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Nexus running hot.

Hey guys,
Along with the volume bug (let's not mention that!) I'm finding my GN running much hotter under general use that my HTC Desire HD.
This is my first Samsung Android device so I don't know if this is 'normal' or not.
Can any of you guys confirm this or let me know your thoughts.
Many thanks.

ShiroEd said:
Hey guys,
Along with the volume bug (let's not mention that!) I'm finding my GN running much hotter under general use that my HTC Desire HD.
This is my first Samsung Android device so I don't know if this is 'normal' or not.
Can any of you guys confirm this or let me know your thoughts.
Many thanks.
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it is normal for the phone to get hot especially if running in 3G or HSPA mode.

Thanks @oscillik
I never really noticed it with my HTC devices.
It seems to be the screen particularly as it does it when I'm on WiFi too. It gets particularly hot at the back right 'behind' the camera lense and around the corresponding place at the front too.
Hmmm...

ShiroEd said:
Thanks @oscillik
I never really noticed it with my HTC devices.
It seems to be the screen particularly as it does it when I'm on WiFi too. It gets particularly hot at the back right 'behind' the camera lense and around the corresponding place at the front too.
Hmmm...
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SuperAMOLED screens get hot when they are on for extended periods, and especially when they are at a higher brightness.
The rear of the phone will get hot due to power inverters, cellular radio use, RF heat by product.

Mine gets damn hot too at the back next to the camera. It feels nice and toasty on my pocket

Thanks again @oscillik
I guess I'm a little paranoid with the RF bug ye know?
*continuously hits F5 on Samsungs Favebook page*

ShiroEd said:
Thanks again @oscillik
I guess I'm a little paranoid with the RF bug ye know?
*continuously hits F5 on Samsungs Favebook page*
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if you read this post you will find information on how to determine if your handset is suffering from the fault. If you find that your handset does have the hardware fault, then you can make a decision as to whether you take it back to get a refund.

oscillik said:
if you read this post you will find information on how to determine if your handset is suffering from the fault. If you find that your handset does have the hardware fault, then you can make a decision as to whether you take it back to get a refund.
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Yep. I've been following this one from the start and this is what happens to mine too.
I don't want a refund I want a Galaxy Nexus that works so I'm gonna hold out for Samsung to replace my handset with an updated one.
I can't see how they can do otherwise.

ShiroEd said:
Yep. I've been following this one from the start and this is what happens to mine too.
I don't want a refund I want a Galaxy Nexus that works so I'm gonna hold out for Samsung to replace my handset with an updated one.
I can't see how they can do otherwise.
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If you wait to get a replacement direct from Samsung, you will likely end up having a refurbished handset, rather than a brand new one.

oscillik said:
If you wait to get a replacement direct from Samsung, you will likely end up having a refurbished handset, rather than a brand new one.
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Whether I get a new one from Samsung or Phones4U I SWEAR BY ALMIGHTY THOR THAT I WILL GET A NEW ONE!
"Refurb THIS Samsung!"

ShiroEd said:
Whether I get a new one from Samsung or Phones4U I SWEAR BY ALMIGHTY THOR THAT I WILL GET A NEW ONE!
"Refurb THIS Samsung!"
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unfortunately if you try to get one through Samsung, you very likely will end up with a refurb unit. The only way you're going to be guaranteed a brand new unit is if you get a refund on your current handset. If you got the handset as part of a contract deal, you will not be able to get a refund on the handset due to Phones4u's policy regarding sales.

Before on Galaxy S2 when it was released it was reasonably hot. But after some new updates and kernel etc, the heat isn't as bad as before.
I guess you'll just have to wait for new kernel and stuff.

All my phone's have been running hot, ever since my iPhone 3G.
The worst was my Samsung Vibrant, you could smell the plastic being toasted
My Nexus One got toasty and my Sensation is no different sadly.

It's a LOT cooler than the Sensation i have

[Q] A few noob questions.

