Confused about GB android vs GB CWM - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

I was looking to install Blu Kuban on my E4GT. In the video by QBKing77, he said to make sure you have a gingerbread custom recovery, does that mean I need to go back to the EL29 android version? or can I stay on the FF18 my phone is currently on, and there is a version of Clockwork that is purely Gingerbread based?

His video is a little dated.
Check my signature for a link to the faq with good install instructions. As long as you have a custom recovery you can use my instructions. You can flash from ics.
Pm me if you need any more clarification.

Ravaged Pheonix said:
His video is a little dated.
Check my signature for a link to the faq with good install instructions. Add long as you have a custom recovery you can use my instructions.
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I actually don't have any custom recovery, my phone is rooted though. The only android phone I've flashed ROMs to was the HTC Hero, and that was a while ago and was pretty simple. But for whatever reason I'm having trouble figuring out which Custom recovery to get and how to install it.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
Check here since you are already rooted. Then go to my faq.
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Or you could just flash the kuban kernel from odin. Its been so long since i had to go from stock rooted to a custom recovery. I would actually try the kuban kernel 1.8 odin install first and ignore the post above.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1826190

Ravaged Pheonix said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
Check here since you are already rooted. Then go to my faq.
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Or you could just flash the kuban kernel from odin. Its been so long since i had to go from stock rooted to a custom recovery. I would actually try the kuban kernel 1.8 odin install first and ignore the post above.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1826190
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Okay, so I didn't quite see this in time, but basically i flashed back to the Gingerbread EL29 version and used the E4GTauto file to put rouge recovery on the phone. I flashed the format zip that the faq says to flash, and then flashed the Rom.
I'm not sure if it's normal, but when it was sitting on the main menu finishing boot it kept going back to the boot animation, then the lock screen and kept saying 'searching for service.' It seems to be working now though. I'm not sure how I feel about Apex launcher so far, but that's what the Rom Updater is for .
I guess I should ask while I can, is there a specific modem that I should download in order to insure the GPS works? That's part of my main reason for flashing, I've never been able to get my GPS to work at all.

Modems are very device and location dependent. Try them all and see what works best for you.
Personally I have had the best luck with fg20,fh13 and fe22
Don't feel limited by the updater for launcher selection. Some good ics launchers are Holo launcher and atom launcher. I do find myself going back to apex most of the time though.

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[Q]How to update CM9? Can't flash CWM on ICS?

I'm sorry, Im confused. I have been searching and I have read 3 seemingly contradictory facts:
- NEVER flash CM9 with any other recovery other than clockwork mod
- NEVER use odin to flash clockwork mod on an ICS rom
- You can flash a newer version of CM9 over the old one
So i'm using CM9 RC0 and I would like to update to alpha2 without wiping. CWM disappeared when i flashed and I keep reading that its dangerous to use the stock rouge recovery. So I went to go use odin to get CWM back on but there is a warning to never try to load it using an ICS rom?
Where am I going wrong here? I really dont want to wipe and flash to a GB rom just so that I can use odin to get CWM and flash back to cm9.
Thanks, I just wanted to make sure i didn't ruin my phone!
drumstyk1 said:
I'm sorry, Im confused. I have been searching and I have read 3 seemingly contradictory facts:
- NEVER flash CM9 with any other recovery other than clockwork mod
- NEVER use odin to flash clockwork mod on an ICS rom
- You can flash a newer version of CM9 over the old one
So i'm using CM9 RC0 and I would like to update to alpha2 without wiping. CWM disappeared when i flashed and I keep reading that its dangerous to use the stock rouge recovery. So I went to go use odin to get CWM back on but there is a warning to never try to load it using an ICS rom?
Where am I going wrong here? I really dont want to wipe and flash to a GB rom just so that I can use odin to get CWM and flash back to cm9.
Thanks, I just wanted to make sure i didn't ruin my phone!
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What you want to do is flash the EL26 kernel with CWM through Odin. Once it's flashed and the phone starts to reboot, pull the battery. Put the battery back in, boot into recovery via Vol up+ power and then flash Alpha 2 over RC0, flash GApps and reboot. You should be good to go then.
Sent while hanging with that really hoopy frood Ford Prefect.
If you haven't already, I believe the OP has updated the steps fairly well here:
How Not to Brick Your E4GT
Flashing roms on Epic4gtouch is so complicated. I remember when I had my HTC hero. All you gotta do is download the rom, put it in your sdcard, open rom manager then flash xD
snapback2 said:
Flashing roms on Epic4gtouch is so complicated. I remember when I had my HTC hero. All you gotta do is download the rom, put it in your sdcard, open rom manager then flash xD
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This is a recent thing that started when the ICS leaks started coming. Before ICS, rooting and flashing this phone was as easy as any. It still is actually, but you have to be more careful, especially with any of the AOSP ROMs. It should be back to normal once the official ICS update is released and we get our hands on the source code.
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blackroseMD1 said:
What you want to do is flash the EL26 kernel with CWM through Odin. Once it's flashed and the phone starts to reboot, pull the battery. Put the battery back in, boot into recovery via Vol up+ power and then flash Alpha 2 over RC0, flash GApps and reboot. You should be good to go then.
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Worked perfectly! Hopefully you have helped many noobs down the road when they search for this. What threw me off was QBKings video when he kept warning to never flash EL26 on ICS. (Mad respect though, QBKing!). Thanks for clearing that up for me!
On a side note, yeah, things seem complicated. I know there is a good reason why CM9 doesn't include a good recovery but I hope as things develop we will eventually get back to the "Rom Manager" days. Man, our devs spoil us!

