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Is there anyway possible to improve the GPU performance on the HTC Desire? Cuz from what i know, the GPU performance on the HTC desire isnt really good. So is there any way to improve it?
GPU performance already IS improved. If you want to improve it even more, buy a new phone.
Thank you, Terepin, for such a helpful post! I suggest we make this the standard response for all new threads from now on: "buy a new phone!". Hell, we should even scrap the whole forum and just make a .jpg for the front page, saying: "buy a new phone!".
What would we do without you?
sebastianlow, install a ROM which has the GPU+ libraries integrated into the kernel. Those should boost 3D performance a bit.
I heard that russians connected a gtx 570 to the Desire with copper wires - and it was hell fast. Battery lasted 10 mins tough :/
But now seriously:
Kernel source is out, so new kernels coming should be improving it (if on Gingerbread).
GPU+ was for froyo, not. At least I could not see it on Sense kernels (2.3 +). BTW, AOSP roms have it integrated to thheir kernels already.
The thing is official kernel already has GPU+. Hence I said it already is improved. But yeah, GTX570 will do the trick.
Why not say that in the first place instead of a smartass comment?
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Why all the picking on Terepin?
You should be going after the op for posting a question in general and not q&a.
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davebugyi said:
I heard that russians connected a gtx 570 to the Desire with copper wires - and it was hell fast. Battery lasted 10 mins tough :/
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Mmmm 10 whole minutes of gloriously warm electronic smelling air!
Anyway, I saw this thread today. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1254272
It does mention GPU overclock to 83mhz. But i have NO idea what the original gpu clock is.. So.. maybe someone with more experience could check this out?
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Why all the picking on Terepin?
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Because the entire concept of xda community is built around people helping people. And more often than not I see
Terepin making wisecracks which are of no assistance to anyone, moreso it only belittles the OPs who are just in need of a little help.
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As I said, performance already is improved. And it was improved in custom kernel since FroYo. HTC included GPU+ in their GB for Desire. But OP would know that if he took the trouble to actually test it and to find info about.
You know, there is search feature for a reason. I'm not here to find out things for other lazy individuals. I do however help who deserves it.
Yeah you said that only after someone pulled you up on your wisecrack. I just think if you are gonna use energy to post something it might as well be constructive.
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Because the entire concept of xda community is built around people helping people. And more often than not I see
Terepin making wisecracks which are of no assistance to anyone, moreso it only belittles the OPs who are just in need of a little help.
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I know where you are coming from but I personally feel this place has little tolerance for n00bs. It is always expected that a certain level of knowledge is acquired...perhaps because every question has already been asked, i dont know...for friendly answers this is not the place i come, although i do try to give them
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I know where you are coming from but I personally feel this place has little tolerance for n00bs. It is always expected that a certain level of knowledge is acquired...perhaps because every question has already been asked, i dont know...for friendly answers this is not the place i come, although i do try to give them
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I agree and I think that's a bit sad really. This place has such an amazing wealth of information and intelligent members, it's the perfect place for a noob to learn all things android. Maybe the more skilled members need to stop being so high and mighty and remember that at some point in the past they too knew three fifths of nothing.
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As a noob myself I've found that the best way to find things out is to search for it, simply for the fact that I don't wanna get flamed for the fact that I'm starting a new thread that all of the experienced rooters and modders think is stupid.
There are a lot of great people on here who will help and give give constructive comments, but there are a lot of people also who think that everyone should know as much as they do and have a go at people for asking questions. Sure some people don't bother to find out even the very simplest things for themselves, and they deserve a bit of moaning at. But if someone has tried for themselves, and need a bit of help why not give it to them instead of simply being sarcastic.
I joined XDA to learn and to help others (if I can), and I thought that was the whole point of the site.
Some of us haven't been members forever or have the technical knowledge that some of you others have. Sometimes we need a helping hand.
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Yeah you said that only after someone pulled you up on your wisecrack.
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I said it in the first post.
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I said it in the first post.
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Maybe you did, but you didn't give an explanation as to how. As usual just a sarcastic remark thats not in any way helpful to anyone.
