Will The Droid Inc Ever Get a 3.0.X.X. Kernel?
Officially? Highly doubtful. That doesn't stop someone from porting it, though.
PonsAsinorem said:
Officially? Highly doubtful. That doesn't stop someone from porting it, though.
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Official Is Over rated xDD.
I'm talking about a dev compiling a 3.0.X Kernel, it'll make everything else run smoother.
ericerk said:
Official Is Over rated xDD.
I'm talking about a dev compiling a 3.0.X Kernel, it'll make everything else run smoother.
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It wouldn't be worth the work. I have been told by a few kernel devs that it would create more problems.
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Albinoman said:
It wouldn't be worth the work. I have been told by a few kernel devs that it would create more problems.
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The Droid 3 has kexec 3.0.8 Kernel.
We have an unlocked boot loader with 2.6.x.x. its kinda sad.
Then again this phone is 2 years old. But i just don't want to see this little device die.
A hybrid 2.6.38/3.0.x kernel might be possible, although it still wouldn't be a pure 3.0.x kernel. One of the problems is that we don't have 3.0.x kernel drivers for the HTC incredible.
jellybellys said:
A hybrid 2.6.38/3.0.x kernel might be possible, although it still wouldn't be a pure 3.0.x kernel. One of the problems is that we don't have 3.0.x kernel drivers for the HTC incredible.
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Wouldn't that help performance in ics roms and higher?
ericerk said:
Wouldn't that help performance in ics roms and higher?
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Possibly. The jellybean interactive governor could improve performance with a small drop in battery life or you could just use the performance governor to help smooth things out. Newer version does not always mean better or faster especially with old devices.
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I know I need a Kernel that supports overclocking before I use something like CPUBoost... which one can anyone recommend that is stable and would allow this.
Sorry this is my first time posting in this forum... was using the Eris up until yesterday.
Thanks in advance.
drtchocky said:
I know I need a Kernel that supports overclocking before I use something like CPUBoost... which one can anyone recommend that is stable and would allow this.
Sorry this is my first time posting in this forum... was using the Eris up until yesterday.
Thanks in advance.
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It's all preference, depends on if you are using an AOSP rom or Sense rom. Try them out for yourself and then decide, everyone gets different results.
I'm just throwing this out there we can only overclock our phones a wee bit and it for me at least destroys battery life.
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I am looking to underclock for the most part with screen off settings.... I want to get a full day out of this phone somehow.
drtchocky said:
I am looking to underclock for the most part with screen off settings.... I want to get a full day out of this phone somehow.
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honestly you could probably get away with just installing some of the AOSP kernels floating around the Dev threads...I LOVE invisibleks line of kernels, #28 is a champion for me...but I believe the new Tiamat line of kernels is concentrating on aggressive undervolting...I would give them a try
Might try that... it's weird, coming from an Eris, there's definitely a more professional way about this forum. BUT (big but).... the ROM's seems to be overall more incomplete and I am worried about losing somee functionality. So installing a Kernel would be my best bet I guess.... being I would retain all the functionality of the stock ROM.
Hope I make sense.
Oh the other thing is... when a kernel is AOSP compatible, that means stock ROM also right?
drtchocky said:
Oh the other thing is... when a kernel is AOSP compatible, that means stock ROM also right?
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Nope. Stock is sense.
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PonsAsinorem said:
Nope. Stock is sense.
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well I installed a Kernel that was AOSP compatible and it seems to be working.... weird?
Hi,
Now I did search as much as possible on the interwebs, like tiamat's blog, xda, miui forums etc. So I guess I'll go ahead and ask this sorta noob question eek: oh no he didn't ).
Why are there no 3.0 kernels and what would be the advantage of them? On a tangent, I note that even the transformer prime has no 3.0 kernel...
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What in the name of balls is a 3.0 kernel?
Amphibliam said:
What in the name of balls is a 3.0 kernel?
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Linux kernel version 3.x. As in we are currently using kernel version 2.6.35.x.. Galaxy nexus has 3.08 kernel or something.
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We're currently using modified gingerbread kernels (the 2.6 ones i think?) because we havent received kernel source from HTC yet
This phone is slated for an ICS update, once we get that and kernel source i'm pretty sure a 3.0 kernel will follow
It's because we don't have an official update yet. That's what all the ICS roms are pretty much waiting for - an offical ICS kernel from HTC.