Odin Questions

Hi all, I'm new here (well, not to XDA) as I just purchased this phone 2 days ago. I love it so far. It's such and upgrade from my LG Optimus that I almost considered not rooting or flashing ROM's. Of course, I caved in last night.
Anyway, I have a couple questions regarding Odin and the process around flashing different kernels/modems, etc. Any help would be great. I successfully flashed Blue Kuban without issues as I'm familiar with CWM and all that great stuff.
1. Is there a good tutorial that I can use to do more research on Odin? I see there's a mobile version and a PC version, so I'm not sure which to use.
2. I see in some ROM's, the install instructions state to first flash a specific kernel with Odin. Is this to prevent bricks from flashing from ICS to ICS ROM's?
3. Hypothetically, if I wanted to switch from Blue Kuban to CM9 (or any other ICS ROM), couldn't I just restore my stock GB back up and then flash CM9 (or any other ICS ROM)? If not, what is the most user friendly method you use?
Thanks all, really glad I chose this phone, it looks like there's awesome development for it! Any help is greatly appreciated!
mjs2011 said:
Hi all, I'm new here (well, not to XDA) as I just purchased this phone 2 days ago. I love it so far. It's such and upgrade from my LG Optimus that I almost considered not rooting or flashing ROM's. Of course, I caved in last night.
Anyway, I have a couple questions regarding Odin and the process around flashing different kernels/modems, etc. Any help would be great. I successfully flashed Blue Kuban without issues as I'm familiar with CWM and all that great stuff.
1. Is there a good tutorial that I can use to do more research on Odin? I see there's a mobile version and a PC version, so I'm not sure which to use.
2. I see in some ROM's, the install instructions state to first flash a specific kernel with Odin. Is this to prevent bricks from flashing from ICS to ICS ROM's?
3. Hypothetically, if I wanted to switch from Blue Kuban to CM9 (or any other ICS ROM), couldn't I just restore my stock GB back up and then flash CM9 (or any other ICS ROM)? If not, what is the most user friendly method you use?
Thanks all, really glad I chose this phone, it looks like there's awesome development for it! Any help is greatly appreciated!
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1. OK for Odin, you can try searching for a tutorial on qbkings YouTube channel. Basically all you need to know is that the PDA slot is for kernels and such where as phone slot is for modems. Only have auto reboot checked in top right settings. Mobile Odin works the same way. You can flash kernels from there and can save you time and when you're away from a computer. It currently has problems flashing modems however. There is a paid and lite version which you can find here in xda if you search a bit.
2. Yes this is to prevent bricking which has been happening when wiping data/factory rest in custom recoveries repackaged in ICS kernels. This is why its recommended to go back to el26 because this is the last true source (we don't have ICS source yet) we had.
Whenever changing roms, you must Odin/mobile Odin the el26 cwm kernel and do any rom flashing, restoring, backing up from there. So if you want to switch to CM9 from the ICS version of Blue Kuban I'm assuming, Odin el26 cwm kernel and flash cm9+gapps there.
Anymore questions let me know
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Awesome, great info and I'll definitely pick up the mobile version. So it looks like I only need to flash the kernel, not actually flast a GB Rom?
The only other thing I'm wondering is if you recommend using the Rogue CWM Recovery. I have it installed right now. Are all ROMS compatible with this recovery?
Thanks again for your quick and helpful answer!
I personally use the rouge 1.4.1 kernel to do all my flashing. Rouge recovery is built from tweaking the cwm recovery. In essence, they are the same thing. Rouge has less "no's" and the menus are better organized, so I use it.
mjs2011 said:
Awesome, great info and I'll definitely pick up the mobile version. So it looks like I only need to flash the kernel, not actually flast a GB Rom?
The only other thing I'm wondering is if you recommend using the Rogue CWM Recovery. I have it installed right now. Are all ROMS compatible with this recovery?
Thanks again for your quick and helpful answer!
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Yea all you need is the kernel. If you're on an ICS rom when you flash the el26 cwm kernel, it won't boot your phone but you can go into recovery still.
I really wouldn't recommend any custom recovery at this time for ICS. I mean it takes maybe an extra minute odining the el26 cwm kernel or so instead of directly booting into rogue recovery. From there you can flash mods, tweaks, etc and then just reflash a compatible ICS kernel. What do you really need rogue for? Not worth the risk IMO.
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slick_rick said:
Yea all you need is the kernel. If you're on an ICS rom when you flash the el26 cwm kernel, it won't boot your phone but you can go into recovery still.
