clear already. I personally think it is a toss up whether Apple has a chance and this is just a way for them to cash in, slow Google and others progress and a way to bully others and steal once again. I think any of the four patents being infringed on should not belong to a apple or any other company either. Let's make progress not slow progress by bickering in court who owns the right to hyperlinks. Amirite?
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... It seams to me Apple is holding up the progress of technology by acquiring their products in court and not in the lab or whatever....
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Apple hasn't come up with much new since the iPhone 2g, they came out with a bang and stopped dead in their tracks. All they're doing now is putting speed bumps in front of all of those whizzing by them.
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Apple hasn't come up with much new since the iPhone 2g, they came out with a bang and stopped dead in their tracks. All they're doing now is putting speed bumps in front of all of those whizzing by them.
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100% agree with that statement and i say it to my brother who has an iphone 4s all the time.
My brother has owned every iphone since they were launched and will defend apple to the end of time.
Apple came out with a great phone to begin with, but have since not really come out with anything completely innovative which has completely changed ios.
Still the same old launcher of icons after icons... same lock screen blah blah blah.
If you look at an origional iphone and then look at an iphone 4s theres not really anything other than the speed improvements that makes you think wow apple has come a long way with the software... ( other than the notifacation bar they added... wonder where they got that idea from ).
Apple need to man up and stop throwing law suits around and come up with some new ideas.
All this does is slow down progress for everybody.
Oh btw... Where do iphones get most of there parts from? Oh thats right... SAMSUNG!!!!
Apple can't sue software, they can only sue the hardware manufacturer. That is why they sued Samsung instead of Google.
http://mobile.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-...nts-Samsung-Galaxy-Nexus-Banned-in-US-385614/
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thats crazy .. If someone would mistake the galaxy nexus for an iphone 4s, they are retarted
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That link does not work for me, but do u mean this?
It's not going to fly. It's a publicity stunt, based around an ironic company. The same company that uses competition and capitalism to exploit workers around the world to build it's products cheaply (Apple), refuses to abide by capitalism when it finally faces some competition (Apple again).
They have no case, regardless of what a legal expert says. The United States hardly, hardly ever bans the sale of any product, even if there is a pending case against patent infringements. Remember the multi-touch cases? Unless Google literally stole the product from Apple, it won't fly. Besides, knowing this case was still going on, why would anyone continue to manufacture a product that couldn't be sold?
Also here
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/1...xy-nexus-in-latest-patent-spat-seeks-u-s-ban/
I think that's outrageous
Another valid reason to HATE apple...
I think apple know that Samsung/Android are whopping apples ass in smartphone sales. So apple decide to play dirty!
Very Sad!
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It's funny how Apple goes after Samsung and not Google. My guess is they are trying to set precedence with a weaker legal team before going after Google. I wouldn't be completely shocked if Google stuck it's nose in and helped out Samsung.
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Another valid reason to HATE apple...
I think apple know that Samsung/Android are whopping apples ass in smartphone sales. So apple decide to play dirty!
Very Sad!
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Not really. Even if Samsung are selling more units than Apple at the moment (which I somewhat doubt), their profits are nowhere near.
I don't know why Apple continue all this legal activity. The iPhone is the closest thing to a money-printing machine that there is.
Picking up a Samsung soon, this kinda crap just re enforces my determination not too own anything with an apple logo on it,apple are nothing but petty tech Taliban who would curb freedom of choice just too sell one more of there flawed devices.
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If I was someone with say, Donald Trump level funds, I'd buy Apple just to shut it down.
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If I was someone with say, Donald Trump level funds, I'd buy Apple just to shut it down.
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You can burn money on your own. No need to take thousands of peoples jobs with you.
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Another valid reason to HATE apple...
I think apple know that Samsung/Android are whopping apples ass in smartphone sales. So apple decide to play dirty!
Very Sad!
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+1! I personally hate everything apple stands for, and laugh at the people who blindly defend them not to mention spend butt loads of money on their out of date products.
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Donald Trump has nowhere near enough money to buy Apple. I don't think anyone does. Unless there's some sort of super-rich dictator out there.
And, I know it was a joke, but if anybody purchased Apple they certainly wouldn't shut it down since it would be generating huge profits for the foreseeable future.
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If I was someone with say, Donald Trump level funds, I'd buy Apple just to shut it down.
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LOL. There are countries that couldn't afford to buy Apple.