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zedmarcus said:
As a noob myself I've found that the best way to find things out is to search for it, simply for the fact that I don't wanna get flamed for the fact that I'm starting a new thread that all of the experienced rooters and modders think is stupid.
There are a lot of great people on here who will help and give give constructive comments, but there are a lot of people also who think that everyone should know as much as they do and have a go at people for asking questions. Sure some people don't bother to find out even the very simplest things for themselves, and they deserve a bit of moaning at. But if someone has tried for themselves, and need a bit of help why not give it to them instead of simply being sarcastic.
I joined XDA to learn and to help others (if I can), and I thought that was the whole point of the site.
Some of us haven't been members forever or have the technical knowledge that some of you others have. Sometimes we need a helping hand.
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Agree 100%
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Maybe you did, but you didn't give an explanation as to how. As usual just a sarcastic remark thats not in any way helpful to anyone.
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That's irrelevant. Explaining how is useless and unnecessary. The fact is it is improved. Telling why won't give him, us or anyone else any advantage whatsoever. End of story.
That's like saying gravity is there because it is. Or magnets work because they do. Usually people give an explanation for their findings, so their audience have a why or how associated with the answer. I guess this is irrelevant anyway as you are clearly not in the business of helping people, you're far more interested in trying to get cheap laughs. I've wasted enough time on this, out.
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He asked question, I provided him an answer. Its that simple. Don't try to find something that isn't there.
Hey. Wondering why cymod10 isn't getting work on it? Just curious how this all works. Thanks.
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source keeps on updating daily...
Once that is stable ul get full working cm10
patience bro
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Wut???
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So there is a group or team that develops the rom(aokp, cm10), and when they put new builds out individuals pick then up and do the writing necessary to run a partocular device?
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there's no "groups or teams" we BUILD CM10\AOKP\PA all from source i work on Base rom's which is CM9\CM10\AOSP when the CM* rom's get stable enough i pass them to maxwen and he finishes them off, which gives me free time to de-stress and spend time with girlfriend and work on other projects.
for CDMA JMZtaylor builds the Base rom's which are CM9\CM10
we work together......seeing threads like this drives me up the wall
Why would it drive you up a wall? Because I'm ignorant of what y'all do? I wish i could apologize for wanting to understand (sarcasm, mind you).
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Why would it drive you up a wall? Because I'm ignorant of what y'all do? I wish i could apologize for wanting to understand (sarcasm, mind you).
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Dude,
XDA is NOT a support site of any kind.
It is a forum for developers, yes it has grown massivley over the years, but in general most folks on here are at least kinda techie, geeky, or both. There are also many users who just want to download cool stuff. There is nothing wrong with that but devs get annoyed when "users" don't want to take the time to learn forum rules, read, or do a bit of research.
Every dev on here is a volunteer, they do what they do because they enjoy it, and like being involved in a community of like minded folk who know the devices we spend our cold hard cash on are usually capable of much more than manufacturers like to release. Yes, there are "teams" large and small but they do not get paid for this, work under deadlines, or are expected to provide any support.
I don't mean to sound too cold, but with a little reading and research you could have found out all you needed to know about the CM team, AOKP, etc AND read in Lior's dev thread that his build is UNOFFICIAL meaning not an officially supported device by the actual aokp team. Even if it were an officially supported device that would not mean timetables, support, or warranty. Seriously, do a little research.
And understand, when you joined in August what number were you? Did you watch the "you are a noob" video, I made my son watch that when he joined. There are LOTS of new people here who demand, are rude etc. I am not saying that you are necasarily one of them, but when each device can count the number of devs on two hands or less, compared to the number of registered XDA users and you can see how a dev like Lior could get upset at your lack of wanting to read.
In the future, until you have contributed to this forum please refrain from even using sarcasm with a respected dev. Read, learn, and I hope you enjoy XDA, but remeber it is a developer forum, not a noob support site.
Regards.
Edit: ahhhh, just realized I kept typing Lior, and not Lloir, my apologies Dude.
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This has gone about as far as it needs to.
So I've been looking around for any guides to teach me to dev some ROMs and I can't seem to find one that I can follow.