I really wouldn't recommend any custom recovery at this time for ICS. I mean it takes maybe an extra minute odining the el26 cwm kernel or so instead of directly booting into rogue recovery. From there you can flash mods, tweaks, etc and then just reflash a compatible ICS kernel. What do you really need rogue for? Not worth the risk IMO.
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Interesting. I'll have to read up more regarding Odin. So I could literally open Odin and plug my phone in and then flash the el26 kernel and flash whatever ROM I want from Odin as well? Sorry, a little confused there. Just not sure how I'd flash a ROM without a custom recovery.
Thanks again, I'll also check out some tutorials. I'm guessing it will feel like 2nd nature in a week, just learning the new process.
The recovery is built into the kernel for this device. I use odin, flash the el29 rouge kernel v1.4.1, when the phone resets after the flash, boot into recover using volume up and power, wipe, flash, whatever you want, make sure you reinstall ics rom or kernel if you are on ics and reboot.
Ah, so if I flash the EL26 Kernel, will that overwrite my Rogue Recovery?
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Interesting. I'll have to read up more regarding Odin. So I could literally open Odin and plug my phone in and then flash the el26 kernel and flash whatever ROM I want from Odin as well? Sorry, a little confused there. Just not sure how I'd flash a ROM without a custom recovery.
Thanks again, I'll also check out some tutorials. I'm guessing it will feel like 2nd nature in a week, just learning the new process.
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Well download whatever rom+mods/etc and put the files on your phone. Then just odin/mobile Odin the el26 cwm kernel and flash whatever you want from there, ICS or GB without no chance of a brick.
On our phone and I think most Samsung's for that matter, the recovery isnt separate from any other partition like with HTC. It must be packed into the kernel. So whenever you flash a rom, whatever recovery is packed in with that kernel included with the rom is what you're getting. Most devs are packing in stock Android recovery to cut down on bricks and instead recommend always flashing from el26 cwm kernel.
So yea that's what makes mobile Odin so great. Have el26 on your storage and you can switch roms very fast, easy, and safe.
Anymore questions just ask.
Edit: are you on GB or ICS Blue Kuban and what rogue also?
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Thanks, really good info. I'm on Blue Kuban ICS right now with Rogue CWM 5.0.2.7. Looks like Odin will be a very easy way once I get comfortable with it.
So basically, I'll put the kernel zip in the PDA slot in Odin and let it do its thing, then my phone will auto reboot into the kernel's recovery where I can flash the ROM? Or do I flash the kernel in Odin, and also flash the ROM in Odin as well?
mjs2011 said:
Thanks, really good info. I'm on Blue Kuban ICS right now with Rogue CWM 5.0.2.7. Looks like Odin will be a very easy way once I get comfortable with it.
So basically, I'll put the kernel zip in the PDA slot in Odin and let it do its thing, then my phone will auto reboot into the kernel's recovery where I can flash the ROM? Or do I flash the kernel in Odin, and also flash the ROM in Odin as well?
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Odin is just used to flash the safe el26 cwm kernel onto your phone. It will auto reboot and just hang at the Galaxy S II screen since the GB kernel can't boot an ICS rom so just power+volume up into it. Hold it for maybe up to 15 seconds but it'll come around. You then flash the rom in recovery from there. So put you rom files, etc on your phone before you Odin the kernel.
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slick_rick said:
Odin is just used to flash the safe el26 cwm kernel onto your phone. It will auto reboot and just hang at the Galaxy S II screen since the GB kernel can't boot an ICS rom so just power+volume up into it. Hold it for maybe up to 15 seconds but it'll come around. You then flash the rom in recovery from there. So put you rom files, etc on your phone before you Odin the kernel.
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oh ok sweet. That sounds pretty easy, actually! LOL! One last question hopefully, do I need to extract the kernel zip or do I just place the zip in the PDA slot?
Thanks again for your help today. It really cleared a bunch of questions I had.
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oh ok sweet. That sounds pretty easy, actually! LOL! One last question hopefully, do I need to extract the kernel zip or do I just place the zip in the PDA slot?
Thanks again for your help today. It really cleared a bunch of questions I had.
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Kernels flashed through PDA slot in Odin will be in either .tar or tar.md5 format, .zips are for cwm recovery only. You can find the el26 cwm kernel in the kernel repository sticky in dev section, its the first kernel listed. No problem, glad to help.
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or u can use the 34gt auto
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
Thanks again everyone. I successfully switched roms today with no issues.
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[Q] Installing ICS CWM

