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4G Announcement tomorrow

I hope that Dan Hesse walks out on stage with a switch in his hand and says "We now cover the whole U.S. in 4G" and then flips the switch.
I'm currently in Phoenix,AZ where there is no 4G, and 3G that averages about .40mbps. Ive been waiting for 4G since I got the Evo 4G on launch day. Ugh a kid can only hope!

speedy0339 said:
I hope that Dan Hesse walks out on stage with a switch in his hand and says "We now cover the whole U.S. in 4G" and then flips the switch.
I'm currently in Phoenix,AZ where there is no 4G, and 3G that averages about .40mbps. Ive been waiting for 4G since I got the Evo 4G on launch day. Ugh a kid can only hope!
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I know 5th largest city in the nation and no 4g love. I surely thought we would get some before tucson but they have a little by the u of a
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There is an unofficial tower at 7th and bell and I'm getting 5/1.5mbps right now
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Another near kierland
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I have great signal in my neighborhood, but whats the point when I already have wifi here?! My work has 1-2 bars in Houston, averaging 6-7mbps down, 1.5mbps up.

There's 4g around the 10 at 83rd Ave too I just noticed recently. Wish it would stretch out to Goodyear!

Wimax is very dissapointing, I'm hoping to hear an increased 3G bandwidth as well as the expected LTE rollout

Working by I10/91st. Only getting 3.5M/.65Mbps though

Sprint adds Kansas City and Baltimore to list of LTE markets

If you've been waiting to see if your 'hood would be next up for Sprint to bless with a shiny new*LTE networkwe've got some potentially good news: by mid-2012 both Kansas City (regardless of what side of the Kansas / Missouri border you happen to be on) and Baltimore will be online. Those two cities will bring the total number of Sprint LTE markets to six, as they join the previously announced Houston, Dallas, San Antonio and Atlanta. The carrier and CEO Dan Hesse refused to be any more specific about a launch date on today's earnings call, though, we can tell you the service should be launching alongside the*Galaxy Nexus,LG Viper*and a Sierra Wireless mobile hotspot capable of connecting via CDMA, WiMAX and LTE. Check out the PR after the break for more details.Show full PR textBaltimore and Kansas City Sprint Customers to Benefit from 4G LTE and 3G Enhancements in 2012Sprint adds to the list of cities to benefit from new and improved network technology by mid-year
Source: http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...markets/&category=classic&icid=eng_latest_art
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I'm excited since I live in Overland Park. That being said, I won't be enjoying the LTE too much since I have this phone. Guess I'll start saving now.

Oooooo yea!! Will get LTE at my dads business when i go to work for him

I think they should put lte networks into markets that dont have wimax yet. Hint hint Green Bay WI!
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I was a bit shocked KC wasn't announced from the start. I knew or wouldn't take long. I bet they already have lte in Overland Park so they could test the new phones. Plus, the improved cdma will be great. I have horrible signal in my neighborhood(Briarcliff). The airrave helps a lot. Tye funny thing is they mentioned KU vs MU in the press release even though we all know that the chances of playing anymore are slim. Anyways, it is a pointless rivalry. KU sucks just like Johnson County and the rest of those cake eaters. Lol
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Im in independence, mo. and my signal, 4g has always been excellent...so i hope its the same with LTE ...there r perks living close to sprint headquarters
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Baltimore fist pump .......it seems they are lighting the switch to city's that have wimax already.
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I was told a while back it was kind of going to rollout in reverse meaning markets that don't have 4g would get the LTE first then the markets with WiMax would follow. ...in New Jersey now and the 3g has been great here. I haven't tested 4g much since I have Fios in the house..edit..I would imagine the major cities would have to follow very soon after because they need that advertising money...meaning L.A. and New York probably wont be far behind. Jersey represent!
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I was told a while back it was kind of going to rollout in reverse meaning markets that don't have 4g would get the LTE first then the markets with WiMax would follow. ...in New Jersey now and the 3g has been great here. I haven't tested 4g much since I have Fios in the house..edit..I would imagine the major cities would have to follow very soon after because they need that advertising money...meaning L.A. and New York probably wont be far behind. Jersey represent!
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When Hess anounced lte first like 5 months ago when they said that they would be going to lte they would start with areas that never got wimax and what do you know sprint fuxing lies again .... no phoenix on the list ...... but all cities with wimax .... stupid back asswards sprint ...you would think when they were testing lte it was phoenix they tested in with clear ....but don't announce it as one of their first cities ...6th largest in nation always screwed
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I was told a while back it was kind of going to rollout in reverse meaning markets that don't have 4g would get the LTE first then the markets with WiMax would follow. ...in New Jersey now and the 3g has been great here. I haven't tested 4g much since I have Fios in the house..edit..I would imagine the major cities would have to follow very soon after because they need that advertising money...meaning L.A. and New York probably wont be far behind. Jersey represent!
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there's a network vision site in north jersey right now. just googled it... Branchburg, NJ. about an hour drive for me.. but i've been considering making the drive to test it.