Would somebody be willing to help me learn?
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So I've been looking around for any guides to teach me to dev some ROMs and I can't seem to find one that I can follow.
Would somebody be willing to help me learn?
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which rom do you want to dev?
I was hoping to do one either based from or as close to the stock ICS as possible.
That would be awesome Matt. I myself have made a couple threads about a Rom or kernal from stock ics but none havent gotten any response from the devs, even though it seems there is much interest in it and that interest seems to be growing too. Myself, like you, would love to learn to dev to help our tiny little community out of anyone could be so kind as to set me in the right direction, especially since we're down to only a few devs and all our roms/kernels are cm based. Btw anyone know what happened to HoNo? His work was looking very promising but it's like he's fallen off the face of the earth
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That would be awesome Matt. I myself have made a couple threads about a Rom or kernal from stock ics but none havent gotten any response from the devs, even though it seems there is much interest in it and that interest seems to be growing too. Myself, like you, would love to learn to dev to help our tiny little community out of anyone could be so kind as to set me in the right direction, especially since we're down to only a few devs and all our roms/kernels are cm based. Btw anyone know what happened to HoNo? His work was looking very promising but it's like he's fallen off the face of the earth
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Yeah, I've seen your threads and I agree. That's sort of why I want to learn to dev a ROM. Perhaps if we collaborated on what we have found so far on the subject, we could figure it out somehow.
Not sure if I can find one of the stock ROM tutorials but if you want to start learning to dev you can start with CM to try and get the hang of it. Its a start and you can see if u can find an open source stock ROM to customize after the fact. But here's the link I found for CM custom building.
http://www.pressbyte.com/7667/download-cyanogen-compiler-build-custom-cyanogenmod-rom/
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I've found quite a few guides and tutorials for porting roms, but still kinda confused :what:. Would love to port some crazy roms to our phones. Heck, I would love to cook a rom too, but it all seems overwhelming :banghead:. Don't exactly know where to start, even though I already know about Chef Central. Is there any guides that describe things with easy to understand processes? Thanks in advanced everyone.
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Take a look at the links here, not necessarily porting but they come into play with anything android
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1941195
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I would love it if every rom posting would go back to the format of what is working and not...it is hard to keep flashing roms just to see what is working or not...plus I'm sure I'm wearing out my phone flashing 5 roms in a day just to find out they all have the same flaws or not or even if it was fixed..ie does video calling work, or hml, or any other feature that this phone can normally do...remember when devs use to have 2 lists in the op and pictures so you could window shop for your rom and not have to spend the time downloading, wiping and flashing just to restore your nandroid because you don't like the look or the fact some things don't work...it would really help and it only takes a couple of minutes.....thank all of you for your time and development of this device...
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I would love it if every rom posting would go back to the format of what is working and not...it is hard to keep flashing roms just to see what is working or not...plus I'm sure I'm wearing out my phone flashing 5 roms in a day just to find out they all have the same flaws or not or even if it was fixed..ie does video calling work, or hml, or any other feature that this phone can normally do...remember when devs use to have 2 lists in the op and pictures so you could window shop for your rom and not have to spend the time downloading, wiping and flashing just to restore your nandroid because you don't like the look or the fact some things don't work...it would really help and it only takes a couple of minutes.....thank all of you for your time and development of this device...
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Although I agree, your going tone other get zero response or (and more probable) catch flack about being demanding.
While typically, the android community development is free, everyone has became accustomed to the idea that eta's, change logs, working/not working lists are simply below them. Perhaps in their eyes it is. What I would like to remind everyone is this...time isn't limitless, and can be very valuable to some. If you don't like the community feedback (ie. Asking for these lists; small stuff) than maybe you should just (loosely) develop and/or cook ROMs for your own personal use. Xda is a community... A community built on knowledge, user base, and the good ol' boy system.
Just remember what we are here for. We all own a T989 and want to make our devices outlast even the newer models.
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The point I'm trying to make is that it would stop cluttering up all the threads with people asking if stuff works all the time when they can just read the op... I see countless people asking if stuff works because they don't know...