I just upgraded my E4GT Sprint from GB to ICS using the oneclick installer. I am trying to install the CODENAME rom from CWM but havng issues getting CWM installed. I used the the E4GT auto but FE16 isnt listed so i tried FE15 but it wont load into CWM. So i tried this link "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1390393" and flashed from ODIN and it goes into CWM but before it boots it says my phone is a gt-i9100 and has a ! on the bottom. It appears to boot though so i booted back into CWM and tried to flash the ZIP for CODENAME and the gapps file and it jsut gets stuck at the boot screen with the transformer logo. I cant get into CWM after that point and have to ODIN back to ICS. I am on ICS now and its working fine. Does anyone have any instructions on getting CWM installed and the codename rom from a fresh odin ICS install?
mazdaspeed6 said:
I just upgraded my E4GT Sprint from GB to ICS using the oneclick installer. I am trying to install the CODENAME rom from CWM but havng issues getting CWM installed. I used the the E4GT auto but FE16 isnt listed so i tried FE15 but it wont load into CWM. So i tried this link "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1390393" and flashed from ODIN and it goes into CWM but before it boots it says my phone is a gt-i9100 and has a ! on the bottom. It appears to boot though so i booted back into CWM and tried to flash the ZIP for CODENAME and the gapps file and it jsut gets stuck at the boot screen with the transformer logo. I cant get into CWM after that point and have to ODIN back to ICS. I am on ICS now and its working fine. Does anyone have any instructions on getting CWM installed and the codename rom from a fresh odin ICS install?
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You really should read more before hopping around like that without checking. Real risk for a brick here.
-Flash EL26 stock CWM kernel via the PDA option in ODIN/Mobile ODIN
-When phone begins reboot, Hold Power + Volume up until boots into recovery.
-Wipe data/factory, cache and dalvik cache
-Flash ROM
-Flash Gapps
-Reboot
Those are the instructions right from the developer's thread. This is an AOSP rom and it sounds like you're trying to install TW kernels.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1662295
This is the kernel repository. It links to each kernel where you can read further and find out if they are safe for flashing things.
Seems like you've done a bunch of stuff. But you really should do a whole bunch of reading first or you will brick your phone.
My suggestion would be to use sfhub's one-click http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705730 to get to a fully stock rooted device. Then use his autoroot package http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728 to add CWM (the lates in the package is FF11+CWM Agat I believe) then you can add Agat's latest kernel with CWM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721065
But I would be very careful when flashing ANY ROM; use the developers prefered method. Some recommend using EL26 CWM. Some a different recovery or procedure. Be especially careful with CM9 and AOKP builds to follow the directions there.
Good luck
So while i was waiting for a response i just went back to the stock GB using the one click install. I then used the autoroot package to install CWM and then restored my nandroid backup before i made in the very beginning. So my phone is back to a perfect state with GB and CWM installed. Can i just flash the ROM from CWM as is then? For some reason i thought it had to be "converted" to ICS and thats what started this whole mess. Things have changed since my old Evo
I just noticed that im running EL29 not 26...does that matter? When i try to flash that CMW EL26 stock root is when it gave me that gt-i9100 on boot and the ! at the bottom. Using the autoroot and choosing the EL29 Rogue is the only way i got it installed.
mazdaspeed6 said:
So while i was waiting for a response i just went back to the stock GB using the one click install. I then used the autoroot package to install CWM and then restored my nandroid backup before i made in the very beginning. So my phone is back to a perfect state with GB and CWM installed. Can i just flash the ROM from CWM as is then? For some reason i thought it had to be "converted" to ICS and thats what started this whole mess. Things have changed since my old Evo
I just noticed that im running EL29 not 26...does that matter? When i try to flash that CMW EL26 stock root is when it gave me that gt-i9100 on boot and the ! at the bottom. Using the autoroot and choosing the EL29 Rogue is the only way i got it installed.
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My friend some good suggestions above your post. Give yourself a day or two and do some reading prior to flashing. This way you may not end up at Sprint making up stories about why your phone wont boot up.
Let me just echo what everybody else has said, you're gotta read more. A lot more! If you're one goal is to get CNA in your phone I would recommend reading all of the very first post on that thread. They give step by step instructions.
If you need CWM there are several options to get it on your phone. Both sfhub and I have put together several one-click and automated options to get it on your phone.
One thing that hasn't been suggested yet but I would strongly encourage you to do is to read the "How Not To Brick Your E4GT" thread. It's sticked in the General section.
Good luck!
Two more things.
1) If you're going to ask for help give it a few minutes before trying something new. It takes people a minute to reply. Sometimes waiting that extra minute or two is all you need to be saved from bricking.
2) Don't be afraid to hit your thanks button for everyone who has offered advice already. I got them once for you but it might not hurt to do it again.