I'm fortunate to be in an area where sprint has great coverage, and speeds are really good. I'm usually getting bandwidth test speeds of over 1 mb/s, and sometimes even crest the 2 mb/s mark in the evenings. I rarely use 4G, one because my desk is on the other side of the building from the tower, so the signal barely makes it to my desk, and at home, it isn't all that great, either. I'll be curious to see if my data speeds improve on 3G once the NV initiative hits my neck of the woods. I'm also one of the first metros listed to get LTE when it comes out, but will wait to get a compatiable device until the Galaxy Nexus hits CL/Ebay for a decent discount.

Sprint 3G finally improving?

So I have been horribly frustrated with sprints 3G speeds since I got my epic. I live in metro Detroit. (Fairly large sprint market) and have averaged around 50-75kbps DL. With a 600ms+ ping. And there is ZERO wimax anywhere. I was getting fed up. Until over the last month or so I have seen 600%+ increase in speeds. I now average closer to 500kbps DL with a 111ping. And I have even had consistent tests of 1mb DL. Could this be the first fruits of network vision? Or other tower upgrades? Or somehow less traffic. I had considered it could be the newer ROM/modem. (CM10/FH13). Has anyone else seen recent speed increases?
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So I have been horribly frustrated with sprints 3G speeds since I got my epic. I live in metro Detroit. (Fairly large sprint market) and have averaged around 50-75kbps DL. With a 600ms+ ping. And there is ZERO wimax anywhere. I was getting fed up. Until over the last month or so I have seen 600%+ increase in speeds. I now average closer to 500kbps DL with a 111ping. And I have even had consistent tests of 1mb DL. Could this be the first fruits of network vision? Or other tower upgrades? Or somehow less traffic. I had considered it could be the newer ROM/modem. (CM10/FH13). Has anyone else seen recent speed increases?
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yeah man here in st pete i finally saw a consistent 1 meg down and i was inside ( but near a window) the network map said theres about to be another speed increase here its usually a lie tho.... i doubt its anything permanent sprint fails im moving to straight talk once its all over but im supposed to have lte in my area at the end of my contract and i got employee plan pricing if i have lte at my house then ill keep them if not oh well. could network vision not just be a giant false marketing scheme?
edit well i just did a speed test and im back to the usual 300kbs lol lucky i pay a dial up price and get dial up service XD so i guess not. sprints the most useless unlimited ever. Even living in a wimax area the wimax sucks everywhere but the beach. ( where i dont even need wimax)

I have 5+ months horrible experience with Sprint 3G speed after last two days on roaming service came back this morning better than ever from 0.09Mbps download to 0.89Mbps download huge improvement sadly it last till this evening when service cut off came back horrible as always. :banghead:
At least I know they are working on it.
Arecibo, PR 00612
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Whatever spring says "network vision" is. Clearly they are trying to or want to improve their service. One area they are strong, customer service. But their tech(except phones) sucks. So the question for me is, just like the first guy who replied. Is if they can get LTE working by the time my contract is up. Or at least get 3g solidly above 1mb.. then I would stay no question.
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cknuth said:
Whatever spring says "network vision" is. Clearly they are trying to or want to improve their service. One area they are strong, customer service. But their tech(except phones) sucks. So the question for me is, just like the first guy who replied. Is if they can get LTE working by the time my contract is up. Or at least get 3g solidly above 1mb.. then I would stay no question.
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+1, I have 1 year left on my contract. Next July I will re-evaluate sprint and see how things are going. If sprint stepped up to the plate then bonus I will stay but if its the same ol song and dance crap I am gone. Maybe this xmas I will do that re-evaluate of sprint and see what is up and just maybe I might buy off the rest of my contract, pay a etf and jump ship. But having to pay a extra 10 bucks a month just because of a smart phone crap aka 4g is bull**** considering sprint does not have wimax, 4g, lte or what ever here where I live and 3g is absolutly slower than dial up modem speeds.

