I've gone through and read about problems with the wifi on the GN, how its weak sometimes.
But what I've noticed is that it has terrible reception when I'm holding it in portrait view (about 1 bar) but will jump up to full bars if I hold it in landscape or set it down.
Could it just be my phone or has anyone else noticed this?
I'm running Jellybean, Are you Jellin rom I think. Applied the Wifi fix there was for the rom, but still get bad reception on it at times.
Depending how you hold it, you'll be covering the WiFi antenna more or less. This is completely normal. The iPhone 4/4S isn't the only phone that suffers form antenna issues when holding it "the wrong way". All phones will see degraded radio reception of some sort when holding it that way.
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Overall, my area has a pretty good signal, but I live in a slight black spot, and my modern house with its foil lined walls does nothing to improve the situation. None of my phones have ever got a decent signal in the hous.
But I have observed a troublesome trend with the new Desire. If I leave the phone lying around on a shelf, the phone shows 2-3 bars of signal. If I make a call, the phone usually holds the call OK.
But if I pik the phone up to mess about with and dont immediately make a call, while I am holding the phone the signal will drop to zero, no service; and it doesn't come back, not until I put the phone back on the shelf.
Could it be that HTC are being too agressive with power management? Or could this be the same fault as has been reported in the Google Nexus?
It is entirely repeatable, to the point that I can demonstrate it to people.
What do other people in weak areas find?
Hi,
Is it exactly the same like the below demonstration of Nexus One signal drop?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEIA_lMwqJA
So far as that goes, yes, exactly the same.
What he doesn't do is test for less drop if a call is active. The phone appears to try harder to maintain the signal if a call is in progress.
AMAZING. Isn't it. So much talk about so many subjects, but no-one interested in how it actually performs as a PHONE!
This might be related to location of the GSM anthena on Desire and Nexus. Try to move your hand bit more up so you don't touch the bottom back part and check if there is any difference.
I would rather guess the described behaviour of a phone is perfectly normal with all phones under bad conditions. Happened to me with all my phones so far.
I have had my new Desire for 2 days now. It is the telstra version (australia) (which also has the non working GPS).
I am using my postpaid telstra sim in it which was previously in my blackberry 9700 which is NEXTG capable.
I have found the reception to be noticeably poorer. My BB would show full 5 bars and would never drop a call or have any issues with calls breaking up and being unable to hear the other person. The actual 'bars' was about 2 out of 4 for the android. it is 5/5 for the BB. The android signal strength meter shows anywhere from -90 dBm to -105 dBm in the same spot. My BB9700 shows -70 dBm !!! in the same spot with the same sim!!! -70 is as good as it gets.
for example today, i had trouble maintaining a conversation for more than a few minutes without it breaking up and having to repeat myself a few times. This happened at least on 2 separate phone calls with the desire. Granted, it never cut the connection completely.
i got sick of it because i was on call and had to be able to be contactable 100% so I swapped the sim in to the BB and continued on my conversation – 30 minute conversation without a hint of an issue.
I have always found the BB to be the ultimate in the phone department – but i was seduced by the pretty screen and graphics of the Desire and also the integration with google apps – which i use a lot of.
I also note that people have been complainng about the nexus one over in the US of A regarding the reception quality too. I bet it is the same thing.
The call quality is quite good though. The speakerphone is crap though.
The other bits of the phone are great – screen, speed, apps, and everything else everyone said was good... though i havent heard anyone complaining about the reception
Just want to know if anyone else is having similar experiences and if it is just me. Can ppl with phones that can show signal strength objectively (i.e. dBm measurements) look into a comparison? and also state what network you are on?
Im now thinking it is too unreliable to use as my primary phone... which is too bad. I hope it is a matter of a software update or somesuch to fix this. The price one pays to be an early adopter.
I suspect this applies to your Desire?
bloody hell... same thing happened when i tried what that dude did... pick up the damn thing and the signal goes to hell
devastating.... this is sad.
It's because the antenna is at the bottom, and you're most likely covering it with your hand when you pick it up.
It's quite worrying this sort of hardware design flaw wasn't spotted by HTC. I too can confirm it happens on mind has well....at least I know how to hold it now!
This thing really is a nexus one+sense huh? It even copies the 3g coverage issue.
I just tried that and found the same problem...that is really a big problem.
hi, even if that shown in the video partially occurs to me as well I can't say I'm noticing any difference with my old handset (touch hd)
I have currently got an O2 simcard in my desire with GPRS reception only.