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The point I'm trying to make is that it would stop cluttering up all the threads with people asking if stuff works all the time when they can just read the op... I see countless people asking if stuff works because they don't know...
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You're assuming that people will read and thus not need to ask. As someone who spent over a year developing for the vibrant I couldn't even count the times that I either directed someone's questions to the op that contained the answer or just ignored the questions all together. Now as just an onlooker who casually flashes I read the op and if I don't see the answer I want I watch the thread and let others ask/answer or do my own research like checking out gerrit or just move on and find something else.
When I was building ROMs I would spend hours at the computer and by the time I got around to posting my work I may have forgotten one or two things so change logs were usually only partial.
Getting the latest software on your phone while free does take a little effort on the part of the user.
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You're assuming that people will read and thus not need to ask. As someone who spent over a year developing for the vibrant I couldn't even count the times that I either directed someone's questions to the op that contained the answer or just ignored the questions all together. Now as just an onlooker who casually flashes I read the op and if I don't see the answer I want I watch the thread and let others ask/answer or do my own research like checking out gerrit or just move on and find something else.
When I was building ROMs I would spend hours at the computer and by the time I got around to posting my work I may have forgotten one or two things so change logs were usually only partial.
Getting the latest software on your phone while free does take a little effort on the part of the user.
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I'm not asking for a change log just a simple list of what is working and not it's like 6 things and never really changes unless something is fixed...I think you guys are really missing the point...
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O and about the free thing I don't ask anyone to do this for us and I certainly don't expect it but if you are going do something for a lot of people than do it right...I do a lot of free things in my life...I'm a dj for 27 years in sfla and I have to spin for free most of the time because nobody wants to pay, but that doesn't mean that I am going to do a subpar job for all my fans just because I'm not going to get paid...I do it because I love it and if someone had a request I don't say well I'm doing this for free so too bad...I hate that argument you guys always use...and I donate where appropriate....
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I'm not asking for a change log just a simple list of what is working and not it's like 6 things and never really changes unless something is fixed...I think you guys are really missing the point...
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Have you ever touched computer code?
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Have you ever touched computer code?
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No but if you love to do it why complain...and what does that have to do with telling me if Bluetooth,etc is working?
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Well the reason this is happening is because 4.2 just came out. People are curious to know what works and what doesn't. Devs haven't had enough time to check all of the glitches and bugs. Devs also rely on us for fixing bugs because they don't always have the time to do it.
As per the same questions being asked over and over, people simply don't know what the search button does.
And yeah :thumbup:
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Well the reason this is happening is because 4.2 just came out. People are curious to know what works and what doesn't. Devs haven't had enough time to check all of the glitches and bugs. Devs also rely on us for fixing bugs because they don't always have the time to do it.
As per the same questions being asked over and over, people simply don't know what the search button does.
And yeah :thumbup:
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Wow! Someone just makes a basic request and gives thanks to developers, and suddenly everyone is all over him and getting all defensive about developers feelings or something. How did it turn into this??
I kind of agreed with the request as far as how nice it might be to know pros and cons of each rom without reading through pages and pages of useless posts in the dev threads to find out each detail. It seems to me that most developers appreciate it when more people are using their rom (and obviously people appreciate the rom they're using) sooo...it might help people to understand what they're flashing and they might be more likely to flash a rom that they understand from a end-user point of view.
If developers don't want to add a list of what works and what doesn't to the OP, then they don't have to. If developers want to help flashers in their decision-making process (and likely boost the number of people using their rom), then adding such a list might help.
As far as I can tell, that's the end of the story.
So if the Op doesn't state what's working, then people have the right to clutter threads and annoy them, right? Its a win win situation, unless devs like being asked the same question a billion times. It could help keep the clutter to a minimum but its up to the devs. Not that I'm demanding a perfect op, but there are reasons as to why people ask and ask.
1. Too lazy to read.
2. Fast response wanted(see 1)
3. Op doesn't state what's working.
4. Search doesn't always help( at least for me on the xda app.)
5. People want a solution.
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OP, your post has been noted and understood. But so that there isn't any bashing/flaming happening, closing the thread, as I removed a couple "not needed" type of posts already in this thread.
Thank You.