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[REQ] Minimal Elegance

bcparker over at sdx-developers has created a simply amazing samsung moment theme called minimal elegance. Anyone interested in porting it? I tried using some of the autoporting scripts with no luck so far.
I'd post a link but I don't have permission yet... haven't been a member of the forum long enough.

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That's one sexy theme. Can't post links either sorry.
I particularly like the dialer.

I can always be persuaded 2 people wanting the same thing use not enuff
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That's a nice theme. I'd request this too.

nice i want

Me want this as welll. Pretty please
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Thanks to everyone expressing interest. If any of you could post the link to the sdx board (like I said can't yet) that might help drum up some interest.
Much thanks!
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here is your link sir
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/theme-files/(bcparker)-minimal-elegance-v4-released!/
looks really nice!

with all the recent b/s going on with my theme i choose not to dev, port anything for android anymore.

@venumx
Thanks for the link!
@mysteryemotionz
I'm very sorry you had a poor experience. My quick search didn't find the issues you referred to, but I have seen instances of members acting ungrateful in the ROM/customization community, and it upsets me every time. The developers are creating all this and giving it to the users for free. There's no reason for complaints. If I don't like something, I simply don't use it. I still appreciate someone took the time to give me another option. If that wasn't your experience I apologize on behalf of everyone involved. Much thanks for what you did contribute before you were convinced otherwise.
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@venumx
Thanks for the link!
@mysteryemotionz
I'm very sorry you had a poor experience. My quick search didn't find the issues you referred to, but I have seen instances of members acting ungrateful in the ROM/customization community, and it upsets me every time. The developers are creating all this and giving it to the users for free. There's no reason for complaints. If I don't like something, I simply don't use it. I still appreciate someone took the time to give me another option. If that wasn't your experience I apologize on behalf of everyone involved. Much thanks for what you did contribute before you were convinced otherwise.
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look in my themes thread. also look in the baked snack thread where it all started.
not everyone is like you and expect everything for free. use devolpers do this has a hobby and dont ask for a dime. yes we have donation links but we dont force you to donate to use are product. ive s[ent well over 30 hours alone working on my theme and thats with the help i recived from others. why should i continue my work if people are going to be un gratefull about it

does look pretty

General Discussion-Bootloader petition and donations

Figured I'd start a general discussion thread about the petition to Acer and also about raising the bounty to interest more devs.
We can discuss these things in here rather than polluting other threads

Will be donating what I can the beginning of Feb.
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willing to donate as well

Awesome! Thanks guys!
I don't expect we'll get thousands but anything will help. If we can even raise enough for one device to get it to a dev, that would be awesome!
On another note, we seem to be doing well with the petition so far! Tell your friends, share on Facebook, make sure you "like" it which makes it go viral in other people's feeds etc!

I signed the petition already, but I don't know how much a dev can do to specifically unlocking a bootloader. I understand the bootloader is encrypted, which means that unless we have they key we won't be able to boot our own custom roms flashed through recovery. Although I have been following on my Droid3 forums about how devs have created some workaround solutions for using the stock bootloader and somehow getting around it, although I believe it is more complicated than that. The user Hashcode knows a lot about that sort of stuff on the motorola droid platforms. I'm not sure how much he can help but it might be a good starting point?
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I gotta get in front of a real computer so I can donate a few bucks.
Can somebody reach out to Hashcode, he might be willing to help out.
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Can somebody reach out to Hashcode, he might be willing to help out.
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Done! PM'd him.

Becoming a ROM Developer?

I've wanted to create my own ROMs for a while since I had my old Evo but didn't get around to it. I know that the easiest and most common way for newbies is through the Android Kitchen but I've read that the kitchen is meant mostly for HTC phones and the initial list that I saw here on XDA (updated in Summer 2012) does not include our Galaxy SIII. It does include almost all of the other Galaxy models. I also read something about YAFFS having something to do with the kitchen too, that most high-end devices don't include this which is a reason why the program doesn't support our devices.
Anyway, I have read that there is a possibility that it was supported or there was a file that I could use for it. So I was wondering if this was a method through Android Kitchen or another way of creating a custom ROM.

