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All current 989 Devs, PLEASE READ!

I've been a "watcher" too long in this community. It's time to contribute back what I can.
I have a server doing nothing, and I'd love to waste as much bandwidth as I can.
If you're a developer for a ROM, and you'd like to have PHP, FTP, perl, sql, etc support, please reply to this thread or message me directly, and I'd be more than happy to get things set up for you ASAP. This is a new device, with a fantastic development community, and I think every developer deserves a chance for success. An email address, along with a website will help accomplish this for determined individuals. I don't plan on ever letting go of the domain names, or the server that I have.
Cheers you guys.
P.S. > Also, if someone wouldn't mind helping keep this thread active by posting articles or links to publishers with books available to teach me how to develop, that would be fantastic. I know this fits a little closer with "General", but its important, I think, that developers get involved in this, because of the huge possibility of misinformation.
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Great idea.
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Here's a good article to get started, from the man himself
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667298
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Good idea +1

I was really, really hoping this thread wasnt going to be moved to general, because now it is probably never going to be read by the developers. If by any chance you know someone who is developing roms for the sgsii, or how to get ahold of people who are, i would love to spearhead this project and get their hosting up asap. I would love to have a website for your rom, a central hub for tools, resources, and links, but i dont have any of the web development knowledge or background to even know what cms software would work best. Ive installed hundreds of vbulletin boards back in the day (when pirating vbulletin and ipb was fun). I know how to use cpanel very well, how to modify apache and php settings, and how to setup mysql, but i guess ive been out of the loop too long. Help me out guys. Lets get a website going for these awesome developers.
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Awesome +1
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Okay, perhaps a new approach. Would someone like to try and help me get a website going with all the important files for the 989? (ODiN, radios, stock roms, drivers, etc).

cellularticulate said:
Okay, perhaps a new approach. Would someone like to try and help me get a website going with all the important files for the 989? (ODiN, radios, stock roms, drivers, etc).
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If your looking for someone to gather and upload and get descriptions and such I would be happy to. If your looking more for someone to make zips and such that is a little out of my league.
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xsteven77x said:
If your looking for someone to gather and upload and get descriptions and such I would be happy to. If your looking more for someone to make zips and such that is a little out of my league.
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I think I'm going to need to install some sort of software on my server to host the downloads. Then the guides and descriptions all fall into place. I'm just not sure. I think it'd be a good idea.

I suggest posting on skyrockets (I727 sister device nearly identical) forum as well, in order to really stir interest...
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cellularticulate said:
I was really, really hoping this thread wasnt going to be moved to general,
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you might have not noticed, but the DEVs do read the General forum as well
in fact we keep asking people to keep the comments on General, unless they are of development value, then they should reply back to the DEV topic
but as usual newbies never listen

Broken ICS roms cluttering dev section

Is it just me or is there a sudden surge of broken ICS roms being released that don't rework? Am I the only person that find this annoying and cluttering the dev section. I mean I don't know about you guys but I don't wasn't to have to wade through countless broken roms to get to a working one. I mean what's the point of releasing something that doesn't even have basic functionality? You'r thoughts guys?
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Android Policeman said:
Is it just me or is there a sudden surge of broken ICS roms being released that don't rework? Am I the only person that find this annoying and cluttering the dev section. I mean I don't know about you guys but I don't wasn't to have to wade through countless broken roms to get to a working one. I mean what's the point of releasing something that doesn't even have basic functionality? You'r thoughts guys?
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Well, you see, they are previews. Other developers can get them as well, work on them, and all the devs work on the same project and it's most likly to be finished faster.