I do not have that issue, will try with my orange 3g sim as well.
Has anyone a work around or advice for this?
Held tight in the palm I lose bars, held to the head I don't - enough of a different grip when actually using for a call. Cupped in the fingers rather than the palm, no loss.
I have the sim free desire bought from UK, and I'm using the optus prepaid sim. There is no problem for me at all.
Maybe update the radio would fix the issue, but it seems no radio update atm.
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HTC Desire Bad reception Solved!!
Hi All,
I recently bought a second hand HTC Desire and had the same thing: Bad Reception.
I tried EVERYTHING, Rom's, Radio's, Task-killers, etc. but I found the reason was something completely different!
Now my Desire has FULL 4 bars reception: What did I do?
Remove the battery cover, take out the battery, unscrew the two small Torx screws at the bottom left and right.
These two screws hold the antenna cover which is actually the antenna itself!!
You will find two spring-loaded contacts at the left of the phone on the circuitboard: these are the antenna contacts. Pry them up al little bit and clean them with some alcohol.
Now clean the two grey contact surfaces in the antenne. Do not use any scratching tool, but use a small pencil eraser!! The surface will stay a bit grey, but this is normal.
Now you are done!
Put the antenna back in place (bottom first) and put the 2 screws back.
Boot your phone and you will have good (4 bar) reception like before.
If you want to check?
Before you do anything "dial" *#*#4636#*#* , choose "Phone Information" and look at the signal strength.
The lower the number of dBm the better the signal.
Same as: the higher the ASU the better the signal.
Do the same after cleaning and you will see the result.
Succes to you all!
Extra: The antenna is at the bottom of the phone, poor design choice, we all know.
However:before -when holding the phone- the Signal Strength went from -103 dBm tot -119 dBm and then to 0, meaning losing the connection completely.
Now, the reception at the same location when holding the phone goes from -79 dBm to -85 dBm still holding 4 bars and having good reception.
My guess is that with all the Desire's these contacts corrode over time, so cleaning does help to get the phone back in it's original condition..
Satbeginner said:
Hi All,
I recently bought a second hand HTC Desire and had the same thing: Bad Reception.
I tried EVERYTHING, Rom's, Radio's, Task-killers, etc. but I found the reason was something completely different!
Now my Desire has FULL 4 bars reception: What did I do?
Remove the battery cover, take out the battery, unscrew the two small Torx screws at the bottom left and right.
These two screws hold the antenna cover which is actually the antenna itself!!
You will find two spring-loaded contacts at the left of the phone on the circuitboard: these are the antenna contacts. Pry them up al little bit and clean them with some alcohol.
Now clean the two grey contact surfaces in the antenne. Do not use any scratching tool, but use a small pencil eraser!! The surface will stay a bit grey, but this is normal.
Now you are done!
Put the antenna back in place (bottom first) and put the 2 screws back.
Boot your phone and you will have good (4 bar) reception like before.
If you want to check?
Before you do anything "dial" *#*#4636#*#* , choose "Phone Information" and look at the signal strength.
The lower the number of dBm the better the signal.
Same as: the higher the ASU the better the signal.
Do the same after cleaning and you will see the result.
Succes to you all!
Extra: The antenna is at the bottom of the phone, poor design choice, we all know.
However:before -when holding the phone- the Signal Strength went from -103 dBm tot -119 dBm and then to 0, meaning losing the connection completely.
Now, the reception at the same location when holding the phone goes from -79 dBm to -85 dBm still holding 4 bars and having good reception.
My guess is that with all the Desire's these contacts corrode over time, so cleaning does help to get the phone back in it's original condition..
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I did the same thing when I was struggling with poor GPS - opened the phone and bent all contacts a little bit. Confirm that my (or my wife's more accurately) Desire now has outstanding GPS, 2G and 3G signal. This screenshot shows the two contacts mentioned by Satbeginner.
It is worth mentioning though - if your phone is still under warranty and has never been opened this procedure will void your warranty - you have to break a seal on one of the two screws to remove the antenna.
EVO Brethren,
My signal will bounce from 4 bars to NONE and back to 2 then 4. Apparently it does so during calls too because I can't talk more than a few minutes before it'll drop. At work it'll bounce from 2 to NONE all day which just drains my battery like mad.