Oh hello. I'm absolutely new to the forums because I decided to register so I can ask some questions about the Iconia A100 because I need them answered because I want to get the tablet soon.
Soo, here we go. About the screen size and resolution; I never had any Android device so it might sound stupid but... if you try to run an application or a game or whatever that's been made for lower resolution than the tablet's, will it run in a smaller "window" or something, or just won't run at all? The same goes with applications made for 1.x or 2.x version of Android - will they launch on A100's Honeycomb?
I also worry about the battery a bit - not about the battery's life because that seems just fine for me, but what happens if the battery breaks? You can't really replace it at home without breaking the warranty (I suppose you cannot open it) so will they replace it at some authorized-service-or-something? Or do you need to get the whole tablet replaced? I'm probably over-worrying this a bit because none of my phone batteries ever broke but still... Hehe.
Oh and I also wanted to ask about Gorilla Glass... Is it featured on the A100? On their website it says it is, I just want to get it verified by someone who owns it.
That's probably all for now, thanks very much for any replies.

Paturata said:
Oh hello. I'm absolutely new to the forums because I decided to register so I can ask some questions about the Iconia A100 because I need them answered because I want to get the tablet soon.
Soo, here we go. About the screen size and resolution; I never had any Android device so it might sound stupid but... if you try to run an application or a game or whatever that's been made for lower resolution than the tablet's, will it run in a smaller "window" or something, or just won't run at all? The same goes with applications made for 1.x or 2.x version of Android - will they launch on A100's Honeycomb?
I also worry about the battery a bit - not about the battery's life because that seems just fine for me, but what happens if the battery breaks? You can't really replace it at home without breaking the warranty (I suppose you cannot open it) so will they replace it at some authorized-service-or-something? Or do you need to get the whole tablet replaced? I'm probably over-worrying this a bit because none of my phone batteries ever broke but still... Hehe.
Oh and I also wanted to ask about Gorilla Glass... Is it featured on the A100? On their website it says it is, I just want to get it verified by someone who owns it.
That's probably all for now, thanks very much for any replies.
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I kept the A100 for a while before returning it but I'll share what I know about what you ask.
I'm not a gamer per se. Angry Birds is about all I've found interest for. But if an app is designed for lower resolutions often you will see FCs or other odd behaviour. Try to select compatible games for HC 3.2 and you should be fine. If a favorite game is FC'ing on you...drop a note to the developer. Oftentimes you can get great insights that way.
The battery is non-replaceable meaning if it ever pooped out on you, your only recourse would be RMA.
Yes, Gorilla Glass is a feature. But, know this. Gorilla Glass is "scratch-resistant" and not "scratch-proof". Huge difference. If you keep it, cover it would be my suggestion.
The A00 is a nice little tab. Well built but not real flexible. If you can swing a bit more $$ there are much better options out there.
HTH

Thank you skeeterpro. I've a few more questions though - what exactly is "FC"? I'd say it's Friend Code, but that doesn't really fit well...
I also want to ask what better options would you recommend, and why exactly did you return the tablet? I'm sorry for lots of stupid questions, but the tablet seems just fine to me and I don't wanna pay ~200$ more for a 10" Samsung tablet.