It's almost like they are in the development section because they are still being developed.

goldfingerfif said:
It's almost like they are in the development section because they are still being developed.
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OP is right. There should be closed QA process with closed Betas and maybe a carrier approval process.

goldfingerfif said:
It's almost like they are in the development section because they are still being developed.
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What?! That's an April fools joke, right? Cause there's no way those can still have work being done on them. I thought ROMs with no signal and odd auto rotations were normal.
On a more serious note I don't mind all the ICS ROMs in the dev section, as said they are still being worked on it's not like they drop 'em and abandon development on them. The devs will get a working kernel whether it's with T989 ICS source when it drops or not but I can only imagine how much time something like that can take even though it may seem simple to some
Now if it was just 1 dev crapping out the same threads I'd say that's cluttering up space

Android Policeman said:
Is it just me or is there a sudden surge of broken ICS roms being released that don't rework? Am I the only person that find this annoying and cluttering the dev section. I mean I don't know about you guys but I don't wasn't to have to wade through countless broken roms to get to a working one. I mean what's the point of releasing something that doesn't even have basic functionality? You'r thoughts guys?
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That's what I have been saYing! Pointless Garbage ICS Broken Roms!
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alphadog32 said:
Well, you see, they are previews. Other developers can get them as well, work on them, and all the devs work on the same project and it's most likly to be finished faster.
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I might agree if they weren't just kangs of a non working base. Atleast use one that you can make calls from imo. A rom that you can make calls from might make more sense. All I'm seeing is people taking raver x's base and retheming it. Meh I guess it is what it is lol!
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Android Policeman said:
I might agree if they weren't just kangs of a non working base. Atleast use one that you can make calls from imo. A rom that you can make calls from might make more sense. All I'm seeing is people taking raver x's base and retheming it. Meh I guess it is what it is lol!
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You dont know what youre talking about because xravers rom is AOSP and all the other ICS Roms are not AOSP.
EDIT: I guess you are referring to the MIUI port since its the only AOSP base ICS rom.
a) thats an alpha of a MIUI port ie nobody promised for it to be fully working
b) xraver was looking for someone else to take that project on.

Android Policeman said:
Is it just me or is there a sudden surge of broken ICS roms being released that don't rework? Am I the only person that find this annoying and cluttering the dev section. I mean I don't know about you guys but I don't wasn't to have to wade through countless broken roms to get to a working one. I mean what's the point of releasing something that doesn't even have basic functionality? You'r thoughts guys?
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That's the whole point of the 'development' section. XDA was meant to be a website for developers to help each other develop. The influx of smartphone availability brought people like you thinking the world revolves around them and every dev caters to what they want. That's why the moderators are so anal about people not posting things related to development within the development threads.
Mods, please delete this thread. Ego-centric newbie that doesn't understand the purpose of the forum.

Android Policeman said:
Is it just me or is there a sudden surge of broken ICS roms being released that don't rework? Am I the only person that find this annoying and cluttering the dev section. I mean I don't know about you guys but I don't wasn't to have to wade through countless broken roms to get to a working one. I mean what's the point of releasing something that doesn't even have basic functionality? You'r thoughts guys?
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Besides the MIUI and AOSP (lack data but still being worked on) the other ICS roms are not broken they work fine minus a bug here and there (auto rotation)
So no I do not see it cluttered

Melon_Bread said:
Besides the MIUI and AOSP (lack data but still being worked on) the other ICS roms are not broken they work fine minus a bug here and there (auto rotation)
So no I do not see it cluttered
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Agreed
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Well, that is what you get coming to a development site, expecting to be spoon fed a working ROM as soon as you get here ...
This is not Pimpmyphone.com it is a development site, I don't think it is all the ICS ROMs that are the clutter, I think it is all the NOOBS and people who don't care to learn that are cluttering up the place ...

What the hell are you talking about broken.The only true issue with the i.c.s roms is the auto rotation.That is a kernel issue and is being worked on.In my option these i.c.s roms run better than some G.B.roms IMO.People everyday posted about i.c.s Leak or TMobile said that about it or I'm reading about it's coming.Well we are here,let's help these guys produce the best product for our phones.
FROM A GALAXY BETTER THAN YOURS.

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Is that an April fools joke? I have been going to xda-fullyworkingroms and it redirects me here now. Damn these devs that can't get leaked roms without source code working in a week. Foxconn wouldn't allow this, back to the XDA dormatories.