Is the Epic a fail when custom Rom installed? Questions? also can ICS be rooted?

Well new company gave me 20% Sprint discount and have become sick of my Tmobiles poor coverage. However I fear wimax might be sucky too here in Seattle. Anyway, long time member here and have been involved in the HTC Sensation and One forums. Both with very very stable roms and kernals.
I was excited to pick up a couple Sprint Galaxy epics and the guy at Sprint had his all rooted and claimed it was smoking fast.
However I came to this forum and see all kinds of complaints of loss of stability just from simple Root of the Epic? Also have not read any stable ICS roms and I have read all of the threads. Plus read this phone is very easy to brick under clockwork. With sensation we use Aroma and it rocks!
So before I move on, I am not looking to break rules on asking ROM questions. I simply would like some input on what ICS rom is stable and supported still as I see many devs have moved on the the sg3 here.
What kernal and radio or what you call modem is stable and how do you find what is for your phone match?
Lastly, what is safest way to ROOT and flash ROMS for this phone?
I did read the stickies but am still confused.
I may be just happy at first to simply ROOT and install the fix for Hot Spot Wi fi and go from there.
Thanks so much.
Not even sure if phones will arrive with stock ICS tomorrow or GB...
Ice
The SAFEST way to flash stock ROMs in case of emergency is using Odin.I've found both stock ROMs (GB & ICS) very stable, however I reboot my phone everyother day (windows habit).
This thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495 was my starting point.
rovar said:
The SAFEST way to flash stock ROMs in case of emergency is using Odin.I've found both stock ROMs (GB & ICS) very stable, however I reboot my phone everyother day (windows habit).
This thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495 was my starting point.
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First off thank you for your reply. Interesting, I have read ODIn maybe responsible for bricking many of these phones is that incorrect? Lots of what I found seeing the people are very unstable with the custom roms so far for ICS for this phone of course stock ICS will be here soon.is there the ability to just root the phone and leave the stock ics ROM and just run the sprint hot spot mod.
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iceshark said:
First off thank you for your reply. Interesting, I have read ODIn maybe responsible for bricking many of these phones is that incorrect? Lots of what I found seeing the people are very unstable with the custom roms so far for ICS for this phone of course stock ICS will be here soon.is there the ability to just root the phone and leave the stock ics ROM and just run the sprint hot spot mod.
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Odin never causes any bricks as long as the process is not interrupted. Most of the instability is caused by user error. From my experience, all fresh (by fresh I mean wipe data/cache and format system) custom ROM installs have been rock solid stable. Also, most network issues are fixed by updating profile/prl. Official ICS is already out, it is build FF18. Stock ICS will not normally have the hotspot mod. You will have to use a hack to install it yourself. If you want a stock ICS experience, use this odin package (reset user data) to odin your phone to pre-rooted FF18:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229
And here is your hotspot hack:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1760712
Nonetheless, I see no reason why you wouldn't just save yourself the time and flash a custom ICS ROM.
Imho, there isn't any ics custom rom as of yet that is 100% stable, glitch-free, and reliable. I would wait it out until more polished versions come out. If there is a pretty good one to try, i'd say the blu kuban.
revamper said:
Odin never causes any bricks as long as the process is not interrupted. Most of the instability is caused by user error. From my experience, all fresh (by fresh I mean wipe data/cache and format system) custom ROM installs have been rock solid stable. Also, most network issues are fixed by updating profile/prl. Official ICS is already out, it is build FF18. Stock ICS will not normally have the hotspot mod. You will have to use a hack to install it yourself. If you want a stock ICS experience, use this odin package (reset user data) to odin your phone to pre-rooted FF18:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229
And here is your hotspot hack:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1760712
Nonetheless, I see no reason why you wouldn't just save yourself the time and flash a custom ICS ROM.
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Thanks, I think we are on the same page with this!
So I just loaded the FF18 Full Restore and Samsung drivers as indicated in this thread,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1670110
I also tested after unzipping to a folder and the ODEN program comes up waiting for me to hook up phone I dont have yet till tomorrow.
I also watched this video and it seems very easy to do if this is correct process,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IL21F8Gfbs
Still some clarifying questions,
1. If my new phone comes with ICS already pushed to it. Do I simply still install FF18 to get root for the ICS rom?
2. If phone does not come with ICS will this install ICS and Root?
3. Do I need to use this or Caulkins to wipe data first before I do this process on phone out of the box new?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1670110
Also I am little nervous reading this post from SFHUB<, Is he saying not to do the above process thru the built in Odin recovery in the phone if it comes with stock ICS in it? What does this mean???
The Epic 4g Touch has a bug in it's emmc controller that can cause the /data partition to become inaccessible/unrecoverable sometimes thanks to the wipe process when flashing from ICS recoveries... DO NOT FLASH FROM ICS RECOVERIES!!!!
7/11/12 edit: In the FF18 source Garwynn has confirmed the presence of the offending code that triggers the emmc bug (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...1&postcount=32) meaning that it will eventually be safe to flash from ICS as long as the offending code is removed by the dev of the kernel/rom...
- Please see this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1525495) thread by xST4T1K which details how NOT to brick your device... It is slightly out of date but still very relevant... if you want a more technical understanding of what this emmc bug is and why this is happening you can see Sfhub's thread in general related to it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1644364 ). The OP contains all of the information that our users have been able to figure out about this bug... Be sure to thank these people, as their hard work has made it exponentially safer for all of us to flash ICS roms on our phones...