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It's because we don't have an official update yet. That's what all the ICS roms are pretty much waiting for - an offical ICS kernel from HTC.
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Okay. So as I understand the kernel will have several proprietary modules and therefore we can't compile our own 3.0 kernel yet? As it may cause several incompatibilities, am I right?
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litetaker said:
Okay. So as I understand the kernel will have several proprietary modules and therefore we can't compile our own 3.0 kernel yet? As it may cause several incompatibilities, am I right?
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No, we just can't compile one because we don't have source.
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tylerlawhon said:
No, we just can't compile one because we don't have source.
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I am confused. The linux kernel is open source. So the Source code for the 3.0 kernel is available. So, what do you mean by "we don't have source"? Are you referring to any drivers whose modules we may not have as they are proprietary? Or something else?
Anyway, I just realized thanks to this article that the 3.0 kernel is no big deal and has no new, "awesome" features and is not a major jump like the GB to ICS, or gnome 2 to gnome 3, or the KDE 3 to KDE 4 jump... Just a new numbering scheme. So, may be the kernel we have now is more than enough to run ICS (except for the camera glitch though...)
Thanks for the responses guys!
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I am confused. The linux kernel is open source. So the Source code for the 3.0 kernel is available. So, what do you mean by "we don't have source"? Are you referring to any drivers whose modules we may not have as they are proprietary? Or something else?
Anyway, I just realized thanks to this article that the 3.0 kernel is no big deal and has no new, "awesome" features and is not a major jump like the GB to ICS, or gnome 2 to gnome 3, or the KDE 3 to KDE 4 jump... Just a new numbering scheme. So, may be the kernel we have now is more than enough to run ICS (except for the camera glitch though...)
Thanks for the responses guys!
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The Linux kernel is, yes. However, a kernel is very device specific. So, without having one from an OTA or better yet, HTC releasing kernel source code for this device specifically, we can't make any. So far (as stated before), all our ics ROMs are using hacked up gingerbread kernels (which is an incredible feat in itself). We have basic kernel source code, sure, but what we're lacking is the proprietary drivers, libs, and other stuff that makes this device run.
Hope this all made sense.
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Each kernel is device specific with the oem s specific changes....it is possible to build one without the.exact source...but you would need some similar source for reference like teamhacksung using the nexus s as a base for sgs phones
tylerlawhon said:
The Linux kernel is, yes. However, a kernel is very device specific. So, without having one from an OTA or better yet, HTC releasing kernel source code for this device specifically, we can't make any. So far (as stated before), all our ics ROMs are using hacked up gingerbread kernels (which is an incredible feat in itself). We have basic kernel source code, sure, but what we're lacking is the proprietary drivers, libs, and other stuff that makes this device run.
Hope this all made sense.
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Yes, this helps me understand it better. Anyway, I'm not really waiting for the 3.0 kernel anymore as I learned it was just a renumbering scheme! I was expecting I could launch a space shuttle with it, like I can drive my car supersonic with ICS (hehehe..) But it apparently has just the usual dose of bug fixes compared to our current kernel.
Thanks y'all!
Hey guys,
recently rooted my phone (for the first time) and flashed CM10. I've been reading about Kernels and how they can improve battery life and performance and stuff.
I haven't really understood how a kernel would work. Can I just flash it like how I flashed a ROM? Would it 'delete' my earlier CM10 kernel?
Which kernels are compatible with CM10? Which is the best for battery life and snappiness of the processor?
I've heard of Lean,PopcornKernal, and of course, francos.
Thanks,
Sahil
All of them are good. There isn't a best kernel. You should really stay away from asking those questions. And if you don't tune the kernel there is no way to get any difference than from stock.
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Im not sure if cm10 requires its own set of kernels but my phone liked the air kernel (ran cooler) and lean (as a bonus removed the purply tint at lower brightness)
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ÜBER™ said:
All of them are good. There isn't a best kernel. You should really stay away from asking those questions. And if you don't tune the kernel there is no way to get any difference than from stock.
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Please explain how you tube your kernel.
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Please explain how you tube your kernel.
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depends on the kernel, on the device and on the user.
mpu/core/iva voltages, smartreflex and color control are a few examples.