Do some research on "Aroma Installer". Also, pm a developer of a rom that you find stable. Ask them if you can use their rom as a base. That is a great place to start. Even before you ask, just download a rom. You can load it on your device, modify it on your phone, and zip it up. Just do not post it for anyone else's use without asking the developer. If you don't want to use another developers work, start with stock as your base. I strongly recommend that you start there, gain some knowledge, do a ton of reading, and report back after. For the most part, developers are very friendly and willing to help. However, they don't want to teach you the basics or the lingo. I build my own roms, just for me. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
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Do some research on "Aroma Installer". Also, pm a developer of a rom that you find stable. Ask them if you can use their rom as a base. That is a great place to start. Even before you ask, just download a rom. You can load it on your device, modify it on your phone, and zip it up. Just do not post it for anyone else's use without asking the developer. If you don't want to use another developers work, start with stock as your base. I strongly recommend that you start there, gain some knowledge, do a ton of reading, and report back after. For the most part, developers are very friendly and willing to help. However, they don't want to teach you the basics or the lingo. I build my own roms, just for me. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
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Thank you very much for the helpful post! I kind of figured it was just modifying existing ROMs. But I'll check out that Aroma Installer and see what I come up with.

ndh777 said:
Thank you very much for the helpful post! I kind of figured it was just modifying existing ROMs. But I'll check out that Aroma Installer and see what I come up with.
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Well alot of the times people join a team and get taught the ways of making a rom!!!!!! Im going to be doing a team memeber Search soon. alot of Team rejectz memebers are still in SGS2 section and we need some over in this thread

That's something I thought about doing lately. I've been flashing roms for years but never attempted to build a rom. Maybe time to do some research!
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lorjay589 said:
Well alot of the times people join a team and get taught the ways of making a rom!!!!!! Im going to be doing a team memeber Search soon. alot of Team rejectz memebers are still in SGS2 section and we need some over in this thread
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I actually have an idea for you guys. If you want my help, I'm willing. Create an amazing stable rom, and create themes for the most popular NFL teams. Then, package it as the NFL lovers rom and include nfl apps and game watching tools. That's a big market.
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lorjay589 said:
Well alot of the times people join a team and get taught the ways of making a rom!!!!!! Im going to be doing a team memeber Search soon. alot of Team rejectz memebers are still in SGS2 section and we need some over in this thread
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I would love to learn! I'm eager to! pm me.
Devices:
Samsung Galaxy S3
Asus Transformer
Motorola DroidX
Motorola Droid Bionic
Motorola Droid 1
Motorola Cliq
Please Visit www.teendroid.com

I think part of being a developer is knowing what forum section to ask a questions. LOL.. Just saying

mnhertz26 said:
I actually have an idea for you guys. If you want my help, I'm willing. Create an amazing stable rom, and create themes for the most popular NFL teams. Then, package it as the NFL lovers rom and include nfl apps and game watching tools. That's a big market.
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Lol thats what i was doing for football season Ugh lol you let the cat out of the bag. I have a rom out Called "The Ultimate Rom" which will change with the seasons. But for Thanksgiving I was going to drop an Update called the "Turkey Bowl", Where Im dropping Icons, and colors to match your fav team

Read forumn rules and stickies before posting
Questions go in Q&A
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I apologize for posting in the wrong forum. I'll make sure to read the rules more carefully before posting next time.

lorjay589 said:
Well alot of the times people join a team and get taught the ways of making a rom!!!!!! Im going to be doing a team memeber Search soon. alot of Team rejectz memebers are still in SGS2 section and we need some over in this thread
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I've seen these teams across various communities and scenes but I'm curious in what sorts of ways do each member in team contribute to the overall project? Is it like a construction site where you have a welder, crane operator, etc. where each person does a different job or is it something different?
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I actually have an idea for you guys. If you want my help, I'm willing. Create an amazing stable rom, and create themes for the most popular NFL teams. Then, package it as the NFL lovers rom and include nfl apps and game watching tools. That's a big market.
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That sounds easy enough. Thank you!

ndh777 said:
I've seen these teams across various communities and scenes but I'm curious in what sorts of ways do each member in team contribute to the overall project? Is it like a construction site where you have a welder, crane operator, etc. where each person does a different job or is it something different?
well i look at it like this, Im the founder of Team Rejectz but this isn't a pyramid or some type of dictatorship, nor will you be judged for being new. we're more like family and all though some of us have our own projects we still look out for each other and teach each other what ever we learn or know. Its always good to know that if you ever need help with something, there's a teammate a text a way or call, to help you out and make sure your getting the right info and not some imitation developing.
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Why is wild child jb rom locked?