Were cluttering xda with more cry baby topics. If you read the descriptions you will see the bugs, no questions asked. Grow up or get an iphone.
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Why don't you appreciate what you have? You try to get make a AOSP build. Or an AOSP build from a TouchWIZ kernel. Or at least modify framework.jar or Res to get stuff working. You haven't done any of that. You will see how hard it is. Just enjoy the little things.

What the... The OP was probably the one crying about that we don't have ICS...now we have it and people still complain. it hasn't been out that long. relax and let the Dev's develop the ROM in the development section....sheesh!
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You ungrateful child.

Its kids like this that end up causing devs to abandon their roms... its so sad. I hope the original poster may learn what exactly xda is about. We are a development community. There should never be closed locked betas. Developers share their work to everybody so we can all make progress. No matter what phone it is never ever criticize the developers who are making YOUR phone better.
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[Q] Bug free roms

Can you guys please help me find a ROM (4.x.x) that is completely bug free? I had to ask this question because I wanted to upgrade from a long time ( I am on 2.3.3 phantom rom) to ICS or JB but all I could find is either alpha or beta version of roms. Most other are direct derivatives of these buggy versions. Something does not work or something is broken in most of them from what I read. So if you can help me by suggesting some roms that I can upgrade to with out experiencing bugs that would help me. Thanks!

Seriously? In before the lock...
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Mattix724 said:
Seriously? In before the lock...
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I am sorry but I did not get that... Are you suggesting that this is not a good question? Well can you suggest me some rom with minimum bugs at least? Thanks.

Simple and straightforward answer. There's NONE. With less bugs you should ask.
Try some, if you like keep it, if not keep trying. Doesn't hurt to do some tries and research.
But seriously: In Before The Lock. :beer:
Would like to add: wrong section.
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IB4L :thumbup:
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sandred said:
Can you guys please help me find a ROM (4.x.x) that is completely bug free? I had to ask this question because I wanted to upgrade from a long time ( I am on 2.3.3 phantom rom) to ICS or JB but all I could find is either alpha or beta version of roms. Most other are direct derivatives of these buggy versions. Something does not work or something is broken in most of them from what I read. So if you can help me by suggesting some roms that I can upgrade to with out experiencing bugs that would help me. Thanks!
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Lightweight.
Edit:- I just got upset PMs from rest of developers. See why this threads are no good?

BluesRulez said:
Lightweight.
Edit:- I just got upset PMs from rest of developers. See why this threads are no good?
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Very mature indeed. I am sorry for bringing this up and posting it here. Thanks for all the help.

sandred said:
Very mature indeed. I am sorry for bringing this up and posting it here. Thanks for all the help.
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If you want a stable and full functional JB flash FL16 o GA10
If lyou like AOSP flash a CM or AOKP flavor there are other (note there are various bugs nothing big if you can deal with it.
If you like Stock modified too many to mention one but a heard a kuban named rom is awesome.
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Wow.. I'm pretty disappointed at the negative comments here.
Don't flame it is against XDA rules, no matter what the question is.
Thread moved to Q&A.

Any of the new jb leaks fk23 thru ga10 are pretty good dd if your looking for something along the lines of touchwiz based roms if you like something different then you can try out cm10.1 which Im reading has very good feed back its all about your preferences on what you do with your phone if you like playing with tweaks or if your just someone that wants a simple phone to make calls on ect ect. Theres alot of roms out there that have minimum issues my suggestion is look thru the threads check out the screenshots if it looks like something you may want to run do some light reading thru the thread and see what people are reporting as far as issues.
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The-Captain said:
Wow.. I'm pretty disappointed at the negative comments here.
Don't flame it is against XDA rules, no matter what the question is.
Thread moved to Q&A.
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Sorry you feel that way.
But in the history of the e4gt forums, such threads have not been very fruitful.
Few reasons..
-A bug I experience with a particular ROM, may not be experienced by someone else.
-Something not working on a ROM such as MHL on a rom may not be a big deal for me but may be a "major" bug for someone else.
-Lastly not all developers think alike and some may not be happy when their ROM is not mentioned in such threads..
Thats why such threads are always closed by Mods in this forum. Thus all the negative comments.