Well Sprint Vision says that in the next 6 months a tower will basically be put in my backyard, according to their map. My contract is up in 12 months, I'll make a decision then.

I get 8kb/s out here in Toledo....
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Mine has picked up in some areas the past few weeks but its still crap in other areas and at random times. Its also still much slower than 3G from any other carrier. My Sprint 3G speeds are often similar to Tmobile Edge speeds I had 4 years ago but Edge was more consistent.

Every week my 3G speed changes, today I am getting less than 100kbps when last week or so I was getting almost 600. I am hoping this is due to them upgrading the towers and that is causing the inconsistencies.

Are you using updated maps to see this info or are you just using the maps on Sprint's website?

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So I have been horribly frustrated with sprints 3G speeds since I got my epic. I live in metro Detroit. (Fairly large sprint market) and have averaged around 50-75kbps DL. With a 600ms+ ping. And there is ZERO wimax anywhere. I was getting fed up. Until over the last month or so I have seen 600%+ increase in speeds. I now average closer to 500kbps DL with a 111ping. And I have even had consistent tests of 1mb DL. Could this be the first fruits of network vision? Or other tower upgrades? Or somehow less traffic. I had considered it could be the newer ROM/modem. (CM10/FH13). Has anyone else seen recent speed increases?
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Pretty sure they've actually, finally, started work on Network Vision for our area.
We're supposed to be apart of the network vision plan for the second half of 2012.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-network-visionlte-deployment-running-list/

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Pretty sure they've actually, finally, started work on Network Vision for our area.
We're supposed to be apart of the network vision plan for the second half of 2012.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-network-visionlte-deployment-running-list/
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If they do manage to get LTE going by next summer I'll for sure stick around. Prolly with the 2nd nexus device if possible.
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If they do manage to get LTE going by next summer I'll for sure stick around. Prolly with the 2nd nexus device if possible.
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I practically guarantee they will by then.
Personally I'm more concerned about getting 3g speeds in the 1.5 - 3 mbps range and the improved service that comes with Network Vision.
Really couldn't care less for LTE/Wimax with that. :silly:

Same crappy speed here.

metro Detroit here too, and I haven't noticed any increase. For some reason my phone now roams constantly. Hopefully not so much that they terminate my contract and force me to jump on T-Mobiles new deal.

3G still sucks here ...
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metro Detroit here too, and I haven't noticed any increase. For some reason my phone now roams constantly. Hopefully not so much that they terminate my contract and force me to jump on T-Mobiles new deal.
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My friends from the bay area (California) started roaming when their towers were being upgraded so it could be a could sign. Here S4GRU website says you guys are should be upgraded soon:
S4GRU Detriot

I'm only with them for the price an unlimited...
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I'm only with them for the price an unlimited...
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That's what I'm saying. I'll stick it out for the prospect of unlimited 4g...
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Metro Detroit here as well... Get the FH13 modem, you won't be disappointed
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Torn. Keep E4GT or get GN2?

I've been due for an upgrade for a few months now, was waiting on the GS3 then heard about the Note 2. I know the Note 2 will be my next phone. The only thing stopping me is lack of LTE coverage in my area.
Major reason for staying with my E4GT is Wimax. I use it to tether at home. Leaving Wimax for 3G on the Note 2 would be a noticeable difference.
Thoughts?

Went from et4g to s3 to note 2 and haven't looked back. The 3g in St Louis is awful but I couldn't pass up the hardware of the other 2 phones. I can use wifi at home and get by with 3g for the time being. My wife's s2 feels like a toy after the other two I have used now.
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And this alone makes up for it...
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Check S4gru.com to see when Sprint LTE will be available in your area
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I changed on release day. It's so awesome that I can't even describe how much better the phone is.
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Haha,
You guys are awesome and I see all of your points. I wonder if I post in the E4GT forum if I'd get different responses.
If I had wifi at my house I would've gone with the GN2 at launch.
I've checked S4gru and apparently Orange County isn't getting LTE until the middle of 2013. That's a long time to wait for someone who runs their internet via tether. I called Sprint a few times and they couldn't give me an answer one way or another when LTE would be lit in my area.