Just noticed its been locked for ever... The one with jb aroma... What's wrong with it?
I haven't seen any of his work lately, just curious...
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I'm not sure either but apparently, wld child kanged Wicked ROM.
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Noobiologist said:
I'm not sure either but apparently, wld child kanged Wicked ROM.
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So is he banned now or something?
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Crisisx1 said:
So is he banned now or something?
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Yeah, probably. That's what usually happens.
Powered by the SGSIII

he's still deving
See note 2 development
I think he still devs for us, too
Just not that Rom
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Give credit where credit is due. Should be xda motto lol
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chrisram88 said:
Give credit where credit is due. Should be xda motto lol
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He should have just added some credits. His roms were better than those he "borrowed" from. He also updated far more frequently and was always responding to questions.
What a shame.

xManMythLegend said:
He should have just added some credits. His roms were better than those he "borrowed" from. He also updated far more frequently and was always responding to questions.
What a shame.
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He knew how things work around xda rules are rules its not because hes a dev he could do what pleased him..
B4NN3D.
Not to be a **** or anything i loved his rom but still ...
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shahkam said:
He knew how things work around xda rules are rules its not because hes a dev he could do what pleased him..
B4NN3D.
Not to be a **** or anything i loved his rom but still ...
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Im not against the rules or anything else Im sure they are helpful for the bigger picture.:cyclops: I am however stating its ironic that he did better with there stuff than they did. IMO when a dev does that its usually buggy or simply not as good , his roms were always up to date and he had stuff out much quicker than others.
At the end of the day everyone here is modding someone elses work to begin with so getting banned for using a modification to an open source or Samsung based software is just weird to me.
Isnt that why theres two dev forums to begin with ?

Just so that we are all clear on this subject. He is not Banned.
Like someone above said, he still has a ROM in one of the Note sections (can't remember if NI or NII atm). I am one of the Mods over those sections as well so I have seen his threads and activity.
Now I don't know what exactly went down and why the thread was locked and even if I did, I'm not sure I can speak freely. I was called away on a family emergency that weekend and when I got back it was locked and the other thread about this was in full swing. It seemed like a kang job, but as I said, I do not know the particulars. I am only posting in this thread to let you know that he was not banned and chose to host his S3 ROM elsewhere.
Please don't make this thread into a pissing contest about who's was better and random speculation about what happened. Plus, if he is not here to defend himself, he shouldn't be attacked (not saying that any of the ones that posted attacked him in any way *more for future posters, if this thread stays open).

xManMythLegend said:
He should have just added some credits. His roms were better than those he "borrowed" from. He also updated far more frequently and was always responding to questions.
What a shame.
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He "borrowed" from me! And alot of other people, he wasnt a dev he was a kang artist! And got caught! You have no idea buddy

evil1art said:
He "borrowed" from me! And alot of other people, he wasnt a dev he was a kang artist! And got caught! You have no idea buddy
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Seems like you're arguing semantics. Only thing I see wrong is not giving credit. (ill surrender the end point that it's xdas way of managing things and that's fine.)
However you and everyone else are working off Google and to a lesser extent Samsungs work to begin with he only borrowed what you tweaked in someone else's code to begin with ;don't know why devs feel they should have special treatment. Having followed android *devs* since the early G1 days I find the current state rather egotistical and counter productive at times.
Again I say... I understand about not giving credit but alluding to him being a thief is ironic considering what is actually being done.
You say I have no idea, that's fine perhaps I don't . But proclaiming thievery with exclamation points doesn't exactly educate or inform anyone of anything let alone show that I'm in the dark on the matter.