FC is short for Force Close. If an app quits responding, it is Android's way of killing it. Most times it will give you the option to Force Close an unresponsive app or wait for it to respond. Other times, it just closes it on its own.
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Paturata said:
Thank you skeeterpro. I've a few more questions though - what exactly is "FC"? I'd say it's Friend Code, but that doesn't really fit well...
I also want to ask what better options would you recommend, and why exactly did you return the tablet? I'm sorry for lots of stupid questions, but the tablet seems just fine to me and I don't wanna pay ~200$ more for a 10" Samsung tablet.
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No problem! Ask away. Two things. Questions are what this forum is for and two, we were ALL new at one time!
FC - Force Close. Android-speak for crashed! (Yours seems more positive though!)
Be happy to share what I think on recommendations but the bottom line is what YOU like and does what YOU want and, last but not least, what YOU can afford. If a tablet you have seems fine to you...keep it. Everyone has different needs/wants and therefore goals. List your priorities in a tab then jump on it.
My opinions on available 7" tabs I've tried:
A100: nice overall tablet. Good build just "feels" good in hand. Slippery back though. Screen viewing angles are really not good (looking at screen from the sides). Straight on the screen is acceptable. Battery life is weak. Depending on use it's highly doubtful one would get a full day on a single charge. Not many accessories available. There are rumors Acer may be getting out of making tablets. Not good as support would wither out. And that would mean no OS upgrades. Small dev support. (Not many on Xda own the darned thing). Buying something that is EOL (End Of Life) can be good but seldom is. There is the ability to root the A100 but no verifiable Recovery yet. And rooting voids one's warranty so a fail-safe Recovery is VITAL. The measly 8GB internal storage is mitigated by the uSD (micro SD) availability.
Amazon Kindle: Not a real tablet computer really. An e-reader that runs android which is fine but not really the same "animal" as a full on android tablet. Same with Nook Tablet. Nice units for reading/movies though. But locked into Amazon/Barnes and Noble content.
Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus: best 7" tablet available today bar none. Downsides are price. It's spend-y at $399 but you get what you pay for. Accessories are few but in the pipeline I am told. Best/fastest processor on the 7" tab out there. Screen isn't IPS but viewing angles and much better than the A100. Charger port can covert to a USB host. Both root and recovery are available but recovery is still being tested AFAIK.
Samsung has a 8.9 screen tab out if the 10.1" screen is too large for you. It has some drawbacks and the biggest IMHO is no uSD. There is a 7.7" tab from Samsung coming that is said to be freakin' amazing but no word on when or if it will be released in the US.
*whew* Hope the about helps at all.
Raise your hand if you have questions? lol

Thanks very much for both replies!
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There are rumors Acer may be getting out of making tablets. Not good as support would wither out. And that would mean no OS upgrades. Small dev support. (Not many on Xda own the darned thing).
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That would be bad. However, I read there will be ICS update for the A100 in 2012 so I don't know.
skeeterpro said:
Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus: best 7" tablet available today bar none. Downsides are price. It's spend-y at $399 but you get what you pay for.
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$399? It's impossible to buy it here (Czech republic) for that price. Even A100 costs $340 here, Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus wasn't even released here yet and it will cost $700 at launch. Yes, 700 bucks.
You kinda scared me with the Acer-will-stop-producing-tablets thing (I know it's a rumour, but I'm paranoid as hell ). I'd love to invest into a Samsung tablet and be sure there will be lots of official support for it, but it's way too over-priced here (and that goes with everything in Europe).

Acer is not getting out of the tablet game. They have already announced the A200. The A100 and A500 will get Android 4.0 the latest version of Android in Janurary.

IHaveCrayons said:
Acer is not getting out of the tablet game. They have already announced the A200. The A100 and A500 will get Android 4.0 the latest version of Android in Janurary.
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Good to know! Of course, articles posted by the various websites should always be read with a grain of salt!
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Paturata said:
Thanks very much for both replies!
That would be bad. However, I read there will be ICS update for the A100 in 2012 so I don't know.
$399? It's impossible to buy it here (Czech republic) for that price. Even A100 costs $340 here, Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus wasn't even released here yet and it will cost $700 at launch. Yes, 700 bucks.
You kinda scared me with the Acer-will-stop-producing-tablets thing (I know it's a rumour, but I'm paranoid as hell ). I'd love to invest into a Samsung tablet and be sure there will be lots of official support for it, but it's way too over-priced here (and that goes with everything in Europe).
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$700? Jeez. Actually the $340 for the A100 is about what I paid here when I first got it to try out. That sort of pricing seems to explain why so many from Europe purchase devices when on holiday here to take back.
Glad ihavecrayons found the source on Acer. I'm sure some manufacturers will stop producing tabs as the market floods with devices. The A100 (barring the irritants to some people) is a fine little tab really. Once a verifiable/reproducible Recovery is developed it will lend itself to serious modding! Now hopefully there will be increasing love for the device on Xda.

