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Can I get my HTC Desire to use the SD card as its app memory?

Any one know if I can get my HTC Desire to use the SD card as its app memory?
I don't mean app 2 SD, i mean a way of getting the handset to see the SD card and think its the internal app memory?

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ricksvill said:
Any one know if I can get my HTC Desire to use the SD card as its app memory?
I don't mean app 2 SD, i mean a way of getting the handset to see the SD card and think its the internal app memory?
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1. root it (alpharev/unrevoked)
2. s-off (revolutionary)
3. NAND backup the current ROM from recovery mode
4. flash custom HBoot based on your requirement (refer to table in alpharev.nl)
[by this you get more internal memory increased, maximum you can get
332Mb for data]
5. install custom ROM of your choice which uses different scripts to move apps
to sd (s2e, a2sd, data2ext, etc....)
6. NABD backup the newly installed custom ROM
7. partition SD card for Fat32 and EXT3 (1gb) using gparted
8. reflash it the custom rom or restore from the back
you can refer to rooting guide which is available in the xda forum, below url may also help you regarding custom roms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328

What our sarcastic friend Terepin is trying to say is that you can't really use the SD card as an extension of your phone's internal memory without using an A2SD ROM.

TVTV said:
What our sarcastic friend Terepin is trying to say is that you can't really use the SD card as an extension of your phone's internal memory without using an A2SD ROM.
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Not to be too pedantic but data2sd too. Still needs root
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Data2sd, needs root. Now I got 1gb internal storage
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Thank you all...

ricksvill said:
Thank you all...
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Root your phone mate, and then use a RoM with data2SD If you want to stay with HTC sense then I recommend Droidzones RoMs.
This one is Sense 2.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1143456
And this one is Sense 1.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045824
Note you will need a SD card class 4 and above, Read up about Gparted after you have Rooted your phone this will let you partition your Sd card Giving you upto 2GB internal Memory.
If your bored of HTC Sense, I recommend MIUI RoM its superb
Good luck

HUummm... why is it always so hard for me?
I tried to root with un Revoked which I have used in the past but that failed because I have 2.3.3 installed.
I then went back to my Froyo RUU but that failed because of the H Boot.
Finally I rooted with http://revolutionary.io and now need to sort myself out with a ROM.

Just a note: you don't need Gparted for ext partition. You can either format your entire card with CWM, or you can use free partition manager EASUS Partition Master Home to create ext3 partition and then convert it with alignement script from coolexe. It certainly saves time.

Terepin said:
Just a note: you don't need Gparted for ext partition. You can either format your entire card with CWM, or you can use free partition manager EASUS Partition Master Home to create ext3 partition and then convert it with alignement script from coolexe. It certainly saves time.
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Only down side to using recovery its max size is 512MB. EASUS dont like because its windows app, I find it best to use Gparted because its Linux witch android its self is based on.

ricksvill said:
HUummm... why is it always so hard for me?
I tried to root with un Revoked which I have used in the past but that failed because I have 2.3.3 installed.
I then went back to my Froyo RUU but that failed because of the H Boot.
Finally I rooted with http://revolutionary.io and now need to sort myself out with a ROM.
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Just give some Roms ago mate, you dont like you can always jump to another one. if its more space you want look for RoMs with data2sd or data2ext.

I repartitioned my sdcard using 4ExtRecovery. 1gb ext4, and128k swap. Brilliant themable recovery.
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shankly1985 said:
Just give some Roms ago mate, you dont like you can always jump to another one. if its more space you want look for RoMs with data2sd or data2ext.
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Hi everybody,
got the same problem as the person who started this thread with the memory issues. Done everything except install a custom rom, which I am about to do.
(note: currently 0n 2.3.3)
Currently have CM 7.1 downloaded on computer and going to install....BUT every instruction i see requires me to have rom manager/ clockworkmod recovery. HOWEVER, I can't install these because ''this app can't be installed in your country''. unfortunately used to this.
So does anyone by chance have any links to instructions or have instructions of how I can install this without downloading any apps, hopefully an idiot proof version.(Not worried about saving a recovery etc....phone is basically blank.)
Also would CM 7.1 be a good start?? Is there any easier rom to install that still has the apps2sd feature which is the primary point of doing all this( maybe miui).
Thanks in advance for any help.
Regards,
rkdeane

Everything you need is in the Desire Developement forum - STICKY!
You don't apps, just root (S-OFF is a good choice too) and custom recovery (like CWM, AmonRa).
Sent from my customized HTC Desire using TTP

Swap Parition ?