I was in the EXACT same dilemma as you (OP), I was on my old Evo4G and had great Wimax connection and speeds. But after watching all of the videos for the options(software) and hardware I couldn't pass it up. But then again I know that LTE is coming to my area within a month and a half. But regardless after picking up this device I am sooo happy I did, even with 3g which internet surfing is fine on really I just use the multiple page loader in the browser(tabs basically) and i have a few pages open and switch between them while surfing. Ex) open two on XDA then maybe one on PA another on AA and maybe another on TB (phonearena, technoBuffalo,AndroidAuthority) along with other sites after changing. Then just click a link on one after reading an article or thread then flip to the next which has the page loaded already(which loaded while I was reading my previous thread or article). And you don't even notice the difference with that method. Not to mention the 3g isn't all that bad anyways nowadays. Yes compared to 4g it is horrible but hey.
In short YES upgrade. if you dont want to take a good hour to 2 to get it setup at home with 3g which I did and it wasn't bad at all. I am speaking of using the Play market and downloading all the apps you want, then maybe stop at a Wi-fi hotspot and piggyback. hit a Mcdonald's or Starbucks.
I sure hope when the LTE hits here in my area it is comparable to AT&T the speeds on the tablet in my household connected to that is crazy fast. 42mb/s - 48mb/s

Orange County CA? LTE is due in Riverside in April....and i know the OC started before Riverside.
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Orange County CA? LTE is due in Riverside in April....and i know the OC started before Riverside.
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How do you know this?
Yup. OC, CA. April is 6 months away.
And let me play devils advocate for a sec: What good is this phone if Internet is so slow it's almost unusable (at times).

To the OP simply_Dave and the poster above me, you guys know you are looking at the "Launch date" for Orange County which is April. The launch date is when it is roughly 45-50% completed, chances are if you live in a populated area of OC you could be using the LTE market much before. Basically how is works is you can pick up signal much before the date but if you are having spotty coverage or issues dont complain cause they haven't "launched" it yet. But you know your city, Like for instance in mine on a map our City covers roughly a 25mile diameter each way from downtown, but my actual address and location is literally within the actual city. So when they start work in my City in December I will theoretically have 4gLTE fairly quickly(which has also been verified by acquaintances at Sprint). Although my city doesn't Officially "Launch" until June 2013.
I'm stoked though cause I have a Sprint tower that is scheduled for an LTE upgrade within a 1/4mile of my house!!

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How do you know this?
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S4Gru.com
People have already seen many crews beggining work all around us. A few weeks ago my service was horrible, and a tower was down (my guess is due to matinence). But like I said, I am pretty sure OC is due to release prior to us in Riverside, but check that site for when it is expected to drop...I will see if I can find the link to the specific completion rate for you and post it here when I find it.

The Administrator on S4Gru.com seems to believe LTE will launch in the OC in Q1 of 2013....that is if you do not live in Brea, Yorba Linda, or Placentia.

That's great news! Thanks for the look up. Maybe I should make the jump. I just ordered a bunch of new cases for my E4GT too. Haha.

I'm in the same position. I use 4G tether on my E4GT *all the time*. Wimax speeds for me are 6-8Mb during the day, 8-10Mb during the night. I just bought a new Anker battery for the E4GT and i love the screen brightness, etc., but especially the speeds with my tablet. What makes it worse is that i have the Note 10.1 with quad core 1.4 with 2GB and i know how good this tablet is, i only expect wonderous things from the Note 2 consdering it's a higher spec'd processor with near same specs.
At this point, i think it's safe to assume not to go with GS3 - even with the Best buy deals coming up. I *would* suggest waiting 2-3 weeks though....if you are thinking of upgrading. It looks to be a great phone with great battery and great screen and great camera. I'm not sure there isn't something great about this phone, honestly, but that's still to be said about radio reception because i had to recently get rid of my GS3 because it was a worse radio than my E4GT - off topic, i know, so back on topic - wait 2-3 weeks if you must get this (and if you love samsung, you MUSTget this) i would keep the E4GT around though - for those times you want to SWAP back to use your tether through sprint.com/activate website. Enjoy...

I moved from the E4GT to the GN2 and I live in an area that has wimax and lte
The sprint LTE speeds for me are:
About the same download as WIMAX for me 6-10 mb/s
faster upload speeds, Wimax is capped at around 1 mb/s my LTE has gotten anywhere from 2-4 mb/s
(No these are not anywhere near the crazy att and verizon lte speeds but still very usable)
Ping times are faster for me on LTE than they were on wimax
ability to hold the connection seems better for me on lte. It used to drop for me with wimax causing downloads to error, streaming music to stop etc.
As long as i stay in coverage area my connection seems pretty stable on lte.
As far as everything else there is pretty much nothing not to love. I look around my apartment and wonder why I have so many charging cables laying around now since now i just plug it in every day or two or three.