Thanks again.
If you don't mind one (probably last) question... What is this "recovery thing" that everyone's talking about? Resetting the device to its factory state including the default ROM for warranty purposes?

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Do you trust this tablet enough to buy a 32GB?

Current 32Gb owners feel free to aviod this topic if you wish, I know you're answer will contain bias
Multitouch issues, GPS issues, random reboots. All making headlines in the tech media. When I see this I have to ask myself do I REALLY want to entrust this company with the higher priced model? I mean it's $40 ok I get it. But when it comes to customer satisfaction and not wanting to get burned you have to draw the line somewhere.

No matter what, you're not going to get burned.
They have a 1 year warranty.
The extra memory, given non expandable storage just makes sense.

If your that concerned about quality control, why buy it in the first place ?
Personally in going for more memory, because I think I may need it.
Also yeah, warranty is included (and you can always flash stock)
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Just like The_Zodiac said. If you are that concerned, why buy it? You're not buying a faulty tablet. You're buying a tablet that has a possibility of being faulty. Let's just say that there is something wrong, why wouldn't you just exchange it for a new one?
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No, I wouldn't trust this thing if it were given to me for free. Like most of you, I'm on my second one. Some of you are even on your third or fourth one. At that point, why not just return the thing for good or deal with the issues? You shouldn't have to return a tablet this many times in order to get a properly functioning one. This is absolutely unacceptable.
I'm worried about quality control because bad quality control shouldn't exist on such a large scale with these tablets. ASUS has had plenty of time to make a tablet properly. From their own Transformers to their other tablets all the way to the first gen Nexus 7. All of them have problems and it's annoying because you'd think after making so many, you'd figure out how to do it right, or at least bring the problem rate down low enough.
You pretty much of a 75% chance of getting a tablet with some issue that manifests itself only after you really start using the damn thing.
Come on Google, get Samsung on this.

Still on my first 32gb, no problems at all. No multi touch issues, no reboots, no dead pixels. I think one of the big problems is that you only hear the bad stuff, you don't hear from the satisfied customers.
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I have faith enough to have ordered the 32GB.
Take that as you will.

subnormyle said:
Still on my first 32gb, no problems at all. No multi touch issues, no reboots, no dead pixels. I think one of the big problems is that you only hear the bad stuff, you don't hear from the satisfied customers.
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This is also something I was thinking.
People are motivated to post about problems, not so much when everything is running smoothly.
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This is the problem with these forums.. people come here to complain but don't post when they are satisfied with the product.. as such every little problem is blown out of proportion.. I have this tablet for the past 5 days and yet to face any problems.. All in all highly satisfied with my purchase.. 32 GB is a good option if you keep a lot of media or a heavy gamer.. otherwise 16 gb is good enough ..
First and foremost there is no product released till date that doesn't have some problems... if you are worried about it that you might get a faulty product then you should not buy any electronic item as there is a negligible chance that it may be faulty..
So, if you really want enjoy the nexus experience trust your gut and go ahead.. you will never be able to understand whether you will get a good product or a bad one by asking these questions in a forum
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freeza said:
No, I wouldn't trust this thing if it were given to me for free. Like most of you, I'm on my second one. Some of you are even on your third or fourth one.
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WTF? Most of us?...You might be the biggest exaggerating liar I have ever had the displeasure of reading...
I trust it. There are less then 100 posts from 100 unique users with the issues you describe in your opening post on this forum of 1000's....
That and warranty = good to go.

subnormyle said:
Still on my first 32gb, no problems at all. No multi touch issues, no reboots, no dead pixels. I think one of the big problems is that you only hear the bad stuff, you don't hear from the satisfied customers.
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Same here. Works like a charm. And absolutely loving it.
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tweaked said:
WTF? Most of us?...You might be the biggest exaggerating liar I have ever had the displeasure of reading...
I trust it. There are less then 100 posts from 100 unique users with the issues you describe in your opening post on this forum of 1000's....
That and warranty = good to go.
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Boo, I'm so sad.