I'm using the latest radio and have tried reflashing it. I'm pretty sure this has always happened even on the older radio. Is Sprint service really this terrible or is there something I can do to fix this?
I can't help you with your problem, other than to say that it won't happen when you are within good service coverage.
I have the same hyperactive signal bar inside my home where I get terrible service (3 bars max when the moon is just right). The signal with jump to full bars and then drop to one or zero.
I would assume that it's the radio trying to boost your signal by cranking up the power. It probably works for a second before the phone realizes that to maintain more than 3 bars of service, the radio would require a nuclear reactor to power it, and therefore promptly lowers the power to the radio.
I have no idea, thats just my guess. When I'm in great coverage it has no problem holding bars, bad coverage - crazy dancing routine.
Okay, so last night I successfully replaced the charging port on my Note 2. It wasn't malfunctioning, it was just extremely loose and was hard to keep a charging cable in.
Before putting the device back together I made sure the antenna cable and all other cables were plugged in and snug.
Since the repair , my device seems to be getting horrid data. Normally I would get LTE speeds of 20mbps+ up and about 10 down, now I'm getting 5mbps down and about .05mbps up....
The signal in the status bar goes from LTE to 3g and DC (cyanogen mod, not sure what that means).
The first night I didn't notice any problems as I was at home and connected to my home WiFi network. But when I woke up the signal was awful. I can make calls and text sometimes, in some area the signal bar has an X over and has no signal at all.
Has anyone experienced this or have an idea of what might be wrong?
Any help at all would be greatly appreciated!!!
P.s. the replacement part was specifically for my device, t889.
Okay, so this morning I downloaded and flashed the most recent modem for my phone and the signal strength seems stable, LTE download speeds are around 25 to 30mbps and my signal isnt constantly switching around. However the upload speeds are still around .01 - .05 mbps which is nothing compared to my old speeds of around 5mpbs - 7mbps.
I honestly have no idea how the hardware interacts in the phone, but would the charging port that I replaced possibly be faulty? I know the antenna cable plugs into it, and it has me thinking there is some part on it that is malfunctioning. But all this is just a guess.
I'd really appreciate any feedback.
Thank you.
Has anyone else noticed that when you hold the HTC 10 without a case in your hand a certain way, your signal drops 1-2 bars and 5dBm or more? I was holding mine this morning one way, adjust my hand, and noticed a huge drop in signal. When I stop holding it the signal jumps up another 1-2 bars. I'm not talking about going from no grip to a death grip, just holding it by it's sides to also holding it up from the bottom seems to cause it.
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I held mine in every way possible and not even 1 bar dropped. Could it be your location/service? Or defect?
Considering that wireless signal strength isn't static AND unless you're specifically watching the signal DB you can't rely on signal bars I'd not be too worried about it unless we see many users reporting the same thing.
So yes, holding it differently could give the impression of differing signal performance but in reality, unless it's defective it shouldn't be an issue.
Just tried every which way. No issues for me. I have the VZW model if it makes any difference
geoff5093 said:
Has anyone else noticed that when you hold the HTC 10 without a case in your hand a certain way, your signal drops 1-2 bars and 5dBm or more? I was holding mine this morning one way, adjust my hand, and noticed a huge drop in signal. When I stop holding it the signal jumps up another 1-2 bars. I'm not talking about going from no grip to a death grip, just holding it by it's sides to also holding it up from the bottom seems to cause it.
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I picked mine up right now after reading and I gained 2 bars Verizon
I just tried to replicate it and couldn't. Tried a bunch of hand positions. No issues here.
What I experienced earlier was around a -90dBm signal when it was laying flat on a desk, then it jumped up to -110 when I held it a certain wait. I moved my hand around and saw it fluctuate between -105 and -110. I tried it at work and I couldn't replicate it, strange...
geoff5093 said:
What I experienced earlier was around a -90dBm signal when it was laying flat on a desk, then it jumped up to -110 when I held it a certain wait. I moved my hand around and saw it fluctuate between -105 and -110. I tried it at work and I couldn't replicate it, strange...
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I had the same thing. I thought I had this issue, but had to dismiss the idea. The more I tested, the less my hypothesis held up. All of my testing happened at the same time, too. It seemed like for 5 minutes or so everytime i completely covered the antenna band at the top, that signal would drop. But after that first few minutes, my hand stopped having an impact, so I chalked it up to either an anomaly or a coincidence.
You are holding it wrong