xManMythLegend said:
Seems like you're arguing semantics. Only thing I see wrong is not giving credit. (ill surrender the end point that it's xdas way of managing things and that's fine.)
However you and everyone else are working off Google and to a lesser extent Samsungs work to begin with he only borrowed what you tweaked in someone else's code to begin with ;don't know why devs feel they should have special treatment. Having followed android *devs* since the early G1 days I find the current state rather egotistical and counter productive at times.
Again I say... I understand about not giving credit but alluding to him being a thief is ironic considering what is actually being done.
You say I have no idea, that's fine perhaps I don't . But proclaiming thievery with exclamation points doesn't exactly educate or inform anyone of anything let alone show that I'm in the dark on the matter.
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Doesn't matter. You don't give credit you get banned. Thievery!!!!!!!:thumbup:
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Credit is the least he can ask. Do you know or even have an idea how long it takes to make a rom? De compiling recompiling apks tweaking smali. **** I tried to theme a couple pngs and 15 toggles and it took me a couple days just reading to figure out what to do! They have to edit a lot of files. It's long tedious work and they do it all for free!!
Regardless if it was based off Google code. They edited and made it unique. It is now theirs. For example for school you have to write a paper about Lincoln. You research about Lincoln and final write your paper. What your saying is that the paper you wrote is not yours because you pretty much just reworded facts you read online. (provided you didn't copy paste) the paper is now your own paper that you can claim rights too.
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not banned
WC has personal health issues and chose to close his public site for a bit. He has not been Banned and has some awesome new stuff for both the Htc Vivid and the new Htc One. He has been going through a lot and hopefully will be back up and running soon. Gary
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Woody said:
Just so that we are all clear on this subject. He is not Banned.
Like someone above said, he still has a ROM in one of the Note sections (can't remember if NI or NII atm). I am one of the Mods over those sections as well so I have seen his threads and activity.
Now I don't know what exactly went down and why the thread was locked and even if I did, I'm not sure I can speak freely. I was called away on a family emergency that weekend and when I got back it was locked and the other thread about this was in full swing. It seemed like a kang job, but as I said, I do not know the particulars. I am only posting in this thread to let you know that he was not banned and chose to host his S3 ROM elsewhere.
Please don't make this thread into a pissing contest about who's was better and random speculation about what happened. Plus, if he is not here to defend himself, he shouldn't be attacked (not saying that any of the ones that posted attacked him in any way *more for future posters, if this thread stays open).
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To all devs