-Every ICS rom will have a flashing guide in it's dev thread, its HIGHLY suggested you read and reread the guide for the rom you want to flash and follow it EXACTLY, taking the extra time upfront to fully understand what you're about to do will save you alot of trouble going forward.
-Put simply though you will always want to ODIN or Mobile ODIN (mobile Odin is an app made by the dev chainfire, available in the play store, that allows you to preform Odin flashes from your phone without using a PC) the el26 Gingerbread kernel/recovery and flash any ICS roms from that. NEVER FLASH FROM AN ICS RECOVERY, THAT IS HOW BRICKS ARE MADE!!!! Also do NOT use Rom Manager or Touch recovery!!!!
- Currently there are some ICS recoveries that are thought to be safe to flash from thanks to the work done on the emmc bug. If one of these is included in your rom it will be noted by the dev in the rom thread, however the safest way is still just to Odin back to el26 in order to avoid any chance of bricking!
Next, once I do this FF!8 and have root and ICS. If I want to dabble in custom roms. I am guessing they are installed by CWM from file downloaded to root of SD card like normal. I do not find CWM touch for this phone anywhere. I am sure I am missing it. It seems from reading the exploit in ICS kernal is causing the bricks. So I am guessing to use SF hubs or Claukins data wipe before loading custom roms. Are we beating to the same drum here?
Will correct radio or modem be installed automtic with FF18 or custom roms? I see many threads just on modems.
Thanks and thanks for the hot spot mod.
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Imho, there isn't any ics custom rom as of yet that is 100% stable, glitch-free, and reliable. I would wait it out until more polished versions come out. If there is a pretty good one to try, i'd say the blu kuban.
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Thats what it seems from hours reading each ROM thread. Reminds me of the Sensation when GB and or ICS first leaked. Will most likely just root stock and go from there.
CWM is in the kernel. Current kernels such as chris41g's or AGAT's kernels have patched up recoveries that avoid the emmc bug, so they are completely safe. You should use calkulins format all before flashing a rom in CWM.
For odin, it wouldn't hurt to odin sfhubs wipe data/cache, but it's not necessary. As long as you use the reset user data odin package for FF18, it will take you to stock rooted FF18. Regardless of what rom your phone comes with, run that odin package. You don't need to worry about the modem either because it will install the latest one. Be sure to update your profile/prl in settings>about>system updates after.
If you want to try a custom rom, use odin to flash a kernel with cwm (agat's or chris41g's). Once you have a recovery, flash calkulins format all, and then the ROM of your choice. Modems are not installed through CWM rom zips. You'll have to flash a modem zip in recovery or odin a modem tar.
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CWM is in the kernel. Current kernels such as chris41g's or AGAT's kernels have patched up recoveries that avoid the emmc bug, so they are completely safe. You should use calkulins format all before flashing a rom in CWM.
For odin, it wouldn't hurt to odin sfhubs wipe data/cache, but it's not necessary. As long as you use the reset user data odin package for FF18, it will take you to stock rooted FF18. Regardless of what rom your phone comes with, run that odin package. You don't need to worry about the modem either because it will install the latest one. Be sure to update your profile/prl in settings>about>system updates after.
If you want to try a custom rom, use odin to flash a kernel with cwm (agat's or chris41g's). Once you have a recovery, flash calkulins format all, and then the ROM of your choice. Modems are not installed through CWM rom zips. You'll have to flash a modem zip in recovery or odin a modem tar.
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I was studying Sfhugs FF18 thread and it says I can do the one click root and then install option D and that puts in the FF18, with agats CWM. So is this more simple then flashing FF18 and then doing a flash for either chris or agat kernal with cwm?
Should I use Calkulins format before flashing FF18 from stock?
So when you guys flash new custom roms you have to flash current modem each time? or only if you want to have a more current one? Coming from HTC you only have to flash radio when its required to match a new base leaked. So little confused there too.
Thanks your help has been great!
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I was studying Sfhugs FF18 thread and it says I can do the one click root and then install option D and that puts in the FF18, with agats CWM. So is this more simple then flashing FF18 and then doing a flash for either chris or agat kernal with cwm?
Should I use Calkulins format before flashing FF18 from stock?
So when you guys flash new custom roms you have to flash current modem each time? or only if you want to have a more current one? Coming from HTC you only have to flash radio when its required to match a new base leaked. So little confused there too.
Thanks your help has been great!
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I know I personally use Mijjahz's "GOODNESS" ROM and it runs smooth. Many mods and add ons with more added daily. I flashed agat's 2.2 kernel because I don't like the 2.3 that version 16.6.1 comes with.
I also flashed FF18 over my EL26 modem. Modems don't change between flashing I believe. Those you update yourself. A lot of folks stay on EL29 or find something that works perfectly in their area.
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optimummind said:
Imho, there isn't any ics custom rom as of yet that is 100% stable, glitch-free, and reliable. I would wait it out until more polished versions come out. If there is a pretty good one to try, i'd say the blu kuban.
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not sure what you expect from a mobile os but I couldn't disagree more.... my experance on mijjahs goodness has been better and more stable than stock in every way, hell even cm9 and aokp are extremely reliable as well if you can live without dialer codes and prl/profile updates.... no software is ever going to be 100%.... I say flash away, you won't be dissapointed