Hello. I am new to this forum. I am curious how many people really use a swap partition and what is the method of of using swap in htc wildire s?
I am well aware of Linux OS and understand the need of swap but in case of android does it really improves something?

Hi.I will try to explain you what i know: :laugh:
-swap partition is needed to work some ROM's,combinated with ext partitions.
-you can create swap partition with MiniToolWizard
-in same time,you can create with CWM recovery.
If you need,i will give you a link for MiniTool.
If i helped you,please click "Thank's" button.Have a nice day !!

Does android automatically detect SWAP Partition on SD Card and utilize it automatically?

Yes(i think).
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does it? i thought the kernel had to had zram enabeled to allow swap use? i might be wrong though..

Most roms auto-detect, but I'd recommend checking with the devs before partitioning your sd card.
Also, unless you have a class 6 or upwards, it won't really do any good.

omnomnomkimiiee said:
Most roms auto-detect, but I'd recommend checking with the devs before partitioning your sd card.
Also, unless you have a class 6 or upwards, it won't really do any good.
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Where did u find that info?? Is class 4 mmc that bad????:s

never use a swap partition on any android phones. It does no good. The swap partition are made with your sd card which is more than 10 times slower than your internal memory. When an app is loaded or is sent to swap partition cache memory, it takes time to copy or load the files.
Android already has a system for moving unused apps to cache memory. So, let android do its job.
Sent from Hell!!

.xxx. said:
never use a swap partition on any android phones. It does no good. The swap partition are made with your sd card which is more than 10 times slower than your internal memory. When an app is loaded or is sent to swap partition cache memory, it takes time to copy or load the files.
Android already has a system for moving unused apps to cache memory. So, let android do its job.
Sent from Hell!!
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Well thats some info for me thanks a lot.

.xxx. said:
never use a swap partition on any android phones. It does no good. The swap partition are made with your sd card which is more than 10 times slower than your internal memory. When an app is loaded or is sent to swap partition cache memory, it takes time to copy or load the files.
Android already has a system for moving unused apps to cache memory. So, let android do its job.
Sent from Hell!!
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This can make phone slower? Just that ?
How can i know if the swap partition is enable ?(i don't know if i have a swapt partition,i forgot that)
And if i have,all i need is to delete this ,just that ?Or i need to reinstall the rom ?

edu_stoicescu said:
This can make phone slower? Just that ?
How can i know if the swap partition is enable ?(i don't know if i have a swapt partition,i forgot that)
And if i have,all i need is to delete this ,just that ?Or i need to reinstall the rom ?
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Just ignore his comment. We need Linux swap. Without it phone gets laggy. I tested it myself.
Download minitool partition wizard home edition. Its free Google it. After installing it and insert ur sdcard via card reader and run the program.it will show ur partitions.
You don't need to uninstall ur system. Just make nandroid backup using recovery. Re format only the ext and swap partition. Based on wat ext u had earlier. All partitions should be primary.
Then from advance recovery restore sd-ext.
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@Edu: just search xda for details of swap partition. There have been number of discussions regarding it and all have ended up denying the use of swap partition. These have been comfirmed by much experienced devs, who have been cooking roms for more than 3 years. But still if you dont believe, i would recommend you to google a little and then make the decision.
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@Edu: just search xda for details of swap partition. There have been number of discussions regarding it and all have ended up denying the use of swap partition. These have been comfirmed by much experienced devs, who have been cooking roms for more than 3 years. But still if you dont believe, i would recommend you to google a little and then make the decision.
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But sir without it the phone gets very laggy. Means every games run slower. The antutu gpu score gets lowered.
U can easily get 645-630 3D with swap. But without it u can't cross 615. That may seem as little gain but for games it becomes a big issue.
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Sorry couldn't upload the pics as modify isnt supporting upload of pic.