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SahilC said:
I haven't really understood how a kernel would work. Can I just flash it like how I flashed a ROM? Would it 'delete' my earlier CM10 kernel?
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kernels are like the engine to a car/rom. They're pretty much what manages and drives everything, whereas the rom is like the entire OS.
Every ROM comes with a kernel by default but it can be replaced simply by flashing a kernel on top of it. Conversely, flashing a rom will replace whatever kernel you're running now with the rom's kernel.
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Please explain how you tube your kernel.
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Many kernels come with their apps (which can be found in their threads), or some apps might have access to some properties. Also, some roms (cm comes to mind) have access to some properties of some kernels, though there was a recent fuss made about incompatibility so its not perfect.
Franco Kernel
Hey guys! I want to root my GN and I'm a bit confused about what Kernel use...
I have seen this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1367341
Did anyone try the newest version of Franco Kernel (r292)? What's about stability, battery drains, lags... ?
I'd recommend trying Franco's kernel out, it is supported by a nice updater app that can auto-flash the kernel and keep you informed of updates. Doing a bit of research yourself is also always recommended here - this site is for learning about your device. Good luck!
James bond kernal claims to be best in battry life , bt acc. To me trinity alpha 67 with setcpu profiles provide best results.
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I'd recommend trying Franco's kernel out, it is supported by a nice updater app that can auto-flash the kernel and keep you informed of updates. Doing a bit of research yourself is also always recommended here - this site is for learning about your device. Good luck!
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OK thanks! I'll test it as soon as!
The Best trinity alpha 67 for 4.1.2. .
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With all this talk about how the gnex can't run 4.4 because ti no longer releases drivers for android and the 3.4 kernel being required, it's making my head spin. I've also heard my phone has always been on 3.4....wait what? Shouldn't all devices with the same android version run the same kernel? Now I'm hearing it's possible to build kitkat with the old kernel.... I'm going to go throw up and pass out...
Really just want some clarification on this subject
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Cor-master said:
With all this talk about how the gnex can't run 4.4 because ti no longer releases drivers for android and the 3.4 kernel being required, it's making my head spin. I've also heard my phone has always been on 3.4....wait what? Shouldn't all devices with the same android version run the same kernel? Now I'm hearing it's possible to build kitkat with the old kernel.... I'm going to go throw up and pass out...
Really just want some clarification on this subject
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1) Our phone's always been on 3.0 kernel, which was announced End Of Life this October.
2) Not necessarily new Android versions need new kernel versions. Even 2.6 kernel can run Android 4.1, which typically requires 3.0 or 3.4 kernel.
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Cor-master said:
With all this talk about how the gnex can't run 4.4 because ti no longer releases drivers for android and the 3.4 kernel being required, it's making my head spin. I've also heard my phone has always been on 3.4....wait what? Shouldn't all devices with the same android version run the same kernel? Now I'm hearing it's possible to build kitkat with the old kernel.... I'm going to go throw up and pass out...
Really just want some clarification on this subject
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At the basic, the KERNEL is the low level base code on which all instructions are set. Lets say is in charge of dictate how things are done, again, at the very low level.
Thus Kernel is only needed if your phone has functions or features that are only found in that Kernel version. Lets say that kernel 3.4 has rules on how manage bluetooth 4.0 LE, but our Galaxy Nexus doesnt have Bluetooth 4.0.(Isnt ???). Those that kernel is not really required.
Things become more complex as you add more variables like memory managment, I/O managment, and those thing that improve over each update and maybe are needed in order to work with newer OS version.
I cant really tell you features that are needed in KitKat 4.4 against Kernel 3.4 not found in Kernel 3.0, so I'm not the man that can tell you if bringin(or the lack of) 4.4 to our GNex is a middle finger from Google or not.
Yeah I got curious about some stuff so I decided to manually look at what kernal every device is running. My 4 is 3.4 now, nexus 7 first gen is 3.1, my wife's nook with cm10.2 is 3.0, and my buddies gnexes are also 3.0, while the kitkat kernal is actually 3.8
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Yeah I got curious about some stuff so I decided to manually look at what kernal every device is running. My 4 is 3.4 now, nexus 7 first gen is 3.1, my wife's nook with cm10.2 is 3.0, and my buddies gnexes are also 3.0, while the kitkat kernal is actually 3.8
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But all AOSP KitKat builds (not ports) for Nexus 4 runs on 3.4. 3.8 is merely a speculation I've seen somewhere.