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not sure what you expect from a mobile os but I couldn't disagree more.... my experance on mijjahs goodness has been better and more stable than stock in every way, hell even cm9 and aokp are extremely reliable as well if you can live without dialer codes and prl/profile updates.... no software is ever going to be 100%.... I say flash away, you won't be dissapointed
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QFT.
ICS ROMs are very stable at this point.
iceshark said:
Thanks, I think we are on the same page with this!
So I just loaded the FF18 Full Restore and Samsung drivers as indicated in this thread,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1670110
I also tested after unzipping to a folder and the ODEN program comes up waiting for me to hook up phone I dont have yet till tomorrow.
I also watched this video and it seems very easy to do if this is correct process,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IL21F8Gfbs
Still some clarifying questions,
1. If my new phone comes with ICS already pushed to it. Do I simply still install FF18 to get root for the ICS rom?
2. If phone does not come with ICS will this install ICS and Root?
3. Do I need to use this or Caulkins to wipe data first before I do this process on phone out of the box new?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1670110
Also I am little nervous reading this post from SFHUB<, Is he saying not to do the above process thru the built in Odin recovery in the phone if it comes with stock ICS in it? What does this mean???
The Epic 4g Touch has a bug in it's emmc controller that can cause the /data partition to become inaccessible/unrecoverable sometimes thanks to the wipe process when flashing from ICS recoveries... DO NOT FLASH FROM ICS RECOVERIES!!!!
7/11/12 edit: In the FF18 source Garwynn has confirmed the presence of the offending code that triggers the emmc bug (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...1&postcount=32) meaning that it will eventually be safe to flash from ICS as long as the offending code is removed by the dev of the kernel/rom...
- Please see this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1525495) thread by xST4T1K which details how NOT to brick your device... It is slightly out of date but still very relevant... if you want a more technical understanding of what this emmc bug is and why this is happening you can see Sfhub's thread in general related to it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1644364 ). The OP contains all of the information that our users have been able to figure out about this bug... Be sure to thank these people, as their hard work has made it exponentially safer for all of us to flash ICS roms on our phones...
-Every ICS rom will have a flashing guide in it's dev thread, its HIGHLY suggested you read and reread the guide for the rom you want to flash and follow it EXACTLY, taking the extra time upfront to fully understand what you're about to do will save you alot of trouble going forward.
-Put simply though you will always want to ODIN or Mobile ODIN (mobile Odin is an app made by the dev chainfire, available in the play store, that allows you to preform Odin flashes from your phone without using a PC) the el26 Gingerbread kernel/recovery and flash any ICS roms from that. NEVER FLASH FROM AN ICS RECOVERY, THAT IS HOW BRICKS ARE MADE!!!! Also do NOT use Rom Manager or Touch recovery!!!!
- Currently there are some ICS recoveries that are thought to be safe to flash from thanks to the work done on the emmc bug. If one of these is included in your rom it will be noted by the dev in the rom thread, however the safest way is still just to Odin back to el26 in order to avoid any chance of bricking!
Next, once I do this FF!8 and have root and ICS. If I want to dabble in custom roms. I am guessing they are installed by CWM from file downloaded to root of SD card like normal. I do not find CWM touch for this phone anywhere. I am sure I am missing it. It seems from reading the exploit in ICS kernal is causing the bricks. So I am guessing to use SF hubs or Claukins data wipe before loading custom roms. Are we beating to the same drum here?
Will correct radio or modem be installed automtic with FF18 or custom roms? I see many threads just on modems.
Thanks and thanks for the hot spot mod.
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you're quoting some of my new user guide here, and i haven't updated it since the OTA came out so it somewhat overstates the danger of bricking (not a bad thing really, made you read, didn't it!?) which was much easir to do before we got kernel source, since then agat63 and chris41g have been killin it in kernel development since they got ICS source... their ICS kernels are safe to flash from and can be found in the dev section, if you're on the stock FF18 rooted with stock kernel i would personally ODIN (mobile or desktop) back to EL26, and from there flash whatever custom ICS rom you like, as far as I'm aware all of the roms come with a safe kernel these days but do be sure to double check and flash one if it does not... at that point going forward should you wish to flash something else you can just do it via cwm as per usual without having to odin back to gingerbread....do note however that you can't use touchwiz kernels with AOSP roms, there asr safe AOSP kernels as well however...
edit: oops, just noticed revamper addressed most of this on the last page, to answer another one of your questions though you can try as many modems as you like and decide which one works best for you, its varies phone to phone and area to area... the modem is not at all required to match the build number of the rom, (example: may people still use the el29 modem with ICS) you can use ANY modem with ANY rom
Ive flashed this phone hundreds of times. Put your rom and any other zips you have on external card. Then to do a full clean wipe go to privacy. then factory data reset then check usb storage. You can skip this step, but this is how to get it factory fresh. Download the el26 cwm kenal. Its posted everywhere. Next open Odin go to pda and select EL26 cwm kernal. Uncheck auto reboot. Have battery cover off! Flash kernal pop battery out when it starts to boot. or says pass. then use the vol up and power combo hold them down until boot screen pops up then let off. Next flash calkulins wipe all or wipe no data. . Never brick never fail. Then flash your rom and tweaks and be happy. Ive done this driving down the road its that easy. Laptop sitting in passenger seat with odin up lol. Plus i drive a 5sp full size truck. Flashing is easy. Follow directions. There is nothing wrong with this phone just read directions if your a noob. I,ll be making multi scenario flashing youtube movies soon. Like mobile tech videos does.
Flashing is easy. Follow directions. There is nothing wrong with this phone just read directions if your a noob.
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That's all there is to say.