finance.resat said:
Sorry couldn't upload the pics as modify isnt supporting upload of pic.
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Maybe that is because the extra cache memory are directly transferred to swap memory. Games which require huge cache memory can be of profit. thanks for the screens btw
@op : just take nand back up and back up your sd card. Try the swap partition thing and if it is beneficial, go ahead or else you know what to do
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Swap Partition
Hi, i'm new here so i'ld really appreciate anyone who can really help me on this:
I created a swap partition(256mb) on my sd card for my HTC wfs. now after making series of research on swap partition, i found out that swap parttion is necessarily not needed and even if i av to use the 256mb i allocated is too much. Now i need help on how to delete the swap partition without losing my DATA ON MY SDCARD. PLEASE ANYONE WITH THE RIGHT HELP

lakesYde said:
Hi, i'm new here so i'ld really appreciate anyone who can really help me on this:
I created a swap partition(256mb) on my sd card for my HTC wfs. now after making series of research on swap partition, i found out that swap parttion is necessarily not needed and even if i av to use the 256mb i allocated is too much. Now i need help on how to delete the swap partition without losing my DATA ON MY SDCARD. PLEASE ANYONE WITH THE RIGHT HELP
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that's kinda not possible i guess..with mini partition tool you can delete swap or ext3 partition and create ext4 visa versa..but if you wanted only fat32 it isn't possible.
either if you have ext3 or ext4..open mini partiiton tool..delete swap and delete ext3 or ext4(which one you have)
and create partition(ext3 or ext4) from remaining free space...in this your fat32 will be unchanged..
but obviously ext3/4 will be deleted..bt its okay to hv swap partition..256 MB hasn't big space..the whole concept of swap derived frm link2sd i guess..latest int2ext scripts dont need swap..but int2extv2+ need.

lakesYde said:
Hi, i'm new here so i'ld really appreciate anyone who can really help me on this:
I created a swap partition(256mb) on my sd card for my HTC wfs. now after making series of research on swap partition, i found out that swap parttion is necessarily not needed and even if i av to use the 256mb i allocated is too much. Now i need help on how to delete the swap partition without losing my DATA ON MY SDCARD. PLEASE ANYONE WITH THE RIGHT HELP
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Copy all of your data to your pc, then format the card via clockworkmod recovery. It should remove the partition. If not you can try gparted for linux or easeus partition master for windows pal.
If your trying to keep your ext partition but without a swap then copy your data to the pc, then select partition sdcard from clockworkmod recovery. Just don't select a swap and you will be fine
Oh, and make a nandroid backup to back up whats on your ext partition
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crossfire77 said:
that's kinda not possible i guess..with mini partition tool you can delete swap or ext3 partition and create ext4 visa versa..but if you wanted only fat32 it isn't possible.
either if you have ext3 or ext4..open mini partiiton tool..delete swap and delete ext3 or ext4(which one you have)
and create partition(ext3 or ext4) from remaining free space...in this your fat32 will be unchanged..
but obviously ext3/4 will be deleted..bt its okay to hv swap partition..256 MB hasn't big space..the whole concept of swap derived frm link2sd i guess..latest int2ext scripts dont need swap..but int2extv2+ need.
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thanks dude really appreciate but going by what you said i have ext3 and already used a2sd that means if i delete ext3 definately i'll lose my data. that is what i'm trying to avoid but since you said my 256mb aint much a big deal, i think i wld leave it then.
Thanks a bunch.
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heavy_metal_man said:
Copy all of your data to your pc, then format the card via clockworkmod recovery. It should remove the partition. If not you can try gparted for linux or easeus partition master for windows pal.
If your trying to keep your ext partition but without a swap then copy your data to the pc, then select partition sdcard from clockworkmod recovery. Just don't select a swap and you will be fine
Oh, and make a nandroid backup to back up whats on your ext partition
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obviously i will lose my data......thanks anyway.

[Q] Partition SD card

Ok kinda weird question, but hey I want to know. Scoured the other XDA forums n found nothing real solid. On our Inc2 through any recovery I've noticed partition SD card. What does this do? What are good numbers to use if done? Benefits if any? Thanx

It allows you to use sd external partitions for installing more apps. Gives you more data. Use an app like link2sd after you partition to create your mount scripts. Then you can use the app to create symlinks for things in your data partition. I have a lot of stuff installed that I would normally not have space for.

Un1c0de said:
It allows you to use sd external partitions for installing more apps. Gives you more data. Use an app like link2sd after you partition to create your mount scripts. Then you can use the app to create symlinks for things in your data partition. I have a lot of stuff installed that I would normally not have space for.
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Only part that is kinda confusing, to me at least, is when it asks the amount of space used or size of the partition. Any idea whats a good starting point or set of numbers for an Inc2?