I would love it if every rom posting would go back to the format of what is working and not...it is hard to keep flashing roms just to see what is working or not...plus I'm sure I'm wearing out my phone flashing 5 roms in a day just to find out they all have the same flaws or not or even if it was fixed..ie does video calling work, or hml, or any other feature that this phone can normally do...remember when devs use to have 2 lists in the op and pictures so you could window shop for your rom and not have to spend the time downloading, wiping and flashing just to restore your nandroid because you don't like the look or the fact some things don't work...it would really help and it only takes a couple of minutes.....thank all of you for your time and development of this device...
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djtheraven said:
I would love it if every rom posting would go back to the format of what is working and not...it is hard to keep flashing roms just to see what is working or not...plus I'm sure I'm wearing out my phone flashing 5 roms in a day just to find out they all have the same flaws or not or even if it was fixed..ie does video calling work, or hml, or any other feature that this phone can normally do...remember when devs use to have 2 lists in the op and pictures so you could window shop for your rom and not have to spend the time downloading, wiping and flashing just to restore your nandroid because you don't like the look or the fact some things don't work...it would really help and it only takes a couple of minutes.....thank all of you for your time and development of this device...
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Although I agree, your going tone other get zero response or (and more probable) catch flack about being demanding.
While typically, the android community development is free, everyone has became accustomed to the idea that eta's, change logs, working/not working lists are simply below them. Perhaps in their eyes it is. What I would like to remind everyone is this...time isn't limitless, and can be very valuable to some. If you don't like the community feedback (ie. Asking for these lists; small stuff) than maybe you should just (loosely) develop and/or cook ROMs for your own personal use. Xda is a community... A community built on knowledge, user base, and the good ol' boy system.
Just remember what we are here for. We all own a T989 and want to make our devices outlast even the newer models.
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The point I'm trying to make is that it would stop cluttering up all the threads with people asking if stuff works all the time when they can just read the op... I see countless people asking if stuff works because they don't know...
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djtheraven said:
The point I'm trying to make is that it would stop cluttering up all the threads with people asking if stuff works all the time when they can just read the op... I see countless people asking if stuff works because they don't know...
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You're assuming that people will read and thus not need to ask. As someone who spent over a year developing for the vibrant I couldn't even count the times that I either directed someone's questions to the op that contained the answer or just ignored the questions all together. Now as just an onlooker who casually flashes I read the op and if I don't see the answer I want I watch the thread and let others ask/answer or do my own research like checking out gerrit or just move on and find something else.
When I was building ROMs I would spend hours at the computer and by the time I got around to posting my work I may have forgotten one or two things so change logs were usually only partial.
Getting the latest software on your phone while free does take a little effort on the part of the user.
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You're assuming that people will read and thus not need to ask. As someone who spent over a year developing for the vibrant I couldn't even count the times that I either directed someone's questions to the op that contained the answer or just ignored the questions all together. Now as just an onlooker who casually flashes I read the op and if I don't see the answer I want I watch the thread and let others ask/answer or do my own research like checking out gerrit or just move on and find something else.
When I was building ROMs I would spend hours at the computer and by the time I got around to posting my work I may have forgotten one or two things so change logs were usually only partial.
Getting the latest software on your phone while free does take a little effort on the part of the user.
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I'm not asking for a change log just a simple list of what is working and not it's like 6 things and never really changes unless something is fixed...I think you guys are really missing the point...
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O and about the free thing I don't ask anyone to do this for us and I certainly don't expect it but if you are going do something for a lot of people than do it right...I do a lot of free things in my life...I'm a dj for 27 years in sfla and I have to spin for free most of the time because nobody wants to pay, but that doesn't mean that I am going to do a subpar job for all my fans just because I'm not going to get paid...I do it because I love it and if someone had a request I don't say well I'm doing this for free so too bad...I hate that argument you guys always use...and I donate where appropriate....
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djtheraven said:
I'm not asking for a change log just a simple list of what is working and not it's like 6 things and never really changes unless something is fixed...I think you guys are really missing the point...
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Have you ever touched computer code?

algorhythm said:
Have you ever touched computer code?
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No but if you love to do it why complain...and what does that have to do with telling me if Bluetooth,etc is working?
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Well the reason this is happening is because 4.2 just came out. People are curious to know what works and what doesn't. Devs haven't had enough time to check all of the glitches and bugs. Devs also rely on us for fixing bugs because they don't always have the time to do it.
As per the same questions being asked over and over, people simply don't know what the search button does.
And yeah :thumbup:
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Koragg618 said:
Well the reason this is happening is because 4.2 just came out. People are curious to know what works and what doesn't. Devs haven't had enough time to check all of the glitches and bugs. Devs also rely on us for fixing bugs because they don't always have the time to do it.
As per the same questions being asked over and over, people simply don't know what the search button does.
And yeah :thumbup:
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Wow! Someone just makes a basic request and gives thanks to developers, and suddenly everyone is all over him and getting all defensive about developers feelings or something. How did it turn into this??
I kind of agreed with the request as far as how nice it might be to know pros and cons of each rom without reading through pages and pages of useless posts in the dev threads to find out each detail. It seems to me that most developers appreciate it when more people are using their rom (and obviously people appreciate the rom they're using) sooo...it might help people to understand what they're flashing and they might be more likely to flash a rom that they understand from a end-user point of view.
If developers don't want to add a list of what works and what doesn't to the OP, then they don't have to. If developers want to help flashers in their decision-making process (and likely boost the number of people using their rom), then adding such a list might help.
As far as I can tell, that's the end of the story.

So if the Op doesn't state what's working, then people have the right to clutter threads and annoy them, right? Its a win win situation, unless devs like being asked the same question a billion times. It could help keep the clutter to a minimum but its up to the devs. Not that I'm demanding a perfect op, but there are reasons as to why people ask and ask.
1. Too lazy to read.
2. Fast response wanted(see 1)
3. Op doesn't state what's working.
4. Search doesn't always help( at least for me on the xda app.)
5. People want a solution.
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OP, your post has been noted and understood. But so that there isn't any bashing/flaming happening, closing the thread, as I removed a couple "not needed" type of posts already in this thread.
Thank You.