Im pretty happy with the one click oden FL16, i might try out the new version. If you want working wimax stick with stock/ touchwiz roms. All ASOP, AKOP, CM10, CM10.1 roms say there 4g works. but really all it does is turn on and look like it works. You will only experience blazing speeds of 750k.

BluesRulez said:
Sorry you feel that way.
But in the history of the e4gt forums, such threads have not been very fruitful.
Few reasons..
-A bug I experience with a particular ROM, may not be experienced by someone else.
-Something not working on a ROM such as MHL on a rom may not be a big deal for me but may be a "major" bug for someone else.
-Lastly not all developers think alike and some may not be happy when their ROM is not mentioned in such threads..
Thats why such threads are always closed by Mods in this forum. Thus all the negative comments.
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While I understand that, the better way instead of filling this thread with negative comments is to explain that. Then after that, you could report it and link to a thread discussing it :good:

I like cm10.1 right now. If you want something pretty bug free and easy to install get the fk23 or ga10 one clicks. They are pretty much test otas from what I can tell and work well. They are tw based but they got a lot of the ICS and Jb features.
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[Q] Looking to port

I've found quite a few guides and tutorials for porting roms, but still kinda confused :what:. Would love to port some crazy roms to our phones. Heck, I would love to cook a rom too, but it all seems overwhelming :banghead:. Don't exactly know where to start, even though I already know about Chef Central. Is there any guides that describe things with easy to understand processes? Thanks in advanced everyone.
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Take a look at the links here, not necessarily porting but they come into play with anything android
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1941195
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To all devs

I would love it if every rom posting would go back to the format of what is working and not...it is hard to keep flashing roms just to see what is working or not...plus I'm sure I'm wearing out my phone flashing 5 roms in a day just to find out they all have the same flaws or not or even if it was fixed..ie does video calling work, or hml, or any other feature that this phone can normally do...remember when devs use to have 2 lists in the op and pictures so you could window shop for your rom and not have to spend the time downloading, wiping and flashing just to restore your nandroid because you don't like the look or the fact some things don't work...it would really help and it only takes a couple of minutes.....thank all of you for your time and development of this device...
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I would love it if every rom posting would go back to the format of what is working and not...it is hard to keep flashing roms just to see what is working or not...plus I'm sure I'm wearing out my phone flashing 5 roms in a day just to find out they all have the same flaws or not or even if it was fixed..ie does video calling work, or hml, or any other feature that this phone can normally do...remember when devs use to have 2 lists in the op and pictures so you could window shop for your rom and not have to spend the time downloading, wiping and flashing just to restore your nandroid because you don't like the look or the fact some things don't work...it would really help and it only takes a couple of minutes.....thank all of you for your time and development of this device...
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Although I agree, your going tone other get zero response or (and more probable) catch flack about being demanding.
While typically, the android community development is free, everyone has became accustomed to the idea that eta's, change logs, working/not working lists are simply below them. Perhaps in their eyes it is. What I would like to remind everyone is this...time isn't limitless, and can be very valuable to some. If you don't like the community feedback (ie. Asking for these lists; small stuff) than maybe you should just (loosely) develop and/or cook ROMs for your own personal use. Xda is a community... A community built on knowledge, user base, and the good ol' boy system.
Just remember what we are here for. We all own a T989 and want to make our devices outlast even the newer models.
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The point I'm trying to make is that it would stop cluttering up all the threads with people asking if stuff works all the time when they can just read the op... I see countless people asking if stuff works because they don't know...
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djtheraven said:
The point I'm trying to make is that it would stop cluttering up all the threads with people asking if stuff works all the time when they can just read the op... I see countless people asking if stuff works because they don't know...
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You're assuming that people will read and thus not need to ask. As someone who spent over a year developing for the vibrant I couldn't even count the times that I either directed someone's questions to the op that contained the answer or just ignored the questions all together. Now as just an onlooker who casually flashes I read the op and if I don't see the answer I want I watch the thread and let others ask/answer or do my own research like checking out gerrit or just move on and find something else.
When I was building ROMs I would spend hours at the computer and by the time I got around to posting my work I may have forgotten one or two things so change logs were usually only partial.
Getting the latest software on your phone while free does take a little effort on the part of the user.
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You're assuming that people will read and thus not need to ask. As someone who spent over a year developing for the vibrant I couldn't even count the times that I either directed someone's questions to the op that contained the answer or just ignored the questions all together. Now as just an onlooker who casually flashes I read the op and if I don't see the answer I want I watch the thread and let others ask/answer or do my own research like checking out gerrit or just move on and find something else.
When I was building ROMs I would spend hours at the computer and by the time I got around to posting my work I may have forgotten one or two things so change logs were usually only partial.
Getting the latest software on your phone while free does take a little effort on the part of the user.
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I'm not asking for a change log just a simple list of what is working and not it's like 6 things and never really changes unless something is fixed...I think you guys are really missing the point...
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O and about the free thing I don't ask anyone to do this for us and I certainly don't expect it but if you are going do something for a lot of people than do it right...I do a lot of free things in my life...I'm a dj for 27 years in sfla and I have to spin for free most of the time because nobody wants to pay, but that doesn't mean that I am going to do a subpar job for all my fans just because I'm not going to get paid...I do it because I love it and if someone had a request I don't say well I'm doing this for free so too bad...I hate that argument you guys always use...and I donate where appropriate....
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djtheraven said:
I'm not asking for a change log just a simple list of what is working and not it's like 6 things and never really changes unless something is fixed...I think you guys are really missing the point...
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Have you ever touched computer code?