FordNate said:
Only part that is kinda confusing, to me at least, is when it asks the amount of space used or size of the partition. Any idea whats a good starting point or set of numbers for an Inc2?
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depends on how many apps and stuff you plan on installing, honestly, you shouldnt need it
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I used a 2 gb partition. I have a 32gb card installed. I think 1gb would have been good. I still have a lot about 400mb free on internal data and about the same on sd-ext.

FordNate said:
Ok kinda weird question, but hey I want to know. Scoured the other XDA forums n found nothing real solid. On our Inc2 through any recovery I've noticed partition SD card. What does this do? What are good numbers to use if done? Benefits if any? Thanx
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I did the same as Un1c0de, 2gb on a 16gb card and same result. I dont even think I used a full gb. I guess nice to have in case I go app crazy. lol

[Q] how to turn SD into into internal memory?

OK so I looked at a similar thread to this but I don't think I understood nor do I believe its right Ford what I want to do.I was wanting to put stock ICS on my phone but to do so will leave me with (roughly) 20 megabytes of storage left. I have been told there is a way of tricking the OS into believing the SD is internal storage I have looked on the internet and here as well and found nothing therefore I was wondering if you guys could help me out in accomplishing this. any feedback is both welcome and appreciated thanks

flash the rom, flash gapps, and on the first boot go to play store and install mounts2sd, configure it to reverse mount and select apps, data and dalvik. voila

Android01001 said:
OK so I looked at a similar thread to this but I don't think I understood nor do I believe its right Ford what I want to do.I was wanting to put stock ICS on my phone but to do so will leave me with (roughly) 20 megabytes of storage left. I have been told there is a way of tricking the OS into believing the SD is internal storage I have looked on the internet and here as well and found nothing therefore I was wondering if you guys could help me out in accomplishing this. any feedback is both welcome and appreciated thanks
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Yes this can be done quite easily using a script called a2sd or another like it.
First you need to create a ext4 partition on your sd card. It's highly recommended to use gparted(look around for guides)
Then flash a rom that has a2sd support. If you want ics/jb, I'd recommend the rom in my signature...it's great and works well with a2sd
Once in the rom, open terminal emulator and type
su
a2sd install
y
n
y
From then on all apps that you install will be moved to your sd-ext partition.

Thanks.

Android01001 said:
Thanks.
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but we need faster sd cards right?
Current ROM - Paranoidandroid 3.10 running JB 4.2.2

anilbollina said:
but we need faster sd cards right?
Current ROM - Paranoidandroid 3.10 running JB 4.2.2
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Only if you put data on sdcard
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sywats said:
Only if you put data on sdcard
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Yeah with HTC Desire i would definitely do that so i guess i shall get a class 10 card then

anilbollina said:
Yeah with HTC Desire i would definitely do that so i guess i shall get a class 10 card then
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I only put apps on ext and leave app data on internal I have plenty of space
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hey everyone,
i have a similar problem. i partitioned my sdcard into fat32 and ext4 for apps. i'm using "VJ CM10.1 | Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - v5.1" and ran the script as described in the thread (and posted here by chromium96). if i now go to system, app management and try to move an application (i tried several) to sdcard then this option is greyed out. further he shows me under app management, usb storage that no app is installed on usb (correct) but the space used seems to be my fat32 partition (he shows me 1,8gb as used which is the used space on my fat32, my ext4 is blank). is this normal or am i doing sth wrong? any suggestions?

s4scha said:
hey everyone,
i have a similar problem. i partitioned my sdcard into fat32 and ext4 for apps. i'm using "VJ CM10.1 | Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - v5.1" and ran the script as described in the thread (and posted here by chromium96). if i now go to system, app management and try to move an application (i tried several) to sdcard then this option is greyed out. further he shows me under app management, usb storage that no app is installed on usb (correct) but the space used seems to be my fat32 partition (he shows me 1,8gb as used which is the used space on my fat32, my ext4 is blank). is this normal or am i doing sth wrong? any suggestions?
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Apps move automatically to sd-ext. You don't need to move them manually.

Flash int2ext4V2 script.. And u can use ur full ext..
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abaaaabbbb63 said:
Apps move automatically to sd-ext. You don't need to move them manually.
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its a bit confusing because if i open app desciption i can see that "usb-storage-app" and "usb-storage-data" both have 0 Byte (i assumed that this is the information for the data used by the app on the sdcard).