No issues with my 32gb version.
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Im loving my 2nd Gen.
I have run it though all of the faults my original nexus 7 had like the flickering screen at low brightness etc etc and its not given me one single problem.
I say if you have a 16GB or God forbid the 8GB 1st gen like I pre ordered GET THE 32! I did and I love it.
Rooted it and put TWRP on it as soon as I got home running the Cyanogen nighties now.:angel:

I have no problem here. Work flawlessly. :good:

We have 2 of these 2013 32GB N7s at home.
None of them have shown any of the issues mentioned.
GPS works flawlessly on both of them(use mine daily driving around Houston)
Screen had been impeccable - no light bleed, no dead pixels, no multi-touch issues.
Having been burned before by ASUS on the Prime and disappointed by the Infinity, I bought this with a very critical eye on everything hardware related. That's why I skipped on the first N7. If there was just an iota of something wrong with the unit I have, it would have been returned in a heart beat.
I ended up buying a second one for the rest of the family. This one's mine :laugh:
Glad to see ASUS finally step up...and hope it lasts longer than a device life-cycle.
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If your that concerned about quality control, why buy it in the first place ?
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Exactly.
I do have the GPS issue and a reboot usually fixes it, at may or may not stop working the rest of the trip.
The touchscreen grounding issues is annoying. If it laying on a table or mounted in my car it touch screen may become unresponsive at times. Picking it up in my hands and it seem to work fine. This issues are annoying, but I'm still keeping my tablet.
Not sure I will be buying Asus products in the future.

subnormyle said:
Still on my first 32gb, no problems at all. No multi touch issues, no reboots, no dead pixels. I think one of the big problems is that you only hear the bad stuff, you don't hear from the satisfied customers.
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Same here. On my first 32GB model that I bought from my local Best Buy 2 days before the "official" release date. No issues whatsoever with mine! I completely agree that happy customers don't get on the Web to praise the tablet for working good, where as unhappy customers do get on the Web to discuss the issues that they're having! Also, I don't know of a single electronic device that doesn't have some issues with some of the products that made their way to the general public's hands! I simply don't think it's possible to have 100% perfect Quality Control for any company...
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WTF? Most of us?...You might be the biggest exaggerating liar I have ever had the displeasure of reading...
I trust it. There are less then 100 posts from 100 unique users with the issues you describe in your opening post on this forum of 1000's....
That and warranty = good to go.
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Isn't it unfortunate how some people just assume that if they're having a problem then everyone MUST be having the same exact problem! Lol
Anyway.
OP, your question should have been - Do you trust this tablet enough to spend ANY money on it. If you don't trust the device then you shouldn't spend a dime on it! As others have already said, if you're willing to spend $230 for the 16GB model, then spending $270 for the 32GB model is a no-brainer on a device that doesn't have removable storage, IF you need the storage. If you're willing to spend $230 for it, then $40 more isn't a problem. Plus you do get a 1 year manufacturer warranty with the device, so that will take care of natural issue if by chance you do have one. If you have the option to buy at a local store, then I think that is your best choice.
What I'm trying to say is this - You SHOULD NOT be contemplating the $40 difference in storage options based on trust. You SHOULD be contemplating making the purchase at all if you're concerned about it.
That said, I have ZERO issues with mine and couldn't be happier! I already have a 10" tablet and a 5.5" phone, but this 7" tablet fits nicely in between and serves it's on purposes for different scenarios. I HIGHLY recommend it!!!!
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RojasTKD said:
Exactly.
I do have the GPS issue and a reboot usually fixes it, at may or may not stop working the rest of the trip.
The touchscreen grounding issues is annoying. If it laying on a table or mounted in my car it touch screen may become unresponsive at times. Picking it up in my hands and it seem to work fine. This issues are annoying, but I'm still keeping my tablet.
Not sure I will be buying Asus products in the future.
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Exact same thing here (GPS every now and then... been a few days now) and unresponsive multi when ungrounded. But I have to believe Asus/Google will swap it out f they decide it's not a software thing.
If you are somewhere where a swap would e an issue though, I don't know OP. Check it out thoroughly before taking it too far

My first device had uneven gaps on the bezels. My 2nd one has been flawless. I have had no issues at all.