And even if you had the money, Apple ain't for sale.
http://www.acsyndicate.net/samsung-strikes-back/
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
Well while we're on this topic here's another blow against Apple via Motorola/Google
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...kes/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
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eao1991 said:
Well while we're on this topic here's another blow against Apple via Motorola/Google
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...kes/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
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I like this one better
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Nice I hate apple. I never buy their junk. Wonder how the ifail 5 will be oh yeah that's right pretty much exactly like the ifail 4****
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
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http://www.acsyndicate.net/samsung-strikes-back/
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
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This means nothing. Acsyndicate.net means nothing to me, or anyone at all.
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Nice I hate apple. I never buy their junk. Wonder how the ifail 5 will be oh yeah that's right pretty much exactly like the ifail 4****
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
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I believe the correct name would be the ifail 4ss
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I wouldn't care who gets sued but the evil empire(apple) brought this and all the suits coming their way especially the one from Motorola/ Google. Apple should have just asked for a small licensing fee and made things easy and reaped the benefits of androids growth instead of making this spectacle and pretty much making them the bad guy in most tech peoples eyes.
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damn, you crazies are angry! I mean seriously, the "butter project" should just about be as fluid as ios 5.
but apple is nice for some folk, like my wife. She can't brick it so i don't have to fix it!
BTW, you realize that even if Apple didn't sue the crap out of every phone manufacturer, the savings would not be passed along to you as the consumer. Samsung, HTC and Motorola would still price mirror the competition and profit. Also, the only people actually winning in these BS lawsuits are the douchebag lawyers, not you and Android.
Come on guys, really...
It's hard to change a brainwashed iSheep's mind.
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This means nothing. Acsyndicate.net means nothing to me, or anyone at all.
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I find a lot of accurate information at acs. You can't speak for me ever again!
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This means nothing. Acsyndicate.net means nothing to me, or anyone at all.
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The sodium levels in this post. Lol.
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
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The sodium levels in this post. Lol.
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
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I beg to differ. I heavily prefer Android over Iphone, but the Iphone is still really good product. I hate Apple, too.
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I'm perfectly capable of being able to form my own opinion
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
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I'm perfectly capable of being able to form my own opinion
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
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the iPhone was the first. just like Cannondale in mountainbiking
alaman68 said:
the iPhone was the first. just like Cannondale in mountainbiking
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The ifail was the first to do what?
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
Do apple really have any rights to sue knowing they didn't even have an original design. Apple is a joke and so is the judge presiding over this case.
http://endlessparadigm.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=29488
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
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The ifail was the first to do what?
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
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making me crack another beer for this response, and loading another dip! give me five minutes
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The ifail was the first to do what?
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
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first off, i hate Yin and Yang discussions but since this is yet ANOTHER "apple sucks" discussion, lets look at it from your point of view. per your quote from endlessparadigm, Samsung released some garbage ass smartphones to compete with blackberry. Well, Apple then said "F U!" because blackberry blows donkey nuts and turned a phone into a smart device and had the actual "phone" as a simple app. By creating a phone function as a simple "application", the true definition of "smart phone" was defined. This device was not based on the phone alone, but additional apps that carried the same presidense for the end user that the phone did.
Because of this presidense, iPhone users began to use their devices on a regular basis for applications outside of the normal, everyday use of a cell phone. these users were downloading guitar tabs, angry birds, etc... to this device as a means of mobile communication through data cells. This exchange of data with other users led to others seeking the same interchangabililty for a "social" outcome.
As you identify our devices today, the majority of what we do is based on communication. whether it be facebook, twitter or sms, those are all simple applications Apple had the BALLS to integrate as core functions of their OS while others waited for someone else to do it, because they didn't believe it could be done.
Quote Frankly OP, if Apple didn't step the game up and did what they did, you would still be updating your Samsung Design.
The whole lawsuit lost its credibility when Apple claimed people would buy a Samsung device thinking it was an iPhone, at that point if I was the judge I would have thrown it out of my courtroom. If a person buys a Samsung phone thinking it's an iPhone then both phones are smarter than that person anyway, you would have to be a complete moron to make that mistake
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making me crack another beer for this response, and loading another dip! give me five minutes
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first off, i hate Yin and Yang discussions but since this is yet ANOTHER "apple sucks" discussion, lets look at it from your point of view. per your quote from endlessparadigm, Samsung released some garbage ass smartphones to compete with blackberry. Well, Apple then said "F U!" because blackberry blows donkey nuts and turned a phone into a smart device and had the actual "phone" as a simple app. By creating a phone function as a simple "application", the true definition of "smart phone" was defined. This device was not based on the phone alone, but additional apps that carried the same presidense for the end user that the phone did.