algorhythm said:
Have you ever touched computer code?
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No but if you love to do it why complain...and what does that have to do with telling me if Bluetooth,etc is working?
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Well the reason this is happening is because 4.2 just came out. People are curious to know what works and what doesn't. Devs haven't had enough time to check all of the glitches and bugs. Devs also rely on us for fixing bugs because they don't always have the time to do it.
As per the same questions being asked over and over, people simply don't know what the search button does.
And yeah :thumbup:
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Koragg618 said:
Well the reason this is happening is because 4.2 just came out. People are curious to know what works and what doesn't. Devs haven't had enough time to check all of the glitches and bugs. Devs also rely on us for fixing bugs because they don't always have the time to do it.
As per the same questions being asked over and over, people simply don't know what the search button does.
And yeah :thumbup:
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Very well said
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Wow! Someone just makes a basic request and gives thanks to developers, and suddenly everyone is all over him and getting all defensive about developers feelings or something. How did it turn into this??
I kind of agreed with the request as far as how nice it might be to know pros and cons of each rom without reading through pages and pages of useless posts in the dev threads to find out each detail. It seems to me that most developers appreciate it when more people are using their rom (and obviously people appreciate the rom they're using) sooo...it might help people to understand what they're flashing and they might be more likely to flash a rom that they understand from a end-user point of view.
If developers don't want to add a list of what works and what doesn't to the OP, then they don't have to. If developers want to help flashers in their decision-making process (and likely boost the number of people using their rom), then adding such a list might help.
As far as I can tell, that's the end of the story.

So if the Op doesn't state what's working, then people have the right to clutter threads and annoy them, right? Its a win win situation, unless devs like being asked the same question a billion times. It could help keep the clutter to a minimum but its up to the devs. Not that I'm demanding a perfect op, but there are reasons as to why people ask and ask.
1. Too lazy to read.
2. Fast response wanted(see 1)
3. Op doesn't state what's working.
4. Search doesn't always help( at least for me on the xda app.)
5. People want a solution.
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OP, your post has been noted and understood. But so that there isn't any bashing/flaming happening, closing the thread, as I removed a couple "not needed" type of posts already in this thread.
Thank You.