[Q]Should I be worried about buying the nexus 7?

I've been reading up on all the possible issues so far and the list goes on and on. Is it worth the risk? From random reboots, to even wifi range.

IMO, I think it is worth the risk. I think all the problems are addressable and will eventually be solved either by ASUS/Google or our intrepid developers here. It is really an amazing piece of hardware. It is just going through some teething pains at the moment.
Also, even if you don't like it and even if you exceed the take-back period, I think you would be able to sell it for enough to come close to recovering your cost, so the risk is minimal either way.

PJ Clifford said:
IMO, I think it is worth the risk. I think all the problems are addressable and will eventually be solved either by ASUS/Google or our intrepid developers here. It is really an amazing piece of hardware. It is just going through some teething pains at the moment.
Also, even if you don't like it and even if you exceed the take-back period, I think you would be able to sell it for enough to come close to recovering your cost, so the risk is minimal either way.
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No problem with mine. Poor iPad is gettin dusty though!

No need to worry. I would recommend only buying the tablet from a place that will allow you to easily exchange it. In case you get a unit with dust under the screen or light bleed. I personally had to go through 4 until I had gotten a perfect unit. Hopefully they have worked out the kinks with the new batches shipping out. Just note a good amount of tablet manufacturers, not just Asus, seem to skimp on the quality.
I am really happy with my tablet! It is everything that I need it to be for the price.

Bought mine from Amazon on release day and it's had no issues. I wouldn't be worried...remember that usually the only people to speak up are ones that are having problems. Most people aren't going to come to a forum just to post that their device is working as it should.

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Bought mine from Amazon on release day and it's had no issues. I wouldn't be worried...remember that usually the only people to speak up are ones that are having problems. Most people aren't going to come to a forum just to post that their device is working as it should.
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Agreed. Mine is working great... although my first unit did have faulty speakers... Returned it and exchanged at BB no problem. So not really much to worry about as the return/exchange policies at most reputable places are very good.

From what I've read GPS and multi touch issues might be fixed as long as they're not hardware related. It's very much possible that there are different hardware combinations for different batches of the n7.
How do I know if my unit has a wifi problem out of the box? I live in the Philippines so it's a long way from the US if I have to return it lol! But aside from the note 10.1 2013, there arent really any alternatives to good high end android tablets.

Going to buy LG G4, Need some guidance.

I am going to buy LG G4. I have heard a lot about hardware failure of this phone. So, what is your opinion on this? Need your guidance,please.
Regards

My opinion would be to buy a G3 or Moto X Pure, if you're looking for something on the cheaper end. G4 is a mess.
If extra cash isn't an issue I'd say wait and check out the HTC 10 tomorrow. The Huawei Mate 8 looks sweet, too, if you can find one.

A lot of boot loop issues with early production models. It may not be the case with later production models, but these boot loop issues take 5-8 months to show. If you are buying brand new, make sure you have at least a 12 month warranty.
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i would like to read on this matter of bootloops. so far i heard all 505xxxxx have bootloop.. and i will like to read more on this.. can anyone give me link to discussion of this matter.?

Guys, friend of mines has LG G4 but it's volume down when it's pressed it doesn't work, it gives him a recent apps instead. How he fix it ??
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raptorddd said:
i would like to read on this matter of bootloops. so far i heard all 505xxxxx have bootloop.. and i will like to read more on this.. can anyone give me link to discussion of this matter.?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/lg-g4-stuck-bootloop-t3268734
Bootloop has been reported as far as 603.