Install CWM from AOKP w/ TWRP

Hello,
Am presently running AOKP Milestone 6 with TWRP recovery & want to flash the Blazer ICS ROM. QBKing77 suggests flashing Blazer from CWM 5.0.2.7, but I'm not sure how to install CWM from TWRP. I am thinking I simply need to download the tar file to my SD card, then flash via Mobile Odin. Not sure that's correct or where that will leave me...
Also thought maybe I can flash CWM as a zip from TWRP. Again, not sure that's correct or where that will leave me either.
Any definitive help would be appreciated. Been reading for hours! Thanks so much!
I have the same problem/issue, would welcome some advice. Previously bricked (BLOD) now new phone, don't want to relive that experience.
snkycool said:
I have the same problem/issue, would welcome some advice. Previously bricked (BLOD) now new phone, don't want to relive that experience.
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Keep in mind though that this is the Epic 4G Touch forum. Looks like you might be running an EVO? Just a heads up...
not any more, profile up date. I was running a Blazer rom, then flashed another rom and did not pay attention and BLOD. Gonna stick w/Phantom ROM unitl this brick then getsfixed, but would love to use TWRP.
After some discussion in agats thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1767421), I decided on the following method of installing agat recovery & flashing the Blazer ICS ROM, & it worked like a charm:
1- download newest agat kernel from OP & install on sd
2- flash agat kernel using Mobile Odin
3- as soon as splash screen appears on reboot, pull battery
4- power up into new agat recovery, wipe, & flash ROM
On a side note, just to be super safe, I used Calkulin's Format All instead of manually wiping.
These are the steps simplified. If anyone needs more detail, just ask. Thanks! Hope that helps someone...
Thanks to QBKing77 for the many videos from which I gathered enough info to give this method a shot, & agat63 for your support!

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