Because of this presidense, iPhone users began to use their devices on a regular basis for applications outside of the normal, everyday use of a cell phone. these users were downloading guitar tabs, angry birds, etc... to this device as a means of mobile communication through data cells. This exchange of data with other users led to others seeking the same interchangabililty for a "social" outcome.
As you identify our devices today, the majority of what we do is based on communication. whether it be facebook, twitter or sms, those are all simple applications Apple had the BALLS to integrate as core functions of their OS while others waited for someone else to do it, because they didn't believe it could be done.
Quote Frankly OP, if Apple didn't step the game up and did what they did, you would still be updating your Samsung Design.
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Yeah, iOS was sort of a pioneer for us. The ORIGINAL touchwiz does seem more or less a copy, but they did grow from that over the years.
The fact of the matter is, if apple wins, they'll have the ego to start going after more and more companies probably even google. Our OS is on the line atm, which is why alot of us our up in arms
I like to think of Apple as republicans, sure they had good intentions at the start, but they let the money and influence get to their heads. Like Republicans now a days, they go after anyone that's not them and kick em in the balls, partially for no right or reason.
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Apple and Republican being compared with similarities LMAO. Thats classic!!
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So Idk why everyone's being racist and saying the Chinese "cloned" and stole it from apple. Apple is highly known for stealing ideas from lower less known companys and then this Chinese company had this phone out way before iPhone 5.. Any discussion anyone?
Really had to make another thread on this.......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...ecs to Build Knockoff, Hopes to Sue Apple for
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This one is made for a different purpose. I'm wondering why everyone's being so racist.
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This one is made for a different purpose. I'm wondering why everyone's being so racist.
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I hope you're being funny man how does that make everyone racist lmao
The fact that everyone instantly assumes the Chinese company was the one who stole even thogb they had it before apple. Automatically assuming it's them without looking at any info.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but it would be this exact same way no matter what country a company comes from.
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Not really sure how it is racist...
And did they really come up with it on their own? It is still the same design as the iPhone 4, just bigger. It's a bit ridiculous.
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The fact that everyone instantly assumes the Chinese company was the one who stole even thogb they had it before apple. Automatically assuming it's them without looking at any info.
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I still hope this is a joke. First off, the chinese version was based off leaks of the actual iPhone 5. Secondly, making fun of a country isn't really racism unless your making their race specifically. Being from the US, if i made fun of canada, would you also call that racism? If i was of chinese origin with US citizenship and made fun of china would that be called racism?
I don't think this guy knows the definition of " Racist ".
Its the fact you guys think they stole it because either their Chinese or not apple.. and half of those leaked pictures are of the go phone.
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Its the fact you guys think they stole it because either their Chinese or not apple.. and half of those leaked pictures are of the go phone.
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we think they stole it cause, well, they stole it. It is an iPhone leak clean. That's what a lot of companies over their do because of their relaxed patent laws.
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we think they stole it cause, well, they stole it. It is an iPhone leak clean. That's what a lot of companies over their do because of their relaxed patent laws.
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If they stole it then how did they take their full year of making it before iphone 5 images where even leaked? then selling before apple.. no company can pump out a device from ground up in 2 months -_-
and for the record, im trolling over nothing >_> just discussion over this XD I cant see how the company stole it. Let the court settle it by comparing patent dates
Look up "trademark squatting" and you'll see it's a big thing in China. It has nothing to do with racism.
Also, yes, they can build a phone that quickly because they have the infrastructure to produce a product in a short amount of time.
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At this point who cares. I hope the Chinese company has a earlier patent than apple so apple loses money XD iPhone 5 could still be banned for the HTC law suit.. Idk the result of that though
eao1991 said:
Look up "trademark squatting" and you'll see it's a big thing in China. It has nothing to do with racism.
Also, yes, they can build a phone that quickly because they have the infrastructure to produce a product in a short amount of time.
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Bingo, that's the word. OP do you know how many knockoffs and lead based painted toys china has? A lot
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At this point who cares. I hope the Chinese company has a earlier patent than apple so apple loses money XD iPhone 5 could still be banned for the HTC law suit.. Idk the result of that though
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Obviously.....you do OP. I wish threads like these would go away. Every time I visit this forum, there's another new apple thread. This crap is starting to make me not want to visit XDA lately.
This is not the iPhone forum.
Please discuss other phones in the sticky
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