510's for model US991 seem good. We have it, and haven't had ANY of the reported issues (bootloop nor others).
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I will buy Pure Now. As, I am buying from outside my country and I dont want to take any risk.
Thank You everyone for your kind and prompt replies.

Sammae7 said:
My opinion would be to buy a G3 or Moto X Pure, if you're looking for something on the cheaper end. G4 is a mess.
If extra cash isn't an issue I'd say wait and check out the HTC 10 tomorrow. The Huawei Mate 8 looks sweet, too, if you can find one.
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What is your opinion on HTC One M9? Should I consider it?

DawarAzhar said:
What is your opinion on HTC One M9? Should I consider it?
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I had am M9 for less than a week. It's a beautiful phone that functioned fine but it got hot fast. I had GPS on for maybe five minutes and the phone got hot enough for me to feel it on my leg through my jeans. Very warm. If you can handle that, it's a nice phone.

Sammae7 said:
My opinion would be to buy a G3 or Moto X Pure, if you're looking for something on the cheaper end. G4 is a mess.
If extra cash isn't an issue I'd say wait and check out the HTC 10 tomorrow. The Huawei Mate 8 looks sweet, too, if you can find one.
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I had am M9 for less than a week. It's a beautiful phone that functioned fine but it got hot fast. I had GPS on for maybe five minutes and the phone got hot enough for me to feel it on my leg through my jeans. Very warm. If you can handle that, it's a nice phone.
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What about OP2?

I've never owned a of the OP devices, only because I could never get ahold of them.
Currently, I'm super excited about the HTC 10. It is sounding amazing. Can't wait for a few reviews.

DawarAzhar said:
I am going to buy LG G4. I have heard a lot about hardware failure of this phone. So, what is your opinion on this? Need your guidance,please.
Regards
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If I may throw my hat in the ring, I have a G4 and am quite dissatisfied. I am getting a Nexus for my next phone and I suggest you take a good look at them as well.

G4 is a beautiful device it does as commands and is loyal. I bought mine recently and it looks elegant with brown leather. Yes it had hardware failure with 505 and i did get mine keeping that in mind. I own a 512 EU H model. Rooted. Works as a charm. Still optimus has its moments but
Thank god it isnt touchwiz. The camera is jewel and it paints magnificently on the patriot class 10 64gb i reserved for it. Other than that its your call.
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Another vote for the nexus 6p from me. A big amoled screen with front facing speaker running the latest android is a perfect combination. It may be expensive outside the US but if u already consider the m9, the 6p won't be much of a stretch in term of budget. No sdcard and removable battery are nexus' only downsides

Quickdraw996 said:
If I may throw my hat in the ring, I have a G4 and am quite dissatisfied. I am getting a Nexus for my next phone and I suggest you take a good look at them as well.
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Any specific reason that you're dissatisfied with the G4?
Nexus are certainly nice phones though

Good Son 5 said:
Any specific reason that you're dissatisfied with the G4?
Nexus are certainly nice phones though
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I was excited because I finally got a phone that wasn't trash and was expecting to get the ROMs and Kernels etc. that a flagship usually has and was lucky enough to get with lesser phones like the original LG Volt. I was quickly screwed by LG. A spectacular phone ruined by hardware problems and a locked bootloader. I won't have these problems with a Nexus, plus the price is better and it has support for GSM and CDMA networks. I can go to and from any carrier I choose while not having to wait 9 months for them to push OTAs or load my phone with trash. It is for all intents and purposes, my dream phone. The only thing missing is external storage, which may change with the next one. If you don't care about root and what not, buy a Samsung. The hardware and software are superb, unless you don't like TouchWiz of course. I don't mind OEM skins, so it doesn't bother me but some hate it. If you don't want a sammy, I would also recommend HTC flagships, they are praised by everyone I know who owns one.
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I guess it can be summed up as having too high of expectations.