Internal memory[Solved]

Who can make me a tutorial about increasing internal memory? (My WFS is rooted). I know there is a way to make smth with sd card i think. I just want a way to increase internal memory.
Thx for reading and your help will be appreciated!
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robertino100 said:
Who can make me a tutorial about increasing internal memory? (My WFS is rooted). I know there is a way to make smth with sd card i think. I just want a way to increase internal memory.
Thx for reading and your help will be appreciated!
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FIRST OF ALL STOP POSTING THE SAME THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN ALREADY POSTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SECOND TRY AND ASK UNCLE GOOGLE
THIRDLY THANK ME FOR GUIDING YOU IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION!!!

hussey08 said:
FIRST OF ALL STOP POSTING THE SAME THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN ALREADY POSTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SECOND TRY AND ASK UNCLE GOOGLE
THIRDLY THANK ME FOR GUIDING YOU IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION!!!
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You are so angry man. Calm down please!
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robertino100 said:
Who can make me a tutorial about increasing internal memory? (My WFS is rooted). I know there is a way to make smth with sd card i think. I just want a way to increase internal memory.
Thx for reading and your help will be appreciated!
Sent from my Wildfire S A510e using XDA Free mobile app
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Try this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716124 and let me know if you run into any problems.
PS1 : Try to give the full details of your phone ( like ROM you are using and stuff ). May be it helps to guide you in a perfect direction.
PS2 : Googling the issue may save your and our time :silly:

Something that worked for me was removing apps I didnt use with Link2Sd, and merging updated system apps into system. Then moved everything else to SD and. Hope it helps!

Storage full using int2ext+, Stock ROM with cool features and only 370MB used
I'm using Crossfire77's great Stock ROM with Cool Features, plus Int2Ext+ and EXT3 partition. I've limited my applications to a total of 370MB out of a 970MB partition, and I'm still running into storage problems. If I try to click on a browser link, for example, the browser won't open with a "Storage full" error message. I note that background apps like AVAST will also force close at times.
Any ideas regarding the problem and solution?
Thanks.

lainhk said:
I'm using Crossfire77's great Stock ROM with Cool Features, plus Int2Ext+ and EXT3 partition. I've limited my applications to a total of 370MB out of a 970MB partition, and I'm still running into storage problems. If I try to click on a browser link, for example, the browser won't open with a "Storage full" error message. I note that background apps like AVAST will also force close at times.
Any ideas regarding the problem and solution?
Thanks.
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INT2EXT+ keeps data/data in the internal storage rather than in the EXT partition, this results in faster performance. This folder contains data of your installed apps. The "Storage full" error comes because of increased data files either due to a big app or a installing a lot of apps. So 350MB is actually the max you should fill in this script
If you want to make full use of the EXT partition, use INT2EXT scripts(without the +), but you will have to sacrifice a bit of speed for storage

Solved. I have partitioned my sdcard using cwm recovery(512 mb out of 3966mb allocated to ext partition) and then installing int2ext4+. Works fine.
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Internal memory
So that means that there is only ~70MB of internal memory available after what the ROM itself uses? Wow, that is lower than I'd expected, even after having removed as much of the HTC bloatware as possible. Perhaps to set expectation appropriately for the WFS, when describing the INT2EXT+ script, instead of saying that 100MB of internal memory is needed for every 500MB of total memory, it would be better to say that 50MB of internal memory is needed for every 250MB if total memory! Thanks.

robertino100 said:
Solved. I have partitioned my sdcard using cwm recovery(512 mb out of 3966mb allocated to ext partition) and then installing int2ext4+. Works fine.
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How can you increased your int memory?

Aditroid said:
Try this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716124 and let me know if you run into any problems.
PS1 : Try to give the full details of your phone ( like ROM you are using and stuff ). May be it helps to guide you in a perfect direction.
PS2 : Googling the issue may save your and our time :silly:
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Is first method successful?

robertino100 said:
Who can make me a tutorial about increasing internal memory? (My WFS is rooted). I know there is a way to make smth with sd card i think. I just want a way to increase internal memory.
Thx for reading and your help will be appreciated!
Sent from my Wildfire S A510e using XDA Free mobile app
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black screen solution thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27735843#post27735843
increasing internal storage thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVsbY9pVCH4