Phone wise, I also made the switch from the ET4G and its like night and day. Longer battery and better all around phone (I also have a Note tablet...)
Since your using it as your internet makes it a tougher decision.
I gave up having Wimax in the hope to have LTE in the near future.
For now I use my 40mbs WiFi and I have about 1.75mbs 3G at my home address.

Meh, think I'm going to keep my phone with wimax. I tried living with internet at 3G and just couldn't do it. I didn't go for more then 10 mins before getting frustrated and turning on Wimax. :/

One reason to get the note
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I'm sure you know that tethering is not yet working on GN2. I have seen one report of bluetooth based tethering working but a no go for me. If your area isn't getting lte for while there's no upside to the GN2. It's a great phone mind you but no tethering for the time being.

[Q] Attn: NYC Users

Hows your LTE? I have yet to get a signal. I live in Astoria and my EVO3D always got 2-3 bars of 4G.. I travel to Clinton Hill for work and still get nothing

I never get any 4G anywhere in NYC, whether it be Astoria or Midtown. The only time I've ever gotten 4G service from sprint was when I was visiting someone in New Hampshire. It surprised the hell out of me, but it didn't even last long anyway. Sprint's 4G sucks.

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Hows your LTE? I have yet to get a signal. I live in Astoria and my EVO3D always got 2-3 bars of 4G.. I travel to Clinton Hill for work and still get nothing
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Your EVO 3D is a WiMax phone and the Lg is a LTE phone.
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I never get any 4G anywhere in NYC, whether it be Astoria or Midtown. The only time I've ever gotten 4G service from sprint was when I was visiting someone in New Hampshire. It surprised the hell out of me, but it didn't even last long anyway. Sprint's 4G sucks.
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This whole Thread seems confusing to me.
Sprint doesn't have any 4g LTE anywhere in New Hampshire. Only Wimax in the southern part of the state like Salem or Nashua. Trust me I know I live in New Hampshire. And why would you say Sprint's 4G sucks if you never had it?

Sprint 4g is awesome I've seen people people get almost 25mbps, you can say the coverage sucks because its only in a few cities but the speed is great.
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There's no LTE in NYC. I heard some people get some LTE but that is mostly just sprint testing their network.
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There is no 4G LTE in NYC, except in the Bronx.
However, when I am visiting my parents in the bronx, it's amazing and usually get at least 26mbps

Hi. There is LTE in NYC. But it is very spotty. There us a very small area in Manhattan midtown around 5th ave and 45th. Then along yh henry Hudson parkway from 86 to 120.
The Bronx is part of NYC as NYC has 5 boroughs and must of the LTE coverage can be found there. I would say 60% of the Bronx has it.
Brooklyn and queens a little in the crown heights and Jamaica sections
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Right. so stuck with 3G for the foreseeable future

NO 4g Yet in NYC and im here daily

Just left NYC... 0 LTE. Im in a suburb of Atlanta and have excellent LTE. Go figure.
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shook187 said:
This whole Thread seems confusing to me.
Sprint doesn't have any 4g LTE anywhere in New Hampshire. Only Wimax in the southern part of the state like Salem or Nashua. Trust me I know I live in New Hampshire. And why would you say Sprint's 4G sucks if you never had it?
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It was confusing to me too, that's why I was surprised. Pinched myself to make sure I wasn't dreaming, checked my download speed and it was indeed 4G. It was in Southern NH by the way, right near Nashua. Not that it makes any sense either way.

In the bronx I'm seeing between 3 and 12mbps....better reception near Morris park ave
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I visit Bronx NY (Burke Ave) every other week and I've been getting a 4G lte connection for about two months now out there. There's definitely 4G in parts of NYC.
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Just got signal in Park Slope today! 1st time I've seen my phone lit up with 4G - but it was "only" 6.4m/1m

LTE is definitely in brooklyn as well, unless theyve been "testing their network" for a month. I know that I always get at least 25mbps and the 4g icon is always lit up in bed stuy all the way to williamsburg, once i get into manhattan POOF its gone.