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I was excited because I finally got a phone that wasn't trash and was expecting to get the ROMs and Kernels etc. that a flagship usually has and was lucky enough to get with lesser phones like the original LG Volt. I was quickly screwed by LG. A spectacular phone ruined by hardware problems and a locked bootloader. I won't have these problems with a Nexus, plus the price is better and it has support for GSM and CDMA networks. I can go to and from any carrier I choose while not having to wait 9 months for them to push OTAs or load my phone with trash. It is for all intents and purposes, my dream phone. The only thing missing is external storage, which may change with the next one. If you don't care about root and what not, buy a Samsung. The hardware and software are superb, unless you don't like TouchWiz of course. I don't mind OEM skins, so it doesn't bother me but some hate it. If you don't want a sammy, I would also recommend HTC flagships, they are praised by everyone I know who owns one.
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I guess it can be summed up as having too high of expectations.
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Expectations can really be everything. If having complete control over the phone is the top priority, getting a Nexus is the obvious solution. Especially if you want other features like GSM/CDMA compatibility. And the quick updates are great of course.
I suppose I have the benefit of lower expectations - well, mainly in regards to the lack of an unlocked bootloader and the potential for bootloop issues (or the need for a warranty). For me, expandable storage is a must. As is having a great camera (and all the phones mentioned seemingly do). I also like the replaceable battery - as it has the potential to add long-term life to the phone. OEM skins aren't the worst thing, though TouchWiz isn't my favorite. Obviously, I would love complete control of the phone, or at least the ability to completely remove and bloatware I don't want, but most of the time I am happy enough using a launcher like Nova.
The Nexus is a little big for me as well. I'm coming from a 5" screen, so even the 5.5" on the G4 is a little big - and likely would be too big if not for the relatively small size of the phone otherwise. When I was at Best Buy recently, the S7 was definitely the best device to hold in my hand. Looks great, works great, but cost too much for me right now. Also, while this may not be a factor for everyone, the Gear VR did not meet my expectations - and certainly gave me concerns about impact on my eyes and/or brain, as well as doubtful how long the battery would last using it
In the end, ordering a G4 (with a US warranty) + case, screen protector and tax was less than $350. Sure, I won't be able to root it (at least right now), and I will always be cautious about the bootloop occurring, but that seems like a great deal for less than half the price of the S7, and $200+ less than a Nexus.

Good Son 5 said:
Expectations can really be everything. If having complete control over the phone is the top priority, getting a Nexus is the obvious solution. Especially if you want other features like GSM/CDMA compatibility. And the quick updates are great of course.
I suppose I have the benefit of lower expectations - well, mainly in regards to the lack of an unlocked bootloader and the potential for bootloop issues (or the need for a warranty). For me, expandable storage is a must. As is having a great camera (and all the phones mentioned seemingly do). I also like the replaceable battery - as it has the potential to add long-term life to the phone. OEM skins aren't the worst thing, though TouchWiz isn't my favorite. Obviously, I would love complete control of the phone, or at least the ability to completely remove and bloatware I don't want, but most of the time I am happy enough using a launcher like Nova.
The Nexus is a little big for me as well. I'm coming from a 5" screen, so even the 5.5" on the G4 is a little big - and likely would be too big if not for the relatively small size of the phone otherwise. When I was at Best Buy recently, the S7 was definitely the best device to hold in my hand. Looks great, works great, but cost too much for me right now. Also, while this may not be a factor for everyone, the Gear VR did not meet my expectations - and certainly gave me concerns about impact on my eyes and/or brain, as well as doubtful how long the battery would last using it
In the end, ordering a G4 (with a US warranty) + case, screen protector and tax was less than $350. Sure, I won't be able to root it (at least right now), and I will always be cautious about the bootloop occurring, but that seems like a great deal for less than half the price of the S7, and $200+ less than a Nexus.
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Good luck. I hope you like it.