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AndyYan said:
But all AOSP KitKat builds (not ports) for Nexus 4 runs on 3.4. 3.8 is merely a speculation I've seen somewhere.
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Crazy. So is there any hope for the developer community to build kitkat Roms that fully work for the galaxy nexus or is development dead beyond 4.3 other than experimental builds that stuff like the front camera/GPS/Bluetooth doesn't work?
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They'll have to hack it like jt did for the galaxy S.
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Can anyone make one? I remember when I was rocking my DNA @crpalmer was building his awesome kernel that really improved the phone. I have yet to see that here. His kernel worked for pretty much any CM/AOSP based rom.
123421342 said:
Can anyone make one? I remember when I was rocking my DNA @crpalmer was building his awesome kernel that really improved the phone. I have yet to see that here. His kernel worked for pretty much any CM/AOSP based rom.
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You can check the International HTC One forum. The CM/AOSP kernels there will be compatible.
Flyhalf205 said:
You can check the International HTC One forum. The CM/AOSP kernels there will be compatible.
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Thank you! I will.
Edit: Most of the kernels are either 4.4 or sense only, the one that is 4.3 compatible constantly hot reboots using slimbean.
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Thank you! I will.
Edit: Most of the kernels are either 4.4 or sense only, the one that is 4.3 compatible constantly hot reboots using slimbean.
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Going to make a CM10.2 and 11 version AOSP kernel soon.
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Thank you! I will.
Edit: Most of the kernels are either 4.4 or sense only, the one that is 4.3 compatible constantly hot reboots using slimbean.
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Just tried a 4.4 kernel from there and it worked fine with cm-11.
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You can check the International HTC One forum. The CM/AOSP kernels there will be compatible.
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Is this also the case for the sprint HTC One?
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Leraeniesh said:
Is this also the case for the sprint HTC One?
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No, the Sprint One uses different mount points.
If you flash one of those, your phone will not boot.
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123421342 said:
Can anyone make one? I remember when I was rocking my DNA @crpalmer was building his awesome kernel that really improved the phone. I have yet to see that here. His kernel worked for pretty much any CM/AOSP based rom.
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Not sure if you're looking for a 4.3 or 4.4 kernel, but I use the Vanir Kernel on Illusion Rom which is 4.3 and it is amazing, battery life, performance, everything.
Where in sam hell is this International HTC One forum
Mind posting a link to this forum that has AOSP custom kernels...there are so many variations...it's a bit difficult to sort through it all...and YES I have used the search feature...
If anyone wants to test for me...I'm not much of an AOSP guy...and time is limited with the new baby...so constant flashing isn't viable at the moment. Here is 4.3.1 kernel with no changes (other than build modifications) to the cm10.2 source.
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If anyone wants to test for me...I'm not much of an AOSP guy...and time is limited with the new baby...so constant flashing isn't viable at the moment. Here is 4.3.1 kernel with no changes (other than build modifications) to the cm10.2 source.
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Cool I will flash it and let you know how it works.
edit: bootloops. Does not even boot the rom before rebooting
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Cool I will flash it and let you know how it works.
edit: bootloops. Does not even boot the rom before rebooting
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Awesome. I forked cyanogen's repo directly and it wouldn't build out of the box. So I changed the files necessary for it to build, and it won't boot...frustrating.
Thanks for the input. I will try to revert my changes and get it to build another way.
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brymaster5000 said:
Awesome. I forked cyanogen's repo directly and it wouldn't build out of the box. So I changed the files necessary for it to build, and it won't boot...frustrating.
Thanks for the input. I will try to revert my changes and get it to build another way.
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No worries brother. If you get it working definitely make a thread for it!
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Mind posting a link to this forum that has AOSP custom kernels...there are so many variations...it's a bit difficult to sort through it all...and YES I have used the search feature...
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I believe it's this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one
Not many work for vzw and even fewer for 4.3, the only base that gives me good battery life.
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Not many work for vzw and even fewer for 4.3, the only base that gives me good battery life.
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Hopefully going to get back on this today.
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